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(io9)   AMC will re-air seasons 1 & 2 of The Walking Dead episodes in black and white as a nod to the original comic book   (io9.com ) divider line
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2012-12-14 04:06:06 PM  

oldfarthenry: Meh - never did see it in fancy-shmancy "colour" to begin with.



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2012-12-14 04:17:06 PM  
The less they do to connect this to the comic the better. They have totally taken many characters off the rails of their originals for some reason. Which is what I hate in adaptations. I don't care if you change things to make it work for another mediums audience, but when you alter the core of what the character was that irks me off. They have totally changed Andrea's character from a strong willed character into a weak willed nothing.
 
2012-12-14 04:18:50 PM  
Walking Dead? They should have called the show Worlds dumbest farking rednecks and Carl.
 
xcv
2012-12-14 04:25:09 PM  

braedan: Season 2 is terrible because "teh suits" didn't want to pony up the cash that their wildly popular show required.


Did T-Dawg get paid by the word? Stop making excuses about the budget. I've seen youtube comments with better writing.
 
2012-12-14 04:27:14 PM  

brigid_fitch: Fans of the show know why it sucked--that AMC took a bunch of Walking Dead money ($650K/episode) and threw it at Mad Men.


Do you have a citation for that? I hear this thrown around all the time, but AMC's president said this last year:

"If you look at pilot budgets vs. pattern budgets usually the pilot budget is much higher than what ends up being the pattern budget. With The Walking Dead, instead of doing a pilot, we went straight to 6 episodes because we believed in the team and the talent in front and behind the camera. Then we came back with a 13-episode second season, and amortization over 13 episodes is very different than over 6. But we settled into one of the highest pattern budgets for a basic cable series."

and this year, Glen Mazarra said this:

"Every show has a budget and this show's budget is comparable to every other budget I've worked with. This is a healthy budget. I have not suffered any budget cuts and I have never asked for something and have been told we can't afford it. I'm very fortunate. I've been on shows where I've been nickeled and dimed by the studios. AMC has stepped up and realizes this is lighting in a bottle and they want the show to succeed. I don't have any budgetary restraints on the show."
 
2012-12-14 04:33:19 PM  

moothemagiccow: The Singing Bush: The Governor in the show is far better than in the comic, mainly because he's actually charismatic enough that you believe people would keep following him.

The Governor is a bizarre character in both versions. On the show, I don't understand his motivation for almost anything. How does he decide who to trust? The scientist guy is useful, but Merle is too dumb, confident and impulsive to effectively command. Why tie up and torture Glenn but not Andrea? I can understand killing the marines if they were a threat to his authority, but they were skilled warriors whose allegiance might bend to the right authority. What makes his goons better than them?

Michonne's aversion to Woodbury to the point of violence is also strange.


His motivation regarding Glenn and Maggie was to find out where the prison was. It isn't entirely clear why he would care, but it seems to be he just does not trust living in a world with survivors outside Woodbury. Andrea didn't know where any outside survivors were, and he doesn't seem to generally dislike people joining Woodbury (except for the soldiers, more on that...). People joining Woodbury, where he is in charge, further cements his power.

The soldiers far more skilled than his warriors, but his warriors don't need to be that skilled. Zombies are not exactly the most skilled enemy, he really only needs earnest idiots (ie - Merle) who will kill with pleasure at his command. Sure, they aren't going to be a well oiled machine, but they'll get the job done and probably not question his authority. And if they do, none of them are elite fighters that can't be handled (ie - Merle again).

It's not entirely clear if his overall motivation is legitimately the protection of Woodbury or simply his own power, although I'd say he views those two things to be inextricably linked. If he brings in the soldiers and they don't submit (which they very well might not do, since they have their own internal command structure and allegiance to the old order), Woodbury might crumble from within. If he allows outside groups to set up camp anywhere nearby, especially in the "red zone", that would call into question the necessity of his way of doing things and would similarly weaken his power and the town.

I think he's an interesting character mostly because I don't see his actions as evil, simply as a different flavor of the same type of practicality that leads Rick's group to try and lock new people in different wings of the prison. Rick's group has less built up to protect, so maybe they can afford to keep outsiders separate without entirely forgetting their basic humanity.
 
2012-12-14 04:45:28 PM  

tarnok: My friends and I had a small argument about killing the national guard guys


REMEMBER KENT STATE!
 
2012-12-14 04:48:56 PM  
will still suck.
 
2012-12-14 04:59:04 PM  
Just to pipe in...the story of the video game from Telltale Games is much better than the comic and the show.
 
2012-12-14 05:37:55 PM  

dyertek: Just to pipe in...the story of the video game from Telltale Games is much better than the comic and the show.


Crawford > Woodbury
 
2012-12-14 06:00:43 PM  
Wow, you hicks really watch television? I haven't even owned a television in five years. Notice I don't call it TV.
 
2012-12-14 06:02:12 PM  
Black and white can add a lot to movies and TV shows IF the show is shot well enough to pull it off.

I watched Terminator in black and white and was far better than Terminator in color, just for the cold, harsh visuals. Good contrast is essential.

I don't think The Walking Dead has enough contrast between characters and background to make things stand out. It'd all feel washed out in grey methinks.
 
2012-12-14 06:07:35 PM  

dyertek: Just to pipe in...the story of the video game from Telltale Games is much better than the comic and the show.


This.

AMC ought to just broadcast someone playing the game instead of rehashing the TV show.
 
2012-12-14 06:30:11 PM  
The black & white version of The Mist is pretty cool. The lack of color makes it moodier and darker, and it also makes the CGI look less obvious. Darabont wanted to do a theatrical release in B&W, but the suits said no.
 
2012-12-14 06:31:14 PM  

DuudeStanky: Black and white can add a lot to movies and TV shows IF the show is shot well enough to pull it off.

I watched Terminator in black and white and was far better than Terminator in color, just for the cold, harsh visuals. Good contrast is essential.

I don't think The Walking Dead has enough contrast between characters and background to make things stand out. It'd all feel washed out in grey methinks.


The best example of this is The Mist. The special edition of the DVD release featured a copy of the movie in black and white. It went from feeling like a well acted Syfy original to an awesome episode of The Outer Limits.
 
2012-12-14 06:32:26 PM  

burndtdan: I think he's an interesting character mostly because I don't see his actions as evil, simply as a different flavor of the same type of practicality that leads Rick's group to try and lock new people in different wings of the prison. Rick's group has less built up to protect, so maybe they can afford to keep outsiders separate without entirely forgetting their basic humanity.


Yeah, I think one of the things they're trying to do this season is show a parallel between the Governor and Rick. Rick's just as suspicious of strangers, but won't take them out until they actually show they're a threat (at least so far; that may change with him starting to go nuts).
 
2012-12-14 07:15:38 PM  
Season two of The Walking Dead is going to wind up like season two of The Wire: everyone is going to deride it, and then once the series wraps, they're going to look back and say, "Dammit. That was a genius season."

Or not. I personally thought, dull as it was on the farm, it set up some interesting conflicts.
 
2012-12-14 07:19:58 PM  

The English Major: Season two of The Walking Dead is going to wind up like season two of The Wire: everyone is going to deride it, and then once the series wraps, they're going to look back and say, "Dammit. That was a genius season."

Or not. I personally thought, dull as it was on the farm, it set up some interesting conflicts.


I'm thinking it will be like season 3 of Lost. It was frustrating as hell when it was airing once a week, but when viewed it quick succession during a rewatch it was much more tolerable.
 
2012-12-14 07:26:07 PM  

moothemagiccow: 2BuckChuck: I read the first compendium of the comic before watching the show - I like the show better. The comic starts out as a interesting drama of people dealing with the end of the world, but by the end at Woodbury/Prison story it got so dark and torture-porn nasty that I didn't want to read part 2. That level of nihilism and depravity is depressing, not entertaining.

/When you stare into the abyss ...

The depravity is more realistic. The show is a sanitized zombie apocalypse. It's enough to ask that people suspend disbelief to think that the dead can return to life - it's a little much to believe that no one's going to get raped, maimed or mutilated.


I agree completely: the show is a sanitized apocalypse (good band name), and I'm OK with that. My point is if I want to drink in how meaningless, brutal, and horrific life can be I'll read some true accounts from central Africa. I like my entertainment to be entertaining, and I don't find graphic depictions of rape and mutilation entertaining. Exploding zombie heads however ... (Hypocritical? Probably)
 
2012-12-14 08:44:27 PM  

Pawn takes the King: RTOGUY: Maybe they can edit in some action and story progress just like in the comic books too.

I'll agree season 2 had some dull episodes, but I think they've recovered pretty well this season.


Season 2 is actually what turned me off of the show for a looooong time. I had heard everyone raving about the series and I picked it up in the middle of season 2 when they were at the farm house and HOLY CRAP was it boring. It moved sooooo slow and there were no zombies at all. It took me almost 7 months to give the show another shot (from the beginning) and now I'm hooked.
 
2012-12-14 09:00:48 PM  
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2012-12-14 09:27:20 PM  

MugzyBrown: I bought a 50" 1080p whatever majiggy LED tv so I can watch TV shows shot for color be reduced to black and white.


I know, right? I hate when I am forced to watch something.

Thanks Obama.
 
2012-12-14 09:43:46 PM  
Know what else I think is better than the tv show?

www.structuregaming.com 

Still watching it though.
 
2012-12-14 10:03:04 PM  

Guns n' Farkin Roses: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Well then for the full effect I am only going to watch it when sitting on the can....


Is that really rainsWilson? Can someone please explain this pic to me
 
2012-12-14 10:36:39 PM  
If I wanted to watch tv in the 50s, I would use my time machine to go back and do so.
 
2012-12-14 11:13:26 PM  
Just read the second compendium this week. I've really enjoyed both forms of the series...though I've only seen the first two seasons since I don't have cable. I didn't really get the hate for the second season. Based on what I'd read here, I expected it to blow chunks. It was just a little slow, but I liked the characterization they did instead of just hunting zombies all the time.
 
2012-12-15 12:05:23 AM  

Old enough to know better: Know what else I think is better than the tv show?

[www.structuregaming.com image 600x300] 

Still watching it though.


Why?
 
2012-12-15 12:07:05 AM  
The walking dud.
 
2012-12-15 12:36:54 AM  

RDixon: The walking dud.


Too bad it's not Buffy the Vapire Slayer. Amirite?
 
2012-12-15 01:33:08 AM  
They've already done it with the premiere episode.

The show is slow as hell without the the spatter and gore full color adds.
 
2012-12-15 02:18:56 AM  

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: Is this the new thread to complain about season 2/Carl/Andrea/black cast members being killed off/tv series vs. the comics/Peter Petrelli leaving Caitlin in the future/the flash sideways?

/What was the Hurley Bird?


that's still one of the most horrific plotlines I've seen on television. horrific as in 'damn, that's true horror', not horrific as in 'damn, that sucked'. Well, it sucked for her, but... that as some Twilight Zone/Outer Limits/Night Gallery/Tales From The Darkside worthy shiat.

So how did the timeline balance itself out? or does he never actually time travel, he just pulls a Slider and moves to a different alternative reality each time?
 
2012-12-15 02:20:22 AM  

braedan: moothemagiccow: This is not like having a bad harvest. God did not cut the budget. AMC made a terrible decision.

I do blame AMC for their decision. I do NOT blame the writers, producers and/or show runners of The Walking Dead. That's the differentiation that I don't think is clear to many fans. Season 2 is not terrible because "The Creatives are teh suck", Season 2 is terrible because "teh suits" didn't want to pony up the cash that their wildly popular show required.

I applaud the writers, actors and crew of The Walking Dead for giving us the memorable material from Season 2 that we did get (the well zombie, the zombie stampede where Rick was lying under 3 zombies, the season 2 finale come to mind) and I appreciate that they decided to show less zombies rather than skimp on the make up.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
all of this, and more


/believes Season 2 is better than Season 3 so far
 
2012-12-15 02:22:55 AM  

Old enough to know better: Know what else I think is better than the tv show?

[www.structuregaming.com image 600x300] 

Still watching it though.


Black main character. Would sell in England. America.. needs work.
 
2012-12-15 08:32:14 AM  
FARK THAT!
When in God's name will season 2 of Downton Abbey be on Netflix?
And when the hell am i going to get to see Black Swan. It's been out for like 3 farking years!!!!!!
 
2012-12-15 11:07:39 AM  

RatMaster999: Just read the second compendium this week. I've really enjoyed both forms of the series...though I've only seen the first two seasons since I don't have cable. I didn't really get the hate for the second season. Based on what I'd read here, I expected it to blow chunks. It was just a little slow, but I liked the characterization they did instead of just hunting zombies all the time.


It's not hate, it's ADD. Some people need constant shooting and splosions n stuff, otherwise, their minds start to drift.
 
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