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2012-12-14 11:14:42 AM  
"Let me be clear, my goal - and the goal of many of those joining me here today - is to make abortion at any stage a thing of the past," Perry said.

Let me be clear, my opinion - and the opinion of more than fifty million people who did not vote for the GOP - is that doubling down on the derp needs to be a thing of the past.
 
2012-12-14 11:20:52 AM  
"Over the last decade, Texas has taken extraordinary steps to protect the lives of the unborn, but when 80,000 lives are lost to abortion each year in our state, we know our work is far from over,"

And yet you're fine with all the additional unwanted babies your policies yield. And you'll rail against any government assistance those children will need, as well as the mother who will likely drop out of school and life to raise it.

You probably don't even care about abortion, personally. You're a pandering twat who knows which side his bread is buttered.
 
2012-12-14 11:22:06 AM  
I'm curious -- with all the successful legislative measures at the state level to limit access to abortions that the right wing's given us in the last couple years, one would expect to see an increase in deaths from complications from illegal unhygienic back-alley abortions. Have we started seeing this, yet?
 
2012-12-14 11:22:36 AM  
yeah, let's keep abortion as an issue in the Presidential race. guess they don't want to win in 2016.
 
2012-12-14 11:25:00 AM  
I guess he didn't see this story from a few days ago. Fiscal conservative, he is not, apparently.
 
2012-12-14 11:25:01 AM  
And in 20 odd years when the crime rates rise in correlation with the unwanted pregnancy rate, he'll be rewarded again with donations from for-profit prison corporations. There's a whole cycle of inhumane treatment related to this whole asinine anti-abortion movement, which itself is just a crass attempt to garner votes in the short term.
 
2012-12-14 11:34:28 AM  
Republicans love the Constitution so much that they'll go to any length to pass state laws circumventing it.
 
2012-12-14 11:38:07 AM  

phaseolus: I'm curious -- with all the successful legislative measures at the state level to limit access to abortions that the right wing's given us in the last couple years, one would expect to see an increase in deaths from complications from illegal unhygienic back-alley abortions. Have we started seeing this, yet?


You'd have to first identify an actual sucessful legislative measure that hasn't been tossed by a federal court.

And to that point I will continue to ask this in ever abortion thread until one "pro-life" person at least attempts an honest answer: From 2004-2006 The GOP controlled both the House and Senate, The White House, and had a newly minted majority on the Us Supreme Court. Despite the GOP's contant claims to be the pro-life party and their repeatedly claims that this was the most important item on thier party's agenda, why were exactly zero bills passed, or even proposed that outlawed abortion on a national level and directly challenged Roe v. Wade ?
What was stopping the GOP, when it was in complete controll of all three branches of the federal government from at least attempting to enact what they claim is such a high priority to them?

Could it be that the Pro-life movement is being playd for suckers by the GOP who knows that so long as legal you are a nearly guaranteed vote for them, but the moment they accomplish your agenda, you may move on and vote based on other issues?
 
2012-12-14 11:45:55 AM  

Magorn: phaseolus: I'm curious -- with all the successful legislative measures at the state level to limit access to abortions that the right wing's given us in the last couple years, one would expect to see an increase in deaths from complications from illegal unhygienic back-alley abortions. Have we started seeing this, yet?

You'd have to first identify an actual sucessful legislative measure that hasn't been tossed by a federal court.

And to that point I will continue to ask this in ever abortion thread until one "pro-life" person at least attempts an honest answer: From 2004-2006 The GOP controlled both the House and Senate, The White House, and had a newly minted majority on the Us Supreme Court. Despite the GOP's contant claims to be the pro-life party and their repeatedly claims that this was the most important item on thier party's agenda, why were exactly zero bills passed, or even proposed that outlawed abortion on a national level and directly challenged Roe v. Wade ?
What was stopping the GOP, when it was in complete controll of all three branches of the federal government from at least attempting to enact what they claim is such a high priority to them?

Could it be that the Pro-life movement is being playd for suckers by the GOP who knows that so long as legal you are a nearly guaranteed vote for them, but the moment they accomplish your agenda, you may move on and vote based on other issues?


Point of order: the Republicans took full control in 2002, not 2004, though admittedly the Senate was 51-49.
 
2012-12-14 11:45:58 AM  
He's against late-term abortions, partial birth abortions and .... that other one, the third kind... I can't think of it right now...
 
2012-12-14 11:46:31 AM  
Oops...
 
2012-12-14 11:46:50 AM  
"Let me be clear, my goal - and the goal of many of those joining me here today - is to make abortion at any stage a thing of the past," Perry said.

So we can expect a Democratic landslide in 2016 then. Good to know.
 
2012-12-14 11:47:33 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Republicans love the Constitution so much that they'll go to any length to pass state laws circumventing it.


Every time you actually use one of your Constitutional rights, you've used up a little bit of the Constitution. By circumventing the Bill of Rights, the Republicans are protecting it from getting all used up. That's also why they wanted to "export democracy" around the world. Every time Americans use it, there's just that much less of it left, so the GOP imposed the TSA, Homeland Security, the Patriot Act, and all of the other things that will protect our FreedomsTM by preventing us from actually using them. Freedom is a non-renewable resource, there is only so much of it to go around. Unlike oil.
 
2012-12-14 11:47:43 AM  
Call me back when you are as fervent about protecting the lives of the already born.
 
2012-12-14 11:49:33 AM  

dickfreckle: You probably don't even care about abortion, personally. You're a pandering twat who knows which side his bread is buttered.


As a resident of Texas, I can say without hesitation that Rick Perry is in fact a pandering twat. He's also a complete retard and a f*cking asshole.

But hey, he's good at acting like the tough guy "everything's bigger in Texas" douche, so he gets to be governor for as long as he wants.
 
2012-12-14 11:50:05 AM  
He's everything George W. Bush was, but with less mental acuity.

That is possibly the scariest statement I have ever made.
 
2012-12-14 11:50:18 AM  
So 2016 will bring the lulz. Who are we to deny him his right to provide said lulz?

/At least the GOP may serve up one or two actual candidates this time
//Still may not get passed the derp
 
2012-12-14 11:50:52 AM  

tnpir: dickfreckle: You probably don't even care about abortion, personally. You're a pandering twat who knows which side his bread is buttered.

As a resident of Texas, I can say without hesitation that Rick Perry is in fact a pandering twat. He's also a complete retard and a f*cking asshole.

But hey, he's good at acting like the tough guy "everything's bigger in Texas" douche, so he gets to be governor for as long as he wants.


Isn't he term limited?
 
2012-12-14 11:51:00 AM  
The 2016 race for the Republican nomination is really going to come down to Santorum vs. Perry, isn't it?
 
2012-12-14 11:51:14 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: He's everything George W. Bush was, but with less mental acuity.

That is possibly the scariest statement I have ever made.


And more Texan caricature.
 
2012-12-14 11:51:26 AM  
I just want to stand outside his campaign rallies and chant "Ummmm...."
 
2012-12-14 11:51:36 AM  
That guy is 100% unelectable in a national election
 
2012-12-14 11:51:53 AM  
Anyone that doesn't push for thorough sex education and cheap and easy access to various forms of birth control isn't serious about lowering abortion rates.
 
2012-12-14 11:52:39 AM  
As long as he doesn't get stoned before having to recite a list of three things from memory he should be ok.
 
2012-12-14 11:53:33 AM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Call me back when you are as fervent about protecting the lives of the already born.


This is what I don't understand.

I can understand the logic of wanting to protect the life of the unborn child. I get it. However, there should also be some level of empathy for the mother who is carrying that child, as well as the well-being of that child once it's born. Yet most of the people I know who are gung-ho anti-abortion couldn't care less about what happens once that child is born. They're all for cutting medicaid / welfare benefits, which punishes those children they just spent so much time trying to save, as well as cutting funding for birth control / sex education, which causes more pregnancies. Once that kid is born, it's no longer their concern - someone else's problem.

I just don't understand that mentality.
 
2012-12-14 11:54:08 AM  

Loucifer: He's against late-term abortions, partial birth abortions and .... that other one, the third kind... I can't think of it right now...

 

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-14 11:55:11 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: That guy is 100% unelectable in a national election


During the GOP primary, he got less of the popular vote than Huntsman.

He's unelectable anywhere outside of Texas.
 
2012-12-14 11:55:41 AM  
Nominating Romney, a moderate/liberal, didn't work last time, so of course we need to get a real conservative nominated next time!

Perry/Santorum, now there's a ticket. With Santorum on the bottom and a real conservative on the top, there's no way that such a pair could leave a bad taste in your mouth!
 
2012-12-14 11:55:49 AM  
I need to send this man a wire coat hanger.
 
2012-12-14 11:57:38 AM  

EighthDay: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Call me back when you are as fervent about protecting the lives of the already born.

This is what I don't understand.

I can understand the logic of wanting to protect the life of the unborn child. I get it. However, there should also be some level of empathy for the mother who is carrying that child, as well as the well-being of that child once it's born. Yet most of the people I know who are gung-ho anti-abortion couldn't care less aboutū what happens once that child is born. They're all for cutting medicaid / welfare benefits, which punishes those children they just spent so much time trying to save, as well as cutting funding for birth control / sex education, which causes more pregnancies. Once that kid is born, it's no longer their concern - someone else's problem.

I just don't understand that mentality.


It makes sense if you think about how these turds believe the way the world works
To them, what "right" is what "works"
 
2012-12-14 11:57:53 AM  
Stupid libs, why do you always have to make abortion such a big deal? There is no war on abortion.
 
2012-12-14 11:59:42 AM  

EighthDay: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Call me back when you are as fervent about protecting the lives of the already born.

This is what I don't understand.

I can understand the logic of wanting to protect the life of the unborn child. I get it. However, there should also be some level of empathy for the mother who is carrying that child, as well as the well-being of that child once it's born. Yet most of the people I know who are gung-ho anti-abortion couldn't care less about what happens once that child is born. They're all for cutting medicaid / welfare benefits, which punishes those children they just spent so much time trying to save, as well as cutting funding for birth control / sex education, which causes more pregnancies. Once that kid is born, it's no longer their concern - someone else's problem.

I just don't understand that mentality.


Perhaps you don't understand because you are not a self-righteous, judgmental hypocrite.
/Just a guess.
 
2012-12-14 12:01:05 PM  

qorkfiend: tnpir: dickfreckle: You probably don't even care about abortion, personally. You're a pandering twat who knows which side his bread is buttered.

As a resident of Texas, I can say without hesitation that Rick Perry is in fact a pandering twat. He's also a complete retard and a f*cking asshole.

But hey, he's good at acting like the tough guy "everything's bigger in Texas" douche, so he gets to be governor for as long as he wants.

Isn't he term limited?


No. There are no term limits in Texas. That is why Rick Perry is the longest serving governor in the history of this state.
 
2012-12-14 12:01:54 PM  
"Let me be clear, my goal - and the goal of many of those joining me here today - is to make abortion at any stage a thing of the past," Perry said. "But while Roe versus Wade prohibits us from taking that step, it does allow us, the states, to do some things to protect life if they can show there is a compelling state interest.

Couldn't you use this statement to challenge any new law or regulation? Isn't he just admitting that the point of the new laws are just to harass and move towards a ban?
 
2012-12-14 12:02:07 PM  

EighthDay: I just don't understand that mentality.



Apparently, every human being has an uncanny awareness of all possible incentives and disincentives and hyperrationally makes decisions accordingly. Therefore if you mobilize public resources to prevent American children from starving, the poors will think to themselves "Hooray, let's make babies just because we can!".

IANAConservative but it sure seems like many of them actually believe this.
 
2012-12-14 12:02:12 PM  

tnpir: qorkfiend: tnpir: dickfreckle: You probably don't even care about abortion, personally. You're a pandering twat who knows which side his bread is buttered.

As a resident of Texas, I can say without hesitation that Rick Perry is in fact a pandering twat. He's also a complete retard and a f*cking asshole.

But hey, he's good at acting like the tough guy "everything's bigger in Texas" douche, so he gets to be governor for as long as he wants.

Isn't he term limited?

No. There are no term limits in Texas. That is why Rick Perry is the longest serving governor in the history of this state.


Oh. I don't know why I thought he was.
 
2012-12-14 12:03:35 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: It makes sense if you think about how these turds believe the way the world works
To them, what "right" is what "works"


Perhaps a bit more like "This, according to our moral outlook, is the right thing to do. Therefore it should work." Then they supplement it with "And if for whatever reason it doesn't, either we haven't been doing it right or someone's been trying to subvert it."
 
2012-12-14 12:04:58 PM  

Graffito: EighthDay: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Call me back when you are as fervent about protecting the lives of the already born.

This is what I don't understand.

I can understand the logic of wanting to protect the life of the unborn child. I get it. However, there should also be some level of empathy for the mother who is carrying that child, as well as the well-being of that child once it's born. Yet most of the people I know who are gung-ho anti-abortion couldn't care less about what happens once that child is born. They're all for cutting medicaid / welfare benefits, which punishes those children they just spent so much time trying to save, as well as cutting funding for birth control / sex education, which causes more pregnancies. Once that kid is born, it's no longer their concern - someone else's problem.

I just don't understand that mentality.

Perhaps you don't understand because you are not a self-righteous, judgmental hypocrite.
/Just a guess.


Are you stupid?
 
2012-12-14 12:05:18 PM  
The fetus feels pain? It's like they're pulling a piece of paper out of the 'how to stop abortion' suggestion box, or maybe they're spinning a giant wheel. Yeah, let's go with the giant wheel.
 
2012-12-14 12:05:20 PM  
What's funny is that the GOP likes to perseverate on the losers of the previous nomination/primary and continue to re-run them. Their best bet now is Christie or Jon Huntsman
 
2012-12-14 12:06:54 PM  

Crabs_Can_Polevault: Britney Spear's Speculum: It makes sense if you think about how these turds believe the way the world works
To them, what "right" is what "works"

Perhaps a bit more like "This, according to our moral outlook, is the right thing to do. Therefore it should work." Then they supplement it with "And if for whatever reason it doesn't, either we haven't been doing it right or someone's been trying to subvert it."


A little of both
 
2012-12-14 12:08:33 PM  
Here's an advance copy of the 2016 Republican Platform.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-14 12:08:48 PM  
So Republicans learned absolutely nothing after the last election? That's just fine by me.
 
2012-12-14 12:08:57 PM  

tnpir: Graffito: EighthDay: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Call me back when you are as fervent about protecting the lives of the already born.

This is what I don't understand.

I can understand the logic of wanting to protect the life of the unborn child. I get it. However, there should also be some level of empathy for the mother who is carrying that child, as well as the well-being of that child once it's born. Yet most of the people I know who are gung-ho anti-abortion couldn't care less about what happens once that child is born. They're all for cutting medicaid / welfare benefits, which punishes those children they just spent so much time trying to save, as well as cutting funding for birth control / sex education, which causes more pregnancies. Once that kid is born, it's no longer their concern - someone else's problem.

I just don't understand that mentality.

Perhaps you don't understand because you are not a self-righteous, judgmental hypocrite.
/Just a guess.

Are you stupid?


??? What did you read?  I was complimenting EighthDay on not being a self-righteous, judgmental hypocrite.
 
2012-12-14 12:09:06 PM  
Because things in Texas are going just swell?
 
2012-12-14 12:12:50 PM  
The rape thing worked out so well for other GOP shills......I'd make it a focal point of your next election.

/The rest of the country is not as farked up as Texas.
 
2012-12-14 12:13:24 PM  
So, I feel like I have to confess something.

The night of the election, just before midnight there was this feeling that came over me. It had been a long day, work, getting out to vote, watching the polls when I had a free moment, and then finally at 8 PM getting my PJ's on and hauling out the bag of Doritos, a sixer of Boston Lager and the whole bottle of Bushmills with a highball glass.

The room smelled like you might expect it to; boozy, the stench of nachos and some sweat and mixed in there I changed bass strings which always leaves some weird industrial stank.

But I was just overcome with the basic fact that it was over. It had been nearly a year of GOP nominee or candidate opening fire at their own foot. Round after round I watched and read about them pumping nearly a ton of lead right through their shoes and into the ground, and doing so gleefully as if the bigger the blood spatter would only attract more voters.

...and I felt empty inside. It was that feeling when the free three months of HBO and Showtime from changing cable subscribers has run out and you're left with the new normal you were going to have to deal with everyday from now on.

And then suddenly I read this and I remembered one single phrase "All politics are local." And then I realized that when one door closes for Mitt Romney a window opens for every other GOP hopeful out there, and right now they're all strapping on a set of wings and betting that they're the ones that can fly...because, well, Jesus said they could. And maybe Jesus is doing it this time because he KNOWS they'll win and it isn't just another test or anything.

This is the first time I've felt that excitement again, that quickening of the pulse, the smug grin of knowing that the show isn't over...not by a longshot.

So, thanks subby. Its been a long two months!
 
2012-12-14 12:16:00 PM  
s16.postimage.org
 
2012-12-14 12:16:17 PM  

phaseolus: I'm curious -- with all the successful legislative measures at the state level to limit access to abortions that the right wing's given us in the last couple years, one would expect to see an increase in deaths from complications from illegal unhygienic back-alley abortions. Have we started seeing this, yet?


As long as neighboring states still have clinics, it will never be as bad as the 1960's.
 
2012-12-14 12:18:09 PM  

Skarekrough: So, I feel like I have to confess something.

The night of the election, just before midnight there was this feeling that came over me. It had been a long day, work, getting out to vote, watching the polls when I had a free moment, and then finally at 8 PM getting my PJ's on and hauling out the bag of Doritos, a sixer of Boston Lager and the whole bottle of Bushmills with a highball glass.

The room smelled like you might expect it to; boozy, the stench of nachos and some sweat and mixed in there I changed bass strings which always leaves some weird industrial stank.

But I was just overcome with the basic fact that it was over. It had been nearly a year of GOP nominee or candidate opening fire at their own foot. Round after round I watched and read about them pumping nearly a ton of lead right through their shoes and into the ground, and doing so gleefully as if the bigger the blood spatter would only attract more voters.

...and I felt empty inside. It was that feeling when the free three months of HBO and Showtime from changing cable subscribers has run out and you're left with the new normal you were going to have to deal with everyday from now on.

And then suddenly I read this and I remembered one single phrase "All politics are local." And then I realized that when one door closes for Mitt Romney a window opens for every other GOP hopeful out there, and right now they're all strapping on a set of wings and betting that they're the ones that can fly...because, well, Jesus said they could. And maybe Jesus is doing it this time because he KNOWS they'll win and it isn't just another test or anything.

This is the first time I've felt that excitement again, that quickening of the pulse, the smug grin of knowing that the show isn't over...not by a longshot.

So, thanks subby. Its been a long two months!


Stop.
Buying.
Ammo!
 
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