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(CBS News)   Tipping TVs kill record number of US kids. Tipping cattle still leading cause of hilarity   (cbsnews.com) divider line 118
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2012-12-14 09:06:08 AM
How can a TV kill you if they weigh less than 20 pounds now?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-14 09:39:19 AM
How can a TV kill you if they weigh less than 20 pounds now?

TFA says a lot of these kids got hand-me-down massive CRTs as their parents upgraded.
 
2012-12-14 09:40:08 AM
Dude, I liked the other headline better.
 
2012-12-14 09:41:26 AM
Headline just changed. Had a post deleted relating to headline.

/grr
 
2012-12-14 09:42:05 AM
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That's SO sad. I'll have to watch out because my 80 inch, 16:9 Full HD 1080p OLED plasma ultra thin mat screen TV only weighs a mere 3 lbs. You've probably not even heard of it because it was made specifically for me.
upload.wikimedia.org
No injured children here.
 
2012-12-14 09:43:26 AM

ZAZ: How can a TV kill you if they weigh less than 20 pounds now?

TFA says a lot of these kids got hand-me-down massive CRTs as their parents upgraded.


But how does that even work? Shouldn't a roughly cube-shaped CRT be a lot more stable than a rectangular flatscreen? How are they tipping at all?
 
2012-12-14 09:43:32 AM
if you are stupid enough to get squished by a tv, then you have probably done the world a favor. my kids were always taught to NOT TOUCH THE TV. Low and behold, not one of my kids were killed in a tv accident.

don't let your kids play in the house like it is a goddamned jungle gym.
 
2012-12-14 09:43:57 AM
Then people need to stop buying TVs made in Tipping. Duh.
 
2012-12-14 09:44:09 AM
Tipping cows also dangerous. I will never forget the mental image of 3 of my friends as teenagers being chased down the middle of the street by a very annoyed cow at 3 AM. Never anger the moo.
 
2012-12-14 09:45:18 AM
Back in MY day televisions were built like furniture and weighed more than your average mother-in-law!
They had their own space in the living room and commanded respect!
www.digitalworldtokyo.com
AND YOU HAD TO WALK UP TO THE GODDAMN THINGS TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL OR ADJUST THE RABBIT-EARS!!
 
2012-12-14 09:45:33 AM
you would think the kids would be so fat from watching it all the time that it would just roll right off them
 
2012-12-14 09:46:58 AM
These things are obviously the pit bulls of the electronics world. They must be outlawed.
 
2012-12-14 09:47:09 AM

frepnog: if you are stupid enough to get squished by a tv, then you have probably done the world a favor. my kids were always taught to NOT TOUCH THE TV. Low and behold, not one of my kids were killed in a tv accident.

don't let your kids play in the house like it is a goddamned jungle gym.


What kind of 3 year old listens to their parents?
 
2012-12-14 09:47:19 AM

Millennium: ZAZ: How can a TV kill you if they weigh less than 20 pounds now?

TFA says a lot of these kids got hand-me-down massive CRTs as their parents upgraded.

But how does that even work? Shouldn't a roughly cube-shaped CRT be a lot more stable than a rectangular flatscreen? How are they tipping at all?


My 5 year old cube-shaped CRT is extremely front heavy. It would be very easy to tip if I don't have the front of it at the center of a really steady table.
 
2012-12-14 09:48:05 AM

frepnog: if you are stupid enough to get squished by a tv, then you have probably done the world a favor. my kids were always taught to NOT TOUCH THE TV. Low and behold, not one of my kids were killed in a tv accident.

don't let your kids play in the house like it is a goddamned jungle gym.


Newsflash: Sometimes kids do things even though they know they shouldn't.

Crazy, I know.
 
2012-12-14 09:48:13 AM
Well, I can see how RuPaul falling on a kid might hurt...
 
2012-12-14 09:48:41 AM

oldfarthenry: Back in MY day televisions were built like furniture and weighed more than your average mother-in-law!
They had their own space in the living room and commanded respect!
AND YOU HAD TO WALK UP TO THE GODDAMN THINGS TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL OR ADJUST THE RABBIT-EARS!!


Ah, back in the day when TVs to cut-down trees to make them were nearly 1:1.
 
2012-12-14 09:50:33 AM

oldfarthenry: Back in MY day televisions were built like furniture and weighed more than your average mother-in-law!
They had their own space in the living room and commanded respect!
[www.digitalworldtokyo.com image 400x434]
AND YOU HAD TO WALK UP TO THE GODDAMN THINGS TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL OR ADJUST THE RABBIT-EARS!!


I use rabbit ears with all my hdtvs. I refuse to pay for cable, and I find I get a better picture with the ears.
 
2012-12-14 09:51:31 AM
Great, another tipping thread.
 
2012-12-14 09:53:44 AM

oldfarthenry: Back in MY day televisions were built like furniture and weighed more than your average mother-in-law!
They had their own space in the living room and commanded respect!
[www.digitalworldtokyo.com image 400x434]
AND YOU HAD TO WALK UP TO THE GODDAMN THINGS TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL OR ADJUST THE RABBIT-EARS!!


And if the President was on TV, you had two options: Watch the President or turn off the TV.
 
2012-12-14 09:54:07 AM
Holy cripes! That article was just SLINGING semi related or completely unrelated numbers all over the place to twist them into sounding like TVs are killing kids at a Holocaust level. I didn't parse through all the derp to do the math but I'm assuming the numbers add up to a couple moutbreathing snot factories getting squished a year.

I mean I know there is hyperbolic media hyped panic but this one reads like an Onion article.
 
TWX
2012-12-14 09:55:02 AM
It's unlikely that our TVs would fall. One is a projector securely mounted to the ceiling joists, probably securely enough that if a burglar tried to steal it he'd just end up vandalizing it in frustration. The second is a Panasonic 30" widescreen TUBE that we picked up on Craigslist for $40 when the old 4x3 25" TV croaked a year ago. It weighs 126 pounds and is installed in an entertainment center that leaves only one inch clearance on the top and sides. I have a hard time getting behind it to work on it, and that's knowing how all of the cords route and how it has to be slid while being rotated. It does have a provision for securing it to the wall though, if I ever need it.
 
2012-12-14 09:56:06 AM
Third most deadly: tipping canoes.

/and Tyler, too
 
2012-12-14 09:56:10 AM
v022o.popscreen.com
 
2012-12-14 09:57:00 AM

here to help: Holy cripes! That article was just SLINGING semi related or completely unrelated numbers all over the place to twist them into sounding like TVs are killing kids at a Holocaust level. I didn't parse through all the derp to do the math but I'm assuming the numbers add up to a couple moutbreathing snot factories getting squished a year.

I mean I know there is hyperbolic media hyped panic but this one reads like an Onion article.


"The report also showed that 349 people were killed between 2000 and 2011 by a falling television, appliance or piece of furniture -- 84 percent of them were kids younger than 9 years old. Falling televisions were more deadly, accounting for 62 percent of these fatalities. Last year alone, a record 41 tip-over related fatalities occurred."

41? That's only one every 8.9 days. How many kids were killed by abusive parents last year?
 
2012-12-14 09:59:06 AM

robohobo: oldfarthenry: Back in MY day televisions were built like furniture and weighed more than your average mother-in-law!
They had their own space in the living room and commanded respect!
[www.digitalworldtokyo.com image 400x434]
AND YOU HAD TO WALK UP TO THE GODDAMN THINGS TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL OR ADJUST THE RABBIT-EARS!!

I use rabbit ears with all my hdtvs. I refuse to pay for cable, and I find I get a better picture with the ears.


I have a buddy that has an HD antenna for his TV for sports and streams everything else. I was really surprised by the quality of the picture he got off the antenna.
 
2012-12-14 10:00:47 AM
TIPPING THREAD
 
2012-12-14 10:01:10 AM

frepnog: if you are stupid enough to get squished by a tv, then you have probably done the world a favor. my kids were always taught to NOT TOUCH THE TV. Low and behold, not one of my kids were killed in a tv accident.

don't let your kids play in the house like it is a goddamned jungle gym.


wait...
 
2012-12-14 10:01:17 AM

mytdawg: These things are obviously the pit bulls of the electronics world. They must be outlawed.


I'd say they're more like the AK-47s of the electronics world, but I agree they must be outlawed.
 
2012-12-14 10:01:18 AM

Carn: 41? That's only one every 8.9 days. How many kids were killed by abusive parents last year?


And you'll notice they didn't say TV tip overs. That number is likely all furniture and other household crap. The headline SCREAMS that TVs are killing kids then immediately goes on to talk about injuries instead. They are trying confuse people into thinking the big mean numbers are all describing TV related tipping deaths which they are not.

Horrible horrible journalism.
 
GBB
2012-12-14 10:01:33 AM

robohobo: I use rabbit ears with all my hdtvs. I refuse to pay for cable, and I find I get a better picture with the ears.


Is it a Monster branded HDTV antenna??
 
2012-12-14 10:02:11 AM
I'm just glad this hasn't deteriorated into another 'tipping' flamewar
 
2012-12-14 10:02:41 AM

Trivia Jockey: TIPPING THREAD


12%/10.0 at the absolute most
 
2012-12-14 10:02:43 AM

Millennium: ZAZ: How can a TV kill you if they weigh less than 20 pounds now?

TFA says a lot of these kids got hand-me-down massive CRTs as their parents upgraded.

But how does that even work? Shouldn't a roughly cube-shaped CRT be a lot more stable than a rectangular flatscreen? How are they tipping at all?


Not at all. CRTs don't have a centered mass center. They're very top heavy on the screen side. With a smaller unit the difference between gravity and mass center is low, so almost no risk. The larger the TV, the larger the difference and the propensity for it to fall forward.
 
2012-12-14 10:03:07 AM

oldfarthenry: Back in MY day televisions were built like furniture and weighed more than your average mother-in-law!
They had their own space in the living room and commanded respect!
[www.digitalworldtokyo.com image 400x434]
AND YOU HAD TO WALK UP TO THE GODDAMN THINGS TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL OR ADJUST THE RABBIT-EARS!!


my grandmother had one of the first TVs with a remote - a real clicker... as in... it clicked literally (the remote, not the tv)
 
2012-12-14 10:03:49 AM
tippnews.com
 
2012-12-14 10:04:15 AM
Probably something like this:

vacationrentalpros.com
 
2012-12-14 10:05:45 AM
There's just no polite way to put this:

Kids get killed by falling TV's because people are stupid.

There's nothing wrong with the design of the televisions or TV stands, for the most part. There's everything wrong with parents not using common sense and child proofing. If you can child-lock your kitchen cabinets and put bumpers on the sharp edges of your coffee table, if you can keep choking hazards off the floor - you can frickin' check if your TV or A/V furniture is a little tipsy, and if so, correct it. If you can't figure out how to correct it, you're a moron. It doesn't take money. It takes brains.

I don't want my own furniture dumbed down by some law because parents are morons. I already have a collection of un-used wall anchors for every new piece of furniture I bought.
 
GBB
2012-12-14 10:05:49 AM

Millennium: ZAZ: How can a TV kill you if they weigh less than 20 pounds now?

TFA says a lot of these kids got hand-me-down massive CRTs as their parents upgraded.

But how does that even work? Shouldn't a roughly cube-shaped CRT be a lot more stable than a rectangular flatscreen? How are they tipping at all?


Because most of the weight is in the leaded glass screen. The lead shields viewer from some of the radiation of the electron gun that is firing directly at them. Hence, "don't sit so close to the TV".
 
2012-12-14 10:06:52 AM

A Shambling Mound: frepnog: if you are stupid enough to get squished by a tv, then you have probably done the world a favor. my kids were always taught to NOT TOUCH THE TV. Low and behold, not one of my kids were killed in a tv accident.

don't let your kids play in the house like it is a goddamned jungle gym.

Newsflash: Sometimes kids do things even though they know they shouldn't.

Crazy, I know.


newsflash - a kid will generally only touch a hot stove ONCE. Every kid I had got either their hand smacked or their butt smacked when they messed around the tv. It usually only took once. All that "stay away from the tv, dear" doesn't work. Smack that little hand however and they will learn VERY quickly that "touch tv = pain". Notice I did not say "hit your child so hard that you break his little bones". I said "smack that hand or butt". it does not REALLY hurt, it stings enough to get their attention.

parenting: how does it work? by knowing that reason doesn't really work on a 3 year old. a little pain however works wonders.
 
2012-12-14 10:06:55 AM
You can't actually tip cows subby.
 
2012-12-14 10:07:21 AM

here to help: Horrible horrible journalism.


Yes. The 41 number also conflates children and adults. Based on the other stats, it's around 24 kids killed by a tv per year. Not good, but this is a nation of over 300 million people. Given the 30,000 traffic deaths per year this is no cause for PANIC.
 
TWX
2012-12-14 10:07:25 AM

blatz514: [v022o.popscreen.com image 666x360]


I didn't know that Rob Lowe and Chris Farley were in Heathers!
 
2012-12-14 10:07:52 AM
a dead child is tragic

but a dead child AND a broken TV? I don't think there is even a word for that.
 
2012-12-14 10:08:36 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: oldfarthenry: Back in MY day televisions were built like furniture and weighed more than your average mother-in-law!
They had their own space in the living room and commanded respect!
[www.digitalworldtokyo.com image 400x434]
AND YOU HAD TO WALK UP TO THE GODDAMN THINGS TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL OR ADJUST THE RABBIT-EARS!!

my grandmother had one of the first TVs with a remote - a real clicker... as in... it clicked literally (the remote, not the tv)


We had one of those... IIRC, 3 buttons on the clicker - one for channel up, one for channel down, and one to cycle between 2 or 3 different volume levels and power. My sister and I learned that if we clinked our silverware together (we ate in the living room alot) it would change the channel. Good times.
 
2012-12-14 10:08:41 AM
They should just watch Reservoir Dogs, Mr. Pink won't tip.
 
2012-12-14 10:09:58 AM
I'd never tip a tv more than 15%.
 
2012-12-14 10:11:47 AM

titwrench: robohobo: oldfarthenry: Back in MY day televisions were built like furniture and weighed more than your average mother-in-law!
They had their own space in the living room and commanded respect!
[www.digitalworldtokyo.com image 400x434]
AND YOU HAD TO WALK UP TO THE GODDAMN THINGS TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL OR ADJUST THE RABBIT-EARS!!

I use rabbit ears with all my hdtvs. I refuse to pay for cable, and I find I get a better picture with the ears.

I have a buddy that has an HD antenna for his TV for sports and streams everything else. I was really surprised by the quality of the picture he got off the antenna.


Yeah, antennas are extremely effective. More than adequate for tv on the fly. I stream what I can, torrent the rest..
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-14 10:13:48 AM
medius: but a dead child AND a broken TV? I don't think there is even a word for that.

Don't worry, the kid broke the TV's fall. Reconnect the antenna wire and it will be fine.
 
2012-12-14 10:14:09 AM

Holocaust Agnostic: You can't actually tip cows subby.


And yet if you pose the question a significant percentage of people will claim to have done it even though they never have.
 
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