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(Talking Points Memo)   Senator Leahy (D-VT) wants to know when the White House is gonna toke up with him   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 119
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2012-12-14 12:18:23 PM

Shaggy_C: Dr Dreidel: So, you're making an argument in favor of Congress amending the CSA, or something equivalent that removes the supremacy argument? Why all the negative talk about recreational pot smokers, then?

I think drug addicts are pathetic human beings, about on par with the way I look at homeless people or alcoholics. Doesn't mean I disagree with their right to possess a plant.


So, which family member of yours was a substance abuser? Mom or dad? Both? They really did love the drugs more than you, because you're an asshole.
 
2012-12-14 12:19:10 PM
If you people think that getting everybody to smoke dope is going to help this country at all I have news for all of you. It is not going to help at all it is going to hurt us and I hope the Federal Government does not let this slide and I hope they lock up everybody who voted for these laws which put our kids on dope.
 
2012-12-14 12:21:30 PM

Shaggy_C: I bet you felt the same way when all of the red states rejected Obamacare and refused to implement its required state-run exchanges, eh? They're just trying get the feds to 'take a hint'?


It's a dick move on the part of the states towards their own residents (in my opinion, anyway), but essentially, yes. They challenged and the end result is that they don't have to set up an exchange, the feds will do it for them. And that's even further from being a civil rights issue than recreational drug use.
 
2012-12-14 12:23:21 PM

Brian Ryanberger: If you people think that getting everybody to smoke dope is going to help this country at all I have news for all of you. It is not going to help at all it is going to hurt us and I hope the Federal Government does not let this slide and I hope they lock up everybody who voted for these laws which put our kids on dope.


2/10. Hardly trolltastic.

You only got the 2 for the use of the word "dope".
 
2012-12-14 12:23:53 PM

Shaggy_C: I think there should be a certain taboo and shame that comes with drug usage even if it is legalized.


I don't know that we should shame women on birth control.
 
2012-12-14 12:24:48 PM

Brian Ryanberger: If you people think that getting everybody to smoke dope is going to help this country at all I have news for all of you. It is not going to help at all it is going to hurt us and I hope the Federal Government does not let this slide and I hope they lock up everybody who voted for these laws which put our kids on dope.


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2012-12-13 13:25:09

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2012-12-14 12:26:47 PM

lennavan: I don't know that we should shame women on birth control.


Of course we should, filthy sluts.

And all you disgusting farks on antibiotics... well, you shouldn't have been exposing yourself to bacteria in the first place.
 
2012-12-14 12:29:43 PM

lennavan: Shaggy_C: I think there should be a certain taboo and shame that comes with drug usage even if it is legalized.

I don't know that we should shame women on birth control.


Furthermore, don't get me started on those goddamned coffee drinkers. Such moral decay will be the death of this once-great nation.
 
2012-12-14 12:38:58 PM

Shaggy_C: incendi: Pretty much everybody has agreed that the states are acting on legally shaky grounds... we're just HOPING that, because we like this, the federal government will take the damn hint and act to make what they're doing legal instead of clamping down in accordance with current law.

I bet you felt the same way when all of the red states rejected Obamacare and refused to implement its required state-run exchanges, eh? They're just trying get the feds to 'take a hint'?

Dr Dreidel: Basically - are you a "clean-living" asshole* who uses that as a high horse you use to look down on everyone else, or are you just not thinking about the words you're using?

Of course, it's always a blurry line between "occasional user", "regular user", "enthusiast", and "addict", but I think you can tell from my tone I'm not out to rip the once a year or even the once or twice a month smoker. I'm thinking more of the multiple times a week types. I think there should be a certain taboo and shame that comes with drug usage even if it is legalized.


My Dad used to have a couple glasses of wine after he got home from work almost every evening. A lot of people do similarly with beer. Is that shameful?
 
2012-12-14 01:19:54 PM

Shaggy_C: I think there should be a certain taboo and shame that comes with drug usage even if it is legalized.


Don't worry. There will always be busybodies and holier-than-thou types.

// nicotine is a drug, and one we're shaming people out of quite well
// caffeine is also a drug, and one we ironically shame people INTO ("you don't drink coffee?!?")
 
2012-12-14 01:27:25 PM

mrshowrules: One thing a President can do that does not require a mandate is a pardon. He should pardon every single person in prison for pot possession/trafficing provided there is no link with another crime or violence. He could put Susan Rice in charge of managing the process (for the lulz).


Now where have I heard that idea before?
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2012-12-14 01:47:45 PM

Shaggy_C: red states rejected Obamacare and refused to implement its required state-run exchanges


Obamacare does not require state-run exchanges.
 
2012-12-14 02:06:32 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: My Dad used to have a couple glasses of wine after he got home from work almost every evening. A lot of people do similarly with beer. Is that shameful?


The difference being that marijuana users do not smoke just a puff or two. They smoke to get high. If your dad drank to get piss drunk every night, it would be a totally different ballgame, wouldn't it?
 
2012-12-14 02:15:56 PM

Shaggy_C: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: My Dad used to have a couple glasses of wine after he got home from work almost every evening. A lot of people do similarly with beer. Is that shameful?

The difference being that marijuana users do not smoke just a puff or two. They smoke to get high. If your dad drank to get piss drunk every night, it would be a totally different ballgame, wouldn't it?


Funny, I've known plenty who take a couple drags just to "relax". Not get wasted out of their skulls. How many smokers to you know?
 
2012-12-14 02:19:50 PM

Shaggy_C: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: My Dad used to have a couple glasses of wine after he got home from work almost every evening. A lot of people do similarly with beer. Is that shameful?

The difference being that marijuana users do not smoke just a puff or two. They smoke to get high. If your dad drank to get piss drunk every night, it would be a totally different ballgame, wouldn't it?


In your mind, someone who has 1-2 drinks in a night - they do this for...what, exactly? Because beer/vodak is so tasty (I'll grant that wine is usually not so foul-tasting, but no one can really say it's the tastiest drink one can imbibe)? Because whiskey is good for you? To keep their skin looking youthful? For its amazing restorative powers?

Or is it "to catch a buzz"? (Even if you're drinking a glass of red a day "for your heart", there is a biochemical "buzz-catching" going on.)

// and there are very much people who only take the occasional puff or two - to "take the edge off", usually in conjunction with alcohol, or at a social event
// and don't give me "social drinking" - I don't much care for booze, and a Sprite (or even nothing at all) will allow me to be social with the crowd
 
2012-12-14 02:25:04 PM

Shaggy_C: The difference being that marijuana users do not smoke just a puff or two.


Speak for yourself, hippie. Back when I smoked, that was my usual. Any more than that and I'd be too quiet to have any fun around people.
 
2012-12-14 02:58:33 PM

Shaggy_C: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: My Dad used to have a couple glasses of wine after he got home from work almost every evening. A lot of people do similarly with beer. Is that shameful?

The difference being that marijuana users do not smoke just a puff or two. They smoke to get high. If your dad drank to get piss drunk every night, it would be a totally different ballgame, wouldn't it?



I don't quite agree with this comparison. There are users who do smoke a puff or two to get a little buzz/little high; there are others who smoke quite a bit and get really high. Granted, we don't have a nice quantified measure of "highness" like we do with alcohol (BAC).

Is the person drinking one beer to take the edge off or drinking a case to get drunk. In both cases they are still consuming alcohol for effect. If someone drinks beer for the taste, are they drinking non-alcholic beer or regular beer? If it is the first, then ok. if it is the second, then they are lying.

If someone is consuming alcohol, it is for the effect.
 
2012-12-14 05:05:36 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Why does Derpy_C care so much?


Nobody else remembers when Shaggy used to post normal? At some point in the last couple of years he got bored and started posting trolly, for whatever reason. Just ignore it. He's baiting you, with great success.
 
2012-12-15 01:20:28 AM
I'm surprised there isn't a change.org petition asking him to push Congress to legalize it in states that have already.
 
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