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2012-12-14 11:35:12 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-14 11:35:33 AM

MadCat221: The problem I saw with the income/expenditure ratio for TRON: Legacy wasn't necessarily the movie's budget, but the absurd amount of marketing that Disney put into it. Numbers I recall seeing showed that they spent more on marketing than the movie budget itself.


Ironically, I didn't see much advertising for the movie. I think someone at Disney was doing creative accounting.
 
2012-12-14 11:35:40 AM

I am Wee Todd Ed: Plus, can a User extend their natural life by living solely in the grid? Flynn said that minutes and hours in the real world was days and months in the grid. If a User's physical body is downloaded to the grid, can't someone go into their program and delete any undesired medical conditions? Say you have cancer, well download to the grid and live there for as long as it takes for someone in the reall world to adjust your program to eliminate all the cancer cells. You upload back to the real world in a new physical body that is now free of cancer. Remember how the laser thingee makes a users physical body disappear when downloading to the grid and reappear when uploading? Why can't it eliminate certain medical issues?


That's something that was actually hinted at in the movie when Flynn talks about how the ISO's would revolutionize the world as they know it.
 
2012-12-14 11:41:55 AM

I am Wee Todd Ed: The purpose of the grid is so that Flynn can play God

If you think about it, Flynn created a computer universe which he can sculpt and mold as he wishes. He can create programs that can think and feel for itself. He can come down from the real, physical world to visit and interact with his creation much like God. CLU, like Lucifer knew Flynn/God's plan for the universe, didn't like it, and tried to create his own version of the universe. CLU knew that there was another plain of reality and wanted to overtake that other reality much like Lucifer storming the gates of Heaven.

Also, like God, Flynn can fix damaged programs and correct any glitches basically he can eliminate all pain and suffering and create a paradise for his creations to live in. So, is Flynn an a$$hole? Because when he leaves the grid he can't fix damaged programs or glitches since he's not there physically. Doesn't he have an obligation to look after his creation? Is he a bad god?

There are programs that created themselves and come out of the darkness to the grid. Flynn didn't create them and wonders how they came into being. They are exterminated by CLU but if they created themselves it makes you wonder if they can ever really be destroyed forever as where do they really go after death?

Plus, can a User extend their natural life by living solely in the grid? Flynn said that minutes and hours in the real world was days and months in the grid. If a User's physical body is downloaded to the grid, can't someone go into their program and delete any undesired medical conditions? Say you have cancer, well download to the grid and live there for as long as it takes for someone in the reall world to adjust your program to eliminate all the cancer cells. You upload back to the real world in a new physical body that is now free of cancer. Remember how the laser thingee makes a users physical body disappear when downloading to the grid and reappear when uploading? Why can't it eliminate cer ...


yarmarge.typepad.com
 
2012-12-14 11:46:02 AM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: [www.moviespad.com image 410x513]
In theory, this character has absolutely no idea what sex is. This alone makes Tron 3 a worthy endeavour.

/I would so tongue punch her USB port.


Just stay away from her SATA connector. She doesn't wipe.
 
2012-12-14 11:48:12 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Summer Glau's Love Slave: [www.moviespad.com image 410x513]
In theory, this character has absolutely no idea what sex is. This alone makes Tron 3 a worthy endeavour.

/I would so tongue punch her USB port.

Just stay away from her SATA connector. She doesn't wipe.


No problem! I wipe my hard drive all the time!

//wait, what?
 
2012-12-14 11:49:01 AM

I am Wee Todd Ed: The purpose of the grid is so that Flynn can play God

If you think about it, Flynn created a computer universe which he can sculpt and mold as he wishes. He can create programs that can think and feel for itself. He can come down from the real, physical world to visit and interact with his creation much like God. CLU, like Lucifer knew Flynn/God's plan for the universe, didn't like it, and tried to create his own version of the universe. CLU knew that there was another plain of reality and wanted to overtake that other reality much like Lucifer storming the gates of Heaven.

Also, like God, Flynn can fix damaged programs and correct any glitches basically he can eliminate all pain and suffering and create a paradise for his creations to live in. So, is Flynn an a$$hole? Because when he leaves the grid he can't fix damaged programs or glitches since he's not there physically. Doesn't he have an obligation to look after his creation? Is he a bad god?

There are programs that created themselves and come out of the darkness to the grid. Flynn didn't create them and wonders how they came into being. They are exterminated by CLU but if they created themselves it makes you wonder if they can ever really be destroyed forever as where do they really go after death?

Plus, can a User extend their natural life by living solely in the grid? Flynn said that minutes and hours in the real world was days and months in the grid. If a User's physical body is downloaded to the grid, can't someone go into their program and delete any undesired medical conditions? Say you have cancer, well download to the grid and live there for as long as it takes for someone in the reall world to adjust your program to eliminate all the cancer cells. You upload back to the real world in a new physical body that is now free of cancer. Remember how the laser thingee makes a users physical body disappear when downloading to the grid and reappear when uploading? Why can't it eliminate cer ...


That was one of the things that was mentioned briefly in the opening of the movie. What could be a medical break through a long with science, religion and everything else. But seeing that Sam was cut while on the grid and he bled. I would say, no, a physical body does not become a digital one that can be rewritten like a digital one can be.
 
2012-12-14 11:49:11 AM
The Ducati motorcycle scene (where he's pulled over by a beemer cop) in the recent film was just farking awesome. They used a real rider on a racetrack with the exact bike to record the engine noise and dub on the film. It's little details like that I appreciate.

Yes, I am a tremendous motorcycle nerd. Always have been. Always will be, presuming I keep living.

Pops.
 
2012-12-14 11:49:58 AM
Why is Tron Legacy getting so much flack?

-Man created program in his image to his work while he was away
-New programs emerge that are deemed not-needed by the image
-New program is capable of helping mankind
-Man tries to stop his own creation and save new program and fails
-Image deems current system "perfect" and wishes to expand into the real world
-Calls the son of it's creator and let the games begin.

The whole movie was basically God and his Son beating up the Holy Spirit or by a huge stretch kind of like that kids show ReBoot from the 90s, just without the technological puns and well actual technological background.

/Alphanumeric!
 
2012-12-14 11:50:35 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Tron Legacy was the better of the two. Sorry. It's one of those films that if I flip across it on TV, I invariably find myself watching it through. The original is interesting, but just not as fun.

And as has been pointed out, Olivia Wilde + Daft Punk = so much farking win it's painful.


Here's the problem. If you didn't see the original in a theatre at its initial release you just can't "get" it. You have to understand that computers weren't as prevalent as they are today, and the people that had them were dealing with screen resolutions that were much worse then average smart phone of today. You also never saw computer generated images in a film, and that's what made the original so groundbreaking. At the time those cgi shots were absolutely breathtaking since you had never seen anything like that. It was like a glimpse of the future, and not only have we gotten that far we have surpassed it enough to where people who weren't there look at the movie and can't understand how old people get so worked up over it. For myself, the story, while also groundbreaking, wasn't really the star of the show it was the computer generated images. Well and the fact that my Dad took me and my brother to see it, and we were so blown away we just sat through to the next showing and watched it twice. Didn't buy more tickets, nothing, just sat there like the nerdy rebels we were.

When Tron Legacy came out I took Dad and bought tickets to sit through it twice. Not quite as rebellious, but it was a cool moment for both of us. I am sure I will do the same for the third movie as well. For the record, my 70 year old Dad is in love with the Daft Punk soundtrack on Legacy. I'm definitely a second generation nerd.
 
2012-12-14 11:58:30 AM
Yes please.
 
2012-12-14 12:00:47 PM

Do the needful: When Tron Legacy came out I took Dad and bought tickets to sit through it twice. Not quite as rebellious, but it was a cool moment for both of us. I am sure I will do the same for the third movie as well. For the record, my 70 year old Dad is in love with the Daft Punk soundtrack on Legacy. I'm definitely a second generation nerd.


I think we've talked about this before on here, but I just wanted to add that it's my favorite IMax 3D experience to date. I couldn't choose what to focus on more between the sound, the visuals, and the movie itself.

dickfreckle: Yes, I am a tremendous motorcycle nerd. Always have been. Always will be, presuming I keep living.


That scene makes me want to buy a motorcycle every time I watch it.
 
2012-12-14 12:03:54 PM

yves0010: That was one of the things that was mentioned briefly in the opening of the movie. What could be a medical break through a long with science, religion and everything else. But seeing that Sam was cut while on the grid and he bled. I would say, no, a physical body does not become a digital one that can be rewritten like a digital one can be.


The body itself may not become digital, but everything about the user becomes encoded onto their data disk once they get one. It was implied that part of this data is everything physical about them, to include injuries and whatnot. Now say someone with the skill could alter the data on the disk to remove whatever disease and whatnot. Remember, the disk was required for them to be able to re enter the real world. The imaging laser or what have you uses that data disk to encode your body on the reality side of things and bam, back to perfect. At least that was my take on things.
 
2012-12-14 12:13:36 PM

thecpt: Do the needful: When Tron Legacy came out I took Dad and bought tickets to sit through it twice. Not quite as rebellious, but it was a cool moment for both of us. I am sure I will do the same for the third movie as well. For the record, my 70 year old Dad is in love with the Daft Punk soundtrack on Legacy. I'm definitely a second generation nerd.

I think we've talked about this before on here, but I just wanted to add that it's my favorite IMax 3D experience to date. I couldn't choose what to focus on more between the sound, the visuals, and the movie itself.


I have to agree. Even with the original the sound was unique. There is/was an article that one of the sound guys had an Atari 800 and used it to help create some of the sounds for the movie. As an owner of the Atari 800 at the time (and still own it) this really made it even cooler.

thecpt: That scene makes me want to buy a motorcycle every time I watch it.


Get one! As a lifelong motorcycle rider I would be remiss if I didn't encourage you. Take the MSF course and be careful. If done right you can enjoy a lifetime of that same feeling.
 
2012-12-14 12:24:30 PM
"They're saying there might be another adventure for us, Kestor!"
idigitalcitizen.files.wordpress.com
"Well then here's to our last drink together, I'd rather blow up the bar than dress up like this again."
 
2012-12-14 12:25:26 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: yves0010: That was one of the things that was mentioned briefly in the opening of the movie. What could be a medical break through a long with science, religion and everything else. But seeing that Sam was cut while on the grid and he bled. I would say, no, a physical body does not become a digital one that can be rewritten like a digital one can be.

The body itself may not become digital, but everything about the user becomes encoded onto their data disk once they get one. It was implied that part of this data is everything physical about them, to include injuries and whatnot. Now say someone with the skill could alter the data on the disk to remove whatever disease and whatnot. Remember, the disk was required for them to be able to re enter the real world. The imaging laser or what have you uses that data disk to encode your body on the reality side of things and bam, back to perfect. At least that was my take on things.


That's what I was thinking! When you get re-uploaded to the physical world why can't the laser thingee just not add the cancer cells, diseases, broken limb, etc.,. you were originally downloaded with?

Plus, you could eliminate so much humanitarian disasters simply by downloading people to the grid! The grid seems to have an unlimited supply of resources, food, water, living space, etc.,. that you could have people just download and stay in the grid permanently to alieve problems in the real world. Voluntarily of course! "hmmm....live in a third world country and face ethnic cleansing, famine, high crime, etc.,. or live in the grid where all my phyiscal needs are met?"

I love the Tron movies and the movies also generated so many interesting things to think about! Tron makes more sense than the Matrix.
 
2012-12-14 12:26:25 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: [www.moviespad.com image 410x513]
In theory, this character has absolutely no idea what sex is. This alone makes Tron 3 a worthy endeavour.

/I would so tongue punch her USB port.


Post of the year.
 
2012-12-14 12:26:37 PM
Too much stuff which is not Olivia Wilde
 
2012-12-14 12:28:44 PM
Meh.
 
2012-12-14 12:32:15 PM

I am Wee Todd Ed: I love the Tron movies and the movies also generated so many interesting things to think about! Tron makes more sense than the Matrix.


Disagree. Plugging people into a computer network and feeding signals to their brains seems far more plausible than transporting their entire body into a computer. Plus, the latter comes with the whole "transporter" scenario: you'd just be murdering the individual and creating a copy with a separate consciousness that doesn't realize it isn't the original.
 
2012-12-14 12:32:33 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Summer Glau's Love Slave: [www.moviespad.com image 410x513]
In theory, this character has absolutely no idea what sex is. This alone makes Tron 3 a worthy endeavour.

/I would so tongue punch her USB port.

Post of the year.


Possibly....best of December easily
 
2012-12-14 12:35:24 PM

kungfu jesus with a side of lime: mcgreggers99: kungfu jesus with a side of lime: this thread needs more olivia wilde

Say what now?

and i'm spent
seriously that is stupide hot


END OF LINE.
 
2012-12-14 12:36:39 PM

Do the needful: For the record, my 70 year old Dad is in love with the Daft Punk soundtrack on Legacy.


Your dad sounds awesome.
 
2012-12-14 12:42:51 PM
Cyberspace being a real place we can visit will be hard to make plausible again. Tron 2 Suckage Boogaloo was not remotely believable.
 
2012-12-14 12:47:30 PM

macdaddy357: Cyberspace being a real place we can visit will be hard to make plausible again. Tron 2 Suckage Boogaloo was not remotely believable.


Again? It was never plausible in the first place. I mean yeah there's suspension of disbelief but let's not kid ourselves, the concept of a laser derezzing someone and planting you in cyberspace was never what you'd call plausible or realistic. I enjoyed both of the movies and the questions they asked, not to mention the eyecandy and cool visuals, but I never once thought anything I was seeing was plausible.
 
2012-12-14 01:29:09 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: I am Wee Todd Ed: I love the Tron movies and the movies also generated so many interesting things to think about! Tron makes more sense than the Matrix.

Disagree. Plugging people into a computer network and feeding signals to their brains seems far more plausible than transporting their entire body into a computer. Plus, the latter comes with the whole "transporter" scenario: you'd just be murdering the individual and creating a copy with a separate consciousness that doesn't realize it isn't the original.


Um....yeah.....but...er.....um.....like...what if....what if Zion, the robot-war, the creation of the matrix, is itself another matrix? 1% of humanity doesn't accept the matrix so why wouldn't 1% of the1% not accept Zion? Humans farmed for energy? WTF? Also, no offense to anyone but most computer geeks are not buffed dudes and hot chicks who like to wear weird fetish clothes to blend in...just sayin'.

And I think when a user dies in the grid, their program is "de-rezed" (?) which I think means deleted. So you couldn't create another individual/clone who died in the grid with the laser thingee as their program was deleted.

You do bring up the issue of clones, could you create an infinite number of a particular individual thanks to the grid and the laser thingee?

Keep downloading someone over and over again to the grid or to the real world. Is there really any limitations to copying a program over and over again?

Did Flynn also create teleportation?

Send a laser thingee to mars and set it up with remote controlled robots. Download some astronauts/colonists here on Earth to the grid, upload them on Mars....boom...I just created teleportation and human space travel over incredible distances is now possible!!!
 
2012-12-14 01:30:23 PM

ModernPrimitive01: Tron 2 was lame. Tron 1 was amazingly inventive and revolutionary. It sparked many a nerdy conversation and left you thinking about deeper issues. Tron 2 was an action movie a video game with lots of neon


FTFY
 
2012-12-14 01:39:44 PM

I am Wee Todd Ed: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: I am Wee Todd Ed: I love the Tron movies and the movies also generated so many interesting things to think about! Tron makes more sense than the Matrix.

Disagree. Plugging people into a computer network and feeding signals to their brains seems far more plausible than transporting their entire body into a computer. Plus, the latter comes with the whole "transporter" scenario: you'd just be murdering the individual and creating a copy with a separate consciousness that doesn't realize it isn't the original.

Um....yeah.....but...er.....um.....like...what if....what if Zion, the robot-war, the creation of the matrix, is itself another matrix? 1% of humanity doesn't accept the matrix so why wouldn't 1% of the1% not accept Zion? Humans farmed for energy? WTF? Also, no offense to anyone but most computer geeks are not buffed dudes and hot chicks who like to wear weird fetish clothes to blend in...just sayin'.

And I think when a user dies in the grid, their program is "de-rezed" (?) which I think means deleted. So you couldn't create another individual/clone who died in the grid with the laser thingee as their program was deleted.

You do bring up the issue of clones, could you create an infinite number of a particular individual thanks to the grid and the laser thingee?

Keep downloading someone over and over again to the grid or to the real world. Is there really any limitations to copying a program over and over again?

Did Flynn also create teleportation?

Send a laser thingee to mars and set it up with remote controlled robots. Download some astronauts/colonists here on Earth to the grid, upload them on Mars....boom...I just created teleportation and human space travel over incredible distances is now possible!!!


I'm guessing the matter / energy part may stop making additional copies of people ...unless you just upload an equal mass of dirt or scrap furniture, turn that into energy, then convert that energy into the matter of a clone.

And yes: teleportation should be as easy as sending an email.

/you wouldn't download an Olivia Wilde...
//...actually: screw that, yes I would.
 
2012-12-14 01:40:01 PM

JustHereForThePics: No problem! I wipe my hard drive all the time!


*cough* Floppy */cough*
 
2012-12-14 01:40:09 PM

MadCat221: Unless Castor/Zuse had an escape plan, she is alas blow'd up along with Ziggy Stardust Zuse


mcp# tar -czf /nfs/nas6/backup/programs/gem.tgz /usr/local/bin/Gem
..
guards# rm -f /usr/local/bin/Gem
..
somehero# cd /usr/local/bin/
somehero# tar -xzf /nfs/nas6/backup/programs/gem.tgz


FTFY
 
2012-12-14 02:25:06 PM

Dinjiin: More, please.
images12.fotki.com

1.bp.blogspot.com
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2012-12-14 02:26:21 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Do the needful: For the record, my 70 year old Dad is in love with the Daft Punk soundtrack on Legacy.

Your dad sounds awesome.


My dad isn't quite 70, but feels the same way. (About the movies/soundtrack, not that guy's dad). 2nd generation nerd for sure; he was running a mac-only BBS out of our basement over a bank of 28.8 and 33.6 modems in 91-92? I was small; all I cared about was getting to have my friends over and play 8 way games of Marathon 2 and Spectre VR on our appletalk network.

/3rd generation nerd due in june
//one of my most pressing concerns is coming up with a timeline of age-appropriate movies to watch as he grows
///defaulting to male pronoun
 
2012-12-14 02:27:31 PM

I am Wee Todd Ed: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: I am Wee Todd Ed: I love the Tron movies and the movies also generated so many interesting things to think about! Tron makes more sense than the Matrix.

Disagree. Plugging people into a computer network and feeding signals to their brains seems far more plausible than transporting their entire body into a computer. Plus, the latter comes with the whole "transporter" scenario: you'd just be murdering the individual and creating a copy with a separate consciousness that doesn't realize it isn't the original.

Um....yeah.....but...er.....um.....like...what if....what if Zion, the robot-war, the creation of the matrix, is itself another matrix? 1% of humanity doesn't accept the matrix so why wouldn't 1% of the1% not accept Zion? Humans farmed for energy? WTF? Also, no offense to anyone but most computer geeks are not buffed dudes and hot chicks who like to wear weird fetish clothes to blend in...just sayin'.

And I think when a user dies in the grid, their program is "de-rezed" (?) which I think means deleted. So you couldn't create another individual/clone who died in the grid with the laser thingee as their program was deleted.

You do bring up the issue of clones, could you create an infinite number of a particular individual thanks to the grid and the laser thingee?

Keep downloading someone over and over again to the grid or to the real world. Is there really any limitations to copying a program over and over again?

Did Flynn also create teleportation?

Send a laser thingee to mars and set it up with remote controlled robots. Download some astronauts/colonists here on Earth to the grid, upload them on Mars....boom...I just created teleportation and human space travel over incredible distances is now possible!!!


But you KILLED them, dammit! You killed the person and re-built a new one on Mars! TELEPORTERS = MURDER!!!! And what's worse, everyone you "teleport" insists they're fine, because they don't know any better! We'll be a culture of mass murder and naive clones and no one will know...we'll just go about our lives repeatedly killing ourselves and not ever knowing the difference.

/just kidding
//but not really
 
2012-12-14 02:54:31 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: I am Wee Todd Ed: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: I am Wee Todd Ed: I love the Tron movies and the movies also generated so many interesting things to think about! Tron makes more sense than the Matrix.

Disagree. Plugging people into a computer network and feeding signals to their brains seems far more plausible than transporting their entire body into a computer. Plus, the latter comes with the whole "transporter" scenario: you'd just be murdering the individual and creating a copy with a separate consciousness that doesn't realize it isn't the original.

Um....yeah.....but...er.....um.....like...what if....what if Zion, the robot-war, the creation of the matrix, is itself another matrix? 1% of humanity doesn't accept the matrix so why wouldn't 1% of the1% not accept Zion? Humans farmed for energy? WTF? Also, no offense to anyone but most computer geeks are not buffed dudes and hot chicks who like to wear weird fetish clothes to blend in...just sayin'.

And I think when a user dies in the grid, their program is "de-rezed" (?) which I think means deleted. So you couldn't create another individual/clone who died in the grid with the laser thingee as their program was deleted.

You do bring up the issue of clones, could you create an infinite number of a particular individual thanks to the grid and the laser thingee?

Keep downloading someone over and over again to the grid or to the real world. Is there really any limitations to copying a program over and over again?

Did Flynn also create teleportation?

Send a laser thingee to mars and set it up with remote controlled robots. Download some astronauts/colonists here on Earth to the grid, upload them on Mars....boom...I just created teleportation and human space travel over incredible distances is now possible!!!

But you KILLED them, dammit! You killed the person and re-built a new one on Mars! TELEPORTERS = MURDER!!!! And what's worse, everyone you "teleport" insists they're fine, because they don't know any better! We'l ...


But you are assuming souls are transferrable and maybe like in Total Recall you are not necessarily defined by your memories? There is also the Star Wars Stormtrooper dilemma. They are all clones but differ in personalities and have their own conscious.

I was also thinking that BSG: CAPRICA kind of makes sense. Your body dies in the real world while you are in the virtual world and you end up trapped in the virtual world. So if you now die in the virtual world you are dead period? No place for your conscious to transfer. How would you know the afterlife from the virtual world?

*Couldn't finish the season after I found out they cancelled the show.
 
2012-12-14 03:08:27 PM

Do the needful: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: You also never saw computer generated images in a film, and that's what made the original so groundbreaking. At the time those cgi shots were absolutely breathtaking since you had never seen anything like that. It was like a glimpse of the future


Except they were all hand drawn in post productions. No actual computers were used the animation. The first movie to really do CG was Wrath of Kahn, the genesis description scene.
 
2012-12-14 03:22:11 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Tron Legacy was the better of the two. Sorry. It's one of those films that if I flip across it on TV, I invariably find myself watching it through. The original is interesting, but just not as fun.

And as has been pointed out, Olivia Wilde + Daft Punk = so much farking win it's painful.


You like bad things and you should be ashamed of yourself
 
2012-12-14 03:26:00 PM

BAMFinator: Do the needful: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: You also never saw computer generated images in a film, and that's what made the original so groundbreaking. At the time those cgi shots were absolutely breathtaking since you had never seen anything like that. It was like a glimpse of the future

Except they were all hand drawn in post productions. No actual computers were used the animation. The first movie to really do CG was Wrath of Kahn, the genesis description scene.


Not all of the graphics were drawn. According to wikipedia:

Tron was one of the first movies to make extensive use of any form of computer animation, and is celebrated as a milestone in the industry; but only fifteen to twenty minutes of such animation were used,[8] mostly scenes that show digital "terrain" or patterns or include vehicles such as light-cycles, tanks and ships.
 
2012-12-14 03:26:56 PM

Odd Bird: Too much stuff which is not Olivia Wilde


THIS50.
 
2012-12-14 03:31:43 PM

dmars: And as has been pointed out, Olivia Wilde + Daft Punk = so much farking win it's painful.


I should have not used this part of the quote because daft punk and olvia wilde are both great but that doesn't equal a good story/plot/movie
 
2012-12-14 03:34:30 PM

Do the needful: BAMFinator: Do the needful: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: You also never saw computer generated images in a film, and that's what made the original so groundbreaking. At the time those cgi shots were absolutely breathtaking since you had never seen anything like that. It was like a glimpse of the future

Except they were all hand drawn in post productions. No actual computers were used the animation. The first movie to really do CG was Wrath of Kahn, the genesis description scene.

Not all of the graphics were drawn. According to wikipedia:

Tron was one of the first movies to make extensive use of any form of computer animation, and is celebrated as a milestone in the industry; but only fifteen to twenty minutes of such animation were used,[8] mostly scenes that show digital "terrain" or patterns or include vehicles such as light-cycles, tanks and ships.


I have never been happier to be proven wrong.
 
2012-12-14 03:40:50 PM
Oh, please, subby.

ANOTHER sci-fi movie that the fanboys rant and rave will be the 'best movie evah!' and will most likely turnout to be run-of -the-mill crap.

Like 'Prometheus'. Or the 'Hulk' movies or 'Alien vs. Predator'.

I'm sick of all the hype put out about movies that haven't been made yet.
 
2012-12-14 03:47:12 PM
I assume I'm not the only one that read the "yesyesyesyes" bit as a skrillex sample on repeat over the sound of a dying dot-matrix printer.
 
2012-12-14 03:53:25 PM

Dimensio: snip


Oddly enough, they did give some (very brief) background info on Zeus/Castor. He mentions he was the program that determined odds for the games originally. How he re-purposed himself is a mystery, but it does sort of explain the whole "playing all the angles" bit. From the movie you can garner he "bet" on Flynn during the coup, saw what happened, and assumed the Users would fail a second time, so he should side with CLU. Admittedly, it's still very weak and the movie definitely could have been better played out.
 
2012-12-14 03:55:27 PM
Except Tron 2 was awful and totally missed the point of the original movie. Everything was energy, everything. The water was energy, which is why it recharged the lights on their suits when they drank it. The walls were energy. Everything was. That's how it could be manipulated so easily. That's how the tank could be reconstituted. That's why the metaphorical computer world was so interesting.

When you turn it all into glossy plastic, you ruin what makes it interesting. When the vehicles are actual vehicles with physical weight, it's not nearly as compelling. When you drown the action in a mind numbing sound track and fill the movie full of bland, Hollywood kung fu, you betray the central narrative and the weight of the characters.

Also, they couldn't have chosen a more wooden, boring, bad actor for the lead. But hey, he was hunky and that's all that matters. At least Bridges was still awesome though.
 
2012-12-14 04:05:34 PM
Daft punk sucks. I was laughing during that whole scene with Daft Punk. Totally lame and totally fanservice. Absolutely unnecessary and detracted from the movie, a movie which was already turning out to be pretty bad.
The whole movie was basically fanservice of "look at all the pretty lights". The villian was lame and overplayed, and the hero was weak and underdeveloped.
A Hot chick + Popular band does not make a good movie.
 
2012-12-14 04:20:11 PM

BAMFinator: I have never been happier to be proven wrong.


I know they touted the fact that it used computer generated graphics before it was out, and I also just found the link to the article about using the Atari 800 for some of the sounds. There's mention in there as well about computer generated graphics. As for the artwork that was done, have you seen the book "The Art of Tron" by Michael Bonifer? It's pretty amazing as well and explains quite a bit. Might have to pull it out and look through it this weekend.

Atari Connection Summer '82 PDF File. - It's on pages 12 and 13.
 
2012-12-14 04:56:31 PM

Qwertyette: Daft punk sucks. I was laughing during that whole scene with Daft Punk. Totally lame and totally fanservice. Absolutely unnecessary and detracted from the movie, a movie which was already turning out to be pretty bad.
The whole movie was basically fanservice of "look at all the pretty lights". The villian was lame and overplayed, and the hero was weak and underdeveloped.
A Hot chick + Popular band does not make a good movie.


If you like electronic music it's hard to ignore the influence Daft Punk has had on the genre. I like some of their stuff, but I think the music for the movie was bland and the inclusion on them IN the movie was ridiculous.

I picture the conversation going something like this:

"We have to put them in the movie."

"What are you talking about?! They are musicians! How is this supposed to add value to the script?!"

"Look, they already made their own outfits. Helmets and everything. No-one has the heart to tell them no."

*sigh*
 
2012-12-14 05:03:29 PM

thecpt: Fark yes. Loved the sequel, but fans are obviously awaiting for two more announcements for inclusion in the third:

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one glaring thing that stick out in my mine... Back when the movie came out, and everybody was excited that Daft punk was doing the music for the film, a Fark commenter complained that that they didn't like it because it sounded too much like a movie score..

had to facepalm when I read that..


I liked Tron Legacy.. it was what it was. a fun summer flick, and moved along a lot faster than Tron did. I finally got around to ACTUALLY watching it on a 19 hour train ride last spring. A decade and more removed from the original for sure, and I can see where a lot of folks would scream about raped childhoods and all.

but hell, that happens with all these flicks..
 
2012-12-14 05:20:56 PM

GriffXX: Qwertyette: Daft punk sucks. I was laughing during that whole scene with Daft Punk. Totally lame and totally fanservice. Absolutely unnecessary and detracted from the movie, a movie which was already turning out to be pretty bad.
The whole movie was basically fanservice of "look at all the pretty lights". The villian was lame and overplayed, and the hero was weak and underdeveloped.
A Hot chick + Popular band does not make a good movie.

If you like electronic music it's hard to ignore the influence Daft Punk has had on the genre. I like some of their stuff, but I think the music for the movie was bland and the inclusion on them IN the movie was ridiculous.

I picture the conversation going something like this:

"We have to put them in the movie."

"What are you talking about?! They are musicians! How is this supposed to add value to the script?!"

"Look, they already made their own outfits. Helmets and everything. No-one has the heart to tell them no."

*sigh*


I love electronic, and I love Daft punk.. though, admittedly, I'm a bigger fan of Fatboy slim...Hell.. I even have all of Daft punk's stuff including live bootlegs.. word to the wise though.. don't bother downloading multiple copies of the same tour..

in any case

I agree with your assessment.. and you got a chuckle out of that.. but really.. wasn't the scene more or less just a Cameo anyways? it's not like they were some kind of mystical force leading the way down a maze complete with magical ZZtop'esque hand gestures point in the right direction or something.
 
2012-12-14 05:49:30 PM

bdub77: The second Tron movie sucked donkey balls, like they tried to make it all Matrix-y and failed miserably. It showed a complete lack of imagination and creativity. The original at least had that.


Lol... your posting leads me to believe you've never seen Tron 2, nor the Matrix.
 
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