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(Politico)   Stephen Colbert donates all of his super PAC money to charity, potentially pissing off lots of viewers who actually think he's a fire-breathing conservative   (politico.com) divider line 35
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2012-12-14 09:17:04 AM
5 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.


There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.
2012-12-14 08:59:56 AM
5 votes:
I'm just old enough to remember when we used to admire the poltical leaders, and laugh at the comedians. Now it's exactly the opposite.
2012-12-14 09:25:47 AM
3 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.


There is a difference between 'retain skepticism' and 'always assume the worst'.
2012-12-14 09:12:24 AM
3 votes:

badhatharry: Conservatives give more to charity. Colbert should have given it to the government.


Making sure that Joel Osteen can buy another $5,000 suit or that the Pope can maintain his art collection is not charity.
2012-12-14 09:10:17 AM
3 votes:

badhatharry: Conservatives give more to charity. Colbert should have given it to the government.


No, conservatives give to religious institutions that vote for them. Just because it's deductible doesn't mean they use it for charity. They build huge opulent temples unto themselves and fly in private jets and take old people's social security checks selling them prayer hankies and a false sense of security
2012-12-14 09:47:39 AM
2 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: thurstonxhowell: Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.

You're just a fountain of what you believe to be wise-sounding platitudes, aren't you?

Sorry for interrupting the hero worship. Please continue with the adulation uninterrupted.


God forbid we should resist rushing to judgement and then be proven absolutely correct about his character. He's doing what nobody else has done, and has done it under the cover of satire.

I'd imagine most of us have a "bit of skepticism" about Colbert. But, since he has not yet done anything to justify that, we can't jump to negative conclusions until we see the end of this particular performance. You just couldn't wait a farking month to see the end.

We're not worshiping a hero - we're laughing at people like you. Get over yourself.
2012-12-14 09:40:40 AM
2 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: thurstonxhowell: Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.

You're just a fountain of what you believe to be wise-sounding platitudes, aren't you?

Sorry for interrupting the hero worship. Please continue with the adulation uninterrupted.


maybe you aren't a regular viewer, but it was pretty obvious he wasn't going to keep the money.

He was very clear where the money went every step of the way (did the paperwork on air) and when he made it 'disappear' it was obviously part of the entire demonstration as to why these PACs are criminal. He did it very openly.

IF he were to never mention the money again, you can bet his viewers wouldn't just trust it went to charity. That said, the fact that people were willing to wait a few weeks before forming a mob over where the money went doesn't amount to hero worship.
people expected him to do something good with it and he did, after demonstrating how easy it is to game that awful system.
2012-12-14 09:28:36 AM
2 votes:

Kiinux: Nothing to see here. Liberals love giving away money that isn't their own.


ok I'll bite...

Cons love giving billions of dollars in money that isn't their own to corporations they used to run and still have financial ties to, through no bid contracts. So they can help us in an unnecessary war started by Cons based on false pretenses.

how the GOP bashing of government aid to the poor has any traction after what they did with their 8 years in the WH is a great mystery.

billions wasted on an optional war that they never cared to pay for, false pretenses for a war that killed thousands, and the cherry on top? crash the entire US economy on the way out.



hey guys? is it ok if we help the poor?

NO!!!! you wasteful Democrats will spend us to oblivion!

what a joke the GOP is.

/the Dems need to get mean with these people
2012-12-14 09:27:38 AM
2 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.


You're just a fountain of what you believe to be wise-sounding platitudes, aren't you?
2012-12-14 09:24:53 AM
2 votes:

badhatharry: Conservatives give more to charity. Colbert should have given it to the government.


Religion is not a real charity.
2012-12-14 09:06:04 AM
2 votes:

born_yesterday: Huh. So if Colbert can donate PAC money to charity, doesn't that mean all of the candidates could as well? I don't recall hearing about any candidate doing this...I wonder what they do with all that PAC money, since they technically can't legally spend it?


Technically the money doesn't exist.
2012-12-14 08:53:09 AM
2 votes:
All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."
2012-12-14 08:42:29 AM
2 votes:

Kiinux: Nothing to see here. Liberals love giving away money that isn't their own.


Conservatives like funneling it to their wealthy friends.
2012-12-14 08:30:59 AM
2 votes:
I would like to see Rove do the same. Conservative always argue that charity is their forte. Well lets see some charitable donations in the multi-million dollar levels.
2012-12-14 02:33:03 PM
1 votes:

jst3p: unexplained bacon: Well that's true but the point is that a church member giving money to their church isn't necessarily charity.
More like membership dues

OK, whatever works for them.


Right, good for them

Just dont try to convince me giving to your church is the same as giving to a charity.
2012-12-14 01:13:16 PM
1 votes:

Mikey1969: mrshowrules: tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.

Charity:
[fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com image 500x376]

Encouraging laziness:
[www.findingdulcinea.com image 456x275]

Just to keep things clear, the LDS charities are huge. The temples are ornate, but there is really also plenty of money going to true charity. I know, I know, we want to hate on the Mo's whenever possible, but this is one where people are wrong. Growing up around them, and then coming back to Utah 6 years ago, I've seen them help out plenty, and it's not just to church members, like people try and claim also.


What percentage of the Mormon churches (or any Church's) revenue is used for actual charity? McDonald's spends a fortune on important charities so I should be able to donate to them and right it off?
2012-12-14 12:40:50 PM
1 votes:

jst3p: NateGrey: jst3p:

That sounds so sweet, Anecdotal evidence is a kind of evidence, a couple hundred here to pay some bills, 25 million tax free dollars there to fund anti Prop 8 measures.

They are upstanding citizens though, sometimes:

Facing this investigation, which was going to show the church had lied, the Mormon leadership decided to file a new, updated report which admitted they had filed misleading financial reports before.

Meh, pick any large group of people and you will find cheats and liars. Mormons do some farked up shiat, we all do.


Well that's true but the point is that a church member giving money to their church isn't necessarily charity.
More like membership dues
2012-12-14 12:31:08 PM
1 votes:
2012-12-14 12:18:22 PM
1 votes:

jst3p: jst3p: ghare: oh, I dunno, I remember when a conservatNateGrey: tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.

Did you see how much Romney donated to the Mormon Church?

And he didn't even take the full deduction!

To play devil's advocate, the Mormon church has a lot of flaws but one thing they are good at is taking care of those in need, so long as those in need subscribe to their crazy. I grew up around a Mormon family that hit some pretty hard times when tdad, the sole breadwinner, had the double whammy of cancer and treatment for cancer that made him unable to work. According to him the fact that he was a Mormon who was in good standing (meaning he tithed 10%) the church was there to help him out. Apparently the church was there to make up the gap on the bills they couldn't pay until he was able to go back to work and start tithing again. I know this story is anecdotal but according to them this is SOP for the church, if you are in good standing.

I lean left and loathe the current GoP but I think it is a pretty valid point that both the left and the right, in general, want to help the needy they just differ in their delivery. The right want private charity to do it and the left wants government to do it.

/flame away fark progressives

Now with less broken HTML!


Isn't this just the church version of mandatory insurance coverage? If you have to be in good "standing" how is it charity and not just getting what you pay for?
2012-12-14 11:15:22 AM
1 votes:

Rich Cream: qorkfiend: Zerochance: [img.photobucket.com image 400x318]
It burned down to the ground a couple of years ago. I shiat you not, it got struck by lightning and caught fire.

I honestly cannot think of a more fitting end. I bet the irony was entirely lost on the church authorities there, though.


You guys talk like the Devil couldn't shoot lightning bolts out his ass, if he wanted to.


I think the Devil would be perfectly fine with such an ostentatious display of money.
2012-12-14 10:42:44 AM
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."


People really thought that? People are dumb. Even for concern trolling, that's dumb.
2012-12-14 10:34:34 AM
1 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: thurstonxhowell: Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.

You're just a fountain of what you believe to be wise-sounding platitudes, aren't you?

Sorry for interrupting the hero worship. Please continue with the adulation uninterrupted.

WTF does that even mean - "hero worship"? Is it impossible for you to admire someone that has consistently shown to be a valuable member of society, an amazingly clever and funny comedian/social commentator, and philanthropist?

Lighten up, Francis.

If you have read this thread and don't know what "Hero Worship" means, I can't help you. I'm sure Colbert could.


I know what "Hero Worship" means. I should have been more specific and apologize for not spelling it out for you more definitively.

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HERO WORSHIP IN THIS THREAD FOR?

I will now follow up with a quote from DirkValentine (me, if that's too hard for you to follow):

Is it impossible for you to admire someone that has consistently shown to be a valuable member of society, an amazingly clever and funny comedian/social commentator, and philanthropist?
2012-12-14 10:18:55 AM
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.


Charity:
fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com

Encouraging laziness:
www.findingdulcinea.com
2012-12-14 10:15:21 AM
1 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: thurstonxhowell: Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.

You're just a fountain of what you believe to be wise-sounding platitudes, aren't you?

Sorry for interrupting the hero worship. Please continue with the adulation uninterrupted.


WTF does that even mean - "hero worship"? Is it impossible for you to admire someone that has consistently shown to be a valuable member of society, an amazingly clever and funny comedian/social commentator, and philanthropist?

Lighten up, Francis.
2012-12-14 09:51:14 AM
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: God forbid we should resist rushing to judgement and then be proven absolutely correct about his character. He's doing what nobody else has done, and has done it under the cover of satire.


The guy is farking amazing. It's really unbelievable. He managed to educate his entire audience about how PACs work and how insidious they are, and they were laughing while he did it.
2012-12-14 09:49:05 AM
1 votes:

unexplained bacon: people expected him to do something good with it and he did,


i think the charity thing is great. i would still have been much happier to see donald trump get tea-bagged for one million before the money went to charity...
2012-12-14 09:47:49 AM
1 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.


As soon as he does something to lose the respect he's earned, you'll have a point. He hasn't yet. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt once.
2012-12-14 09:13:34 AM
1 votes:

born_yesterday: Huh. So if Colbert can donate PAC money to charity, doesn't that mean all of the candidates could as well? I don't recall hearing about any candidate doing this...I wonder what they do with all that PAC money, since they technically can't legally spend it?

I mean, because if they could, then you'd get political hacks and con men setting up PACs just to grift idological members of the American public--and they wouldn't stand for it!


Jon Stewart had a guest on his show who explained how PAC money could legally be channeled back into the hands of, well, anyone - including the candidate. So... there's that.
2012-12-14 09:00:42 AM
1 votes:
good on ya Stephen. Nice touch with the Ham Rove memorial.
2012-12-14 08:59:10 AM
1 votes:

Kiinux: Nothing to see here. Liberals love giving away money that isn't their own.


And Conservatives obviously would rather spend that money on killing brown people.
2012-12-14 08:56:17 AM
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."


More likely, they'll decide the charities he picked are controlled by George Soros.
2012-12-14 08:51:06 AM
1 votes:

Britney Spear's Speculum: What? No donation to a Save The Polar Bear charity?


BEARS!
2012-12-14 08:36:57 AM
1 votes:

rev. dave: I would like to see Rove do the same. Conservative always argue that charity is their forte. Well lets see some charitable donations in the multi-million dollar levels.


Contemporary conservatives do not hesitate to donate to charity, when that charity is their own church and when the tax-deductible donations are necessary to keep their tax rate equal to or above a tax rate that they have claimed to have paid.
2012-12-14 08:34:49 AM
1 votes:

rev. dave: I would like to see Rove do the same. Conservative always argue that charity is their forte. Well lets see some charitable donations in the multi-million dollar levels.


I am sure conservatives make plenty of mutli-million dollar donations. Donations like that keep the Pat Robersons of the world going.
2012-12-14 08:29:52 AM
1 votes:
oh, I dunno, I remember when a conservative would have done something like help the poor. Maybe he's just anachronistic.
 
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