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(Politico)   Stephen Colbert donates all of his super PAC money to charity, potentially pissing off lots of viewers who actually think he's a fire-breathing conservative   (politico.com) divider line 123
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2012-12-14 08:29:52 AM
oh, I dunno, I remember when a conservative would have done something like help the poor. Maybe he's just anachronistic.
 
2012-12-14 08:30:34 AM
Donate to charities supporting learning disabilities and kill two birds with one stone.
 
2012-12-14 08:30:59 AM
I would like to see Rove do the same. Conservative always argue that charity is their forte. Well lets see some charitable donations in the multi-million dollar levels.
 
2012-12-14 08:34:04 AM

rev. dave: I would like to see Rove do the same. Conservative always argue that charity is their forte. Well lets see some charitable donations in the multi-million dollar levels.


Bah, give a leech a capillary and they'll take an aorta.
 
2012-12-14 08:34:49 AM

rev. dave: I would like to see Rove do the same. Conservative always argue that charity is their forte. Well lets see some charitable donations in the multi-million dollar levels.


I am sure conservatives make plenty of mutli-million dollar donations. Donations like that keep the Pat Robersons of the world going.
 
2012-12-14 08:36:06 AM
Lots of funny in that article.
 
2012-12-14 08:36:57 AM

rev. dave: I would like to see Rove do the same. Conservative always argue that charity is their forte. Well lets see some charitable donations in the multi-million dollar levels.


Contemporary conservatives do not hesitate to donate to charity, when that charity is their own church and when the tax-deductible donations are necessary to keep their tax rate equal to or above a tax rate that they have claimed to have paid.
 
2012-12-14 08:39:08 AM
Nothing to see here. Liberals love giving away money that isn't their own.
 
2012-12-14 08:41:39 AM
web.wm.edu
 
2012-12-14 08:42:29 AM

Kiinux: Nothing to see here. Liberals love giving away money that isn't their own.


Conservatives like funneling it to their wealthy friends.
 
2012-12-14 08:43:46 AM
What? No donation to a Save The Polar Bear charity?
 
2012-12-14 08:51:06 AM

Britney Spear's Speculum: What? No donation to a Save The Polar Bear charity?


BEARS!
 
2012-12-14 08:53:09 AM
All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."
 
2012-12-14 08:56:17 AM

rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."


More likely, they'll decide the charities he picked are controlled by George Soros.
 
2012-12-14 08:57:26 AM

rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."


Yeah. That'll happen
 
2012-12-14 08:58:43 AM

rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."


Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.
 
2012-12-14 08:59:10 AM

Kiinux: Nothing to see here. Liberals love giving away money that isn't their own.


And Conservatives obviously would rather spend that money on killing brown people.
 
2012-12-14 08:59:11 AM

imontheinternet: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

More likely, they'll decide the charities he picked are controlled by George Soros.


Did Soros even play a role in the election that was anything comparable to Sheldon Adelson or the Koch Bros.?
 
2012-12-14 08:59:56 AM
I'm just old enough to remember when we used to admire the poltical leaders, and laugh at the comedians. Now it's exactly the opposite.
 
2012-12-14 09:00:42 AM
good on ya Stephen. Nice touch with the Ham Rove memorial.
 
2012-12-14 09:03:08 AM
blog.chron.com
 
2012-12-14 09:04:14 AM

Dhusk: Kiinux: Nothing to see here. Liberals love giving away money that isn't their own.

And Conservatives obviously would rather spend that money on killing brown people.


Or give it to oil companies. Which sometimes has the govt kill brown people for them. Did you notice how quick the Iraq war hype stopped after they got their long term oil contracts?
 
2012-12-14 09:04:35 AM
Conservatives give more to charity. Colbert should have given it to the government.
 
2012-12-14 09:04:36 AM
Huh. So if Colbert can donate PAC money to charity, doesn't that mean all of the candidates could as well? I don't recall hearing about any candidate doing this...I wonder what they do with all that PAC money, since they technically can't legally spend it?

I mean, because if they could, then you'd get political hacks and con men setting up PACs just to grift idological members of the American public--and they wouldn't stand for it!
 
2012-12-14 09:06:04 AM

born_yesterday: Huh. So if Colbert can donate PAC money to charity, doesn't that mean all of the candidates could as well? I don't recall hearing about any candidate doing this...I wonder what they do with all that PAC money, since they technically can't legally spend it?


Technically the money doesn't exist.
 
2012-12-14 09:06:09 AM

ghare: oh, I dunno, I remember when a conservative would have done something like help the poor. Maybe he's just anachronistic.


Paul Ryan washes clean dishes.
 
2012-12-14 09:10:17 AM

badhatharry: Conservatives give more to charity. Colbert should have given it to the government.


No, conservatives give to religious institutions that vote for them. Just because it's deductible doesn't mean they use it for charity. They build huge opulent temples unto themselves and fly in private jets and take old people's social security checks selling them prayer hankies and a false sense of security
 
2012-12-14 09:12:24 AM

badhatharry: Conservatives give more to charity. Colbert should have given it to the government.


Making sure that Joel Osteen can buy another $5,000 suit or that the Pope can maintain his art collection is not charity.
 
2012-12-14 09:13:34 AM

born_yesterday: Huh. So if Colbert can donate PAC money to charity, doesn't that mean all of the candidates could as well? I don't recall hearing about any candidate doing this...I wonder what they do with all that PAC money, since they technically can't legally spend it?

I mean, because if they could, then you'd get political hacks and con men setting up PACs just to grift idological members of the American public--and they wouldn't stand for it!


Jon Stewart had a guest on his show who explained how PAC money could legally be channeled back into the hands of, well, anyone - including the candidate. So... there's that.
 
2012-12-14 09:15:29 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: badhatharry: Conservatives give more to charity. Colbert should have given it to the government.

Making sure that Joel Osteen can buy another $5,000 suit or that the Pope can maintain his art collection is not charity.


and don't even get me started about Mormons.inc
 
2012-12-14 09:17:04 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.


There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.
 
2012-12-14 09:20:08 AM

DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.


Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.
 
2012-12-14 09:22:14 AM

Epicedion: [blog.chron.com image 600x335]


Came here for THIS. One more:

www.thestand.org
 
2012-12-14 09:24:53 AM

badhatharry: Conservatives give more to charity. Colbert should have given it to the government.


Religion is not a real charity.
 
2012-12-14 09:25:47 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.


There is a difference between 'retain skepticism' and 'always assume the worst'.
 
2012-12-14 09:25:54 AM

Zerochance: imontheinternet: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

More likely, they'll decide the charities he picked are controlled by George Soros.

Did Soros even play a role in the election that was anything comparable to Sheldon Adelson or the Koch Bros.?


Looks like a couple million and maybe more discreetly, but nothing like Adelson.
 
2012-12-14 09:27:38 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.


You're just a fountain of what you believe to be wise-sounding platitudes, aren't you?
 
2012-12-14 09:28:36 AM

Kiinux: Nothing to see here. Liberals love giving away money that isn't their own.


ok I'll bite...

Cons love giving billions of dollars in money that isn't their own to corporations they used to run and still have financial ties to, through no bid contracts. So they can help us in an unnecessary war started by Cons based on false pretenses.

how the GOP bashing of government aid to the poor has any traction after what they did with their 8 years in the WH is a great mystery.

billions wasted on an optional war that they never cared to pay for, false pretenses for a war that killed thousands, and the cherry on top? crash the entire US economy on the way out.



hey guys? is it ok if we help the poor?

NO!!!! you wasteful Democrats will spend us to oblivion!

what a joke the GOP is.

/the Dems need to get mean with these people
 
2012-12-14 09:29:26 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.


Not a hero.
 
2012-12-14 09:31:46 AM

thurstonxhowell: Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.

You're just a fountain of what you believe to be wise-sounding platitudes, aren't you?


Sorry for interrupting the hero worship. Please continue with the adulation uninterrupted.
 
2012-12-14 09:37:43 AM
bravo! Stephen. bravo!
 
2012-12-14 09:40:40 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: thurstonxhowell: Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.

You're just a fountain of what you believe to be wise-sounding platitudes, aren't you?

Sorry for interrupting the hero worship. Please continue with the adulation uninterrupted.


maybe you aren't a regular viewer, but it was pretty obvious he wasn't going to keep the money.

He was very clear where the money went every step of the way (did the paperwork on air) and when he made it 'disappear' it was obviously part of the entire demonstration as to why these PACs are criminal. He did it very openly.

IF he were to never mention the money again, you can bet his viewers wouldn't just trust it went to charity. That said, the fact that people were willing to wait a few weeks before forming a mob over where the money went doesn't amount to hero worship.
people expected him to do something good with it and he did, after demonstrating how easy it is to game that awful system.
 
2012-12-14 09:41:18 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.


It wasn't "blind faith." It was more "faith that he will keep doing what he's done so far to show us what a horrible campaign finance system." And a little "faith that he won't destroy all of his credibility for a few hundred thousand bucks when he's got a LOT more cash than that."

He showed everyone how the system works.

Now, In an apparent final act of a nearly year-and-a-half-long gag about the influence of money in politics, Colbert said the Ham Rove Memorial Foundation, which received an anonymous donation of precisely $773,704.03 from an unnamed group with the address of "P.O. Box Bite Me," is giving $125,000 each to the Hurricane Sandy relief efforts of charities DonorsChoose.org, Team Rubicon and Habitat for Humanity, plus another $125,000 to Yellow Ribbon Fund, which supports injured military members.

Colbert, who claimed he's a board member of the Ham Rove Memorial Fund, said he wanted to direct the money to UNICEF. But the rest of the board argued that UNICEF is the name of Colbert's yacht and denied the request, Colbert acknowledged.

Another $125,000 each would go to the Center for Responsive Politics and the Campaign Legal Center, the latter that's led by former Federal Election Commission Chairman Trevor Potter, who served as legal counsel for Colbert's super PAC.


Which is fair - Potter has been instrumental in showing exactly how the system works, and how farked up it truly is.

Colbert wondered aloud why the Ham Rove Memorial Fund would donate money to a pair of groups that respectively focus their efforts on campaign finance-related transparency and reform.

"There are some strings attached," Colbert noted.

With that, he explained that the Center for Responsive Politics would be renaming its conference room the "Colbert Super PAC Memorial Conference Room" while the Campaign Legal Center would rename its meeting space the "Ham Rove Memorial Conference Room."


Again, not blind faith - just basing our refusal to judge on his past behavior.

"Just think," he said. "As the tidal wave of money continues to engulf politics, and these advocates for transparency are moaning about how powerless they are to stop it, little Ham here will be up on that wall watching the whole thing unfold with relish - and, maybe a little dijon."
 
2012-12-14 09:46:17 AM
third sentence in article:

"Colbert announced Thursday night on Comedy Central's Cobert Report that the $773,704.03 his now-defunct Americans for a Better Tomorrow Tomorrow super PAC"

that's some fine editing there, lou
 
2012-12-14 09:46:37 AM

rufus-t-firefly: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

It wasn't "blind faith." It was more "faith that he will keep doing what he's done so far to show us what a horrible campaign finance system." And a little "faith that he won't destroy all of his credibility for a few hundred thousand bucks when he's got a LOT more cash than that."

He showed everyone how the system works.

Now, In an apparent final act of a nearly year-and-a-half-long gag about the influence of money in politics, Colbert said the Ham Rove Memorial Foundation, which received an anonymous donation of precisely $773,704.03 from an unnamed group with the address of "P.O. Box Bite Me," is giving $125,000 each to the Hurricane Sandy relief efforts of charities DonorsChoose.org, Team Rubicon and Habitat for Humanity, plus another $125,000 to Yellow Ribbon Fund, which supports injured military members.

Colbert, who claimed he's a board member of the Ham Rove Memorial Fund, said he wanted to direct the money to UNICEF. But the rest of the board argued that UNICEF is the name of Colbert's yacht and denied the request, Colbert acknowledged.

Another $125,000 each would go to the Center for Responsive Politics and the Campaign Legal Center, the latter that's led by former Federal Election Commission Chairman Trevor Potter, who served as legal counsel for Colbert's super PAC.

Which is fair - Potter has been instrumental in showing exactly how the system works, and how farked up it truly is.

Colbert wondered aloud why the Ham Rove Memorial Fund would donate money to a pair of groups that respectively focus their efforts on campaign finance-related transparency and reform.

"There are some strings attached," Colbert noted.

With that, he explained that the Center for Responsive Politics ...


You weren't attacking those who judged. You were attacking those who even questioned.
 
2012-12-14 09:47:39 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: thurstonxhowell: Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.

You're just a fountain of what you believe to be wise-sounding platitudes, aren't you?

Sorry for interrupting the hero worship. Please continue with the adulation uninterrupted.


God forbid we should resist rushing to judgement and then be proven absolutely correct about his character. He's doing what nobody else has done, and has done it under the cover of satire.

I'd imagine most of us have a "bit of skepticism" about Colbert. But, since he has not yet done anything to justify that, we can't jump to negative conclusions until we see the end of this particular performance. You just couldn't wait a farking month to see the end.

We're not worshiping a hero - we're laughing at people like you. Get over yourself.
 
2012-12-14 09:47:49 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.


As soon as he does something to lose the respect he's earned, you'll have a point. He hasn't yet. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt once.
 
2012-12-14 09:48:59 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.


And assuming the worst in someone who has consistently shown character is always justified.

His actions have always been in line with what preaches (out of character). Please, show me otherwise, and I may change my opinion of him.
 
2012-12-14 09:49:05 AM

unexplained bacon: people expected him to do something good with it and he did,


i think the charity thing is great. i would still have been much happier to see donald trump get tea-bagged for one million before the money went to charity...
 
2012-12-14 09:51:14 AM

rufus-t-firefly: God forbid we should resist rushing to judgement and then be proven absolutely correct about his character. He's doing what nobody else has done, and has done it under the cover of satire.


The guy is farking amazing. It's really unbelievable. He managed to educate his entire audience about how PACs work and how insidious they are, and they were laughing while he did it.
 
2012-12-14 09:56:45 AM

divgradcurl: unexplained bacon: people expected him to do something good with it and he did,

i think the charity thing is great. i would still have been much happier to see donald trump get tea-bagged for one million before the money went to charity...


I was glad to see he gave it to charity rather than using it all to make goof commercials that would really only help media outlets anyway.

of course, you can't put a price on tea bagging Trump....something like that would help everyone.
plus the money would still have gone to the charity of Trump's choosing.
 
2012-12-14 09:58:43 AM
Somewhere in Wasilla Saint Sarah is weeping -- her PAC only launde, um, donates to REAL 'MURCAN charities like "Buy 'Going Rogue' for the Blind," "Bristol's 'Keep Them There Legs Closed, Harlot' Camp" and "Oh God, Neiman Marcus is Gonna Have My Legs Broke"
 
2012-12-14 10:04:05 AM

born_yesterday: Huh. So if Colbert can donate PAC money to charity, doesn't that mean all of the candidates could as well? I don't recall hearing about any candidate doing this...I wonder what they do with all that PAC money, since they technically can't legally spend it?

I mean, because if they could, then you'd get political hacks and con men setting up PACs just to grift idological members of the American public--and they wouldn't stand for it!


[slowclap.gif]
What you did there, I see it.
 
2012-12-14 10:07:15 AM

wxboy: As soon as he does something to lose the respect he's earned, you'll have a point. He hasn't yet. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt once.


Don't even get him started on that Ghandi asshole.
 
2012-12-14 10:09:21 AM
what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.
 
2012-12-14 10:14:01 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Somewhere in Wasilla Saint Sarah is weeping -- her PAC only launde, um, donates to REAL 'MURCAN charities like "Buy 'Going Rogue' for the Blind," "Bristol's 'Keep Them There Legs Closed, Harlot' Camp" and "Oh God, Neiman Marcus is Gonna Have My Legs Broke"


How do you make a coloring book for the blind?

Oh I don't see what you did there.
 
2012-12-14 10:14:52 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.


Did you see how much Romney donated to the Mormon Church?

And he didnt even take the full deduction!
 
2012-12-14 10:15:21 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: thurstonxhowell: Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.

You're just a fountain of what you believe to be wise-sounding platitudes, aren't you?

Sorry for interrupting the hero worship. Please continue with the adulation uninterrupted.


WTF does that even mean - "hero worship"? Is it impossible for you to admire someone that has consistently shown to be a valuable member of society, an amazingly clever and funny comedian/social commentator, and philanthropist?

Lighten up, Francis.
 
2012-12-14 10:15:27 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.


what?! conservatives give money to mooching minorities? why? doesn't that just encourage them to remain a charity case?

donations to your own church or tithe would fall into the same category as club dues.
rejigger accordingly.

yes, Colbert done a good thing.
 
2012-12-14 10:16:06 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.


hurrr.
 
2012-12-14 10:17:12 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.


How about no?
 
2012-12-14 10:17:50 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.


And they're smarter, prettier and they're all ten feet tall!! THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BELIEVE!!!!
 
2012-12-14 10:18:55 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.


Charity:
fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com

Encouraging laziness:
www.findingdulcinea.com
 
2012-12-14 10:21:32 AM

DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: thurstonxhowell: Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.

You're just a fountain of what you believe to be wise-sounding platitudes, aren't you?

Sorry for interrupting the hero worship. Please continue with the adulation uninterrupted.

WTF does that even mean - "hero worship"? Is it impossible for you to admire someone that has consistently shown to be a valuable member of society, an amazingly clever and funny comedian/social commentator, and philanthropist?

Lighten up, Francis.


If you have read this thread and don't know what "Hero Worship" means, I can't help you. I'm sure Colbert could.
 
2012-12-14 10:23:02 AM
i2.kym-cdn.com
Philip Francis Queeg
 
2012-12-14 10:23:19 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.


www.shc.edu

www.lds.net

You know, Charity.
 
2012-12-14 10:23:20 AM

Muta: rev. dave: I would like to see Rove do the same. Conservative always argue that charity is their forte. Well lets see some charitable donations in the multi-million dollar levels.

I am sure conservatives make plenty of mutli-million dollar donations. Donations like that keep the Pat Robersons of the world going.


And create garbage like this: Link
 
2012-12-14 10:32:06 AM
WOW look at all these charitable donations we got in church today!
now what would Jesus do with this money?

le'see should we help the poor?

nah, let's get a jumbotron and build a decadent palace around it for ourselves.
yay Charity!


img.photobucket.com 


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-14 10:34:34 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: thurstonxhowell: Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.

You're just a fountain of what you believe to be wise-sounding platitudes, aren't you?

Sorry for interrupting the hero worship. Please continue with the adulation uninterrupted.

WTF does that even mean - "hero worship"? Is it impossible for you to admire someone that has consistently shown to be a valuable member of society, an amazingly clever and funny comedian/social commentator, and philanthropist?

Lighten up, Francis.

If you have read this thread and don't know what "Hero Worship" means, I can't help you. I'm sure Colbert could.


I know what "Hero Worship" means. I should have been more specific and apologize for not spelling it out for you more definitively.

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HERO WORSHIP IN THIS THREAD FOR?

I will now follow up with a quote from DirkValentine (me, if that's too hard for you to follow):

Is it impossible for you to admire someone that has consistently shown to be a valuable member of society, an amazingly clever and funny comedian/social commentator, and philanthropist?
 
2012-12-14 10:42:44 AM

rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."


People really thought that? People are dumb. Even for concern trolling, that's dumb.
 
2012-12-14 10:44:14 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.


Of course they do. Why would conservatives donate liberals to charity?
 
2012-12-14 10:54:31 AM
img.photobucket.com

Ah..Big Butter Jesus. My wife is from Cincinnati, so we have some amazing shots in front of this ghastly thing.

It burned down to the ground a couple of years ago. I shiat you not, it got struck by lightning and caught fire.
 
2012-12-14 10:56:19 AM

unexplained bacon: WOW look at all these charitable donations we got in church today!
now what would Jesus do with this money?

le'see should we help the poor?

nah, let's get a jumbotron and build a decadent palace around it for ourselves.
yay Charity!


Big-Butter Jesus was smote, by God presumably.
 
2012-12-14 10:58:56 AM

Zerochance: [img.photobucket.com image 400x318]

Ah..Big Butter Jesus. My wife is from Cincinnati, so we have some amazing shots in front of this ghastly thing.

It burned down to the ground a couple of years ago. I shiat you not, it got struck by lightning and caught fire.


I honestly cannot think of a more fitting end. I bet the irony was entirely lost on the church authorities there, though.
 
2012-12-14 11:01:07 AM
Eh, I would have liked to see Colbert use that money to run actual ads. He could have made up an incredibly ridiculous ad, bought time in a small market to run the commercial a few times and no doubt it would have gotten national attention, multiplying its viewership. And at the end of his ads, it would credit Ham Rove or John Boner, or Rich (Loving) McConnell or something. Basically with the idea if you don't like these sorts of really stupid ads from ridiculously named entities, maybe the SuperPACs aren't a good idea.
 
2012-12-14 11:09:15 AM

Alphax: Lots of funny in that article.


Yes there is... I particularly liked the part about him wanting to give the money to UNICEF.
 
2012-12-14 11:10:15 AM

Kiinux: Nothing to see here. Liberals love giving away money that isn't their own.


And where is the $300 Million that Karl Rove received? Has he returned it all at this point?

Yeah, I didn't think so.
 
2012-12-14 11:13:32 AM

qorkfiend: Zerochance: [img.photobucket.com image 400x318]
It burned down to the ground a couple of years ago. I shiat you not, it got struck by lightning and caught fire.

I honestly cannot think of a more fitting end. I bet the irony was entirely lost on the church authorities there, though.



You guys talk like the Devil couldn't shoot lightning bolts out his ass, if he wanted to.
 
2012-12-14 11:14:17 AM

born_yesterday: Huh. So if Colbert can donate PAC money to charity, doesn't that mean all of the candidates could as well? I don't recall hearing about any candidate doing this...I wonder what they do with all that PAC money, since they technically can't legally spend it?

I mean, because if they could, then you'd get political hacks and con men setting up PACs just to grift idological members of the American public--and they wouldn't stand for it!


If I understood it correctly, they can set up a blind SuperPac, then transfer the money to that one, and then give it to whomever the fark they want to. Colbert had someone on covering this in detail a few days after the election, it's what he did here, but he donated it instead of spending it. Legally though, he could have given it to himself directly from the second SuperPac.
 
2012-12-14 11:15:22 AM

Rich Cream: qorkfiend: Zerochance: [img.photobucket.com image 400x318]
It burned down to the ground a couple of years ago. I shiat you not, it got struck by lightning and caught fire.

I honestly cannot think of a more fitting end. I bet the irony was entirely lost on the church authorities there, though.


You guys talk like the Devil couldn't shoot lightning bolts out his ass, if he wanted to.


I think the Devil would be perfectly fine with such an ostentatious display of money.
 
2012-12-14 11:19:09 AM

Kiinux: Nothing to see here. Liberals love giving away money that isn't their own.


8/10
 
2012-12-14 11:19:41 AM

qorkfiend: Rich Cream: qorkfiend: Zerochance: [img.photobucket.com image 400x318]
It burned down to the ground a couple of years ago. I shiat you not, it got struck by lightning and caught fire.

I honestly cannot think of a more fitting end. I bet the irony was entirely lost on the church authorities there, though.


You guys talk like the Devil couldn't shoot lightning bolts out his ass, if he wanted to.

I think the Devil would be perfectly fine with such an ostentatious display of money.



Maybe Satan was trying to get them to build a bigger one?
 
2012-12-14 11:20:26 AM

Rich Cream: qorkfiend: Rich Cream: qorkfiend: Zerochance: [img.photobucket.com image 400x318]
It burned down to the ground a couple of years ago. I shiat you not, it got struck by lightning and caught fire.

I honestly cannot think of a more fitting end. I bet the irony was entirely lost on the church authorities there, though.


You guys talk like the Devil couldn't shoot lightning bolts out his ass, if he wanted to.

I think the Devil would be perfectly fine with such an ostentatious display of money.


Maybe Satan was trying to get them to build a bigger one?


Nah, then he would have just kept the money coming.
 
2012-12-14 11:21:04 AM

Zerochance: [img.photobucket.com image 400x318]

Ah..Big Butter Jesus. My wife is from Cincinnati, so we have some amazing shots in front of this ghastly thing.

It burned down to the ground a couple of years ago. I shiat you not, it got struck by lightning and caught fire.


That is funny.
 
2012-12-14 11:24:21 AM

qorkfiend: Rich Cream: qorkfiend: Zerochance: [img.photobucket.com image 400x318]
It burned down to the ground a couple of years ago. I shiat you not, it got struck by lightning and caught fire.

I honestly cannot think of a more fitting end. I bet the irony was entirely lost on the church authorities there, though.


You guys talk like the Devil couldn't shoot lightning bolts out his ass, if he wanted to.

I think the Devil would be perfectly fine with such an ostentatious display of money.


I think Bartholomew the patron saint of plasterers had a problem with it because they used scab labor so he had it "taken care of" by the union bosses up stairs.
 
2012-12-14 11:24:44 AM

mrshowrules: tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.

Charity:
[fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com image 500x376]

Encouraging laziness:
[www.findingdulcinea.com image 456x275]


Just to keep things clear, the LDS charities are huge. The temples are ornate, but there is really also plenty of money going to true charity. I know, I know, we want to hate on the Mo's whenever possible, but this is one where people are wrong. Growing up around them, and then coming back to Utah 6 years ago, I've seen them help out plenty, and it's not just to church members, like people try and claim also.
 
2012-12-14 11:28:22 AM
Charity being a stripper, right?
 
2012-12-14 11:29:04 AM

mrshowrules: tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.

Charity:
[fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com image 500x376]

Encouraging laziness:
[www.findingdulcinea.com image 456x275]


What makes that funny is that both of those are religious institutions, funded by conservatives generally speaking, with the bottom one even richer than the top.
 
2012-12-14 11:29:08 AM

DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: thurstonxhowell: Philip Francis Queeg: DirkValentine: Philip Francis Queeg: rufus-t-firefly: All the concern trolls who were "worried" about him keeping the money for himself may now step up and say "Everyone else was right - I should have just waited a few weeks like they said."

Blind faith in celebrities is always justified.

There is nothing blind about my faith in Colbert. He has, repeatedly, shown integrity and lived up to everything he's talked shiat about.

So STFU and GBTW.

Always retain a bit of skepticism about your heroes.

You're just a fountain of what you believe to be wise-sounding platitudes, aren't you?

Sorry for interrupting the hero worship. Please continue with the adulation uninterrupted.

WTF does that even mean - "hero worship"? Is it impossible for you to admire someone that has consistently shown to be a valuable member of society, an amazingly clever and funny comedian/social commentator, and philanthropist?

Lighten up, Francis.

If you have read this thread and don't know what "Hero Worship" means, I can't help you. I'm sure Colbert could.

I know what "Hero Worship" means. I should have been more specific and apologize for not spelling it out for you more definitively.

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HERO WORSHIP IN THIS THREAD FOR?

I will now follow up with a quote from DirkValentine (me, if that's too hard for you to follow):

Is it impossible for you to admire someone that has consistently shown to be a valuable member of society, an amazingly clever and funny comedian/social commentator, and philanthropist?


It's a very convenient position to be "concerned". You are never wrong. If what you were concerned about happens, you are a genius. If you were wrong, it's still OK because everything should be looked upon with scrutiny or else you are a gullible fool.

Except Jesus of course, just have faith.
 
2012-12-14 11:30:30 AM

heavymetal: Muta: rev. dave: I would like to see Rove do the same. Conservative always argue that charity is their forte. Well lets see some charitable donations in the multi-million dollar levels.

I am sure conservatives make plenty of mutli-million dollar donations. Donations like that keep the Pat Robersons of the world going.

And create garbage like this: Link


Are Lewis and Clark holding hands in that picture?
 
2012-12-14 11:33:03 AM

Zerochance: [img.photobucket.com image 400x318]

Ah..Big Butter Jesus. My wife is from Cincinnati, so we have some amazing shots in front of this ghastly thing.

It burned down to the ground a couple of years ago. I shiat you not, it got struck by lightning and caught fire.


Yeah, I remember reading about it when it happened. Those pics are pretty epic. This is the first decent shot I've seen of the thing. The lighting and the clear reflection in the lake are actually rather nice.

The thing is still freaky though.
 
2012-12-14 11:35:02 AM
It would be interesting to see what the result would be if churches had to report their administrative and other costs like charities do for the CFC.
 
2012-12-14 11:35:32 AM

Epicedion: born_yesterday: Huh. So if Colbert can donate PAC money to charity, doesn't that mean all of the candidates could as well? I don't recall hearing about any candidate doing this...I wonder what they do with all that PAC money, since they technically can't legally spend it?

Technically the money doesn't exist.


Technically ALL money doesn't exist.

/money defies the conservation of energy rules!
//except by burning it.
 
2012-12-14 11:36:52 AM

qorkfiend: Maybe Satan was trying to get them to build a bigger one?

Nah, then he would have just kept the money coming.



Beelzebub urged them to build it so he could burn it down and crush their spirit! 

/entrapment. why not?
 
2012-12-14 11:42:28 AM

Zerochance: [img.photobucket.com image 400x318]

Ah..Big Butter Jesus. My wife is from Cincinnati, so we have some amazing shots in front of this ghastly thing.

It burned down to the ground a couple of years ago. I shiat you not, it got struck by lightning and caught fire.


What Would Zeus Do?
 
2012-12-14 11:45:02 AM

Mikey1969: mrshowrules: tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.

Charity:
[fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com image 500x376]

Encouraging laziness:
[www.findingdulcinea.com image 456x275]

Just to keep things clear, the LDS charities are huge. The temples are ornate, but there is really also plenty of money going to true charity. I know, I know, we want to hate on the Mo's whenever possible, but this is one where people are wrong. Growing up around them, and then coming back to Utah 6 years ago, I've seen them help out plenty, and it's not just to church members, like people try and claim also.


Do they help the poor before or after they skim the charitable donations for cash to build obscene palaces?

If I con people out of a thousand dollars what percentage would I have to use to help starving babies to make it ok for me to keep the rest for myself?
 
2012-12-14 11:50:17 AM

Zerochance: [img.photobucket.com image 400x318]

Ah..Big Butter Jesus. My wife is from Cincinnati, so we have some amazing shots in front of this ghastly thing.

It burned down to the ground a couple of years ago. I shiat you not, it got struck by lightning and caught fire.


They had the technology, they can build it smarter, faster, derpier.

So it replaced with a standing statue, no touchdown anymore, and has a lightning rod spike coming out of the top of its head. You know, rather than feed the hungry or clothe the poor.
 
2012-12-14 11:56:54 AM

FreudulentSplit: rather than feed the hungry or clothe the poor.


They created jobs.
 
2012-12-14 12:03:12 PM
I should say there really are churches who go above and beyond for the poor. They worship in modest buildings, donate money and time to helping those less fortunate and ask for nothing in return. I've seen them, they do exist but they barely make a peep. Good people.
Using donations to surround yourself with luxury first and everything else second isn't very charitable at all. My interpretation of the new testament leads me to think these church palaces are contradictions. Maybe it's just me.
 
2012-12-14 12:12:23 PM

ghare: oh, I dunno, I remember when a conservatNateGrey: tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.

Did you see how much Romney donated to the Mormon Church?

And he didn't even take the full deduction!

To play devil's advocate, the Mormon church has a lot of flaws but one thing they are good at is taking care of those in need, so long as those in need subscribe to their crazy. I grew up around a Mormon family that hit some pretty hard times when tdad, the sole breadwinner, had the double whammy of cancer and treatment for cancer that made him unable to work. According to him the fact that he was a Mormon who was in good standing (meaning he tithed 10%) the church was there to help him out. Apparently the church was there to make up the gap on the bills they couldn't pay until he was able to go back to work and start tithing again. I know this story is anecdotal but according to them this is SOP for the church, if you are in good standing.

I lean left and loathe the current GoP but I think it is a pretty valid point that both the left and the right, in general, want to help the needy they just differ in their delivery. The right want private charity to do it and the left wants government to do it.

/flame away fark progressives

 
2012-12-14 12:13:09 PM

jst3p: ghare: oh, I dunno, I remember when a conservatNateGrey: tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.

Did you see how much Romney donated to the Mormon Church?

And he didn't even take the full deduction!


To play devil's advocate, the Mormon church has a lot of flaws but one thing they are good at is taking care of those in need, so long as those in need subscribe to their crazy. I grew up around a Mormon family that hit some pretty hard times when tdad, the sole breadwinner, had the double whammy of cancer and treatment for cancer that made him unable to work. According to him the fact that he was a Mormon who was in good standing (meaning he tithed 10%) the church was there to help him out. Apparently the church was there to make up the gap on the bills they couldn't pay until he was able to go back to work and start tithing again. I know this story is anecdotal but according to them this is SOP for the church, if you are in good standing.

I lean left and loathe the current GoP but I think it is a pretty valid point that both the left and the right, in general, want to help the needy they just differ in their delivery. The right want private charity to do it and the left wants government to do it.

/flame away fark progressives

Now with less broken HTML!
 
2012-12-14 12:18:22 PM

jst3p: jst3p: ghare: oh, I dunno, I remember when a conservatNateGrey: tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.

Did you see how much Romney donated to the Mormon Church?

And he didn't even take the full deduction!

To play devil's advocate, the Mormon church has a lot of flaws but one thing they are good at is taking care of those in need, so long as those in need subscribe to their crazy. I grew up around a Mormon family that hit some pretty hard times when tdad, the sole breadwinner, had the double whammy of cancer and treatment for cancer that made him unable to work. According to him the fact that he was a Mormon who was in good standing (meaning he tithed 10%) the church was there to help him out. Apparently the church was there to make up the gap on the bills they couldn't pay until he was able to go back to work and start tithing again. I know this story is anecdotal but according to them this is SOP for the church, if you are in good standing.

I lean left and loathe the current GoP but I think it is a pretty valid point that both the left and the right, in general, want to help the needy they just differ in their delivery. The right want private charity to do it and the left wants government to do it.

/flame away fark progressives

Now with less broken HTML!


Isn't this just the church version of mandatory insurance coverage? If you have to be in good "standing" how is it charity and not just getting what you pay for?
 
2012-12-14 12:19:49 PM

buck1138: jst3p: jst3p: ghare: oh, I dunno, I remember when a conservatNateGrey: tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.

Did you see how much Romney donated to the Mormon Church?

And he didn't even take the full deduction!

To play devil's advocate, the Mormon church has a lot of flaws but one thing they are good at is taking care of those in need, so long as those in need subscribe to their crazy. I grew up around a Mormon family that hit some pretty hard times when tdad, the sole breadwinner, had the double whammy of cancer and treatment for cancer that made him unable to work. According to him the fact that he was a Mormon who was in good standing (meaning he tithed 10%) the church was there to help him out. Apparently the church was there to make up the gap on the bills they couldn't pay until he was able to go back to work and start tithing again. I know this story is anecdotal but according to them this is SOP for the church, if you are in good standing.

I lean left and loathe the current GoP but I think it is a pretty valid point that both the left and the right, in general, want to help the needy they just differ in their delivery. The right want private charity to do it and the left wants government to do it.

/flame away fark progressives

Now with less broken HTML!

Isn't this just the church version of mandatory insurance coverage? If you have to be in good "standing" how is it charity and not just getting what you pay for?


That is kinda my point, six of one half a dozen of the other.
 
2012-12-14 12:31:08 PM
 
2012-12-14 12:36:59 PM

NateGrey: jst3p:

That sounds so sweet, Anecdotal evidence is a kind of evidence, a couple hundred here to pay some bills, 25 million tax free dollars there to fund anti Prop 8 measures.

They are upstanding citizens though, sometimes:

Facing this investigation, which was going to show the church had lied, the Mormon leadership decided to file a new, updated report which admitted they had filed misleading financial reports before.


Meh, pick any large group of people and you will find cheats and liars. Mormons do some farked up shiat, we all do.
 
2012-12-14 12:40:50 PM

jst3p: NateGrey: jst3p:

That sounds so sweet, Anecdotal evidence is a kind of evidence, a couple hundred here to pay some bills, 25 million tax free dollars there to fund anti Prop 8 measures.

They are upstanding citizens though, sometimes:

Facing this investigation, which was going to show the church had lied, the Mormon leadership decided to file a new, updated report which admitted they had filed misleading financial reports before.

Meh, pick any large group of people and you will find cheats and liars. Mormons do some farked up shiat, we all do.


Well that's true but the point is that a church member giving money to their church isn't necessarily charity.
More like membership dues
 
2012-12-14 12:47:36 PM

unexplained bacon: Well that's true but the point is that a church member giving money to their church isn't necessarily charity.
More like membership dues


OK, whatever works for them.
 
2012-12-14 01:04:23 PM

Zerochance: Big Butter Jesus


Isn't that a Screaming Blue Messiahs song?
 
2012-12-14 01:05:47 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Somewhere in Wasilla Saint Sarah is weeping -- her PAC only launde, um, donates to REAL 'MURCAN charities like "Buy 'Going Rogue' for the Blind," "Bristol's 'Keep Them There Legs Closed, Harlot' Camp" and "Oh God, Neiman Marcus is Gonna Have My Legs Broke"


Boy, you carry a whole lot of hate with you. You should really see a therapist before you do something to harm yourself
 
2012-12-14 01:10:32 PM

buffalosoldier: mrshowrules: tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.

Charity:
[fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com image 500x376]

Encouraging laziness:
[www.findingdulcinea.com image 456x275]

What makes that funny is that both of those are religious institutions, funded by conservatives generally speaking, with the bottom one even richer than the top.


So the bottom one is richer than the Mormon Church?
 
2012-12-14 01:13:16 PM

Mikey1969: mrshowrules: tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.

Charity:
[fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com image 500x376]

Encouraging laziness:
[www.findingdulcinea.com image 456x275]

Just to keep things clear, the LDS charities are huge. The temples are ornate, but there is really also plenty of money going to true charity. I know, I know, we want to hate on the Mo's whenever possible, but this is one where people are wrong. Growing up around them, and then coming back to Utah 6 years ago, I've seen them help out plenty, and it's not just to church members, like people try and claim also.


What percentage of the Mormon churches (or any Church's) revenue is used for actual charity? McDonald's spends a fortune on important charities so I should be able to donate to them and right it off?
 
2012-12-14 01:19:20 PM

Kiinux: Nothing to see here. Liberals love giving away money that isn't their own.


So he should have kept the money instead of giving it away?
 
2012-12-14 01:33:33 PM

mrshowrules: What percentage of the Mormon churches (or any Church's) revenue is used for actual charity? McDonald's spends a fortune on important charities so I should be able to donate to them and right it off?


I don't know, but what I do know is that there are very large warehouses here in SLC, farms, and full industrial sized granaries dedicated to nothing but LDS charities. I've always wondered what percentage, but my point is that this isn't small token contributions by the Church, it's very big. There's a lot of shiat about the Mormons that pisses me off, but I always think this os one thing where they get unfairly ripped on.
 
2012-12-14 01:47:32 PM

Mikey1969: mrshowrules: tenpoundsofcheese: what do you mean?
Conservatives donate a lot more of their income to charity than liberals.

Nice job Colbert.

Charity:
[fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com image 500x376]

Encouraging laziness:
[www.findingdulcinea.com image 456x275]

Just to keep things clear, the LDS charities are huge. The temples are ornate, but there is really also plenty of money going to true charity. I know, I know, we want to hate on the Mo's whenever possible, but this is one where people are wrong. Growing up around them, and then coming back to Utah 6 years ago, I've seen them help out plenty, and it's not just to church members, like people try and claim also.


This. Even after I got excommunicated, the stake still carried on with my grocery delivery (there is no canned chili better than Deseret brand). The may have some farked up ideas (though I think I might no longer have been excommunicated for the same reason) but from what I experienced, that tithing gets used in some very important charity work.

Anyone else remember the 'Ralphie' kid in those commercials? It really isn't far off.
 
2012-12-14 01:59:03 PM

Kiinux: Nothing to see here. Liberals love giving away money that isn't their own.


Super-PACs, how do they work?

/You might want to try watching a few of the episodes where Colbert explains that...
 
2012-12-14 02:28:07 PM

llachlan: This. Even after I got excommunicated, the stake still carried on with my grocery delivery (there is no canned chili better than Deseret brand). The may have some farked up ideas (though I think I might no longer have been excommunicated for the same reason) but from what I experienced, that tithing gets used in some very important charity work.

Anyone else remember the 'Ralphie' kid in those commercials? It really isn't far off.


I don't think they realize how much damage they do to their image by being so tight lipped about their finances, especially the charities. I think it would be a great PR move on their part.
 
2012-12-14 02:33:03 PM

jst3p: unexplained bacon: Well that's true but the point is that a church member giving money to their church isn't necessarily charity.
More like membership dues

OK, whatever works for them.


Right, good for them

Just dont try to convince me giving to your church is the same as giving to a charity.
 
2012-12-14 02:55:37 PM

unexplained bacon: jst3p: unexplained bacon: Well that's true but the point is that a church member giving money to their church isn't necessarily charity.
More like membership dues

OK, whatever works for them.

Right, good for them

Just dont try to convince me giving to your church is the same as giving to a charity.


Depends on the "charity".

Link

10% of a donation made to the Red Cross makes it to victims of tragedy.
 
2012-12-14 03:02:06 PM

jst3p: NateGrey: jst3p:

That sounds so sweet, Anecdotal evidence is a kind of evidence, a couple hundred here to pay some bills, 25 million tax free dollars there to fund anti Prop 8 measures.

They are upstanding citizens though, sometimes:

Facing this investigation, which was going to show the church had lied, the Mormon leadership decided to file a new, updated report which admitted they had filed misleading financial reports before.

Meh, pick any large group of people and you will find cheats and liars. Mormons do some farked up shiat, we all do.


lol Mormon leadership = meh some cheats and liars.

Your little story was so laughable, try educating yourself on Mormonism.
 
2012-12-14 03:13:49 PM

NateGrey: Your little story was so laughable, try educating yourself on Mormonism.


I know quite a bit about the history of the Mormons and it is pretty despicable. On a smaller local scale they tend to take care of their own. That's all I am saying. I don't hold any more or less contempt for them than I do any other large religion. I might be willing to cut the Jews some slack, but they have plenty of dirty laundry too.
 
2012-12-14 04:14:54 PM

jst3p: Depends on the "charity".

Link

10% of a donation made to the Red Cross makes it to victims of tragedy.


An article on Yahoo! news, written by some random contributor, that doesn't link to its source? That's the opposite of a citation. I now doubt your idea more than I otherwise would have because you provided that link.
 
2012-12-15 08:30:08 AM

Mikey1969: heavymetal: Muta: rev. dave: I would like to see Rove do the same. Conservative always argue that charity is their forte. Well lets see some charitable donations in the multi-million dollar levels.

I am sure conservatives make plenty of mutli-million dollar donations. Donations like that keep the Pat Robersons of the world going.

And create garbage like this: Link

Are Lewis and Clark holding hands in that picture?


See, I knew it was propoganda! They are portraying Lewis and Clark as "family values conservatives".
 
2012-12-16 11:11:20 PM
a canned ham that vaguely resembled Republican political strategist Karl Rove.



Vaguely? Heh..
 
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