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2012-12-14 04:49:41 AM  
46 slides? No

Slide shows are bad enough, but when the whole page has to reload your just like WTF.
 
2012-12-14 05:28:32 AM  
Full screen refresh... Holy Fark
 
2012-12-14 06:31:54 AM  
Ya know, they could put up an "alcohol: before and after" web page that is just as horrifying.
 
2012-12-14 06:37:55 AM  

DrPainMD: Ya know, they could put up an "alcohol: before and after" web page that is just as horrifying.


Life: before and after
 
2012-12-14 08:23:50 AM  

DrPainMD: he


The results might be the same, but the timeline would be different. Some of those pics are 3-4 years apart. It would take 20 years of heavy drinking to accomplish that level of aging.
 
2012-12-14 08:26:04 AM  
subby must be new here. i've seen #21 appear in many threads.

two things

1) didn't know she was an 'after meth' photo
2) she was smoking hot before. such a shame.
 
2012-12-14 08:27:05 AM  

SlothB77: 2) she was smoking hot before. such a shame


well, not smoking hot, but, so much potential squandered.
 
2012-12-14 08:27:56 AM  

CPT Ethanolic: DrPainMD: he

The results might be the same, but the timeline would be different. Some of those pics are 3-4 years apart. It would take 20 years of heavy drinking to accomplish that level of aging.


A couple are in the 6 month range. Holy crap (!)
Don't try this at home kids.
 
2012-12-14 08:28:25 AM  
these photos have been seen before. I think the DailyMail ran these photos again some time last week and now every site is picking them up (again).

for the record.

#21 is the effects of a meth lab explosion.
 
2012-12-14 09:20:48 AM  

This is a late parrot: 46 slides? No

Slide shows are bad enough, but when the whole page has to reload your just like WTF.


Deslided

Holy hell Heather aged 30! I had no idea meth could make you melt!
 
2012-12-14 09:27:39 AM  
You'd have to be on meth to want to sit there and click that crap 50 times. Is this some kind of test, slidemitter?

I still remain convinced it is more the "not sleeping for weeks at a time" that does this, rather than the drug itself, though filtering battery acid residue can't be that healthy.
 
#2 [TotalFark]
2012-12-14 09:31:59 AM  
#2 on the slideshow, that is not me....

/ Don't look at me like that!
imageshack.us
 
2012-12-14 10:08:05 AM  
At least they're skinny now.
 
2012-12-14 10:34:02 AM  
Meth looks like fun, doesn't it kids?

DrPainMD: Ya know, they could put up an "alcohol: before and after" web page that is just as horrifying.


Having known more than my fair share of alcoholics, they don't get that bad as quickly. Nonetheless, they should be showing these types of pics to kids starting in 5th and 6th grade.
 
2012-12-14 10:39:28 AM  
i.i.com.com

"Bring me Solo and the Wookiee. They will all suffer for this outrage."
 
2012-12-14 10:43:26 AM  
I refuse to believe that #22 and #23 are the same person. She's too hot.

And 35 is a lie. Black people don't do meth.
 
2012-12-14 10:53:19 AM  
Those are burn scars.
 
2012-12-14 10:56:18 AM  

calbert: #21 is the effects of a meth lab explosion.


Yeah, there it is

I think 8/9 and43/44 are probably the worst
 
2012-12-14 10:58:16 AM  

This is a late parrot: 46 slides? No

Slide shows are bad enough, but when the whole page has to reload your just like WTF.



The irony of the whole thing is that 46 slides is a cakewalk ON METH.
 
2012-12-14 11:11:32 AM  
8/9, 10/11, 14/15, 26/27, & 33/34 are the worst examples. All of those pictures are just 3 years apart and the difference is startling.
 
2012-12-14 11:29:45 AM  

brigid_fitch: 8/9, 10/11, 14/15, 26/27, & 33/34 are the worst examples. All of those pictures are just 3 years apart and the difference is startling.


I gotta throw 35/36 on that. He starts off (age 36) looking older than he is, but could pass for early 40s. Three years later he looks like he's 70.
 
2012-12-14 12:01:48 PM  

bdub77: [i.i.com.com image 465x317]

"Bring me Solo and the Wookiee. They will all suffer for this outrage."


I hate you for making me laugh.
 
2012-12-14 12:02:16 PM  
How many times am I going to see this same played out slideshow? It's been passed through the interwebs for over a month ... the exact same collection.

Why is posting slideshows not a bannable offense?

As far as the Wookie goes, she's a burn victim from a meth lab explosion.
 
2012-12-14 12:02:39 PM  
i.i.com.comi.i.com.com

So the person in charge of lighting was on meth?

/the burned girl is grafts, likely from her thighs and buttocks. I think a meth lab blew up in her face.
//I suppose that could be attributed to "meth use"
 
2012-12-14 12:03:04 PM  
Yeah, those are burn scars.

/Don't do meth.
 
2012-12-14 12:03:12 PM  
Jesus christ. I was expecting that same old faces of meth, but these are all ones i've never seen. The young people make me pretty sad. Just wasted lives.

Yes, show this shiat to 10 year olds.
 
2012-12-14 12:03:19 PM  

BKITU: brigid_fitch: 8/9, 10/11, 14/15, 26/27, & 33/34 are the worst examples. All of those pictures are just 3 years apart and the difference is startling.

I gotta throw 35/36 on that. He starts off (age 36) looking older than he is, but could pass for early 40s. Three years later he looks like he's 70.


2/3 did it for me.
 
2012-12-14 12:04:56 PM  

Rich Cream: [i.i.com.com image 372x465][i.i.com.com image 372x465]

So the person in charge of lighting was on meth?

/the burned girl is grafts, likely from her thighs and buttocks. I think a meth lab blew up in her face.
//I suppose that could be attributed to "meth use"


Yeah but the next one was her too. She's the only one that got three pics for some reason.
 
2012-12-14 12:05:03 PM  
I'm pretty impresses with #22.

"Most people emerge from meth binges terribly undernourished. I want to congratulate you on beating the odds and somehow managing to pack on a few pounds."
 
2012-12-14 12:05:05 PM  
Wow, just wow...
 
2012-12-14 12:05:09 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: DrPainMD: he

The results might be the same, but the timeline would be different. Some of those pics are 3-4 years apart. It would take 20 years of heavy drinking to accomplish that level of aging.


I've been lucky that my heavy drinking hasn't aged me (family has good skin, I guess). But it's time to stop. A man can only drink a 10 cocktails a day for so long before his liver stops returning his phone calls.

The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.

But holy fark - at least I'm not hooked on meth. I've watched several alcoholics ruin their lives, but none were anything like the methheads I've known.
 
2012-12-14 12:05:24 PM  
Can't they put the before and after pics side-by-side at least?
 
2012-12-14 12:05:27 PM  
Is it sad that all I'm thinking about as I go through these slides is "Can't wait for Breaking Bad next year"?
 
2012-12-14 12:05:58 PM  
Which Toxic Avenger sequel was that?
 
2012-12-14 12:06:22 PM  
www.heromachine.com
 
2012-12-14 12:06:38 PM  
i.i.com.com

www.voiceofcrazy.com
 
2012-12-14 12:07:27 PM  
#21 was from an explosion in a meth lab. She actually looked worse before the plastic surgery (showed up in r/wtf before).

/that's why I just drink a lot
 
2012-12-14 12:08:06 PM  
Meth is chlorine for the gene pool, isn't it?
 
2012-12-14 12:11:03 PM  
Here's a deslided version that matches the original numbering:
Link 

/subby
//first greenlight in 7 years of subbying!
 
2012-12-14 12:11:24 PM  
Faces of meth, before and after?

[before.jpg]

any kind of tragedy befalls person whether related to meth or no

horribly-lit, change into bad clothes, make the hair bad

[after.jpg]

This is the reverse of all those stupid infomercials on TV where I say, "gosh, that product is so awsome it even gives you a better shirt, stylist, make-up, and ear-rings!"

Meth is bad, but overplaying it through deception is hurtful to the cause, just look at all the OMG shenanigans the climate change people have done. It's like crying wolf.
 
2012-12-14 12:11:39 PM  
i.i.com.com


scm-l3.technorati.com
 
2012-12-14 12:12:53 PM  

reezle: I'm pretty impresses with #22.

"Most people emerge from meth binges terribly undernourished. I want to congratulate you on beating the odds and somehow managing to pack on a few pounds."


Came here for this.

/"You so fat you *gain* weight on meth."
 
2012-12-14 12:12:59 PM  
i.i.com.com

I am the god of hellfire!
 
2012-12-14 12:13:00 PM  
Here's the progression:

www.disclosurenewsonline.com
 
2012-12-14 12:13:25 PM  
That's why I only smoke the blue stuff.
 
2012-12-14 12:13:49 PM  
i.i.com.com

Michael Jackson's corpse?
 
2012-12-14 12:15:47 PM  

DrPainMD: Ya know, they could put up an "alcohol: before and after" web page that is just as horrifying.


No, they really couldn't. You should ask for a refund on that GED in medicine.
 
2012-12-14 12:16:05 PM  

DrPainMD: Ya know, they could put up an "alcohol: before and after" web page that is just as horrifying.


If you love meth so much, why don't you marry it?
 
2012-12-14 12:17:12 PM  

scottydoesntknow:
Deslided


I knew there was a guy who did this but I couldn't remember your handle. Thanks, mate. Much obliged.

scottydoesknow (how to deslidify) farkied
 
2012-12-14 12:19:41 PM  
#29, Chris Penn
 
2012-12-14 12:20:42 PM  

Rich Cream: //I suppose that could be attributed to "meth use"

Unless you're farked up on the stuff, you don't get into cooking it as a job. So yes, she was hooked on meth, and decided that cooking it was a great way to support her habit. Then her face got all melty.
 
2012-12-14 12:21:31 PM  
imageshack.us
 
2012-12-14 12:22:07 PM  

bdub77: [i.i.com.com image 465x317]

"Bring me Solo and the Wookiee. They will all suffer for this outrage."


Close, but I was thinking

farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2012-12-14 12:22:10 PM  
Dammit, Forbidden Doughnut got there first...
 
2012-12-14 12:22:11 PM  

Carn: Yeah but the next one was her too. She's the only one that got three pics for some reason.


Oh. Never mind then.
 
2012-12-14 12:23:28 PM  

bugcrusher: Rich Cream: //I suppose that could be attributed to "meth use"
Unless you're farked up on the stuff, you don't get into cooking it as a job. So yes, she was hooked on meth, and decided that cooking it was a great way to support her habit. Then her face got all melty.


It's a bit disingenuous to say her using meth destroyed her physically when actually it was fire. Double-especially when the whole article is about how the chemical affects the body.
 
2012-12-14 12:25:03 PM  
Most of them look like they just walked off the set of The Walking Dead
 
2012-12-14 12:26:01 PM  
Food, before and after.
Holy Fark!

thesocietypages.org

scandalvideo.org

cdn2.mamapop.com
 
2012-12-14 12:27:52 PM  

dickfreckle: The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.


Good luck to you. Hey, are you sober in the morning when you wake up? Stay sober most of the day, or at least until 2 pm or so? You're detoxed. if you're talking about the other dependency, the one that makes you start drinking every day, that's the harder one.....

/I didn't go to rehab because I needed to be detoxed. I went to rehab because I couldn't sober up long enough to check in.
 
2012-12-14 12:27:57 PM  

This is a late parrot: scottydoesntknow:
Deslided


I knew there was a guy who did this but I couldn't remember your handle. Thanks, mate. Much obliged.

scottydoesknow (how to deslidify) farkied


*tips hat*

Don't know if FARK has a policy against linking main headlines to deslided versions (cause it could deny traffic to the actual sites maybe?), they never get greenlit for some reason
 
2012-12-14 12:29:26 PM  

dickfreckle: as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care.


Good luck to you.
 
2012-12-14 12:29:39 PM  
When I was a kid I used to watch a TV special called "Cartoon All Stars To The Rescue". It's from about 1990, and starred characters from like a dozen popular cartoon franchises. Muppet Babies, Garfield, TMNT, the Smurfs, etc.

But it was also a preachy anti-drug PSA in which the characters basically torment a guy because he smokes pot and is thinking of moving on to harder stuff. I mostly watched it because it was cool to see so many characters, and because my local video store let you borrow PSAs for free.

At one point they show the guy looking like a literal zombie in a funhouse mirror, and tell him that's what will happen if he keeps using drugs. Even as a kid I knew to call BS on this, it was quite obviously a case of the "scare 'em straight even if you have to lie" tactics that were popular at the time.

But every time I see one of these Before/After meth galleries, all I can think is "Holy shiat! Slimer and Papa Smurf were right! They totally saw meth coming!"

/My csb
//(singing) There's a million billion wonderful ways to say no
 
2012-12-14 12:30:18 PM  

DrPainMD: Ya know, they could put up an "alcohol: before and after" web page that is just as horrifying.


Holy crap, how many of you can understand DrPainMD's simple beer goggles joke?
 
2012-12-14 12:32:04 PM  

DirkTheDaring: Most of them look like they just walked off the set of The Walking Dead


Mainly because they are walking dead?

/don't do Meth...sure joke if you want, but don't do it even once...no need for further snark or "you just don't understand..."
 
2012-12-14 12:33:21 PM  
i.i.com.com

laughingsquid.com
 
2012-12-14 12:34:23 PM  

hdhale: DirkTheDaring: Most of them look like they just walked off the set of The Walking Dead

Mainly because they are walking dead?

/don't do Meth...sure joke if you want, but don't do it even once...no need for further snark or "you just don't understand..."


Don't tell me how to live my life! My body, my choice!
 
2012-12-14 12:35:18 PM  
phedex : Jesus christ. I was expecting that same old faces of meth, but these are all ones i've never seen. The young people make me pretty sad. Just wasted lives.

Yes, show this shiat to 10 year olds.


OR just have them spend a couple nightshifts with me at my backup #2 job. Put the behaviors with the attitudes at 3am when the booze wears off and they need a sugar fix to go with the meth. I never used to think that even recreational use of meth would so completely wreck one's looks, not to mention fry their brain in 5 years or less. This slide show is what I see daily. Honestly if this thread stays around thru the weekend, I'll put up my own faces of meth. It's goddam scary. And I see these people around town bumming for change which is irritating as a lot of them are on public assistance and between the cash and food sides of their aid, they pull in $700-1100 a month, which usually goes to alcohol, smokes and lottery tickets. How do I know? I run the EBT card batches and the machines print their balances on the reports.

More sad? I see women I knew (or used to) that are a good 8-10 years younger than me (I'm 42) that look my mother's age. I"ve seen their IDs when they were smoking hot just a few years back. Now? Goddamn brides of Frankenstein.

If they only gave up the meth and booze for weed, so much of their life (or what's left) could be saved.

/smokes nothing at all
//voted for CA Prop. 19
 
2012-12-14 12:36:16 PM  

dickfreckle: The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.


Wow, congrats man. Wishing you the very best.
 
2012-12-14 12:36:20 PM  
She looks like a retarded blowup doll.
 
2012-12-14 12:36:33 PM  
That's called burn grafting, subby.
 
2012-12-14 12:37:01 PM  

relcec: Food, before and after.
Holy Fark!

[thesocietypages.org image 448x554]

[scandalvideo.org image 327x448]

[cdn2.mamapop.com image 850x1275]


....aaaaaand you'd still hit it with the angry fist of god too.
 
2012-12-14 12:37:26 PM  
13 was good looking but her after pic was just awful. Jeezus I never saw acne that bad even in high school.
 
2012-12-14 12:39:30 PM  

dickfreckle: CPT Ethanolic: DrPainMD: he

The results might be the same, but the timeline would be different. Some of those pics are 3-4 years apart. It would take 20 years of heavy drinking to accomplish that level of aging.

I've been lucky that my heavy drinking hasn't aged me (family has good skin, I guess). But it's time to stop. A man can only drink a 10 cocktails a day for so long before his liver stops returning his phone calls.

The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.

But holy fark - at least I'm not hooked on meth. I've watched several alcoholics ruin their lives, but none were anything like the methheads I've known.


drinking is much harder to quit than meth in many ways though.
you don't die from going cold turkey on meth. which may mean the physiological addiction is stronger with alcohol. people die everyday from quitting drinking or quitting benzos. also you aren't tempted with meth rocks in everyday situations like you are with meth. in some ways it is almost a societal norm to relieve stress with alcohol consumption.

and a lot of the physical problems from meth are simple behavioral issues caused by the drug addiction, not the drug itself.
I've seen meth users crater and then kick it so quick they didn't have time to destroy their body or life, and alcoholics spend 20 years f*cking up everything they came in contact with.
good luck.
 
2012-12-14 12:41:21 PM  

SlothB77: subby must be new here. i've seen #21 appear in many threads.

two things

1) didn't know she was an 'after meth' photo
2) she was smoking hot before. such a shame.


To be fair being "smoking hot" did most of the damage.
 
2012-12-14 12:43:26 PM  

cryinoutloud: dickfreckle: The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.

Good luck to you. Hey, are you sober in the morning when you wake up? Stay sober most of the day, or at least until 2 pm or so? You're detoxed. if you're talking about the other dependency, the one that makes you start drinking every day, that's the harder one.....

/I didn't go to rehab because I needed to be detoxed. I went to rehab because I couldn't sober up long enough to check in.


Good luck, Dick. Your liver will thank you.
 
2012-12-14 12:46:43 PM  
This and the school shooting thread are killing me today.
/but to you, dickfreckle, all the best blessings/good thoughts/positive energies going out to you as you move ahead. Best decision ever you made.
//child of lifelong alcoholic so anyone who does the right thing makes me feel all the good feelings
 
2012-12-14 12:52:50 PM  
media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-14 12:53:46 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: dickfreckle: The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.

Wow, congrats man. Wishing you the very best.


This. Stay strong and best wishes to you on your future sobriety.
 
2012-12-14 12:53:46 PM  

relcec: drinking is much harder to quit than meth in many ways though.


Any studies to back this up? From what I've heard the horrible thing about meth is that it's almost impossible to quit. Your brain gets so damaged that it's just not capable of feeling anything good except when you are high.
 
2012-12-14 12:54:36 PM  
"While many of these images are taken from individuals specifically cited in the record for methamphetamine-related offenses, some images were selected for inclusion based on inference

how asinine
 
2012-12-14 12:54:39 PM  

WhippingBoy: hdhale


WhippingBoy: hdhale: DirkTheDaring: Most of them look like they just walked off the set of The Walking Dead

Mainly because they are walking dead?

/don't do Meth...sure joke if you want, but don't do it even once...no need for further snark or "you just don't understand..."

Don't tell me how to live my life! My body, my choice!


It would be much easier and cheaper if you went to your garage, made sure the garage door was shut nice and tight, then started the car and put on some Mozart and waited. Your family would also be put through much less pain and suffering watching you turn into a monster that steals from them for more Meth while your bodily functions slowly short circuit.
 
2012-12-14 12:54:46 PM  
28/29 - Meth curled the dude's hair!
 
2012-12-14 12:55:24 PM  

DrPainMD: Ya know, they could put up an "alcohol: before and after" web page that is just as horrifying.


That is exactly the logic of why the left wants all drugs legal.
 
2012-12-14 12:55:45 PM  

slayer199: Meth looks like fun, doesn't it kids?

DrPainMD: Ya know, they could put up an "alcohol: before and after" web page that is just as horrifying.

Having known more than my fair share of alcoholics, they don't get that bad as quickly. Nonetheless, they should be showing these types of pics to kids starting in 5th and 6th grade.


You could run articles like this on a daily basis and there would still be enough idiots out there who'll think "It'll never happen to me" to keep the meth labs running 24/7.
 
2012-12-14 12:57:15 PM  
The earliest recipe I am aware of for meth was publuished in a chemistry text in 1874 and calls for anthracite coal, clear ammonia, an obscure brand of laundry bluing and many other common chemicals, easily obtained back then.

I do not know if it would work but it seems to have all the needed chemicals. When the chemist in Japan synthesized it in 1917, he was essentially following this formula.

From that time until WWII, meth was legal and you could be an addict for about 5 cents a day, Yet no one used it, wonder why. Japan handed it out liberally to its soldiers (the Rape of Nanking was probably so sadistic because so many soldiers were on it at the time), and in Germany they mixed it in candy called Panzer=shokolad or Luftwaffe=shokolad. Allied troops used it liberally as well.

I have to wonder why, if something can be manufactured for 5 cents and sold for $120, why we can't see the connection between skyrocketing profits and skyrocketing use.
 
2012-12-14 12:57:21 PM  

relcec: Food, before and after.
Holy Fark!

[thesocietypages.org image 448x554]

[scandalvideo.org image 327x448]

[cdn2.mamapop.com image 850x1275]


Either one bro, either one.
 
2012-12-14 12:57:33 PM  

cryinoutloud: dickfreckle: The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.

Good luck to you. Hey, are you sober in the morning when you wake up? Stay sober most of the day, or at least until 2 pm or so? You're detoxed. if you're talking about the other dependency, the one that makes you start drinking every day, that's the harder one.....

/I didn't go to rehab because I needed to be detoxed. I went to rehab because I couldn't sober up long enough to check in.


Being sober in the morning depends on my day's schedule (currently work mostly for myself). But no matter what, I require at least one drink/beer in order to feel above ground. I ride a motorcycle, so I can't get too tanked in the daytime. Thankfully, I live in a walking city so I can just park her at night and get in trouble on my own two feet.

Sadly, the "one drink: I need to feel alive is morphing into two, three, or even more. That's how I know it's time to quit.

My biggest fear is that because I've a party guy for so long, I'll have no idea what to do with myself once totally sober. But I'm also not big on liver disease. The last time I was hospitalized (non-drinking incident) he told me that my enzymes were out of whack. That was several years ago. At present, I'm healthy, or at least appear to be. And I want it to stay that way.

Next on the chopping block: Marlboros.
 
2012-12-14 12:57:34 PM  
Could be worse.

I strongly advise against doing a GIS for "krokodil".
It is a synthetic opiate used in Russia that makes your flesh rot.

SFW wiki link
 
2012-12-14 12:58:46 PM  
The young ones, I can understand. Kids do dumb things all the time. Who gets to late thirties/early forties and decides, "Hey, I think I'll try that meth stuff that everyone's talking about."?
 
2012-12-14 12:59:27 PM  

dickfreckle: Next on the chopping block: Marlboros.


And I can't quit both at the same time, lest I end up a Fark headline.
 
2012-12-14 01:03:44 PM  

relcec: and alcoholics spend 20 years f*cking up everything they came in contact with.
good luck.


That's what I'm trying to avoid. I can already see it coming down the pike. Either I quit now, or resign myself to a life of bullsh*t. As it stands, my reputation and income are solid. I want to keep it this way.

I don't want to be forced by "rock bottom." There's too much in this world to live for.
 
2012-12-14 01:05:38 PM  

Wade_Wilson: When I was a kid I used to watch a TV special called "Cartoon All Stars To The Rescue". It's from about 1990, and starred characters from like a dozen popular cartoon franchises. Muppet Babies, Garfield, TMNT, the Smurfs, etc.

But it was also a preachy anti-drug PSA in which the characters basically torment a guy because he smokes pot and is thinking of moving on to harder stuff. I mostly watched it because it was cool to see so many characters, and because my local video store let you borrow PSAs for free.

At one point they show the guy looking like a literal zombie in a funhouse mirror, and tell him that's what will happen if he keeps using drugs. Even as a kid I knew to call BS on this, it was quite obviously a case of the "scare 'em straight even if you have to lie" tactics that were popular at the time.

But every time I see one of these Before/After meth galleries, all I can think is "Holy shiat! Slimer and Papa Smurf were right! They totally saw meth coming!"

/My csb
//(singing) There's a million billion wonderful ways to say no


I used to love the cartoon. The only problem is that it made me more interested in trying drugs because I thought it would mean I would get to hang out with all my favorite cartoon characters.
 
2012-12-14 01:06:28 PM  
15 years ago I had a neighbor (single mother) who was raising a smart kid who fell in with the wrong crowd at age 12. Suddenly he began walking around looking like a zombie, I mentioned to the mom that I thought he was on drugs which she denied and even her brother got involved. He got kicked out of school and was doing home school but during the day there would be friends at his house all day while the mother was out and they would all sit outside on the back porch drinking and smoking weed. I reported it to the cops many times but nothing was ever done. One night an ambulance showed up at his house, the mother found the kid on his bed without a heartbeat and managed to revive him (she was a NURSE) but he was severely brain damaged. His 'friends' disappeared and this once cute kid is now barely functional and barely capable of wiping his own butt.
 
2MS
2012-12-14 01:08:49 PM  
Can one of our resident Fark chemists explain the difference between this meth and the stuff they called "crank" back in the 80s, 90s. Because (theoretically) I didn't see this kind of damage from "recreational use" of a lot of that stuff back then.
 
2012-12-14 01:09:39 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: Could be worse.

I strongly advise against doing a GIS for "krokodil".
It is a synthetic opiate used in Russia that makes your flesh rot.

SFW wiki link


Oh. My. God.
 
2012-12-14 01:09:56 PM  

Thurston Howell: Dammit, Forbidden Doughnut got there first...


Nah. It's cool. We FARKERs think on the same twisted wavelengths, I believe...
 
2012-12-14 01:18:50 PM  
Is it methamphetamine itself that causes this or is it byproducts from shiatty backroom chemistry?
 
2012-12-14 01:19:33 PM  

dickfreckle: CPT Ethanolic: DrPainMD: he

The results might be the same, but the timeline would be different. Some of those pics are 3-4 years apart. It would take 20 years of heavy drinking to accomplish that level of aging.

I've been lucky that my heavy drinking hasn't aged me (family has good skin, I guess). But it's time to stop. A man can only drink a 10 cocktails a day for so long before his liver stops returning his phone calls.

The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.

But holy fark - at least I'm not hooked on meth. I've watched several alcoholics ruin their lives, but none were anything like the methheads I've known.


I just wanted to say good luck, it's not easy. I stopped drinking for 6 months by going cold turkey, bad idea. My personal experience was not as bad as many people but it was still rough. I eventually had to see my doctor because my head literally felt like it was going to explode, I was so angry with everyone around me. They got me some scripts and I began to feel much better. I went back to drinking but I don't drink nearly as much as I did before I stopped. I lost about 30lbs after quitting and also got a huge portion of my wallet back. Good luck!
 
2012-12-14 01:21:36 PM  

2MS: Can one of our resident Fark chemists explain the difference between this meth and the stuff they called "crank" back in the 80s, 90s. Because (theoretically) I didn't see this kind of damage from "recreational use" of a lot of that stuff back then.


I doubt this recreational.
 
2012-12-14 01:24:38 PM  

dickfreckle: Being sober in the morning depends on my day's schedule (currently work mostly for myself). But no matter what, I require at least one drink/beer in order to feel above ground. I ride a motorcycle, so I can't get too tanked in the daytime. Thankfully, I live in a walking city so I can just park her at night and get in trouble on my own two feet.
Sadly, the "one drink: I need to feel alive is morphing into two, three, or even more. That's how I know it's time to quit.


I guess I didn't want you to think that you needed IVs in your arm to detox--if all drunks needed detox, half of Fark would be in convulsions when the liquor store closed. Not that a heavy dose of vitamins and liquids is bad for you when you're trying to sober up, but you have to be pretty far gone to really need detoxing. I went through heroic, Fark-headline worthy BACs, and I never needed detox.

But if you're maintenance drinking, yeah, that's a bad sign. We used to call it "drinking to feel normal." Once you've gone there, it's a long way back. I don't how rehabs are these days, but used to be you weren't allowed to communicate with the outside world much when you got there, and it loosened up some later. You were supposed to be working on yourself, not worrying about the outside world or what others thought of you being in rehab. You just sit around and talk about your life endlessly, how you got to such a place, and how you can fix it. And despite all warnings, a good percentage of the people there will try to hook up with someone, to make their journey less painful. Don't do that. It is a bad idea. 

And seriously--good luck. It takes a long time, don't expect to be fixed in 30 days. I'll be looking for your purple posts again. (Purple is good.)
 
2012-12-14 01:24:49 PM  

dickfreckle: CPT Ethanolic: DrPainMD: he

The results might be the same, but the timeline would be different. Some of those pics are 3-4 years apart. It would take 20 years of heavy drinking to accomplish that level of aging.

I've been lucky that my heavy drinking hasn't aged me (family has good skin, I guess). But it's time to stop. A man can only drink a 10 cocktails a day for so long before his liver stops returning his phone calls.

The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.

But holy fark - at least I'm not hooked on meth. I've watched several alcoholics ruin their lives, but none were anything like the methheads I've known.


God speed brother. I hope the new year brings better times.
 
2012-12-14 01:25:55 PM  
Meth is Hard!
 
2012-12-14 01:29:50 PM  

JackieRabbit: Is it methamphetamine itself that causes this or is it byproducts from shiatty backroom chemistry?


from what I gather a lot of it is apparently behavioral.
teeth grinding. staying hydrated and eating properly isn't appetizing on meth to many and this is another part of the meth mouth and the sickliness. lack of hygiene. not going into the sunlight. picking at your shiat for hours. not sleeping.

if you had someone in your employ to to get you to brush your teeth, stay hydrated, stop picking your shiat, east a balanced diet, get some sunshine and pump you with enough benzos to get adequate rest every couple days I bet 85% of the deterioration wouldn't occur. its the drug that causes most of the zombie look I always thought, but not directly.
 
2012-12-14 01:33:05 PM  

dickfreckle: CPT Ethanolic: DrPainMD: he

The results might be the same, but the timeline would be different. Some of those pics are 3-4 years apart. It would take 20 years of heavy drinking to accomplish that level of aging.

I've been lucky that my heavy drinking hasn't aged me (family has good skin, I guess). But it's time to stop. A man can only drink a 10 cocktails a day for so long before his liver stops returning his phone calls.

The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.
.


Good luck
 
2012-12-14 01:33:39 PM  
u'd have to be gay to do meth for days on end without sleep or eating. the body gives natural signals to tell you to sleep. . and the brain psychologically tells you that you should be keeping up with at least 400 calories a day to avoid starvation. and drinking enough water
 
2012-12-14 01:33:54 PM  
Well, it does appear to be a good way to lose weight...
 
2012-12-14 01:35:35 PM  

bugcrusher: Rich Cream: //I suppose that could be attributed to "meth use"
Unless you're farked up on the stuff, you don't get into cooking it as a job. So yes, she was hooked on meth, and decided that cooking it was a great way to support her habit. Then her face got all melty.


My Uncle Slayton, he cooks that crystal meth because the shine don't sell
You know he likes his money he don't mind the smell.
 
2012-12-14 01:36:13 PM  
Mohammed blowing a donkey!

#1 was bad enough and I stopped after #3; #7 must be out of a horror film.

No, thank you.
 
2012-12-14 01:36:28 PM  

cryinoutloud: dickfreckle: Being sober in the morning depends on my day's schedule (currently work mostly for myself). But no matter what, I require at least one drink/beer in order to feel above ground. I ride a motorcycle, so I can't get too tanked in the daytime. Thankfully, I live in a walking city so I can just park her at night and get in trouble on my own two feet.
Sadly, the "one drink: I need to feel alive is morphing into two, three, or even more. That's how I know it's time to quit.

I guess I didn't want you to think that you needed IVs in your arm to detox--if all drunks needed detox, half of Fark would be in convulsions when the liquor store closed. Not that a heavy dose of vitamins and liquids is bad for you when you're trying to sober up, but you have to be pretty far gone to really need detoxing. I went through heroic, Fark-headline worthy BACs, and I never needed detox.

But if you're maintenance drinking, yeah, that's a bad sign. We used to call it "drinking to feel normal." Once you've gone there, it's a long way back. I don't how rehabs are these days, but used to be you weren't allowed to communicate with the outside world much when you got there, and it loosened up some later. You were supposed to be working on yourself, not worrying about the outside world or what others thought of you being in rehab. You just sit around and talk about your life endlessly, how you got to such a place, and how you can fix it. And despite all warnings, a good percentage of the people there will try to hook up with someone, to make their journey less painful. Don't do that. It is a bad idea. 

And seriously--good luck. It takes a long time, don't expect to be fixed in 30 days. I'll be looking for your purple posts again. (Purple is good.)


I fear being shuttered from my friends and, well, apparently everything else. Seems draconian, even if it is for the best. I've already made plans to shut down my nascent self-employment. My impossibly awesome redhead will pay bills once I run out.

Once again, I want to quit before I hit bottom. I know I'm making the right decision, but I'm terrified. Kinda feels like I'm about to lose my best friend, even if that friend is trying to kill me.

/am 38 - have always been a party guy but in the past two years it's greatly accelerated, whether from stress, ennui, or just living in the city
//I will literally die if I don't do this
///sorry for getting all personal and ruining everyone's thread
 
2012-12-14 01:38:45 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: u'd have to be gay to do meth for days on end without sleep or eating. the body gives natural signals to tell you to sleep. . and the brain psychologically tells you that you should be keeping up with at least 400 calories a day to avoid starvation. and drinking enough water


some drugs make filling your stomach with anything feel mildly unappetizing.
you ever taken a hit of meth, coke, or heroin and felt the desire to go to the golden coral and get a tbone and baked potato?
 
2012-12-14 01:43:42 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: Could be worse.

I strongly advise against doing a GIS for "krokodil".
It is a synthetic opiate used in Russia that makes your flesh rot.

SFW wiki link


Jesus christ, what kind of high is worth having your arm rot off?
 
2012-12-14 01:43:44 PM  

DrPainMD: Ya know, they could put up an "alcohol: before and after" web page that is just as horrifying.


They could also put up a "Jersey Shore: before and after" web page that would be twice as horrifying. Spiked hair, fake tans, and duckfaces, Oh My.
 
2012-12-14 01:44:04 PM  

dickfreckle: ///sorry for getting all personal and ruining everyone's thread


Pretty sure you brightened everyone's day a tad for recognizing, acting and sharing.
You'll be okay; we're all rooting for you.
 
2012-12-14 01:54:01 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: dickfreckle: ///sorry for getting all personal and ruining everyone's thread

Pretty sure you brightened everyone's day a tad for recognizing, acting and sharing.
You'll be okay; we're all rooting for you.


This x 1000.

I would rather read a story about somebody aware enough to interrupt a potentially tragic chain of events, than read the NTSB report about the guy flying himself into a hillside. So good on you, dickfreckle -- and good luck.
 
2012-12-14 01:54:12 PM  

dickfreckle: CPT Ethanolic: DrPainMD: he

The results might be the same, but the timeline would be different. Some of those pics are 3-4 years apart. It would take 20 years of heavy drinking to accomplish that level of aging.

I've been lucky that my heavy drinking hasn't aged me (family has good skin, I guess). But it's time to stop. A man can only drink a 10 cocktails a day for so long before his liver stops returning his phone calls.

The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.

But holy fark - at least I'm not hooked on meth. I've watched several alcoholics ruin their lives, but none were anything like the methheads I've known.


Best of luck to you brother!!
 
2012-12-14 01:56:05 PM  
dickfreckle is such a quitter.
 
2012-12-14 01:57:18 PM  

Nurglitch: dickfreckle is such a quitter.


Damn straight I am.
 
2012-12-14 02:02:03 PM  
dickfreckle: The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.

Good for you! Recognizing the problem and doing something about it is really hard.

//I will literally die if I don't do this

Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. My uncle died of liver failure due to drinking.

Also look into some of the herbal suppliments. I had a friend who was having this problem ("Let's go to Sam's club! They are having a sale on their 1/2 gallon bottles of Vodka and I want to stock up!") who took supplements to support various organs and was able to quit cold turkey without having too many side effects. Find someone who knows how to do the research on what to take and how effective the various treatments are.
 
2012-12-14 02:05:12 PM  
Drugs are bad, mmmkay?
 
2012-12-14 02:10:08 PM  

Thurston Howell: CapeFearCadaver: dickfreckle: ///sorry for getting all personal and ruining everyone's thread

Pretty sure you brightened everyone's day a tad for recognizing, acting and sharing.
You'll be okay; we're all rooting for you.

This x 1000.

I would rather read a story about somebody aware enough to interrupt a potentially tragic chain of events, than read the NTSB report about the guy flying himself into a hillside. So good on you, dickfreckle -- and good luck.


Thank you. But it already has been somewhat tragic. I was an academic, but partying was more my style. I've been everywhere and done everything. Even pissed in a multi-millionaire's grandfather clock while drunk-sleepwalking.

I was a bartender for some years, earning a very respectable living if I may say so. Then I got into building computers for clients whose needs weren't met by Best Buy, and it started occurring to me that I'm no longer a young man who can throw caution to the wind. I need my wits about me. More importantly, I need my liver to keep working and living. Livers, as I understand, can regenerate somewhat if you quit in time.

I am drinking today, because I have no appointments. In 12 days I sign my life over to a bunch of strangers. It's terrifying. But I do have the aforementioned Redhead. Hell, it was her idea. I'm lucky to have her after being so distant and numb to her world. Must be my awesome penis.

/not really, but for some reason she loves me, and I'll her more than ever
 
2012-12-14 02:11:49 PM  
need
 
2012-12-14 02:12:30 PM  

dickfreckle: cryinoutloud: dickfreckle: Being sober in the morning depends on my day's schedule (currently work mostly for myself). But no matter what, I require at least one drink/beer in order to feel above ground. I ride a motorcycle, so I can't get too tanked in the daytime. Thankfully, I live in a walking city so I can just park her at night and get in trouble on my own two feet.
Sadly, the "one drink: I need to feel alive is morphing into two, three, or even more. That's how I know it's time to quit.
...

Doesn't seem to me like anyone minds your little detour so far. Good on you for seeing this coming and not waiting for rock bottom to do something about it. Best of luck mate!
 
2012-12-14 02:15:42 PM  

relcec: dickfreckle: CPT Ethanolic: DrPainMD: he

The results might be the same, but the timeline would be different. Some of those pics are 3-4 years apart. It would take 20 years of heavy drinking to accomplish that level of aging.

I've been lucky that my heavy drinking hasn't aged me (family has good skin, I guess). But it's time to stop. A man can only drink a 10 cocktails a day for so long before his liver stops returning his phone calls.

The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.

But holy fark - at least I'm not hooked on meth. I've watcrelcec: Jon iz teh kewl: u'd have to be gay to do meth for days on end without sleep or eating. the body gives natural signals to tell you to sleep. . and the brain psychologically tells you that you should be keeping up with at least 400 calories a day to avoid starvation. and drinking enough water

some drugs make filling your stomach with anything feel mildly unappetizing.
you ever taken a hit of meth, coke, or heroin and felt the desire to go to the golden coral and get a tbone and baked potato?

hed several alcoholics ruin their lives, but none were anything like the methheads I've known.

drinking is much harder to quit than meth in many ways though.
you don't die from going cold turkey on meth. which may mean the physiological addiction is stronger with alcohol. people die everyday from quitting drinking or quitting benzos. also you aren't tempted with meth rocks in everyday situations like you are with meth. in some ways it is almost a societal norm to relieve stress with alcohol consumption.

and a lot of the physical problems from meth are simple behavioral issues caused by the drug addiction, not the drug itself.
I've seen meth users crater and then kick it so quick they didn't have time to destroy their body or life, and alcoholics spend 20 years f*cking up everything they came in contact with.
good luck.


Wow....just wow. You know how we know you don't do meth or drink alcohol? You have no idea what the fark you're talking about.
 
2012-12-14 02:21:46 PM  

2MS: Can one of our resident Fark chemists explain the difference between this meth and the stuff they called "crank" back in the 80s, 90s. Because (theoretically) I didn't see this kind of damage from "recreational use" of a lot of that stuff back then.


They are the same thing. Crank is the 'smoked form'. Or were you talking about crack?
 
2012-12-14 02:23:34 PM  
img.photobucket.com 
Before/after meth
 
2012-12-14 02:31:01 PM  

cryinoutloud: I went through heroic, Fark-headline worthy BACs, and I never needed detox.


I need alcohol just to avoid the sort of shaking that makes it hard to button your shirt. The hands only shake when trying to do tiny tasks like that, but nevertheless they shake. Only a shot of whiskey (or vodka if I work that day) can cover it up.

I'm telling you, I need detox. When I travel in the South and forget that I can't buy beer on Sundays, I spend those Sundays in mild convulsions. Those same counties are almost always flyover, meaning I can't ride my motorcycle to the "neighborhood" bar 14 miles down the road. I'd rather suffer than die at 38 because I was dumb enough to ride a bike after drinking.

Detox symptoms are quite real. I should know. And that's why I'm checking in rather than going it alone. I don't need their willpower; I need their drugs to soothe if no eliminate the terror of it all. If I were just a casual drinker, I'd simply quit. The same way I quit cocaine. Except cocaine wasn't a 20 year part of my life.
 
2MS
2012-12-14 02:32:16 PM  

fmk040: 2MS: Can one of our resident Fark chemists explain the difference between this meth and the stuff they called "crank" back in the 80s, 90s. Because (theoretically) I didn't see this kind of damage from "recreational use" of a lot of that stuff back then.

They are the same thing. Crank is the 'smoked form'. Or were you talking about crack?


Nope, not crack. Was called crank, and was snorted.
 
2012-12-14 02:32:41 PM  

dickfreckle:
I've been lucky that my heavy drinking hasn't aged me (family has good skin, I guess). But it's time to stop. A man can only drink a 10 cocktails a day for so long before his liver stops returning his phone calls.

The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll.

 

Yeah, good luck with that.

21, maybe 30 days of sitting around watching old worn out "Don't Drink" VCR tapes that are on par with the Reefer Madness movie, sitting in a Group Session where they pass around worn-out dog-eared zerox copies of old/bad alcohol information and every idjut in the room gets to (try and) read a paragraph from (that alone will make you pray for either a double shot of Jack, or a double-tap from a Smith & Wesson), all while being "counseled" by some dry drunk that took a 40 hour community college course and is now your lord and master.

They never mention to you that the 5-year success rate for the program is less than one percent, and if they claim anything higher they are either lying, or counting the people who died as having been "cured" of their addiction.

Granted, the break from drinking that an in-patient program will give you may well save your life, but most people leave a program as ill-equipped to handle sober living as when they went in.

A.A Meetings may help keep you clean and sober, but that is at the cost of every last vestige of personal dignity you might have left.

Try just weaning yourself off the juice until you can go 24 hours without dying from being sober, and then pop an antibuse. Drink a lot of water, and eat an aspirin twice a day to keep your blood from turning to mud (it will, when you dry out).

Screw the idea of cognitive therapy. Alcohol is so ingrained into your personality by now, it just won't farking work. But just ONE antibuse every couple of days will force you into pure sobriety, without any effort.

And forget that AA mantra of "Hi, I'm so-and-so, and I am an alcoholic loser". Just have your significant other (if you have anyone who cares about you even left*) slip you that antibuse every couple of days, and you'll be instead saying "I'm not an alcoholic, I was just really thirsty!


In any event, Best of Luck to you. Think about using the 10 grand you were going to spend on the in-patient treatment and get everyone a nice Christmas present.


* Don't even begin to think you can trust yourself to dose yourself - you cannot. But even that ex-wife you used to beat during your drunken rages will gladly come over and dose you, especially when she realizes antibuse might kill you!
 
2012-12-14 02:33:39 PM  
www.personal.psu.edu
 
2012-12-14 02:34:55 PM  

JerkStore: Well, it does appear to be a good way to lose weight...


And a good way to age 20 years in only 2. Meth, the new time machine.
 
2MS
2012-12-14 02:35:00 PM  

dickfreckle: cryinoutloud: I went through heroic, Fark-headline worthy BACs, and I never needed detox.

I need alcohol just to avoid the sort of shaking that makes it hard to button your shirt. The hands only shake when trying to do tiny tasks like that, but nevertheless they shake. Only a shot of whiskey (or vodka if I work that day) can cover it up.

I'm telling you, I need detox. When I travel in the South and forget that I can't buy beer on Sundays, I spend those Sundays in mild convulsions. Those same counties are almost always flyover, meaning I can't ride my motorcycle to the "neighborhood" bar 14 miles down the road. I'd rather suffer than die at 38 because I was dumb enough to ride a bike after drinking.

Detox symptoms are quite real. I should know. And that's why I'm checking in rather than going it alone. I don't need their willpower; I need their drugs to soothe if no eliminate the terror of it all. If I were just a casual drinker, I'd simply quit. The same way I quit cocaine. Except cocaine wasn't a 20 year part of my life.


Stay strong, my friend, and do what you need to do. Everybody has their opinion, but it's yours that matters in this case. Good luck, and keep in touch. I know a little of what you suffer.
 
2012-12-14 02:40:38 PM  

ItchyBrother: They never mention to you that the 5-year success rate for the program is less than one percent, and if they claim anything higher they are either lying, or counting the people who died as having been "cured" of their addiction.


This will be purely medical. I don't buy into the whole spiritual approach to booze anymore than I buy into abstinence-only programs.

I'm a non-believer. But I believe in medicine. All I want is some soothing of what is assuredly a terrible process.

Then I have to see a psychiatrist - the whole reason I'm an addict in the first place.
 
2012-12-14 02:43:13 PM  

2MS: I know a little of what you suffer.


Hey man, thanks.
 
2012-12-14 02:51:51 PM  

ItchyBrother: A.A Meetings may help keep you clean and sober, but that is at the cost of every last vestige of personal dignity you might have left.


Spoken like a man who has no idea what the fark he is talking about. There is no reason to try convincing you of anything because you're not worth the effort. Have a nice day!!
 
2MS
2012-12-14 02:58:49 PM  

ItchyBrother: dickfreckle:
I've been lucky that my heavy drinking hasn't aged me (family has good skin, I guess). But it's time to stop. A man can only drink a 10 cocktails a day for so long before his liver stops returning his phone calls.

The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care. My only hope is that they have wi-fi so I can still annoy all ya'll. 

Yeah, good luck with that.

21, maybe 30 days of sitting around watching old worn out "Don't Drink" VCR tapes that are on par with the Reefer Madness movie, sitting in a Group Session where they pass around worn-out dog-eared zerox copies of old/bad alcohol information and every idjut in the room gets to (try and) read a paragraph from (that alone will make you pray for either a double shot of Jack, or a double-tap from a Smith & Wesson), all while being "counseled" by some dry drunk that took a 40 hour community college course and is now your lord and master.

They never mention to you that the 5-year success rate for the program is less than one percent, and if they claim anything higher they are either lying, or counting the people who died as having been "cured" of their addiction.

Granted, the break from drinking that an in-patient program will give you may well save your life, but most people leave a program as ill-equipped to handle sober living as when they went in.

A.A Meetings may help keep you clean and sober, but that is at the cost of every last vestige of personal dignity you might have left.

Try just weaning yourself off the juice until you can go 24 hours without dying from being sober, and then pop an antibuse. Drink a lot of water, and eat an aspirin twice a day to keep your blood from turning to mud (it will, when you dry out).

Screw the idea of cognitive therapy. Alcohol is so ingrained into your personality by now, it just won't farking work. But just ONE antib ...


Really?? Thanks for the words of incouragement. It's people like you that keep a lot of people drinking.
/Really, FARK YOU!
//Yes, Really
 
2012-12-14 02:59:31 PM  

dickfreckle: I've been lucky that my heavy drinking hasn't aged me (family has good skin, I guess). But it's time to stop. A man can only drink a 10 cocktails a day for so long before his liver stops returning his phone calls.

The problem is that once the body becomes dependent, I can either die, literally, or be in a world of hurt trying to detox on my own. So as of the 26th, I'm checking in to inpatient care.


I wish you the very best of luck...I've detoxed and been to rehab for an opiate (heroin) addiction at least 3 times in my 25 years of life. From what I understand, alcohol withdrawal is even worse than opiate withdrawal. The irony is that I started using opiates as a way to get around the alcohol withdrawals (*I drank Bacardi 151 for a year and a half straight from the ages of 20 to 21 and was getting the shakes during the day if I didn't wake up and immediately take a shot) and like many who wind up on the junk, I started with pills (percocets and oxycontins) before gradually progressing to getting heroin because it was cheaper and more widely available. No one ever imagines that they'd be capable of sticking a needle into their own body...but it just happens; especially when you start getting nosebleeds from snorting 10+ bags in a single day.

I've been struggling with my own addiction over the past 6 months and have found myself in a similar position once again and have plans to admit myself on January 1st. The most successful quitting attempt was on New Year's Day of 2010 and they say that it helps to attach your "clean date" to an otherwise important date because you'll be more likely to stick with it. But I lack the self control necessary to be successful in a suboxone program. It is my understanding that they also prescribe suboxone for alcoholics and that it works very well for those who are trying to stop drinking. I don't know if that's something you might want to look into or not, but I figured I would throw it out there...It really is a miracle drug for those who are trying to quit and it does a great job of abating the withdrawal symptoms without making you groggy, high, or otherwise incapable of functioning properly; quite the opposite, as a matter of fact...you're actually much clearer and focused on the suboxone than you would be if you just went back to your drug of choice and "got right". The problem for me, though, is that I wind up selling the suboxone to get $ so I can get high, or I'll just flat out refuse to take them because I hold out hope that I'll wind up being able to get some bags later on in the day (*which is usually exactly what winds up happening) so I just can't be trusted to have the self control, direction, or commitment necessary to use the suboxone successfully. But i am hoping that that is what they will wind up using to detox me once I check in because the methadone is so much harder to stop taking; for me, it was 1000X more easy to stop taking the suboxones when I was ready than it was to stop using the methadone or the dope. The hardest part of the process was stopping using the dope and getting on the suboxone in the first place; you fall in love with the ritual of it all. You find yourself going to sleep early so you can wake up and do your shiat in the morning lest you run the risk of staying up too late and saying "fark it" and doing your stuff you have saved for the morning.

Anyhow, it seems like this is the one subject I wind up being the most passionate and wordy about, so I'll stop here before I get too many "tl;dr" comments or responses. I just wanted to tell you that I hope you are successful and that you are far from alone in being a "functioning" addict (*if that is what you would consider yourself, that is). The fact that you have recognized your need for help and have resigned yourself over to checking into an inpatient facility is a good sign, though, and I wish you all the luck in the world in your road to recovery.
 
2012-12-14 03:04:05 PM  
Antibuse will totally make you a non-drinker.

And it will obviate any need for a shrink: you will bury the stuff that makes you drink so deep into your psyche, it won't bother you again until you're friggin' reincarnated.

One 24-hour dry stretch, and you're good to go with a chip of antibuse (no, don't start out with a whole dose for chrissakes!)

Water, more water, and then drink some water - and a couple of valiums (and blood-thinning aspirin) - and you'll suffer through the worst the the withdrawls without dying.

(Provided, of course, your heart just doesn't stop)

A temporary AA Sponsor will help you through that initial 24 to 36 hour detox terror.

(Cheaper than a doctor; all they want is bad coffee and stale sugar-cookies, and will be happy to help)
 
2012-12-14 03:07:45 PM  

dickfreckle: I know I'm making the right decision, but I'm terrified. Kinda feels like I'm about to lose my best friend, even if that friend is trying to kill me.



I'd tell you a story, but everyone likes to tell stories and no one likes to hear them so I'll just say:
I've been there I think; exactly there at that same point, the dts, the wonderful gf living with your shiat, the can't even imagine living life without it. and things can get back to normal for you again. and it is just possible it might not even be nearly as hard as you think and the steppers claim. truly, best of luck.
 
2012-12-14 03:11:39 PM  

seapig: Anyhow, it seems like this is the one subject I wind up being the most passionate and wordy about, so I'll stop here before I get too many "tl;dr" comments or responses.


Truncated just to avoid being annoying and reposting that wall 'o text, but I'm with you.

seapig: and they say that it helps to attach your "clean date" to an otherwise important date because you'll be more likely to stick with it.


I picked the date for logistical reasons. Holidays and all that. Not because I want to drink at the holidays (though I will) but because everyone calms down once the holidays are over.
 
2012-12-14 03:13:21 PM  

dickfreckle: Nurglitch: dickfreckle is such a quitter.

Damn straight I am.


At least you still have a sense of humour. Something you might consider is putting your drinking and smoking on a schedule. Every 21-28 days you drop another scheduled smoke or drink from your schedule. The notion is essentially that you're training your body to do with less, and regimenting your intake will allow you to better connect the effects of the substances on you, and to dissassociate from them.
 
2012-12-14 03:17:29 PM  

relcec: dickfreckle: I know I'm making the right decision, but I'm terrified. Kinda feels like I'm about to lose my best friend, even if that friend is trying to kill me.


I'd tell you a story, but everyone likes to tell stories and no one likes to hear them so I'll just say:
I've been there I think; exactly there at that same point, the dts, the wonderful gf living with your shiat, the can't even imagine living life without it. and things can get back to normal for you again. and it is just possible it might not even be nearly as hard as you think and the steppers claim. truly, best of luck.


My Redhead loves me for other reasons. Apparently she thinks I'm smart and impassioned about the causes you and I will never agree on.

Thing is...she cares about me. The only way I can repay that is by being sober. I owe this to her. Hell, I owe it to myself.

Please understand that I'm not the sort of drinker who comes home and beats his woman, or starts trouble in bars (have been known to "finish" it). I'm a "fun" drunk. The "I love you man!" sort. Still, that can be annoying. That's she's put up with my BS for so long is a strong mark of character.

/she's also nearly six feet tall, which is pretty cool
 
2012-12-14 03:20:04 PM  
i.imgur.com
colemanzone.com
 
2012-12-14 03:21:08 PM  

Generation_D: You'd have to be on meth to want to sit there and click that crap 50 times. Is this some kind of test, slidemitter?

I still remain convinced it is more the "not sleeping for weeks at a time" that does this, rather than the drug itself, though filtering battery acid residue can't be that healthy.


It took me less than two f*cking minutes. Of course, most Farkers do nothing but gaming and watching My Pretty Pony so it's not surprising your attention span is LT 2 minutes.

Any research supporting your "sleep" theory? Lack of sleep causes tooth-loss, scabs and all the other manifestations of meth use? I don't buy that. Citations needed.

Plus, have you ever seen the houses occupied by meth addicts? I've known people in Child Services who pretty much say all meth houses are basically the same and can be ID'ed simply by walking into the door.

This ain't an issue simply described as "chronic insomnia".
 
2012-12-14 03:21:49 PM  

dickfreckle: ///sorry for getting all personal and ruining everyone's thread


You're not ruining anyone's thread. Thanks for sharing and best of luck to you. I was almost where you are now. I was unemployed, feeling sorry for myself, and bored. So I drank. First a glass of wine, then another, then the whole bottle. I wasn't even drinking to feel normal. I was drinking just to zone out. After my body got used to one bottle & I found myself needing a second, I woke the fark up. Took me 8-9 months from point A to OMG, what the hell have I done?? Didn't go to rehab but at least stopped drinking and found other things to occupy my time instead. And finally found a new job.

Your friends will still be there when you're done with your program. Good on you for taking the steps you need to get sober.
 
2012-12-14 03:23:01 PM  

dickfreckle: My Redhead loves me for other reasons. Apparently she thinks I'm smart and impassioned about the causes you and I will never agree on.

Thing is...she cares about me. The only way I can repay that is by being sober. I owe this to her. Hell, I owe it to myself.



no one loves you for your politics, dude. they love that you give a f*ck, about something, everything.
 
2012-12-14 03:32:26 PM  

brigid_fitch: dickfreckle: ///sorry for getting all personal and ruining everyone's thread

You're not ruining anyone's thread. Thanks for sharing and best of luck to you. I was almost where you are now. I was unemployed, feeling sorry for myself, and bored. So I drank. First a glass of wine, then another, then the whole bottle. I wasn't even drinking to feel normal. I was drinking just to zone out. After my body got used to one bottle & I found myself needing a second, I woke the fark up. Took me 8-9 months from point A to OMG, what the hell have I done?? Didn't go to rehab but at least stopped drinking and found other things to occupy my time instead. And finally found a new job.

Your friends will still be there when you're done with your program. Good on you for taking the steps you need to get sober.


Thanks for the well-wishes, I promise I'll be sober, and probably immediately employed. Either by my own hand or someone who is desperate for help.

My friends are another story. After Katrina many (hell, most) went away for good. But we still enjoy watching the Saints and punching each other for no apparent reason. Yes, that makes me a macho-dick ITG poseur, but that's how it was.

How do I reintegrate to the world after spending 20 years with a strong buzz? How am I going to behave? I've always been a decent guy, but how do you adjust to what seems like a foreign life?

And how in the hell am I going to watch football without beer? It's a crime.
 
2012-12-14 03:34:14 PM  
Did you see the MILF hotness sex with sons friends chick link below?
 
2012-12-14 03:37:31 PM  

SlothB77: subby must be new here. i've seen #21 appear in many threads.

two things

1) didn't know she was an 'after meth' photo
2) she was smoking hot before. such a shame.


Someone I work with (in a doctor's office) said that she looks like someone who is a burn victim with skin grafts. I dunno anything else.
 
2012-12-14 03:37:46 PM  

dickfreckle: How do I reintegrate to the world after spending 20 years with a strong buzz? How am I going to behave? I've always been a decent guy, but how do you adjust to what seems like a foreign life?

And how in the hell am I going to watch football without beer? It's a crime.



a random Tuesday afternoon at 2pm in a bar spent lustily admiring a beautiful pint of beer as a bright sunbeam cut through it and lit up those tiny bubbles as they propagated from that one infinitesimal point on the glass.
 
2012-12-14 03:39:08 PM  

andyofne: SlothB77: subby must be new here. i've seen #21 appear in many threads.

two things

1) didn't know she was an 'after meth' photo
2) she was smoking hot before. such a shame.

Someone I work with (in a doctor's office) said that she looks like someone who is a burn victim with skin grafts. I dunno anything else.


her face burned off in meth explosion or some such.
 
2012-12-14 03:56:22 PM  
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.comencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
Alcohol: Before and After
 
2012-12-14 04:04:22 PM  
In keeping with the spirit of the original article on "progression";

awards.prweekus.com 

(Note the DoD byline)
 
2012-12-14 04:14:48 PM  

ItchyBrother: In keeping with the spirit of the original article on "progression";

[awards.prweekus.com image 646x500] 

(Note the DoD byline)


Dear god. Shaving off one eyebrow is cruel.
 
2012-12-14 05:20:25 PM  

relcec: her face burned off in meth explosion or some such.


meaning she was in fact smoking hot at some point between those photos
 
2012-12-14 06:22:16 PM  
#21 must not have had Walter White helping her.
 
2012-12-14 06:23:49 PM  
And yeah, an effing slide show.

We have the technology today to eliminate those (or make them much better). Why don't more websites use it?
 
2012-12-14 07:35:53 PM  
Meh, faces of meth is so boring.

Can we get the "faces of ecstasy" or maybe the "faces of weed"

/???
 
2012-12-14 08:48:52 PM  

UsikFark: ItchyBrother: In keeping with the spirit of the original article on "progression";

[awards.prweekus.com image 646x500] 

(Note the DoD byline)

Dear god. Shaving off one eyebrow is cruel.


This.
I only have one. Leave it the hell alone!
 
2012-12-14 10:57:18 PM  

2MS: Can one of our resident Fark chemists explain the difference between this meth and the stuff they called "crank" back in the 80s, 90s. Because (theoretically) I didn't see this kind of damage from "recreational use" of a lot of that stuff back then.


There is no real difference. People you knew in the 80's and 90s doing meth likely weren't addicted and were occasional users. I've known people that were using meth for years before going into a downward spiral where they started going on long benders. That messes you up quick.

Big problem I have about drugs is both sides lie. The prohibition side lies, treating every illegal drug are equally harmful. The legalization side does the opposite. Weed is less dangerous than booze. Probably about as harmful as Caffeine. Hallucinogens are a lot safer then anyone will admit. Meth Cocaine and Opiates, are often very bad news. Barbiturates are seriously dangerous. Booze is in the middle, but usage rates are so high it does more damage than all combined.

\Can't smoke weed
\\Cause it makes me stoned
 
2012-12-14 11:51:44 PM  
: ItchyBrother: They never mention to you that the 5-year success rate for the program is less than one percent, and if they claim anything higher they are either lying, or counting the people who died as having been "cured" of their addiction..

AA is anonymous. They don't keep track of who's coming and going, they don't have membership lists, they don't count people or successes or failures. So as another person observed--you don't know WTF you're talking about.
 
2012-12-14 11:55:24 PM  
#23... how does one gain weight on meth?
 
2012-12-15 12:18:41 AM  

dickfreckle: Thanks for the well-wishes, I promise I'll be sober, and probably immediately employed. Either by my own hand or someone who is desperate for help.

My friends are another story. After Katrina many (hell, most) went away for good. But we still enjoy watching the Saints and punching each other for no apparent reason. Yes, that makes me a macho-dick ITG poseur, but that's how it was.

How do I reintegrate to the world after spending 20 years with a strong buzz? How am I going to behave? I've always been a decent guy, but how do you adjust to what seems like a foreign life?

And how in the hell am I going to watch football without beer? It's a crime.


I just want to add my support to your endeavour. You can do this. I lost my father to his alcoholism twelve years ago this month; don't let your Redhead lose you.
 
2012-12-15 12:36:03 AM  

CPT Ethanolic: DrPainMD: he

The results might be the same, but the timeline would be different. Some of those pics are 3-4 years apart. It would take 20 years of heavy drinking to accomplish that level of aging.


Most of those pictures were just good "before" photos and bad "after" photos. I could accomplish that with just about anybody in one sitting.
 
2012-12-15 01:06:32 AM  

cretinbob: Those are burn scars.


Before:
i.imgur.com

After:
www.bbc.co.uk

Falklands war. Not even once.

/Except it worked out pretty well for the residents of the islands.
//And the sheep.
 
2012-12-15 01:26:28 AM  

relcec: you don't die from going cold turkey on meth. which may mean the physiological addiction is stronger with alcohol. people die everyday from quitting drinking or quitting benzos.


[citation needed]
 
2012-12-15 01:42:37 AM  
What no pictures of Esther, the anomaly of a girl that actually got hotter?
cdn.motinetwork.net
 
2012-12-15 01:58:35 AM  

Landis: I just want to add my support to your endeavour. You can do this. I lost my father to his alcoholism twelve years ago this month; don't let your Redhead lose you.


Not happening, bro or sis. Again, I'm trying to cut it off at the pass.

Thank you for the well-wishes.
 
2012-12-15 02:03:25 AM  
 
2012-12-15 07:00:25 AM  
Gah! Don't do this link or thread while eating breakfast..
 
2012-12-15 07:47:58 AM  
Don't "before and after" photo sets imply pairs of photos, one before, one after?

What the hell language do these morons (and subby) speak?
 
2012-12-15 10:45:07 AM  
One last one...

makeagif.com
 
2012-12-15 11:15:02 AM  

gibbon1: Weed not even once


That is truly tragic *sniff*
/wipes tear from eye
:)
 
2012-12-16 05:04:02 PM  
#7:WTF!
#12:I'd hit that
#21:Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. It looks like that THING is farking melting! All the sudden I'm not hungry.
#25:Isn't she on Breaking Bad?
 
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