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2012-12-14 04:46:45 AM  

Mock26: What evidence? Neither you nor anyone else has ever been able to show any real evidence that this supposed god of the christian myth is real. But, since you claim that there is evidence then how about sharing it with us? You are, after all, commanded by your "son of god" to spread the word, right? So enlighten us with this evidence that you claim exists.As for knowing in your heart, what about the millions of Hindus who also know in their heart that their Gods and Goddesses are real? What about the Muslims who know in their heart that their faith is the one true faith? What about the tribal practitioners who know in their hearts that their Gods are real? What about just about everyone of every religion both current and dead that have known in their hearts that their God, Gods and/or Goddesses were real? Do you really think that an ancient Viking warrior who worshipped Odin did not know in his heart that Odin was real? What about an ancient Greek who worshipped Dionysus? Or an Egyptian who worshiped Isis? If the faithful of all religions "know in their hearts" that they are correct then how do you know who is right and who is wrong? Surely there must be something that proves you to be correct and all those others to be wrong, right? I mean, you would not simply be following along because you were raised to do so, right?




The evidence is in the lack of evidence and all of the unexplained things like dark matter. Scientists have no idea what dark matter is because they try to tear everything apart and look at the small pieces but that doesn't show you the big picture which is love. And love is God. The proof exists in something so simple as a banana which is made perfectly for humans to use as a food and the design of the banana does nothing for the tree really but only for us. A banana fits into a human hand perfectly but no other animals and you just can't gloss right pass that and ignore more evidence.

All the other religions worship their "gods" because they feel the presence of God in their hearts like all humans feel him like when you think someone is in the room behind you and you turn around and there is someone there but you didn't hear them so how did you know they were there. Same way with God because he is standing in every room in every corner of the globe next to every person and everybody knows he is there. But some people were taught to call him Allah but that doesn't make it right because the Gospel has been made readily available to everybody by now.
 
2012-12-14 04:51:26 AM  

Mock26: Brian Ryanberger: Mock26: Brian Ryanberger: Mock26: Brian Ryanberger: I see its time to make fun of Christians again on the internet. I'm so glad I didn't take the opportunity to miss it because it is not like it never happens. Someday when you need God and you call out to him maybe he remembers this thread and does not help you but probably he will forgive you and help you anyways because he is a God of Love and Forgiveness which is a brutal lesson all heathens and other people who tease his Word had better learn and learn quick or else it only gets worse from here on out.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha! I love it when christians use the "call out to god" argument! I have been in several near death situations (primary chute malfunction while skydiving, seeing a car run a red light and hit me while I was rollerblading through an intersection, having a loaded gun pointed at me, nearly stepping on a rattlesnake while rappelling), and guess what? Not once have I ever cried out to your supposed god. I do not believe in this supposed god of your superstition, so why do you assume that I would ever call out to it?

As for "his word," got any actual proof that this god of yours is real? And I mean real proof, as in something that can be verified, and not all that silly "the bible says so" or "only a god could create the world" nonsense.


You say you've been there at deaths door and you didn't call out for God but I say you haven't really been there yet if you only had one parachute fail because maybe next time they both fail and what then? You will only know then but God has always known you.

/bsbd

If both chutes were to fail, I would probably call out the names of my cats, because unlike this supposed god of your particular mythology, I know with absolute certainty that my cats are real.

Now, let me ask you something, how do you know that this supposed god that you worship is real? In other words, why are you a christian? Do you have proof? Or is it simply because ...


One of the saddest things I ever heard was this little Muslim chica who was washing dishes and her brother got home early, had some of his friends with him, and "they saw my hair! wut do? wut do?" Ummm, ok. How's about just not belonging to a religion that considers a woman's hair so erotic it must be covered at all times? Just crazy stuff there. If you wanna talk "modesty", don't talk to someone raised by Norwegians, cuz I'll just be standing there, either butt nekkid or in my underpants, look at ya and say "Oh, hey dude" in my chill little Cali chick slang. That girl was seriously distressed. Apparently even seeing a woman's hair is a sin in their religion. A sin on the female.

I shall never understand, just as they shall never understand Heathens or any other faith. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree, just hopefully without bombs and military action.

/a friend's online experience
//I believe her, as she's never lied to me before, or she's very good at lying
///hail Loki?
 
2012-12-14 04:52:58 AM  

Brian Ryanberger: even after I told you he was God


Well shizit, if I'd known you were a prophet I wouldn't have made fun of you. I am totes sorry now.
 
2012-12-14 04:59:27 AM  

Brian Ryanberger: Mock26: What evidence? Neither you nor anyone else has ever been able to show any real evidence that this supposed god of the christian myth is real. But, since you claim that there is evidence then how about sharing it with us? You are, after all, commanded by your "son of god" to spread the word, right? So enlighten us with this evidence that you claim exists.As for knowing in your heart, what about the millions of Hindus who also know in their heart that their Gods and Goddesses are real? What about the Muslims who know in their heart that their faith is the one true faith? What about the tribal practitioners who know in their hearts that their Gods are real? What about just about everyone of every religion both current and dead that have known in their hearts that their God, Gods and/or Goddesses were real? Do you really think that an ancient Viking warrior who worshipped Odin did not know in his heart that Odin was real? What about an ancient Greek who worshipped Dionysus? Or an Egyptian who worshiped Isis? If the faithful of all religions "know in their hearts" that they are correct then how do you know who is right and who is wrong? Surely there must be something that proves you to be correct and all those others to be wrong, right? I mean, you would not simply be following along because you were raised to do so, right?



The evidence is in the lack of evidence and all of the unexplained things like dark matter. Scientists have no idea what dark matter is because they try to tear everything apart and look at the small pieces but that doesn't show you the big picture which is love. And love is God. The proof exists in something so simple as a banana which is made perfectly for humans to use as a food and the design of the banana does nothing for the tree really but only for us. A banana fits into a human hand perfectly but no other animals and you just can't gloss right pass that and ignore more evidence.

All the other religions worship their " ...


Really? You are going to use the Ray Comfort/Kirk Cameron banana argument? If you are going to troll, then please do a better job of it. Try to come up with something better.
 
2012-12-14 05:02:44 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: ///hail Loki?


Hail Thor! I wear a Mjollnir pendant that is an exact copy of a an actual artifact found in Sweden that dates to around 900 AD. I saw it and had to have it!

Oh, did you notice the "if we cannot explain it then it must come from god" argument from the troll? And what about the banana argument? I had such high hopes for him with his Boobies, but even his initial followups were weak and pathetic. Like I said, damned kids just lack dedication these days.
 
2012-12-14 05:02:51 AM  

Brian Ryanberger: a God of Love and Forgiveness


Anyone that uses a phrase like this to refer to the Christian deity, even on the basis of the new testament, obviously hasn't even bothered to skim the bible, making their opinion on the matter about as valid as an illiterate Chinese peasant's opinion of Chaucer.

Plenty of wrath, smiting, and telling followers to be dicks to people, even in just the bits about Jesus. Some of it incredibly arbitrary, like the bit with the fig tree.
 
2012-12-14 05:03:05 AM  

Mock26: Really? You are going to use the Ray Comfort/Kirk Cameron banana argument? If you are going to troll, then please do a better job of it. Try to come up with something better.



There's a video which explains it a lot better than I can you should check this out

Link
 
2012-12-14 05:04:42 AM  

Mock26: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Thank you for that link! That has a purty spear tip and is soooo going up on my wall, next to my other weaponry (that isn't a firearm, of course, those get locked up, except one for home defense, and I'm the only one who knows where it is).

I have never even heard of that site before. I think I shall buy myself a late birfday gift or two. Hmmmm.... what to get, what to get....

I have a bec de corbin (which I do not think they sell any more), a couple of warhammers, a mace, and some clothing items from them. I would suggest that you buy a relatively cheap item first to see if you like the quality, and that spear head is not too expensive. If you like it then order more. Also, I have had some really great customer service help with them. Years ago I was placing an order for a "costume" and the woman on the phone said it was out of stock but that they had just received a shipment in that day. She then put me on hold for 15 minutes while she had the warehouse guys open up some boxes to find the item I was looking for.

And, yeah, when the silly christian pagan tossed out the line about not posting any more because we insulted him my inklings that he was a troll were confirmed. I must say that I am disappointed. Trolls these days just do not have their hearts in it any more. If you are going to carry your troll beyond a single post at least stick to it for more than a half-dozen or so posts! Kids these days have such pathetically short attention spans.


Well, the trolls are probably in mommy or daddy's computer chair and it's past their bed time. We had it easy, dude.Some of us learned the hard way, and kept it going. Toughens you up. It's like the internet version of when your dad would tell you to "walk it off" when you were standing there, bleeding, broken skateboard in hand and an obviously broken arm. A lot of us learned that way, didn't we?

Thanks again for the tip about that website! My son actually collects maces (people collect those? I guess they do) and since his bday is so close to xmas, I wasn't sure what to get him. I'll casually wander up the stairs and examine the collection he already has, and order him a new one he does not already own. I didn't even know they had different types until he gave me a lecture on them one day. Holy moley! I'm also going to rape that site like a Viking on a rampage! YAY! Tenderhearted persons with weapons! 

/will go back to eating avocados and drinking tequila, like a good Cali chick any minute now
//xmas and birfday shopping, almost completed!
 
2012-12-14 05:09:47 AM  
Real Women Drink Akvavit:
I do seriously wonder about teh wimmens who think they are nothing more than baby factories and that is a good thing,

It probably makes life a lot simpler, not expecting a career or accomplishments beyond raising children (not that that's not an accomplishment) and waiting for a man to provide for them and tell them what to do. Knowing exactly what is expected of them without doubt. Hell, I bet a lot of them don't even expect to graduate college (or, in more conservative groups, high school) once they get their Mrs. degree.

Most of us, to be fair, find independence to be scary. They just have a dogma that tells them it will never, ever be expected of them.
 
2012-12-14 05:12:40 AM  

No Such Agency: Real Women Drink Akvavit:
I do seriously wonder about teh wimmens who think they are nothing more than baby factories and that is a good thing,

It probably makes life a lot simpler, not expecting a career or accomplishments beyond raising children (not that that's not an accomplishment) and waiting for a man to provide for them and tell them what to do. Knowing exactly what is expected of them without doubt. Hell, I bet a lot of them don't even expect to graduate college (or, in more conservative groups, high school) once they get their Mrs. degree.

Most of us, to be fair, find independence to be scary. They just have a dogma that tells them it will never, ever be expected of them.



Sorry if there is something men can't do for you ladies it is having babies but that is what makes you special and deserving of security so young can be born.
 
2012-12-14 05:13:09 AM  

El Pachuco: Brian Ryanberger: even after I told you he was God

Well shizit, if I'd known you were a prophet I wouldn't have made fun of you. I am totes sorry now.


lulz
 
2012-12-14 05:14:13 AM  
You know, men wearing pants and women wearing skirts is strange because you'd think men would need more free room and air circulation for the junk so they'd have dibs on the skirt.

Pants are just a conspiracy to lower sperm count and constrict male genitals. Unless you compromise with Hammer pants.
 
2012-12-14 05:14:35 AM  

Mock26: Real Women Drink Akvavit: ///hail Loki?

Hail Thor! I wear a Mjollnir pendant that is an exact copy of a an actual artifact found in Sweden that dates to around 900 AD. I saw it and had to have it!

Oh, did you notice the "if we cannot explain it then it must come from god" argument from the troll? And what about the banana argument? I had such high hopes for him with his Boobies, but even his initial followups were weak and pathetic. Like I said, damned kids just lack dedication these days.


I have bananas in my kitchen right now. The Christian deity must be like totally real, dude. It fits in my hand!

/cracks me up, every time 
//guess how many other places it could probably fit, though that would be totally gross
///unless you're into that kind of thing
 
2012-12-14 05:16:26 AM  

Brian Ryanberger: Mock26: Really? You are going to use the Ray Comfort/Kirk Cameron banana argument? If you are going to troll, then please do a better job of it. Try to come up with something better.


There's a video which explains it a lot better than I can you should check this out

Link


Give it up, dude. You blew it. Do not be so obvious with your troll, and certainly do better research. If you had done some googling into the Comfort/Cameron video you would have found plenty of sites proving just how horribly wrong their claims are. For example, you do know that the banana that they are talking about was created by humans about 150 years ago, right? Before man started cross breeding different types of bananas they were not that shape nor size. And, they all had seeds!

Also, correlation does not prove causation. One can just as easily say that Odin or Zeus or Vishnu created the banana. Just because some nutjob on the internet claims that "god" created it does not make it so. You simply cannot use that type of an argument in your troll because it is such a dead give away.
 
2012-12-14 05:17:13 AM  

Brian Ryanberger: Mock26: Really? You are going to use the Ray Comfort/Kirk Cameron banana argument? If you are going to troll, then please do a better job of it. Try to come up with something better.


There's a video which explains it a lot better than I can you should check this out

Link


Oh yeah, and just for fun, if the banana proves god is real because it the perfect fit for the human hand then who the f*ck was the pineapple created for?
 
2012-12-14 05:18:15 AM  

Mock26: Brian Ryanberger: Mock26: Really? You are going to use the Ray Comfort/Kirk Cameron banana argument? If you are going to troll, then please do a better job of it. Try to come up with something better.


There's a video which explains it a lot better than I can you should check this out

Link

Oh yeah, and just for fun, if the banana proves god is real because it the perfect fit for the human hand then who the f*ck was the pineapple created for?


Really kinky bastards.
 
2012-12-14 05:18:45 AM  

Mock26: furterfan: Brian Ryanberger: I see its time to make fun of Christians again on the internet.

this is Mormons, not christians.



Mormons are christians.


I guess you missed the bit where I said I was a mormon........been there, done that, got the bakers hat and green apron............. i dont need to be told what they believe.


let me guess.... youre a repub, right? got caught up in mittens failed presidential bid and accepted his campaign spiel that 'mormons are Christian...... well take it form an ex-mo...... it aint so, joe
 
2012-12-14 05:18:47 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Mock26: Real Women Drink Akvavit: ///hail Loki?

Hail Thor! I wear a Mjollnir pendant that is an exact copy of a an actual artifact found in Sweden that dates to around 900 AD. I saw it and had to have it!

Oh, did you notice the "if we cannot explain it then it must come from god" argument from the troll? And what about the banana argument? I had such high hopes for him with his Boobies, but even his initial followups were weak and pathetic. Like I said, damned kids just lack dedication these days.

I have bananas in my kitchen right now. The Christian deity must be like totally real, dude. It fits in my hand!

/cracks me up, every time 
//guess how many other places it could probably fit, though that would be totally gross
///unless you're into that kind of thing


Nice thing about bananas, though, is that when you take them out of the wrapper then can fit in four more places! (The ears and nostrils.)
 
2012-12-14 05:19:30 AM  

Mock26: Brian Ryanberger: Mock26: Really? You are going to use the Ray Comfort/Kirk Cameron banana argument? If you are going to troll, then please do a better job of it. Try to come up with something better.


There's a video which explains it a lot better than I can you should check this out

Link

Oh yeah, and just for fun, if the banana proves god is real because it the perfect fit for the human hand then who the f*ck was the pineapple created for?


Hitler
 
2012-12-14 05:20:54 AM  

Brian Ryanberger: No Such Agency: Real Women Drink Akvavit:
I do seriously wonder about teh wimmens who think they are nothing more than baby factories and that is a good thing,

It probably makes life a lot simpler, not expecting a career or accomplishments beyond raising children (not that that's not an accomplishment) and waiting for a man to provide for them and tell them what to do. Knowing exactly what is expected of them without doubt. Hell, I bet a lot of them don't even expect to graduate college (or, in more conservative groups, high school) once they get their Mrs. degree.

Most of us, to be fair, find independence to be scary. They just have a dogma that tells them it will never, ever be expected of them.


Sorry if there is something men can't do for you ladies it is having babies but that is what makes you special and deserving of security so young can be born.


Get a cat or something. They at least don't ask for money or gaming systems.

Well, not usually. 

/cheaper than a kid, and probably not hazardous to the female's life 
//there are a lot things men can't effectively do for women, which is why sex toys are so popular
 
2012-12-14 05:21:34 AM  
Brian Ryanberger:
No Such Agency: Real Women Drink Akvavit:
I do seriously wonder about teh wimmens who think they are nothing more than baby factories and that is a good thing,

It probably makes life a lot simpler, not expecting a career or accomplishments beyond raising children (not that that's not an accomplishment) and waiting for a man to provide for them and tell them what to do. Knowing exactly what is expected of them without doubt. Hell, I bet a lot of them don't even expect to graduate college (or, in more conservative groups, high school) once they get their Mrs. degree.

Most of us, to be fair, find independence to be scary. They just have a dogma that tells them it will never, ever be expected of them.

Sorry if there is something men can't do for you ladies it is having babies but that is what makes you special and deserving of security so young can be born.


Shoo, troll.
 
2012-12-14 05:23:01 AM  
Upset by feminists? Just turn it off!
 
2012-12-14 05:24:32 AM  
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I am pretty loaded right now, but don't monkeys eat bananas also? Don't bananas also fit perfectly in a monkey's hand? Are you then saying monkeys are like humans and you believe in evolution?
 
2012-12-14 05:28:29 AM  

furterfan: Mock26: furterfan: Brian Ryanberger: I see its time to make fun of Christians again on the internet.

this is Mormons, not christians.



Mormons are christians.

I guess you missed the bit where I said I was a mormon........been there, done that, got the bakers hat and green apron............. i dont need to be told what they believe.


let me guess.... youre a repub, right? got caught up in mittens failed presidential bid and accepted his campaign spiel that 'mormons are Christian...... well take it form an ex-mo...... it aint so, joe


Nope. Not a republican.

Mormons worship christ, right? Hades, the official name of their mythology is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! That makes them christian. That is not my opinion. That is fact. You can deny it all you want, but mormons are christians. It is kind of like how many sects of christianity claim that catholics are not christian because they pray to Mary and saints. Sorry, but it does not work that way. Just because they do not believe catholics to be christians does not make it so. Same holds true to you. You can repeat the lie all you want that mormons are not christians, but it does not change reality at all.
 
2012-12-14 05:32:05 AM  

shintochick: Correct me if I'm wrong, because I am pretty loaded right now, but don't monkeys eat bananas also? Don't bananas also fit perfectly in a monkey's hand? Are you then saying monkeys are like humans and you believe in evolution?


So, hail Darwin!

/good point, one I had not thought of before
 
2012-12-14 05:33:38 AM  
Man, you guys are getting played by someone that registered the same day they're trolling.
Even the Politics tab identified him right away.
 
2012-12-14 05:34:09 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: Working now (clearly). Not sure why I was getting a server error earlier.

Were you wearing pants before?

Well, that would be a problem. Wearing pants while online angers the gods of networking.


OK pants off. What's next?
 
2012-12-14 05:38:54 AM  
I'm not sure why, but I get the distinct impression that there were only two or three actually people in this thread. I'm thinking the rest were alts. And I suspect some people here were arguing with their own alts.
 
2012-12-14 05:39:48 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: Man, you guys are getting played by someone that registered the same day they're trolling.
Even the Politics tab identified him right away.


We identified him on Page 1. We are just curious as to how he performs. Also, for me at least, I want to give him some pointers because the quality of trolls seems to have gone downhill this past year. The kids just are not putting the effort into it that they should. It is all that Justin Beiber and One Direction noise that they listen to.
 
2012-12-14 05:41:53 AM  
Where are the pictures of pantless Mormon women?
 
2012-12-14 05:42:47 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Brian Ryanberger: No Such Agency: Real Women Drink Akvavit:
I do seriously wonder about teh wimmens who think they are nothing more than baby factories and that is a good thing,

It probably makes life a lot simpler, not expecting a career or accomplishments beyond raising children (not that that's not an accomplishment) and waiting for a man to provide for them and tell them what to do. Knowing exactly what is expected of them without doubt. Hell, I bet a lot of them don't even expect to graduate college (or, in more conservative groups, high school) once they get their Mrs. degree.

Most of us, to be fair, find independence to be scary. They just have a dogma that tells them it will never, ever be expected of them.


Sorry if there is something men can't do for you ladies it is having babies but that is what makes you special and deserving of security so young can be born.

Get a cat or something. They at least don't ask for money or gaming systems.

Well, not usually. 

/cheaper than a kid, and probably not hazardous to the female's life 
//there are a lot things men can't effectively do for women, which is why sex toys are so popular


They will, however, steal your D&D dice if you leave them unattended while gaming! And, the dice will be hidden for months and months. Then, some day, at 3am. You will get up to go to the bathroom or the kitchen and you will step on a 4-sided die in your bare feet! Or, you will get woken up by the sound of a 20-sider bouncing off the walls! Still, I would not trade by two cats for the hottest christian woman in the world. My cats might be animals, but they are smarter than the average christian.
 
2012-12-14 05:43:23 AM  

nogames2k4: Where are the pictures of pantless Mormon women?


On the BYU website.
 
2012-12-14 05:44:32 AM  

fusillade762: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: Working now (clearly). Not sure why I was getting a server error earlier.

Were you wearing pants before?

Well, that would be a problem. Wearing pants while online angers the gods of networking.

OK pants off. What's next?


You can now see what fits perfectly in your hand.
 
2012-12-14 05:44:34 AM  

fusillade762: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: Working now (clearly). Not sure why I was getting a server error earlier.

Were you wearing pants before?

Well, that would be a problem. Wearing pants while online angers the gods of networking.

OK pants off. What's next?


Shopping at the mall, obviously! While talking about monkeys, bananas, teens and their poor fashion choices and online trolls. Oh, and we gotta hit the Orange Julius place, cuz it is yummy. I like the classic one, no bananas (those should obviously only go in your hand, or ummmm, a few other places they fit) or anything else. Just a wild shopping spree, with free samples and tons of shenanigans.

*squee of delight goes here*

/I got bail money, do you?
 
2012-12-14 05:50:47 AM  

Mock26: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Brian Ryanberger: No Such Agency: Real Women Drink Akvavit:
I do seriously wonder about teh wimmens who think they are nothing more than baby factories and that is a good thing,

It probably makes life a lot simpler, not expecting a career or accomplishments beyond raising children (not that that's not an accomplishment) and waiting for a man to provide for them and tell them what to do. Knowing exactly what is expected of them without doubt. Hell, I bet a lot of them don't even expect to graduate college (or, in more conservative groups, high school) once they get their Mrs. degree.

Most of us, to be fair, find independence to be scary. They just have a dogma that tells them it will never, ever be expected of them.


Sorry if there is something men can't do for you ladies it is having babies but that is what makes you special and deserving of security so young can be born.

Get a cat or something. They at least don't ask for money or gaming systems.

Well, not usually. 

/cheaper than a kid, and probably not hazardous to the female's life 
//there are a lot things men can't effectively do for women, which is why sex toys are so popular

They will, however, steal your D&D dice if you leave them unattended while gaming! And, the dice will be hidden for months and months. Then, some day, at 3am. You will get up to go to the bathroom or the kitchen and you will step on a 4-sided die in your bare feet! Or, you will get woken up by the sound of a 20-sider bouncing off the walls! Still, I would not trade by two cats for the hottest christian woman in the world. My cats might be animals, but they are smarter than the average christian.


Oh, hells no! No one touches my 20 sided die! Even my very gentle son would go after them for that!

Unless it was the GoGo Beastie. As a cat, she gets a free pass. My son also likes cats, cuz he was raised by ME.
 
2012-12-14 05:53:17 AM  

Mock26: Mock26::
Mormons worship christ, right? Hades, the official name of their mythology is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! That makes them christian. That is not my opinion. That is fact. You can deny it all you want, but mormons are christians. It is kind of like how many sects of christianity claim that catholics are not christian because they pray to Mary and saints. Sorry, but it does not work that way. Just because they do not believe catholics to be christians does not make it so. Same holds true to you. You can repeat the lie all you want that mormons are not christians, but it does not change reality at all.


Ah, OK I apologize, I see where you're coming from now

only three sorts of people ever refer to the Morg as Christians

1) Mormons themselves (although, interestingly, at various points in their history, they have sought to distance themselves from Christianity in general, as they do not accept any other denomination as correct.... they even say that all 'Christian' churches are run by people in the pay of 'Satan' - it was a standard part of their temple 'endowment' ritual)

2) people who are deceived or ignorant - most recently, Mittens presidency bid pushed the church to emphasis their christian credentials (they could hardly expect him to win, when everyone regarded them as a cult) - people who know nothing about the church, but see the official name has the title 'Jesus Christ' in it

3) people who assume that anyone who accepts Jesus as the Christ must be christian.....i guess this is where you fit in...............the trouble with this, is that (according to the gospels) Satan accepted Jesus as the Christ............Is Satan a Christian?.....................that's a fun problem to ponder on, isn't it?
 
2012-12-14 06:15:09 AM  
86 comments in a Mormon thread and not a single Romney joke? Wow, he has fallen quickly from the collective awareness.
i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-12-14 06:19:17 AM  
A group of Mormon feminists

I'm having trouble thinking of a less fun group of people...
 
2012-12-14 06:20:46 AM  

furterfan: Mock26: Mock26::
Mormons worship christ, right? Hades, the official name of their mythology is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! That makes them christian. That is not my opinion. That is fact. You can deny it all you want, but mormons are christians. It is kind of like how many sects of christianity claim that catholics are not christian because they pray to Mary and saints. Sorry, but it does not work that way. Just because they do not believe catholics to be christians does not make it so. Same holds true to you. You can repeat the lie all you want that mormons are not christians, but it does not change reality at all.

Ah, OK I apologize, I see where you're coming from now

only three sorts of people ever refer to the Morg as Christians

1) Mormons themselves (although, interestingly, at various points in their history, they have sought to distance themselves from Christianity in general, as they do not accept any other denomination as correct.... they even say that all 'Christian' churches are run by people in the pay of 'Satan' - it was a standard part of their temple 'endowment' ritual)

2) people who are deceived or ignorant - most recently, Mittens presidency bid pushed the church to emphasis their christian credentials (they could hardly expect him to win, when everyone regarded them as a cult) - people who know nothing about the church, but see the official name has the title 'Jesus Christ' in it

3) people who assume that anyone who accepts Jesus as the Christ must be christian.....i guess this is where you fit in...............the trouble with this, is that (according to the gospels) Satan accepted Jesus as the Christ............Is Satan a Christian?.....................that's a fun problem to ponder on, isn't it?


I thought that according to Judaism, Satan was still in heaven, doing their god's will. I will never completely understand any of those faiths. They're all entirely too weird, even for me. 

/also, Catholics do not pray TO Mary and the Saints, they pray THROUGH them, as I have been told
//big diff 
///Satan is a heavy metal album cover icon, as is the concept of "hell" YAY!!!
*starts drunken dance to old heavy metal (Slayer, South of Heaven, of course), cuz why not*
 
2012-12-14 06:31:31 AM  
been faceybookin' for the last few days with my mormon pals about this.
The general thought is that your deity doesn't give a shiat what you wear.
The older gals are more vociferous on this point

Mormonism is strange and has odd beliefs
but it's no stranger than the other popular religions
got some damn decent people who have chosen to worship the invisible
and anything is better than jehovahs witnesses/scientologists
 
2012-12-14 06:32:49 AM  

furterfan: Mock26: Mock26::
Mormons worship christ, right? Hades, the official name of their mythology is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! That makes them christian. That is not my opinion. That is fact. You can deny it all you want, but mormons are christians. It is kind of like how many sects of christianity claim that catholics are not christian because they pray to Mary and saints. Sorry, but it does not work that way. Just because they do not believe catholics to be christians does not make it so. Same holds true to you. You can repeat the lie all you want that mormons are not christians, but it does not change reality at all.

Ah, OK I apologize, I see where you're coming from now

only three sorts of people ever refer to the Morg as Christians

1) Mormons themselves (although, interestingly, at various points in their history, they have sought to distance themselves from Christianity in general, as they do not accept any other denomination as correct.... they even say that all 'Christian' churches are run by people in the pay of 'Satan' - it was a standard part of their temple 'endowment' ritual)

2) people who are deceived or ignorant - most recently, Mittens presidency bid pushed the church to emphasis their christian credentials (they could hardly expect him to win, when everyone regarded them as a cult) - people who know nothing about the church, but see the official name has the title 'Jesus Christ' in it

3) people who assume that anyone who accepts Jesus as the Christ must be christian.....i guess this is where you fit in...............the trouble with this, is that (according to the gospels) Satan accepted Jesus as the Christ............Is Satan a Christian?.....................that's a fun problem to ponder on, isn't it?


I have no personal stake in this (as in not being a christian or mormon or jew or anything else), but I am simply approaching it from an academic point of view. In other words, according to academic definition, Mormonism falls under the heading of nontrinitarian christianity. Talk to any comparative religion professor and they will tell you that mormons are a subsect of christianity. As for satanism, they are not part of christianity because they do not worship christ as the son of god. They may accept him as such, but they do not worship him.

As for the title of the main sect of mormonism, I know that it goes deeper than that. But, jesus is the main figure of the history behind mormonism, what with his traveling to North America to smoke the peace pipe with the Indians and all that. It does not matter if most people consider this to be hogwash, that does not change that the acceptance of christ as the son of god and worshiping him as such is one of the key parts of the definition of being a christian. All that other stuff about Joseph Smith and the seer stone and all that is just window dressing. Just like worshiping Mary and the various saints does not mean that catholics are not christians, wearing special undergarments and believing the lost tribes sailed to America does not mean that mormons are not christians.
 
2012-12-14 06:41:47 AM  
Just wait until they wear some LuLu Lemon... then it will be the end of the world.
 
2012-12-14 06:57:17 AM  

Waldo Pepper: Mock26: Brian Ryanberger: I see its time to make fun of Christians again on the internet. I'm so glad I didn't take the opportunity to miss it because it is not like it never happens. Someday when you need God and you call out to him maybe he remembers this thread and does not help you but probably he will forgive you and help you anyways because he is a God of Love and Forgiveness which is a brutal lesson all heathens and other people who tease his Word had better learn and learn quick or else it only gets worse from here on out.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha! I love it when christians use the "call out to god" argument! I have been in several near death situations (primary chute malfunction while skydiving, seeing a car run a red light and hit me while I was rollerblading through an intersection, having a loaded gun pointed at me, nearly stepping on a rattlesnake while rappelling), and guess what? Not once have I ever cried out to your supposed god. I do not believe in this supposed god of your superstition, so why do you assume that I would ever call out to it?

As for "his word," got any actual proof that this god of yours is real? And I mean real proof, as in something that can be verified, and not all that silly "the bible says so" or "only a god could create the world" nonsense.

I would say that all those times you avoided death is proof of God's blessing on your life and somewhere down the road He has major plans for using you which is why your life has been spared so many times. Of course it is still up to you to listen and come to Christ.

that being said, if you choose not to listen, well I'm sure you understand the position of Pro Choice and the Meaning of Consequence of your choices. Such is both the beauty and horror of free will.


Prove that is was the supposed god of the christian myth who saved my life. And, at the same time, prove that it was not some other God, Goddess, or group of Deities. Simply claiming that it was god is meaningless. I could say that it was proof that Thor was looking out for me. Or Zeus. Or Vishnu. Or Thoth. And my statement would have just as much validity as your own. When you get right down to it all such words are meaningless. All those who believe in a higher would claim that their particular Deity or Deities were looking out for me, and since they cannot all be right how do you know that yours is correct? When you get right down to it faith is, for the most part, merely a matter of childhood conditioning and geography.

Out of curiosity, why do you believe the the supposed god of the christian mythology? Is it because you were raised to believe it? Or perhaps you have been given some sign that proves not only christianity to be correct but your particular sect to be the right one? I do not ask to mock, I really want to know why you follow one particular religion and not any of the others? Surely there must be something there besides just faith or blind acceptance.
 
2012-12-14 07:08:28 AM  
I don't go to church but back when the family did, they were Quaker. I like the way the Quakers did things, I like the attitude. All Christian denominations should strive to be more Quaker. Quiet service until someone is moved to speak. No pressure. No huge rules. Everyone is equal. No fire and brimstone and none of that can't wear pants nonsense. Quaker is the way to go.
 
2012-12-14 07:37:31 AM  

Mock26: Waldo Pepper: Mock26: Brian Ryanberger: I see its time to make fun of Christians again on the internet. I'm so glad I didn't take the opportunity to miss it because it is not like it never happens. Someday when you need God and you call out to him maybe he remembers this thread and does not help you but probably he will forgive you and help you anyways because he is a God of Love and Forgiveness which is a brutal lesson all heathens and other people who tease his Word had better learn and learn quick or else it only gets worse from here on out.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha! I love it when christians use the "call out to god" argument! I have been in several near death situations (primary chute malfunction while skydiving, seeing a car run a red light and hit me while I was rollerblading through an intersection, having a loaded gun pointed at me, nearly stepping on a rattlesnake while rappelling), and guess what? Not once have I ever cried out to your supposed god. I do not believe in this supposed god of your superstition, so why do you assume that I would ever call out to it?

As for "his word," got any actual proof that this god of yours is real? And I mean real proof, as in something that can be verified, and not all that silly "the bible says so" or "only a god could create the world" nonsense.

I would say that all those times you avoided death is proof of God's blessing on your life and somewhere down the road He has major plans for using you which is why your life has been spared so many times. Of course it is still up to you to listen and come to Christ.

that being said, if you choose not to listen, well I'm sure you understand the position of Pro Choice and the Meaning of Consequence of your choices. Such is both the beauty and horror of free will.

Prove that is was the supposed god of the christian myth who saved my life. And, at the same time, prove that it was not some other God, Goddess, or group of Deities. Simply claiming that it was god is ...


If it was a healing thing, it was Eir, a goddess. Yup, they can be all real, which is part of polytheism, I've just never figured out how that would work. Part of the reason I'm an agnostic, though still a Heathen. Works for me.

*starts to ponder, decides to have sudden broomstick battle with her sis in the garage instead, as it is much more entertaining*

/will worry about that kind of thing when I get there and start finding myself saying hails to Lady Hel
//except the broomstick battle, which I'll worry about as soon as I manage to wake up my sis
en garde!
 
2012-12-14 07:40:58 AM  
religion does not work this way. If you dont want to follow the rules of a religion, dont be in that religion.

If your chuch has beliefs that your god wants you to follow certain rules, they then dont get to tell your god no because several of the paritioners want to wear pants.
 
2012-12-14 07:42:25 AM  

Brian Ryanberger: I see its time to make fun of Christians again on the internet. I'm so glad I didn't take the opportunity to miss it because it is not like it never happens. Someday when you need God and you call out to him maybe he remembers this thread and does not help you but probably he will forgive you and help you anyways because he is a God of Love and Forgiveness which is a brutal lesson all heathens and other people who tease his Word had better learn and learn quick or else it only gets worse from here on out.


Except that Mormons aren't Christian. They get the word from Joseph Smith who read some strange tablets out of a hat.
 
2012-12-14 07:50:38 AM  

SithLord: Brian Ryanberger: I see its time to make fun of Christians again on the internet. I'm so glad I didn't take the opportunity to miss it because it is not like it never happens. Someday when you need God and you call out to him maybe he remembers this thread and does not help you but probably he will forgive you and help you anyways because he is a God of Love and Forgiveness which is a brutal lesson all heathens and other people who tease his Word had better learn and learn quick or else it only gets worse from here on out.

Except that Mormons aren't Christian. They get the word from Joseph Smith who read some strange tablets out of a hat.


But, but, but, those tablets were golden!

/laughs herself silly
 
2012-12-14 08:00:30 AM  

Valiente: Jesus apparently frowns on commas and sentence structure.

And bacon and foreskins.


You read my mind.
 
2012-12-14 08:09:31 AM  
Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, or why we died. All that matters is that two stood against many. That's what's important! Valor pleases you, Crom... so grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then to HELL with you!
 
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