If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(LA Times)   Wait, you mean that, as a judge, I should not tell rape victims they should have fought harder? Was that wrong?   (latimesblogs.latimes.com) divider line 92
    More: Dumbass, rape victim, judicial misconduct, Admonition  
•       •       •

10678 clicks; posted to Main » on 13 Dec 2012 at 8:53 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



Voting Results (Smartest)
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Archived thread
2012-12-13 09:34:33 PM
10 votes:

Brian Ryanberger: So now we are going to judge him when we don't even know all the facts he did?


No, no. We're judging him based on the fact that he was either willfully ignorant of or doesn't believe in facts. Crazy, I know. Also, for completely making a bunch of shiat up. Vaginas aren't magic, they are not capable of shutting down in response to any kind of physical trauma... and even if they were, that doesn't change the fact that a forcible, violent act was being performed in order to create said traumatic event.

In short, we're judging him because he's utterly unqualified to hear cases concerning anything more serious than a parking violation. Really, he should be removed from the bench, as someone with such out-of-date, ridiculous ideas does not need to be anywhere near a courtroom. Or other human beings, for that matter.
2012-12-13 09:32:32 PM
8 votes:

Happy Hours: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Thank goodness it's mostly white guys in charge of everything in this country. They're doing a bang-up job.

Yeah, because all white guys think like this judge, right?


No, but clearly a world run by white men only leaves a lot to be desired.

I don't want men to have LESS power than women, or whites to have LESS power than non-whites. I'm just sick of them having MORE.
2012-12-13 08:59:22 PM
6 votes:
"I'm not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something," the judge said, according to documents released Thursday. "If someone doesn't want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case.

"That tells me that the victim in this case, although she wasn't necessarily willing, she didn't put up a fight."

The judge, who has been on the Orange County Superior Court since 2000, also declared the rape "technical," and not "a real, live criminal case."


Execute him.
2012-12-13 08:16:05 PM
6 votes:
I hope one day someone slips a sausage in his bun and then whisper in his ear as the man makes sweet, sweet love to him, "you should have fought harder. Also, the fat on your ass is a pretty damn comfy cushion"
2012-12-13 10:17:27 PM
5 votes:

Brick-House: I have a question ladies and men...

FTFA:
had been convicted of rape, forcible oral copulation, domestic battery, stalking and making threats...

if a guy forcablly puts his penis in your mouth, why would you not simply bite it off? Trust me, he's gonna be a little busy to attack you. And if you keep it, you can give it to the police as evidence.


Serious answer? When you're being assaulted, not every person goes into "attack mode." Some people are in such a state of panic, pain, or confusion that they simply freeze up. Rape victims often report a sense of disembodiement during the assault, that their minds are separated from what's going on with their bodies. It's a psychological escape mechanism and it's very common. Also, this probably wasn't the kind of blowjob performed between two willing people, but the forcible insertion of the assailant's penis into the victims mouth. Again, this is a traumatic, violent act that often leaves the victim disoriented and (sometimes) deprived of oxygen. Lastly, as others have mentioned, biting through a penis with the blunt teeth that humans possess can't be as easy as slasher/torture porn movies suggest. Despite being assaulted, not every person is willing to rip into someone else with their teeth. Besides, considering the nature of the courts--which employ people like this dumbfark judge--who's to say a woman who did do such a thing wouldn't end up in jail herself?
2012-12-13 09:38:33 PM
5 votes:
If I can send food to starving kids simply by clicking links enough, why can't I fire dumbasses the same way?
2012-12-14 12:00:18 AM
4 votes:
What this guy said is horrible and he should be held accountable for it.

But what's also sick is the amount of people claiming rape is horrible then turning around and condoning rape as a valid punishment. Newsflash for you: prison rape is just as bad as any other type of rape. You saw this in the whole Sandusky thing. How many people were rooting for him to get raped in prison. Forced sex is a horrible crime no matter what the circumstance is

/I will be called a rape apologist for pointing out that The people calling for guys like the judge or Sandusky to be raped are just as bad as the judge
2012-12-13 09:23:26 PM
4 votes:
"I'm not a gynecologist..." That, right there? That's where the thought process should have ended, Sir.

/situation is not unbelievable.
//but still... farking unbelievable.
2012-12-13 09:12:42 PM
4 votes:
From TFA

On the day he raped her, prosecutors said, Gurel had threatened to mutilate her face and vagina with a heated screwdriver.

Of course she didn't put up a fight, HE WAS GOING TO BURN HER EYES AND/OR CLIT OUT WITH HEATED METAL IF SHE DID!


And people wonder why I participated in the SlutWalk.
2012-12-13 09:06:37 PM
4 votes:
Just read this outloud to the coworkers in my area of the office. The guy sitting next to me actually got out of his chair, "What the fark?! Where did this happen?!?!" The women here are just shaking their heads and sighing. It's the guys who seemed to be outraged.

But seriously... When is this dumb shiat going to stop? It's like these guys went to bed in 1952 and just woke up today to find the world changed. Seriously... I don't get how this kind of nonsense persists in modern America. Someone please explain?
2012-12-13 11:51:22 PM
3 votes:

ZeroPly: Lsherm: "I'm not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something," the judge said, according to documents released Thursday. "If someone doesn't want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case.

Someone needs to explain to this guy that you can get an erection even if you really, really don't want one.

This is Todd Akin's argument. Was there a book passed around 20 years ago that all these guys read?


I've lived in Missouri 17 years, and I voted for Todd Akin, but mostly because McCaskill is a wolf in sheep's clothing - she claims to be "50 out of 100" on the political spectrum but is firmly on Obama's side...

Yes, we get it. He made a mistake. He did not understand the scientific foundation of what he was talking about. Lots of people don't. If you stopped 10 people in the street and asked them "how old is the Earth?", 9 of those people would not give you an answer that is within the tolerance an establishment scientist would accept.

But that does not mean they are BAD people. Maybe they didn't pay enough attention in school and thought the Earth as 2 million years old, not 4 million. We have scientists to work all that out. The policy makers need to be focussed on what's morally correct, not what the latest $875 a copy journals say...


Wrong. So very, very wrong. The people we elect or who are appointed to positions of power, and who make decisions that directly impact the lives of other people absolutely MUST be held to a higher standard than "What's morally correct," because there is no such thing as Absolute Morals or a Universal Moral Code. Leaving it up to the individual to determine what is moral, in a court of law, utterly defeats the purpose of having a court of LAW in the first place. If you are responsible for passing judgement on cases that involve rape, violent assault, murder, etc., you absolutely MUST be up-to-date with scientific, psychological, and LEGAL information relevant to your area of influence.

Presiding over a rape case and not understanding that the human body has no way of "shutting down" an assault by magic, or Jesus, or whatever is about as irresponsible and dangerous as having someone who doesn't understand DNA testing or forensics presiding over a murder case.

By the way... I find it disgusting that you would somehow equate a situation where a JUDGE accused a rape victim of "not fighting hard enough" and made a point to categorize the case as a "technical rape" with following some kind of moral code in favor of science. The same goes for Akin, regardless of the difference in profession.

Stop trying to "explain away" or justify the insane amounts of ridiculous derp that these people are constantly spewing. There's no excuse for it. It's unacceptable.
2012-12-13 11:29:54 PM
3 votes:
The times they are achangin'. This was a pretty standard (albeit not universal) attitude towards rape not all that long ago. Innumerable rape charges have been overturned by DAs employing the old "it wasn't rape because she didn't fight enough, cry out loudly enough, try to run away, wanted it, was asking for it, etc."

Things that were argued based on "natural law" and Scriptural quotations:

* slavery is natural and God's will
* beating your wife, children, servants, animals within an inch of their lives
* giving a woman a pain killer in childbirth is unnatural because God cursed Eve with the agonies of labour for her part in disobeying his rule on eating apples
* contraception is against natural law (still common)
* abortion is against natural law and God's will and is murder even when the egg is not yet implanted, or is implanted outside the womb, or is merely a mote of protoplasm with no brain, nervous system, heart, etc., and is still endowed with a tail (still common)
* Pater familias has absolute power over his children and wife (wives) as they are chattels and he may kill them without penalty except under certain limited conditions, such as the wife being a member of a very powerful family that might object
* Kings honour their subjects by screwing their wives and daughters
* Kings, lords, masters and husbands rule over their subjects by Divine Right, Law and Will
* The law of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth
* If the other guy rapes your women folk, rape his.
* Women are to be kept in their place even if it means gang rape, murder, throwing acid in their face, etc.
* Men rape because women want it, or because they are provocative, or because they are natural temptresses and wicked sinners, or have no souls. (Hard to explain how a three year old can be a whore, but judges have tried, even in the USA and Canada, two of the more "modern", "liberal", and "democratic" nations.
* There exist people called "witches" who are in league with the Devil and who shall not be suffered to live.
* Torture is a legitimate tool of justice, police work, war, revolution, or mental health care, especially against "non-combattants", a vague group of people who have neither the rights of civilians nor of military personnel.

All of these traditional, conservative, or religious views are still current, especially in some third world countries like Afghanistan, India, etc., but also in the US and other liberal democratic nations (especially in flaky "free sex" practicing religious cults).

Let's face it. Conservatism and tradition are history's junk heap. At each and every point in history, the conservatives have been defending the losing side.

To their eternal (and still present and timely) chagrin, we have allowed women to own property, vote, hold office, get a formal education, go to university, do things with out their husband's permission, enter into contracts, divorce, keep their children in a divorce (even when the husband is the real father), have sex, use contraceptives, have abortions at least under some difficult litmus tests such as rape or a threat to their lives, and even preach the Gospel and become priests.

We have attempted to abolish chattel slavery, wage slavery, debt slavery, sex slavery and the mistreatment of workers. We have allowed workers to form unions to countervail the asymetrical warfare waged upon their health, safety, wages and working conditions by their "natural" lords and masters.

We have even allowed them to strike without penalty, disarming the use of violence, murder, unemployment and retaliation.

In addition to the rights of slaves and women, we have extended human rights to children and to animals. You can be jailed for mistreatment of children that would have been regarded as righteous and pious less than a century ago and which is still practized by untold millions of parents and guardians today.

We have even forbidden many forms of cruelty to animals, whether wild or domestic, destined to slaughter ("humane" slaughter) or kept as toys, pets, or scientific test subjects and spectacles.

In short, every inch or millimeter of progress we have made morally over ape men and medieval peasants has been a product of "liberalism", "democracy", "enlightenment", "modernity", and "science".

Now, it is not as if many conservatives and traditionalists haven't followed the liberal democratic trek from barbarism and despotism. Cotton Mather condemned witches (but used Classical metaphors in his writing, as he had a Classical Education). He also advocated for vaccinations. Not a total monster or a total reactionary, therefore. Of this I am glad for he's in my family tree along with the witches and their accusers and neighbours and friends and enemies.

Billy Graham seemed to have learned something from his trips to Russia. In his old age he was considerably mellowed and more moderate than in his fiery youth and mature years.

And yesterday's liberal insanity is the tradition that conservatives embrace. I speak of real conservatives, those who are merely cautious about adopting new ideas, those who are physically or mentally resistant to novelty and change.

But there is another kind of "conservative" who conserves nothing--not the environment, not lovely old architecture, not even tradition. These people are more radical than many revolutionaries, They exist where the left and right categories meet going around the political circle. They are no good except when, like leftist extremists, they luck out and latch onto an idea so radical that it takes even progressives and liberals many decades or centuries to warm to it and sort the wheat from the chaff.

It may seem self-evident that what this judge has said is bunkum, but thank a liberal or progressive or activist for persuading you that this is so. There are a lot of people who need persuading, and a lot of sociopaths who can not be persuaded, although I am told they are a minority of less than 5% of the population and therefore poor representatives of the human race, even in statistical terms.

To my mind, raping a hooker adds robbery to assault, so I can not accept the "provocative dress and make up" or the "she was a whore" argumen. On the other hand, I know that some women have the morals of a cheap whore and will use accusations as weapons or punishment. Some accused are innocent. You have to assume that a priori and then sort those few out from the guilty or probably guilty. Even men and women accused of molesting children are sometimes maligned by the brats or by some adult who confabulates with the children in question.

Justice doesn't come cheap or easy. Especially when the definition keeps changing, I hope for the better. It doesn't hurt to smack down a stupid judge once in a while. There are, I am sure, many judges who came out of law school in the bottom of their class and many who are as dumb as the "beaks" in a kangaroo court farce. Others err perhaps by being ahead of their time or out-smarting themselves, and yet others are wise and good.

There's no law against the law being an ass.
2012-12-13 11:23:52 PM
3 votes:
ZeroPly



I've lived in Missouri 17 years, and I voted for Todd Akin, but mostly because McCaskill is a wolf in sheep's clothing - she claims to be "50 out of 100" on the political spectrum but is firmly on Obama's side...

If you voted for Akin, for ANY REASON, you deserve a cock punch. Period.
2012-12-13 09:50:51 PM
3 votes:

Brick-House: I have a question ladies and men...

FTFA:
had been convicted of rape, forcible oral copulation, domestic battery, stalking and making threats...

if a guy forcablly puts his penis in your mouth, why would you not simply bite it off? Trust me, he's gonna be a little busy to attack you. And if you keep it, you can give it to the police as evidence.


I will take a stab at this. Although I have never tried it I imagine biting off an erect penis is more difficult than it might seem in the abstract. Human teeth are not like shark teeth so they cannot just slice through flesh. I would bet in the time it takes to exert enough pressure to cause pain the recipient can respond with a blunt or sharp object to the head.
2012-12-13 09:48:54 PM
3 votes:

Brick-House: I have a question ladies and men...

FTFA:
had been convicted of rape, forcible oral copulation, domestic battery, stalking and making threats...

if a guy forcablly puts his penis in your mouth, why would you not simply bite it off? Trust me, he's gonna be a little busy to attack you. And if you keep it, you can give it to the police as evidence.


Well, you could always volunteer to be a victim and let us know? If, you know, the whole being raped thing doesn't cloud your judgment and reactions.
2012-12-13 09:42:55 PM
3 votes:
Could a lawyer use this in a future case to demonstrate bias and demand a new judge? Could a lawyer use this for an older case on appeal to demonstrate bias and get a mistrial?

/Just curious if this could actually amount to more than a shaming
2012-12-13 09:38:51 PM
3 votes:
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom


Actually, sweetheart, no one wondered that at all.

You're seriously going to drag your whiny butthurt from the thread about the black woman's haircut into a thread about a rape victim being threatened with mutilation? You're racist and misogynist.

By the way, I do sleep around. I openly admit to it. I like to fark and i like to fark multiple people. So trying to insult me by calling me a slut is one big fail.

Welcome to ignore.
2012-12-13 09:21:29 PM
3 votes:

lackadaisicalfreakshow: What the hell is wrong with people?


Judges, and other people in authority, are usually two generations removed from current civilised thinking.
2012-12-13 09:13:33 PM
3 votes:
June 2008

Holy shiat, you can't even give him the benefit of the doubt of being brainwashed by right-wing media. He really is just that stupid.
2012-12-13 08:28:49 PM
3 votes:
"I'm not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something," the judge said, according to documents released Thursday. "If someone doesn't want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case.

Someone needs to explain to this guy that you can get an erection even if you really, really don't want one.

This is Todd Akin's argument. Was there a book passed around 20 years ago that all these guys read?
2012-12-14 03:09:48 AM
2 votes:
A lot of it is hindsight, Uchiha. People are looking at an event after the fact, at which point it's very easy to pick apart the series of events that appear, before us, like a neat little narrative. You can point to places in the timeline where the victim could have done "_______" instead. It's like the dramatic irony employed in some books, movies, and plays. The audience knows that the main character is heading toward his or her doom because they were told the outcome of the story at the beginning. What makes the spectacle enjoyable and entertaining is the knowledge that the character doesn't know what is inevitably going to happen.

When we see these stories, we imagine what we might have done differently with the benefit of hindsight. We know there's a date-rapist hanging out at the bar, or that hubby is going to come home angry and drunk, so we make choices that avoid our getting hurt or killed. We don't go there. We don't date him. We don't pick a fight over something trivial. While all of those actions may, in fact, help avoid being assaulted or killed, they're not realistic. Most people have the mindset that bad things don't happen to them, it happens to other people. They're the star of the 'Me' show, and the star can't die or be brutalized, it's unimaginable. So they go about their lives, walking into potentially dangerous situations unprepared or unaware and bad shiat happens all the same. Because there is no 'Me' show, and you are the star of nothing. When you're just going about your day, you have no way of knowing what crazy shiat might be laying in wait. So what are you supposed to do? Stay inside your house 24/7, refusing to interact with other human beings just in case. That's insane.

The other problem is the misconception that abusers/rapists/etc. walk around with gigantic signs advertising their moral shortcomings and pathologies to the public. How could she not know he was a rapist? How could he not know she was all kinds of crazy? Because crazy, violent people often perfect the art of "maintaining" for the benefit of their own sweet selves. If you act crazy or violent, people will avoid you or have you locked up. Where's the fun in that? How did she not know he was going to turn into a controlling, abusive dickbag who passed the evening hours beating the unholy Hell out of her?

Because she wasn't made of magic, you farkwits.

Honestly... I think a lot of it comes from the distrust of rape victims in general. We've been ammending and revising our national definition of "rape" for a long, long time and it was only recently that a husband forcing his wife to have sex was legally recognized as rape. Until then, the simple act of being married was considered legal consent to any (vaginal) sex act demanding by either partner. How you felt on a particular day, how violent your partner was, whether or not you consented to the individual act was moot. You were married and therefore property. How could a wife deny her husband? She's his wife, and therefore he is granted unlimited and unfettered access to her body regardless of her opinion on the matter. It's still a murky, gray area for A LOT of people.

And yes, misogyny plays a part, whether people want to admit it or not. A woman who dresses or acts a certain way is deemed a "slut" and deserves whatever she gets because she was "teasing" or "enticing" her assailant. Men are marginalized as mindless animals incapable of self-control the second a titty or upper thigh is revealed. It's insulting to any civilized, normal human being. I don't want to hear about the "reproductive imperitive" either. Rape and sexual assault have NOTHING to do with biology or sexual desire. Like any violent or abusive act, rape is about power and control, about humiliating your victim. No more, no less.
2012-12-14 01:26:22 AM
2 votes:

Happy Hours: ciberido: And a world in which we no longer judge people by their skin color or gender will be a world in which approximately half of all of the people in power will be women, is that not so?

Someday it will happen. Maybe not in our lifetimes but someday. We're getting there - slowly. If you had told me we'd have a black president now when I first voted I would have said you were crazy. Nobody's going to vote for Jesse Jackson. But Barack Obama is not Jesse Jackson and Americans did vote for him. If I live until the typical life expectancy I expect I will see a woman serving as President before I die.


I appreciate the sentiment but I don't know if I agree.
It has seemed to me, since I started following politics more in depth that there is an aspect of being an aggressive asshole that is necessary to be successful at politics. I agree that there will (and should") be more women in politics but I don't think we will reach parity. I think the proportions will reflect relatively the proportion of men who are aggressive assholes to the portion of women with the same temperament. Then again maybe I'm totally off base and when things calm down a bit on the discrimination and distrust and the good ol' boys front it won't be necessary to act that way anymore and we will reach parity. But while I think we may see a lot more women in power in our lifetimes I think parity will take much, much longer, It will require a multi-generational campaign of improved education and stressing and demonstrating equality.

I think that we won't see significant changes in the way our political system behaves untill we have a better educated populace that both understands how the government works and the issues at hand. Necessarily that level of understanding requires a functional knowledge of civics, government, math, and to a lesser extent science. Our political system has really granted an enormous amount of power to the people with respect to our ability to throw out of office all the chucklefarks at once, anytime we want within every 6 years. If they know that we know they can do that, they will start working towards what is best for the nation AND we will finally start getting politicians that want that too.

Unfortunately that level of education requires significant changes to our public education system. We need to value and pay our teachers well. It should be a sought after and competitive field, not a back-up/last resort for professionals. We also have a little work to do with respect to teaching a subject instead of teaching how to pass tests in subjects. Not to mention textbooks that are intellectually as prestigious as peer reviewed science journals, not written around the suggestions of fundamentalist Texans. The real problem though is that the people in power benefit directly from an ignorant populace to stay in power. Unfortunately it's those same people that control the ability to make these changes made It's going to take a LOT of money, and not just a one-time deal; in perpetuity. It's also going to require a total revamping of the whole system. How we rate teachers, how we rate student's progress, how we structure classes and annual teaching goals. It will take a lot of work to come to a consensus on how these changes should be implemented and what they should be. Again, the people in power can easily stop that from happening.

At the end of the day, I believe that a majority of the problems this nation faces could be solved with a better educated and more enthusiastically politically active populace. But how we get there with out already having that is something I have no answer for, no matter how hard I try. On the upside, the problems this nation faces can be overcome, and really...are not that bad if we really work towards fixing things. We have smart people. hard workers and lots of materials. There are no obstacles on our horizon that are impossible to overcome., there just isn't necessarily the will to work together right now to make sure our issues don't become overwhelming and insurmountable.


\WOW I just wrote MUCH more than I intended when I responded to you.
2012-12-14 12:18:57 AM
2 votes:
Huggermugger


What a moron you are. You think that using a word like 'vaginitis' makes you sound scientific, but you don't take the time to confirm the actual definition of the word. I'm not exactly sure what the concept you were attempting to convey with your faux-pas, but 'vaginitis' means a (generally) chronic infection of the vagina that results in a foul-smelling discharge, frequently accompanied by itching.


Easy there, tiger. I believe he is refering to vaginismus, a painful, involuntary contraction of the pc muscles that makes penetration difficult and painful. 

Save the venom for someone who deserves it, like the Akin supporter.
2012-12-14 12:13:12 AM
2 votes:

amquelbettamin: Fear induced vaginitis and tightening up is real, but a rapist angry enough wont care and shove in there dry and cramped.


What a moron you are. You think that using a word like 'vaginitis' makes you sound scientific, but you don't take the time to confirm the actual definition of the word. I'm not exactly sure what the concept you were attempting to convey with your faux-pas, but 'vaginitis' means a (generally) chronic infection of the vagina that results in a foul-smelling discharge, frequently accompanied by itching.

I can't possibly imagine how fear could "induce" a bacterial infection, but please do enlighten us.
2012-12-14 12:11:44 AM
2 votes:

ZeroPly: So the semantic nuances are lost on you liberals?


no, "us liberals" were pointing out semantic nuances to the tribalistic moron who voted for a woman hating asshole.

ZeroPly: If a conservative says "the abortion doctor living at 237 Crosby Ln, Chesterfield, MO 63017 deserves to die", and someone guns her down in her front yard, that's somehow differerent from the conservative's intent that she die?


now that is a different statement.

I would say "you deserve a cockpunch" and "they deserve to die" are a bit on different levels. Especially since here is no history of people going around giving cockpunches for political reasons, however there is a history of right wing terrorism against women's health providers and centers.


Nuance and context, they're kinda important. Maybe you should actually understand them before you try to lecture others
2012-12-14 12:08:04 AM
2 votes:

ZeroPly: I've lived in Missouri 17 years, and I voted for Todd Akin, but mostly because McCaskill is a wolf in sheep's clothing - she claims to be "50 out of 100" on the political spectrum but is firmly on Obama's side....

Yes, we get it. He made a mistake. He did not understand the scientific foundation of what he was talking about. Lots of people don't. If you stopped 10 people in the street and asked them "how old is the Earth?", 9 of those people would not give you an answer that is within the tolerance an establishment scientist would accept.



he didn't "make a mistake" he made a statement so pants-on-head retarded that I would have called bullshiat on him WHEN I WAS TEN YEARS OLD. Comparing his answer to people being unsure of the age of the earth (ignoring YECs) is completely bullshiat. They might not know that it is 4.2bn years old, but most would know "billions of years old" - that is simply an issue of lack of precision. Akins comment flew in the face of all reality and common sense.

Anyone who voted for Akin is a prime example of exactly why the founding fathers didn't trust the voters enough and created the electoral college. The electoral college was a firewall to prevent reality-hating farkwits from ruining this country.

ZeroPly:
But that does not mean they are BAD people. Maybe they didn't pay enough attention in school and thought the Earth as 2 million years old, not 4 million.


4.2 billion years. repeat that after me. 4.2bn years.


ZeroPly:
We have scientists to work all that out.


we have scientists to do research, and publish that research, and review other peoples research to see if it has errors, and to try to turn research into practice.

That does not allow us to abrogate our responsibility to be educated individuals. Ignorance, tribalism (party before country), and misinformation/propaganda (fox news, anti-science bullshiat, etc) are all cancers upon a democratic society.

You are part of that cancer.

ZeroPly:
The policy makers need to be focussed on what's morally correct, not what the latest $875 a copy journals say...


shiatting on rape victims with your anti-scientific bullshiat (oh which he has a LONG history of making antiscience bullshiat statements) is definitely not the moral thing to do.
2012-12-13 11:53:15 PM
2 votes:

ZeroPly: You threatened to strike me in my gonads


No she didn't, she said you deserve it.
You really don't understand the difference do you?
2012-12-13 10:58:41 PM
2 votes:

NativeDaughter: Brick-House: I have a question ladies and men...

FTFA:
had been convicted of rape, forcible oral copulation, domestic battery, stalking and making threats...

if a guy forcablly puts his penis in your mouth, why would you not simply bite it off? Trust me, he's gonna be a little busy to attack you. And if you keep it, you can give it to the police as evidence.

Serious answer? When you're being assaulted, not every person goes into "attack mode." Some people are in such a state of panic, pain, or confusion that they simply freeze up. Rape victims often report a sense of disembodiement during the assault, that their minds are separated from what's going on with their bodies. It's a psychological escape mechanism and it's very common. Also, this probably wasn't the kind of blowjob performed between two willing people, but the forcible insertion of the assailant's penis into the victims mouth. Again, this is a traumatic, violent act that often leaves the victim disoriented and (sometimes) deprived of oxygen. Lastly, as others have mentioned, biting through a penis with the blunt teeth that humans possess can't be as easy as slasher/torture porn movies suggest. Despite being assaulted, not every person is willing to rip into someone else with their teeth. Besides, considering the nature of the courts--which employ people like this dumbfark judge--who's to say a woman who did do such a thing wouldn't end up in jail herself?


Post-lastly, the angle of attack in forcible fellatio doesn't really lend itself to "biting off a penis." The human jaw is capable of a pretty serious bite when open at a certain angle; but opened wider than that, you lose the leverage needed to bite down with the force needed to sever something as large as a penis. Try it yourself: Attempt to bite through, say, a chicken leg or an ear of corn as opposed to a bratwurst or a hotdog. Also, when having something shoved into your throat, the automatic response is to jerk your head backward, not to clamp down. This is going to again prevent the full force of the jaw from being exerted onto the penis.

Mechanically it's just not likely to happen.
2012-12-13 09:54:23 PM
2 votes:

Brick-House: I have a question ladies and men...

FTFA:
had been convicted of rape, forcible oral copulation, domestic battery, stalking and making threats...

if a guy forcablly puts his penis in your mouth, why would you not simply bite it off? Trust me, he's gonna be a little busy to attack you. And if you keep it, you can give it to the police as evidence.


If someone has a gun or knife nearby, they can still kill you. And I've found throughout the years that getting one's penis bitten off makes people angry and liable to lash out.
2012-12-13 09:42:26 PM
2 votes:
F*ck you, judge.

BTW, you're supposed to tell the Arizona Cardinals that they should have fought harder.
2012-12-13 09:36:06 PM
2 votes:

ciberido: Happy Hours: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Thank goodness it's mostly white guys in charge of everything in this country. They're doing a bang-up job.

Yeah, because all white guys think like this judge, right?

No, but clearly a world run by white men only leaves a lot to be desired.

I don't want men to have LESS power than women, or whites to have LESS power than non-whites. I'm just sick of them having MORE.


I guess non-whites and women should have won more wars over the last 5 centuries.
2012-12-13 09:27:15 PM
2 votes:

Brian Ryanberger: So now we are going to judge him when we don't even know all the facts he did?


He doesn't sound like he knew too many facts himself.

Also, Welcome to Fark
2012-12-13 09:24:54 PM
2 votes:
You know, i don't want this guy raped, but I'd really like him to feel the fear of that possibility.
2012-12-13 09:21:32 PM
2 votes:

freewill: "I'm not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something," the judge said, according to documents released Thursday. "If someone doesn't want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case.

"That tells me that the victim in this case, although she wasn't necessarily willing, she didn't put up a fight."

The judge, who has been on the Orange County Superior Court since 2000, also declared the rape "technical," and not "a real, live criminal case."

Execute him.


with rape
2012-12-13 09:05:30 PM
2 votes:

ambassador_ahab: Molavian: Rape him.

Shall it be "technical rape," "legitimate rape," "God's Will rape," "Rape Rape," or some other type?


Many more to come...50 shades of rape perhaps?
2012-12-13 09:02:31 PM
2 votes:

freewill: "I'm not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something," the judge said, according to documents released Thursday. "If someone doesn't want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case.

"That tells me that the victim in this case, although she wasn't necessarily willing, she didn't put up a fight."

The judge, who has been on the Orange County Superior Court since 2000, also declared the rape "technical," and not "a real, live criminal case."

Execute him.


No, throw him in jail, in the general prisoner community, for about 5 years. Then ask him for his opinion on rape.
2012-12-13 09:00:26 PM
2 votes:
"I'm not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something," the judge said, according to documents released Thursday. "If someone doesn't want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted"

img141.imageshack.us


Maybe it wasn't legitimate rape.
2012-12-13 09:00:06 PM
2 votes:

Apos: "If somebody doesn't want to have intercourse,the body shuts down...."

*Closes eyes* Oh shiat.....It's communicable!


Sigh.... I have to post this ad AGAIN?
2012-12-13 08:57:32 PM
2 votes:
What the hell is wrong with people?
2012-12-13 08:49:39 PM
2 votes:

Apos: "If somebody doesn't want to have intercourse,the body shuts down...."

*Closes eyes* Oh shiat.....It's communicable!



And of course, he receives what amounts to little more than a slap on the wrist for this. Farking sick.
2012-12-13 08:44:47 PM
2 votes:
"If somebody doesn't want to have intercourse,the body shuts down...."

*Closes eyes* Oh shiat.....It's communicable!
2012-12-16 02:37:01 AM
1 votes:
related... I just realized that the judge had been trying to force this poor girl to go through the emotional aftermath I put myself through. That's simply unconscionable, putting the blame on yourself messes you up for a long time.
2012-12-14 07:42:11 PM
1 votes:

IrishFarmer: Uchiha_Cycliste: you are using way too many pronouns and the intent of your sentence/statement is lost. I have no idea who's doing what and why in your post.

I'm tired, so I didn't want to put in much effort. Also I'm a terrible writist.

ciberido: Rape IS (largely) about power

There's absolutely no credibility to this idea. This meme about power started years ago in some second wave feminist book where the author claimed that men, in order to keep women submissive and afraid, would occasionally rape them as a sort of psychological terrorism to keep them under control.

This is stupid. Men are not conspiring together to keep women down via rape. The men who do get off on power are the subset (of all rapists) who are literal psychopaths...though the distinction between those subsets is somewhat vague. But the reasons men rape are varied. Most of them are indirectly tied to sex. You see, because rape is a terrible form of sex, men rape to have sex.

It's not that they want to humiliate a woman or something, it's because they want sex and they have nothing in their brain that tells them that you can't harm another person to get what you want.

Uchiha_Cycliste: Further, I don't think it's that much harder (heh) for men to find sex than women, especially if they are desperate. All it requires is lowering ones standards. I have to agree it is a little easier for a women to have sex with their first or second choice of men, it's not difficult for a man to find a willing partner as long as he's exercises little discretion.

I think we need to take this a bit more seriously than just "lower your standards". A lot of guys get frustrated, not strictly by the lack of sex, but by their lack of ability to get it on terms that other guys are able to get it. Especially when they feel those men aren't "worthy".

This is why betas get so frustrated when they see jerk alphas casually and easily sleeping with women. It's not that betas can't get sex, it's that they're annoyed that th ...


Not sure if you're trolling. Gonna take the bait.

1. There is a lot of credibility to "this idea." There are multiple psychological studies funded by universities, law enforcement, and the federal government studying rape psychology. Do your research before resorting to the "WHARGARBL FEMNAZIS PERSECUTING MEN!!1!" argument.

2. Sex is incidental to Rape. A rapist satisfies a sexual urge through rape, but the act itself is not about sexual interaction. The focus is, like any assault, about hurting, humiliating, and dominating your victim. Claiming that rape isn't about rage or anger is the same as claiming murder isn't rage or anger. Sociopaths kill and rape without emotion, because they don't have any. Other people who kill and rape? Lots of emotions. Most of them the not the sweet and fluffy kind.

3. Men need to get over this "Women fark dickish alpha male farktards all the time, the whores!" idiocy. So what if she does? Women do not OWE you sex, no matter how nice you are. You've just proved the idea of male entitlement. Believe it or not, women are allowed to fark whomever they please. This is not a problem with women. It's a problem with those "nice" beta males who get frustrated when women won't "give them" sex.

And, just for the record, any "beta male" who becomes angry at women for not spreading their legs for him over the "jerk alpha male" isn't a nice guy. He's a jerk dressing himself as a "nice guy" because it's easier to explain why he's not a the top of the heap by convincing himself that "I'm just too nice to be like that." You're not too nice. You're just not willing to go toe-to-toe with the aforementioned "alpha male." Fark you for (once again) blaming women for your own shortcomings and sexual failings.

I'm sick to DEATH of this stereotype that all women are bar-hopping bimbos who fawn over the "bad boy" and won't give the nerdy basement dweller with a heart-of-gold (no, really) the time of day because she's a stupid, vapid, shallow whore who gets wet the second some "alpha male" jerk calls her a dumb biatch. If you can't get laid, maybe... MAYBE the problem lies with YOU and YOUR approach.

But gosh, what am I thinking? Asking grown-ass adults to be introspective and self-critical. How silly.

/back to farking work.
//waking up to that school shooting in CT really farked my head up today
///-sniffle-
2012-12-14 07:05:15 AM
1 votes:

Isildur: NativeDaughter: Sure, I dress a certain way to get attention. That doesn't mean I want to be or deserve to be sexually assaulted. There's a sort of underlying idea of entitlement that is rampant. "If she does this, this, and this... she must want it, and if she doesn't, too bad. She provoked me, and I just reacted."


I wonder if part of the problem is a sort of empathy disconnect, arising from a sort of... I dunno... some sort of culture-instilled exoticization of the other sex, as if they're psychologically some sort of alien species. I wonder if more can be done to teach more kids/teens to understand that members of the opposite sex aren't so vastly different as to exempt one from needing to engage in the natural sort of imagining-yourself-in-the-other-person's-shoes that is normal in social interaction.

A person saying, in actual seriousness, something like "Women... who can understand 'em!" is just... wrong... on some deep level. Obviously there are differences in experiences that can be challenging to mentally bridge, but there are differences in experiences between any two individuals, and one should always be trying (to some extent, at least) to understand other people's emotions and motivations - to abdicate that is irresponsible. No individual should just be mentally thrown in a conceptual bucket labeled "inscrutable" based merely on their sex.


Oh, definitely. In the Sex Offense Registry office, I noticed that almost every man or woman (yes, there are female sex offenders) who came in blamed the victim for their predicament. You almost never heard, "You know, I made a really bad decision and that's why I'm here. I shouldn't have done what I did." These are the people who are out of prison, who the police have to then monitor for however long their Tier group requires (my former state used a tier system, I'm not sure how other states do it). No one ever sat down with them and went through what happened, how their decisions negatively impacted their own lives AND the life or lives of the person or people they assaulted. Every now and then, one would come in who seemed to genuinely regret what they'd done, and who felt terrible for inflicting pain on another person... but they were rare, and you could almost see how the others in the room would regard them as a "traitor." Playing the victim card is easier. They were falsely accused (I'm not saying that some of them weren't, but almost all of them claim to be and that's just not statistically possible), she or he really actually wanted it, they have a drug or substance abuse problem, he or she was asking for it, their mommies didn't love them enough, whatever. Those all may be legitimate issues, but I think it's important that impressing the amount of damage done to their actual victims upon these abusers is somehow being missed in "the process." Great, they went to jail for 6 months, or 5 years, or 20. But they come out angrier and more bitter than when they went in, and that shiat is catching. They don't see themselves as the party responsible for their situation. It was someone else's fault, someone else needs to be the target of their anger, and rage because actually confronting the monstrous thing that they did to another person is too goddamn much.

I also believe that men in particular feel like they're being unfairly lumped in with these "bad guys" and that any criticism or highlighting of the FACT that men seriously assault women far more often than the other way 'round is unfair or another attempt by the man-hating Fem Nazis to convince the world that half of the human race are monsters waiting to strike. We know it's not all of you... not even the vast majority of you. But can you really blame women for being hyper-defensive when sexual assault or sexism is brought into play? How often are women, as an entire gender, declared to be "not as smart as" men? How often is the "new girl" at the office the subject of a "hotness factor" discussion? Why does it seem to not matter how butt fugly a guy is in relation to his professional success or reputation in the office, but the first thing that is usually discussed about a female employee is how hot they are? Is that all we are to you? It grates, and over time, some women learn to tune it out or laugh it off, or they masquerade as "one of the guys" who isn't offended by sexist jokes (how often do you hear a woman say "Pfft, I hate women..."?) Men produce sitcoms where the woman is beautiful and funny and somehow married to a doofus, and then MEN complain that they're portrayed unfairly on television and that all TV husbands are fat slobs lucky to have whatever Victoria Secret supermodel they cast as wifey... Somehow that's still the fault of Women. All of us. Somehow. It's like men feel as though they're losing something... An edge? Control? the upperhand? I don't know, I'm a chick. I guess I wouldn't like it if I felt like I was losing something either, but in the long run, I have to believe it's for the best.

And as much as men like to joke about how "crazy" women are in relationships, it seems to me that it's more often men who have completely psychological breaks when dumped or divorced. It's not often that a woman murders her husband, children, and then herself (yes, I know. It happens, just not OFTEN) because she lost her job or he threatened her with divorce papers... But how often do you see husbands or boyfriends doing this to his girlfriend/wife and their kids? Again, it comes back to that idea of entitlement. "How dare she leave ME. I'll show HER."

But saying any of this out loud or in a discussion is tantamount to being a man-hater. "Women do this stuff too! Look, here's an article proving it!" Yes, I acknowledge that women can be just as cruel as anyone else... but there is no getting around the FACT that men are more often the aggressor. No explanation of "but testosterone!" or "But evolution!" or "But nature!" or especially "But the Bible says....!" explains it away. Men are better and stronger than that. They are not slaves to hormones, history, the environment, religion, or impulse any more than women are and once you get rid of all those crutches you're left with the very difficult question of "Then why does this happen? What is going on that is leading to these kinds of situations?" Personally, I think it comes down to how children are indoctrinated to view themselves and their appropriate "gender role" almost from birth. Girls have girl toys. Boys have their toys. They're color coded and generally follow an old school pattern of "gender appropriate" careers or hobbies. Bless her heart, but my mother would panic when I would reject Barbie dolls in favor of GI Joes, Ninja Turtles, and (my favorite) Ghostbusters. She worried that I would be too "boyish" or -gasp!- even a lesbian. I was like... 5 years old, but these were legitimate concerns to her. I remember one of my male cousins being reprimanded by my uncle for playing with his sister's baby doll when we played "House." "Boys don't take care of the babies, give that back to your sister." My uncle wasn't a Neanderthal. He's a great person and loves his kids, but that's how HE had been conditioned to think. That continues through to adulthood and you get this constructed divide that separates the genders, with each viewing the other as "weird" or even alien. Inscrutable, as you said. For whatever reason, we have a hard time overcoming the conditioning that we experience as children.

So.... education. There's no reason that men and women can't agree that there are things inherently different between the sexes AND that there's nothing wrong with that. Morgan Freeman was once asked why he advocates for an end to Black History month in America. He replied that he doesn't see himself as a Black American. He's just an American. He's a person, and wants to be seen as a person, as Morgan. Not as Black American Morgan Freeman. I get that. I don't want to be seen first as a woman and then as a person. I'm a person. I'm me. Why isn't that enough? Why does either gender cling to this idea that Male or Female is more important than that? We're not on different teams and we're not at war. It's ridiculous. It's getting better (look at how far we've come just in the last 50 years...), but change never comes fast enough for the people eagerly awaiting it's arrival.

/BED TIME.
2012-12-14 06:16:39 AM
1 votes:

Uchiha_Cycliste: I see what you are saying, but do you think local level politics is really a fair comparison to use with respect to national and international politics. To make an analogy: on the local level the D and R monikers are still both totally fair game, and each candidate deserves to be looked at and evaluated on both their words and past actions On the national lever, however an R by your name is poison. My point being that local level is not necessarily a representative microcosm of what is seen at the national level. It's fantastic ` that your city is as equal to parity as an odd number can get. But how long do you think it will be until half of congress and the senate is female too? I wouldn't say there is a gender war, but I would say that men and women are not viewed equally like they should be. And I think there is still a LOT of misogyny on the national level. I mean, look at how the Republicans appear to have a rape party platform these days. I think we are moving towards real equality between the sexes, but we have a long way to go yet .


people pick their poisons and "D' or "R" is going to be poison to some people no matter what. A candidate for the board of regents of a state college on my ballot basically said he tried to be non-partisan but adopted a political party because that was which way the wind blew in this state - and he keeps getting elected. His opponent from the other major party was such a dirtbag that I voted Libertarian for that position and of course he lost.

but getting back to local politics vs. national or international, most of the politicians in Washington didn't just run for their office without being elected to some office on a city or state level first.

I'd really like the GOP to disintegrate even though I do consider myself a conservative. If this rape rhetoric doesn't do it nothing will.

I just don't think Republicans represent conservatives anymore. That may sound odd since I'm in favor of marijuana legalization and gay marriage but I'm also for freedom and smaller government. We may have to raise taxes even though I don't like that idea. I also think we should lower government spending and that includes spending on the military.I think we should have a strong military, but I don't think we need to spend so much on it.

I'm probably sounding a bit like a Democrat now and that probably explains why I voted for more Democrats this past election than I ever have in the past, but I also carefully looked at each race and voted for a lot of 3rd party candidates as well.

And did I mention that we need to work them up from the local level before they get to the White House?

I really do want to see the GOP die off though. They should abandon these rape apologists and the religious nutjobs. It won't be an easy transition but I think it's already starting,

My voting district has a lot of unaffiliated voters even though we do tend to vote Democrat most of the time. I think it's a good sign that a lot of us have not pledged our loyalty to either major party.
2012-12-14 05:29:09 AM
1 votes:

NativeDaughter: Sure, I dress a certain way to get attention. That doesn't mean I want to be or deserve to be sexually assaulted. There's a sort of underlying idea of entitlement that is rampant. "If she does this, this, and this... she must want it, and if she doesn't, too bad. She provoked me, and I just reacted."



I wonder if part of the problem is a sort of empathy disconnect, arising from a sort of... I dunno... some sort of culture-instilled exoticization of the other sex, as if they're psychologically some sort of alien species. I wonder if more can be done to teach more kids/teens to understand that members of the opposite sex aren't so vastly different as to exempt one from needing to engage in the natural sort of imagining-yourself-in-the-other-person's-shoes that is normal in social interaction.

A person saying, in actual seriousness, something like "Women... who can understand 'em!" is just... wrong... on some deep level. Obviously there are differences in experiences that can be challenging to mentally bridge, but there are differences in experiences between any two individuals, and one should always be trying (to some extent, at least) to understand other people's emotions and motivations - to abdicate that is irresponsible. No individual should just be mentally thrown in a conceptual bucket labeled "inscrutable" based merely on their sex.
2012-12-14 04:21:06 AM
1 votes:

Uchiha_Cycliste: \ rambling again.


It sounds like you have pretty good cause to do so. No joke: I think that's one of the most unabashedly sweet, heartfelt posts I've ever seen on Fark. It's somehow kinda... well, heartwarming and inspirational, I guess (even if that sounds silly)... to see such ardent devotion expressed so unreservedly like that, here of all places. Thanks.

/I apologize if I'm being creepy or anything by intruding on the exchange between you two
2012-12-14 03:57:02 AM
1 votes:

Uchiha_Cycliste: WOW I just wrote MUCH more than I intended when I responded to you.


And I read most of it too.

And I'm too lazy to look up numbers, but we're seeing a lot more women in government today than we did 25 years ago. We still don't have a female president but there are female Supreme Court justices and quite a few in Congress and state legislatures and city councils.

And this is how it starts - you get them elected at the lower levels of government before you elect them to the White House. I've been saying this for years about 3rd parties as well.

If you think both Democrats and Republicans are corrupt, are you voting for your city council? A funny thing happened in my town in the last year or so. We voted to ban Medical Marijuana Dispensaries in 2011. Then in 2012 when everyone showed up to vote for president we reversed that ban.

Why is that? Where were all those people in 2011? Too lazy to bother to vote is probably the correct answer. I get it - voting is hard especially if you're not going to vote based on party lines. And when I say voting is hard, I mean researching the candidates/issues is hard. The actual voting part is easy. They send me a ballot in the mail. I simply have to fill it out and return it.

The president isn't the only thing on the ballot, but too many people seem to think it's the only thing that matters and then they biatch and moan that their vote doesn't matter because everyone else in their state is going to vote for the "other guy" or they know their state is going to vote for their candidate for the White House so they don't bother to vote based on that faulty logic.

Bush and Clinton were both governors before they got elected to the White House. Obama was a senator. So not all of us got to vote for or against them early on in their political careers but some of us did - and many of us didn't because they figured it was just for governor or senate.
2012-12-14 03:00:15 AM
1 votes:
I could go on and on and on and share cute stories and cute photos. instead I'll just share a cute photo, and it's extra cute because it wasn't intentional.

i451.photobucket.com
2012-12-14 02:56:48 AM
1 votes:

tinfoil-hat maggie: And that's sweet : )


I'm so wildly and crazily in love with her, and she loves me too, And I've been in love with her for years, and it turned out that she had been just as in love with me and we just never quite shared it. I earnestly think that we are one of those really lucky perfect couples. We compliment each other so well that we don't doubt for a moment that we are soul mates. And it's so awesome to be dating my best friend, we already know everything about each other. Know how to communicate, know what makes the other person happy and an honest desire to follow through on whatever, just to make the other happy. Unfortunately we live 400 miles away from each other =( and that won;t be changing anytime soon, though eventually. But we see each other at least every month. And also I have discovered that since we are a bit separated I get to write her and mail her love letters! and love poems! I even went out and bought really nice stationary and a quill pen and a little ink well, the kinda thing where you need to dip the quill pen into the ink fr every few words, So besides the texts and emails and hone calls, I also write love letter and love poems with a quill pen and snail mail them; kickin' it old school. The little extra effort is totally worth it to make her feel special. And I totally imagine us spending our whole lives in silly puppy dog complete and utter love for each other like high school sweethearts but we've earned the right to act that silly. and I don't think our feelings are ever not going to feel that way.

..
\ rambling again.
\\Love her so much ♥ =D
2012-12-14 02:14:14 AM
1 votes:
Zeroply is trolling everyone, please stop falling for it.

The age of the Earth is actually probably closer to 4.54 billion years.

This judge is a tool. He is suffering from "judgitis" which happens occasionally to people on the bench. A swift and embarrassing reprimand is usually enough to cure or at least temporarily treat the condition. If that fails, removal from office through the constitutional means provided is the next best step.

/That is all.
2012-12-14 12:58:53 AM
1 votes:

ciberido: And a world in which we no longer judge people by their skin color or gender will be a world in which approximately half of all of the people in power will be women, is that not so?


Someday it will happen. Maybe not in our lifetimes but someday. We're getting there - slowly. If you had told me we'd have a black president now when I first voted I would have said you were crazy. Nobody's going to vote for Jesse Jackson. But Barack Obama is not Jesse Jackson and Americans did vote for him. If I live until the typical life expectancy I expect I will see a woman serving as President before I die.
2012-12-13 11:51:15 PM
1 votes:

MeanJean: You're just as farking stupid as Akin if you can't tell the difference.


He said he voted for Akin... are you expecting him to be a Mensa member?
2012-12-13 11:47:42 PM
1 votes:

MeanJean: ZeroPly



I've lived in Missouri 17 years, and I voted for Todd Akin, but mostly because McCaskill is a wolf in sheep's clothing - she claims to be "50 out of 100" on the political spectrum but is firmly on Obama's side...

If you voted for Akin, for ANY REASON, you deserve a cock punch. Period.


I would vote for a hardcore communist over Akin. And I think hardcore communists should be shot on sight.
2012-12-13 11:25:42 PM
1 votes:

Happy Hours: There are problems all over the world and focusing on the sex or race of those in power seems counter-productive to me.

The president of the US is black. The Chancellor of Germany is female - and I guess on a world scale neither the US or Germany are doing that badly. Britain had Margaret Thatcher. Even Pakistan had a female prime minister at one time.

Kim Jong Un is reportedly male (so the Best Korea propaganda tells us) but he's certainly not white and look at the state his country is in.

There are a lot of rich white males in the world, but continuing to judge people by their skin color or gender isn't helping.


I agree with you.

And a world in which we no longer judge people by their skin color or gender will be a world in which approximately half of all of the people in power will be women, is that not so?
2012-12-13 11:09:10 PM
1 votes:

ciberido: Happy Hours: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Thank goodness it's mostly white guys in charge of everything in this country. They're doing a bang-up job.

Yeah, because all white guys think like this judge, right?

No, but clearly a world run by white men only leaves a lot to be desired.

I don't want men to have LESS power than women, or whites to have LESS power than non-whites. I'm just sick of them having MORE.


Somehow I don't think any more minorities in power (be they black, Asian, Hispanic or women) will improve the situation much. Look at Asia, South America and Africa.

There are problems all over the world and focusing on the sex or race of those in power seems counter-productive to me.

The president of the US is black. The Chancellor of Germany is female - and I guess on a world scale neither the US or Germany are doing that badly. Britain had Margaret Thatcher. Even Pakistan had a female prime minister at one time.

Kim Jong Un is reportedly male (so the Best Korea propaganda tells us) but he's certainly not white and look at the state his country is in.

There are a lot of rich white males in the world, but continuing to judge people by their skin color or gender isn't helping.
2012-12-13 10:55:07 PM
1 votes:

MeanJean: By the way, I do sleep around. I openly admit to it. I like to fark and i like to fark multiple people. So trying to insult me by calling me a slut is one big fail.


Do you happen to know who coined the phrase "A slut is a woman with the morals of a man"? If I use it, I would like to be able to attribute it correctly.
2012-12-13 10:34:19 PM
1 votes:
Dafuq did I just read?

I keep thinking it's satire... But... I just can't do this. I'm going back to the pot thread.
2012-12-13 10:21:53 PM
1 votes:
Brick-House.

if a guy forcablly puts his penis in your mouth, why would you not simply bite it off? Trust me, he's gonna be a little busy to attack you. And if you keep it, you can give it to the police as evidence.


I would imagine that the fact that you're probably gagging and struggling to breathe makes it kind of hard to muster the determination it would take to bite down with sufficient force to tear through all that tough flesh, as well as the various connective tissues. That and the sheer panic and shock might make you go into freeze-up mode, which is a common response in any kind of rape, as well as the fear that he'll beat you within an inch of your life the moment he even begins to feel your teeth start to sink in.


That being said, I have read cases where women actually managed to bite it off, but its pretty rare.

In the interests of science, I suggest we buy a raw sheep (or whatever animal has a member closest in size to a human's) penis from a local butcher, and shove it in the judges mouth and see how long it takes for him to bite down.
2012-12-13 10:14:32 PM
1 votes:

Lsherm: "I'm not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something," the judge said, according to documents released Thursday. "If someone doesn't want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case.

Someone needs to explain to this guy that you can get an erection even if you really, really don't want one.

This is Todd Akin's argument. Was there a book passed around 20 years ago that all these guys read?


It's blatantly obvious that this meme is being widely spread amongst the knuckle-dragging old-white-men vermin demographic. Unfortunately, that demographic is highly represented in the judicial, legislative, corporate, and medical communities, which is why it's imperative that they be exposed for the warped poison that they spread.
2012-12-13 10:10:42 PM
1 votes:

Brick-House: I have a question ladies and men...

FTFA:
had been convicted of rape, forcible oral copulation, domestic battery, stalking and making threats...

if a guy forcablly puts his penis in your mouth, why would you not simply bite it off? Trust me, he's gonna be a little busy to attack you. And if you keep it, you can give it to the police as evidence.


Most people would rather comply than get murdered. You'd probably think you were pretty darn clever until they break all of your teeth and then shoot/stab/etc you a couple of times. It might be a consolation to some that they're now running around dickless, but it's just as easy to rape someone with a sawed off chair leg than an actual dick, and the chair leg doesn't have to get tired and go limp after a while.
2012-12-13 10:08:36 PM
1 votes:

DownDaRiver: The judge made this statement in 2008 at the sentancing hearing. But the agency didn't hear about until 2012?
How was someone not screaming from rooftops in front of the press and TV cameras about this when it happened?


You ever been at a sentencing hearing?

Me either. It's not like a simple rape case is packed with news reporters and cameras and legions of people taking copious notes. It's very likely nobody was there but the defendant and the two lawyers. And the attorney did the only thing that could be done: Make a formal complaint to the agency.
2012-12-13 10:03:38 PM
1 votes:
The judge made this statement in 2008 at the sentancing hearing. But the agency didn't hear about until 2012?
How was someone not screaming from rooftops in front of the press and TV cameras about this when it happened?
2012-12-13 09:53:00 PM
1 votes:
How does this guy still have a job?
2012-12-13 09:50:58 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: alcoda: Silly Jesus: ciberido: Happy Hours: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Thank goodness it's mostly white guys in charge of everything in this country. They're doing a bang-up job.

Yeah, because all white guys think like this judge, right?

No, but clearly a world run by white men only leaves a lot to be desired.

I don't want men to have LESS power than women, or whites to have LESS power than non-whites. I'm just sick of them having MORE.

Who's done better?

6/10 Almost got me.

1/8 Nowhere close to getting me.


So, if I'm to take that as an honest question, maybe they've "done better" because for most of this country's history, they were the only ones who could vote.
2012-12-13 09:48:50 PM
1 votes:

XveryYpettyZ: ciberido: Happy Hours: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Thank goodness it's mostly white guys in charge of everything in this country. They're doing a bang-up job.

Yeah, because all white guys think like this judge, right?

No, but clearly a world run by white men only leaves a lot to be desired.

I don't want men to have LESS power than women, or whites to have LESS power than non-whites. I'm just sick of them having MORE.

I guess non-whites and women should have won more wars over the last 5 centuries.


Maybe. Or maybe we should try putting in power people who DON'T settle every issue by waging war over it.
2012-12-13 09:46:22 PM
1 votes:
Ahh yes...Yet another graduate of the Todd Akin School of Asshattery
2012-12-13 09:46:01 PM
1 votes:
I have a question ladies and men...

FTFA:
had been convicted of rape, forcible oral copulation, domestic battery, stalking and making threats...

if a guy forcablly puts his penis in your mouth, why would you not simply bite it off? Trust me, he's gonna be a little busy to attack you. And if you keep it, you can give it to the police as evidence.
2012-12-13 09:41:20 PM
1 votes:

Lsherm: "I'm not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something," the judge said, according to documents released Thursday. "If someone doesn't want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case.

Someone needs to explain to this guy that you can get an erection even if you really, really don't want one.

This is Todd Akin's argument. Was there a book passed around 20 years ago that all these guys read?


"Not a gynecologist"? You... don't... say.

The body "shuts down"? And somehow, what, the vagina closes up and disappears? Is there some sort of zipper here they didn't tell me about in health class? WTF?
2012-12-13 09:40:55 PM
1 votes:

Lsherm: This is Todd Akin's argument.


This sounds like his cousin.
2012-12-13 09:36:31 PM
1 votes:

ciberido: Apos: "If somebody doesn't want to have intercourse,the body shuts down...."

*Closes eyes* Oh shiat.....It's communicable!

Sigh.... I have to post this ad AGAIN?


First time I've seen it.
This was awesome.
2012-12-13 09:31:01 PM
1 votes:
Well I guess it's time for Slutwalk 2: Electric Boogaloo.
2012-12-13 09:25:42 PM
1 votes:
For the record, I have no problem using a dull rusty chainsaw on the rapist's junk, then dip it in alcohol.
2012-12-13 09:24:34 PM
1 votes:

Goetz: Silly Jesus: Does enjoyment mean consent?

You suck at this.


It's not even his first attempt, either.
2012-12-13 09:20:20 PM
1 votes:
Man, that sounds like a line a rapist would use. No means no dude. I hope this dude gets gang-raped by a pack of big foots.
2012-12-13 09:19:09 PM
1 votes:
fark you, asshole.
2012-12-13 09:17:53 PM
1 votes:
What...

Just wow. Wow.
2012-12-13 09:17:09 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Does enjoyment mean consent?


You suck at this.
2012-12-13 09:13:58 PM
1 votes:

MeanJean: From TFA

On the day he raped her, prosecutors said, Gurel had threatened to mutilate her face and vagina with a heated screwdriver.

Of course she didn't put up a fight, HE WAS GOING TO BURN HER EYES AND/OR CLIT OUT WITH HEATED METAL IF SHE DID!


And people wonder why I participated in the SlutWalk.


Actually, sweetheart, no one wondered that at all.
2012-12-13 09:13:16 PM
1 votes:

Molavian: freewill: "I'm not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something," the judge said, according to documents released Thursday. "If someone doesn't want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case.

"That tells me that the victim in this case, although she wasn't necessarily willing, she didn't put up a fight."

The judge, who has been on the Orange County Superior Court since 2000, also declared the rape "technical," and not "a real, live criminal case."

Execute him.

Rape him.


With a chainsaw.
2012-12-13 09:10:59 PM
1 votes:

NativeDaughter: Seriously... I don't get how this kind of nonsense persists in modern America. Someone please explain?


Well creationists, birthers, and flat earthers still exist. You can't really be that surprised.
2012-12-13 09:10:10 PM
1 votes:
i0.kym-cdn.com
2012-12-13 09:08:10 PM
1 votes:
Well I guess we should establish a metric to measure the "fightiness" of a victim. Perhaps someone should contact the The Office of Weights and Measures.
2012-12-13 09:07:29 PM
1 votes:
I don't know about you, but nothing gets me hornier than the threat of facial disfigurement via a hot screwdriver.
2012-12-13 09:07:18 PM
1 votes:

ciberido: Apos: "If somebody doesn't want to have intercourse,the body shuts down...."

*Closes eyes* Oh shiat.....It's communicable!

Sigh.... I have to post this ad AGAIN?


Wow. I'm not sure whether to chuckle or grimace after watching that.
2012-12-13 09:06:26 PM
1 votes:
So, can you get disbarred for not thinking crimes are real?
2012-12-13 09:03:48 PM
1 votes:

ambassador_ahab: Apos: And of course, he receives what amounts to little more than a slap on the wrist for this. Farking sick.

Hey, it's God's Will, alright?


I've heard He works in mysterious ways, so perhaps misguided buffoonery like this serves an important purpose,though I'll be damned if I know what that is.
2012-12-13 09:03:42 PM
1 votes:

Molavian: Rape him.


Shall it be "technical rape," "legitimate rape," "God's Will rape," "Rape Rape," or some other type?
2012-12-13 09:01:53 PM
1 votes:

freewill: "I'm not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something," the judge said, according to documents released Thursday. "If someone doesn't want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case.

"That tells me that the victim in this case, although she wasn't necessarily willing, she didn't put up a fight."

The judge, who has been on the Orange County Superior Court since 2000, also declared the rape "technical," and not "a real, live criminal case."

Execute him.


Rape him.
2012-12-13 08:59:56 PM
1 votes:
Thank goodness it's mostly white guys in charge of everything in this country. They're doing a bang-up job.
2012-12-13 08:59:07 PM
1 votes:
Wow, just wow.
2012-12-13 08:56:16 PM
1 votes:

Apos: And of course, he receives what amounts to little more than a slap on the wrist for this. Farking sick.


Hey, it's God's Will, alright?
 
Displayed 92 of 92 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report