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2012-12-13 08:04:27 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Two party politics is just like one party politics, except that the orbiting parties stabilize each other, so there's no REAL change from the status quo.


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2012-12-13 08:04:27 PM

Karne: Benghazi.

 
DRINK!

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2012-12-13 08:05:26 PM
He should nominate Rice for the Supreme Court
 
2012-12-13 08:05:28 PM

Cletus C.: Pisses me off whenever a politician lies to me. Don't care for embassy or consulate attacks ever. Love all human life, except maybe some murderers, rapists and reality show stars.


What was the lie, again?

You keep forgetting to mention what it was.
 
2012-12-13 08:05:46 PM

whidbey: Is Benghazi a scandal yet?

No, but the derpers f*cked it for everybody.

I can't even imagine the megatons of fake outrage if Susan Rice were sworn in as SOS.


Her stepping down gave credibility to the idea of a scandal. Besides.. Kerrry will be confirmed and Scott Brown will take his seat...lol
 
2012-12-13 08:07:39 PM

Cletus C.: Keizer_Ghidorah: Cletus C.: Keizer_Ghidorah: Marcus Aurelius: But politicians LIED to me! They LIED! And here I trusted them, I thought to myself, "A politician would never LIE to me. SURELY not."

My world is now shattered, and lies broken in a million tiny pieces.

The funny thing is, they only care when a Democrat lies to them. Just like they only care about embassy attacks when a Democrat is in office, and only care about human life when it's still in the woman's body and not quite life yet.

Pisses me off whenever a politician lies to me. Don't care for embassy or consulate attacks ever. Love all human life, except maybe some murderers, rapists and reality show stars.

But thanks for the assumptions.

Hey, you're convinced that Obama has some grand conspiracy in place. Not much we can do to help you. You reject everything told to you except what gels with your views.

Dude, I posted exactly what was said and by whom. I clearly showed my opinions are based on those facts.

I have never called this a grand conspiracy. Just annoying. Also annoying that so many people are willing to defend the indefensible. That so many people are willing to rationalize away reality to support their political views.

I like Obama. But unlike so many, I say it when I have a problem with him, his policies or administration. That's OK to do in this country. We fought a war to end the need to take a knee.


You're still obsessing because "I hate it when people lie to me". And you still think that there's some kind of cover-up or something because she didn't say the 100% exact truth, telling the entire world our secrets and everything we know about what happened and how we're gonna get those responsible. Or is it about what halfof33 and Silly Jesuskeep flipping their shiat about? Did you also hold this level of outrage against Bush Jr for lying about Iraq?

For fark's sake, we're still investigating, we're still going after those responsible, and there was or is no reason to make this big a damned mountain out of this molehill. Everything about this is because the right is desperate to have a weapon to use against Obama.

"The number-one job is to make Obama a one-term president."- McConnell

After a statement like that, and everything the right's done in the last four years, why should we entertain anything they say?
 
2012-12-13 08:09:09 PM

Silly Jesus: I should ask you the same thing, you and others are fighting tooth and nail to prove that he did call it an act of terror. What are you fighting for?

It wouldn't really change anything at this point, but it's principle. Lying to everyone for political gain ain't cool. Ask Pat Tillman's mother. Ask the mothers of the men killed over there. They are concerned. Isn't that enough?


I haven't fought you at all... this is my Boobies on this thread, after all. I just asked you a question. And you answered... it's just about the lie, and you shouldn't lie for political gain concerning an act where people die.

So I have another question to follow up with. When Bush and his administration lied about WMDs in Iraq... would you say that's better or worse than what Obama did? Take into account that Obama's supposed lie was about an attack that killed 4, while Bush's started a war that killed over 4400 US soldiers and wounded 32000 more.

I'm curious as to how much outrage you had over that lie compared to this one. You seem to be wasting a lot of energy over something tragic but small, and not worth you or anyone else's time. If you spent more time arguing over this lie then Bush's lie, you're a pretty farking horrible human being.
 
2012-12-13 08:10:54 PM
Ahhh, got caught with the boobie mod. Oh well.
 
2012-12-13 08:11:03 PM

Spaz-master: Her stepping down gave credibility to the idea of a scandal


No it doesn't. It means the Democrats don't know how to tell the Republicans to STFU.

Kerrry will be confirmed and Scott Brown will take his seat...lol

Oh look. A keyboard warrior who wants to watch the world burn.
 
2012-12-13 08:11:20 PM

Spaz-master: whidbey: Is Benghazi a scandal yet?

No, but the derpers f*cked it for everybody.

I can't even imagine the megatons of fake outrage if Susan Rice were sworn in as SOS.

Her stepping down gave credibility to the idea of a scandal. Besides.. Kerrry will be confirmed and Scott Brown will take his seat...lol


I don't know why everyone's assuming Brown will take the seat. I mean, it wasn't even close and Warren is as liberal as they come.
 
2012-12-13 08:11:39 PM

DamnYankees: Isitoveryet: it's a play on words, Benghazi = Ben Gazzara, you aren't new to FARK, do you have someone helping you?

Is that seriously the entire reason for this meme? Blergh, was hoping for more.

No wonder why I didn't get it. That was one hellova reach for a bad pun.

 
2012-12-13 08:16:01 PM

quiotu: Silly Jesus: I should ask you the same thing, you and others are fighting tooth and nail to prove that he did call it an act of terror. What are you fighting for?

It wouldn't really change anything at this point, but it's principle. Lying to everyone for political gain ain't cool. Ask Pat Tillman's mother. Ask the mothers of the men killed over there. They are concerned. Isn't that enough?

I haven't fought you at all... this is my Boobies on this thread, after all. I just asked you a question. And you answered... it's just about the lie, and you shouldn't lie for political gain concerning an act where people die.

So I have another question to follow up with. When Bush and his administration lied about WMDs in Iraq... would you say that's better or worse than what Obama did? Take into account that Obama's supposed lie was about an attack that killed 4, while Bush's started a war that killed over 4400 US soldiers and wounded 32000 more.

I'm curious as to how much outrage you had over that lie compared to this one. You seem to be wasting a lot of energy over something tragic but small, and not worth you or anyone else's time. If you spent more time arguing over this lie then Bush's lie, you're a pretty farking horrible human being.


Bush's lie was easily far, far worse. I like that you assumed that I would think otherwise though. That's sort of the fark meme. If anyone says anything negative about Obama, blessings be upon him, then they automatically love Bush and hate the gays yadda yadda yadda. Farkers are pretty predictable.
 
2012-12-13 08:16:58 PM

Spaz-master: whidbey: Is Benghazi a scandal yet?

No, but the derpers f*cked it for everybody.

I can't even imagine the megatons of fake outrage if Susan Rice were sworn in as SOS.

Her stepping down gave credibility to the idea of a scandal. Besides.. Kerrry will be confirmed and Scott Brown will take his seat...lol


Everything the left does gives credibility to the idea of a scandal to the right, especially if it's things that directly contradict other things. Obama eating a peanut butter sandwich gives credibility to the idea of a scandal to the right. There not being a scandal gives credibility to the idea of a scandal to the right. The 11 attacks on our embassies and consulates during Bush gives credibility to the idea of a scandal to the right.
 
2012-12-13 08:19:15 PM

Silly Jesus: Bush's lie was easily far, far worse. I like that you assumed that I would think otherwise though. That's sort of the fark meme. If anyone says anything negative about Obama, blessings be upon him, then they automatically love Bush and hate the gays yadda yadda yadda. Farkers are pretty predictable


What was Obama's lie, again?

Please, point it out for the class.
 
2012-12-13 08:19:15 PM

Marcus Aurelius:
He's annoyed the hell out of me since he voted (as a senator) to let the telco's wiretapping violations go away. And to think I had donated to his campaign just before that. And THEN still have to vote for the marther farker.

Two party politics is just like one party politics, except that the orbiting parties stabilize each other, so there's no REAL change from the status quo.


Wah wah wah. Because it's not change that you like, there is no change. Riiight. If Republicans had it there way, there would be no health care reform, social security would be privatized, medicare be a voucher program, there would be ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and possibly Syria and Iran.

Obama is a liberal who governs from the middle. Get use to it.
 
2012-12-13 08:24:59 PM

born_yesterday: moralpanic: Ah Republicans. All that energy spent and on what? She wasn't even nominated yet. So now you look more petty and yet you've gained what?

If they hold up one more nomination, they get a free sub!


Would it be Virginia class?
 
2012-12-13 08:28:48 PM
I'm still not sure what Benghazi is about. Is this like when the previous administration lied about WMDs?
 
2012-12-13 08:29:35 PM

quiotu: So I have another question to follow up with. When Bush and his administration lied about WMDs in Iraq... would you say that's better or worse than what Obama did? Take into account that Obama's supposed lie was about an attack that killed 4, while Bush's started a war that killed over 4400 US soldiers and wounded 32000 more.


I'm a hard- core conservative who opposed the war in Iraq as a waste of time and money, but all the same it wasn't a lie that Iraq had had WMDs at some point; Saddam Hussein had used the same to kill thousands of Kurds with poison gas only fourteen years previously, in 1988. His subsequent stonewalling of international inspectors naturally led others to the conclusion that such weapons had been secretly retained for future offensive purposes (though the refusal to allow the inspections turned out, in the end, to be the result of hyper- defensiveness over their implications for Iraqi national sovereignty; the WMDs themselves had already been destroyed).

None of this, naturally, lets the Obama administration off the hook over its duplicity concerning Benghazi, despite the frantic attempts of Democratic partisans at "whatabouttery".
 
2012-12-13 08:30:43 PM

Silly Jesus: quiotu: Silly Jesus: I should ask you the same thing, you and others are fighting tooth and nail to prove that he did call it an act of terror. What are you fighting for?

It wouldn't really change anything at this point, but it's principle. Lying to everyone for political gain ain't cool. Ask Pat Tillman's mother. Ask the mothers of the men killed over there. They are concerned. Isn't that enough?

I haven't fought you at all... this is my Boobies on this thread, after all. I just asked you a question. And you answered... it's just about the lie, and you shouldn't lie for political gain concerning an act where people die.

So I have another question to follow up with. When Bush and his administration lied about WMDs in Iraq... would you say that's better or worse than what Obama did? Take into account that Obama's supposed lie was about an attack that killed 4, while Bush's started a war that killed over 4400 US soldiers and wounded 32000 more.

I'm curious as to how much outrage you had over that lie compared to this one. You seem to be wasting a lot of energy over something tragic but small, and not worth you or anyone else's time. If you spent more time arguing over this lie then Bush's lie, you're a pretty farking horrible human being.

Bush's lie was easily far, far worse. I like that you assumed that I would think otherwise though. That's sort of the fark meme. If anyone says anything negative about Obama, blessings be upon him, then they automatically love Bush and hate the gays yadda yadda yadda. Farkers are pretty predictable.


I bolded the parts to help you see how I didn't assume anything. It's nice to see your ideals aren't skewed for convenience. But this really isn't a subject you should be stuck on. Just about everyone other than Republicans raging about their defeat have put this matter to bed. The MSM are done with it. Romney was laughed at over it. You're being laughed at over it as well. You should really let this one go... no one agrees with you, not even the normal trolls around here.
 
2012-12-13 08:34:46 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: quiotu: So I have another question to follow up with. When Bush and his administration lied about WMDs in Iraq... would you say that's better or worse than what Obama did? Take into account that Obama's supposed lie was about an attack that killed 4, while Bush's started a war that killed over 4400 US soldiers and wounded 32000 more.

I'm a hard- core conservative who opposed the war in Iraq as a waste of time and money, but all the same it wasn't a lie that Iraq had had WMDs at some point; Saddam Hussein had used the same to kill thousands of Kurds with poison gas only fourteen years previously, in 1988. His subsequent stonewalling of international inspectors naturally led others to the conclusion that such weapons had been secretly retained for future offensive purposes (though the refusal to allow the inspections turned out, in the end, to be the result of hyper- defensiveness over their implications for Iraqi national sovereignty; the WMDs themselves had already been destroyed).

None of this, naturally, lets the Obama administration off the hook over its duplicity concerning Benghazi, despite the frantic attempts of Democratic partisans at "whatabouttery".


Well then I'll ask you the same thing that I asked SJ. So if Obama didn't call it an act of terror earlier, either through bad information or some other reason that wouldn't make sense, what do you want from it? Do you just want to say he lied? Because that's about all you can hope to get... to just point at the TV and go 'See? See?! He lies too!' Yeah... and?
 
2012-12-13 08:35:34 PM
images.politico.com
"Yeah, but what should we do when we are attacked? Pull together, stand united and find the culprits, right?"


www.nydailynews.com
"That sounds like hard work.
Let's just shoot the messenger."


l.yimg.com
"Yes, besides this is like the only card in our deck right now. We could really use one of those senate seats the vast majority of the American public decided to refuse us. Let's shoot the messenger."


i.i.com.com
"You can't be serious?! This is America, we are the most powerful nation on earth. We shouldn't be making political hamburger out of our valuable assets. This is petty and wrong and a complete distraction from real issues."

"You're senior Senators for God's sake. Surely you have more important battles to fight???"



www.slate.com
 
2012-12-13 08:37:49 PM
Fox will drop the Benghazi thing now.

Obama should still nominate her.
 
2012-12-13 08:40:51 PM

Bucky Katt: born_yesterday: moralpanic: Ah Republicans. All that energy spent and on what? She wasn't even nominated yet. So now you look more petty and yet you've gained what?

If they hold up one more nomination, they get a free sub!

Would it be Virginia class?


Nah, the free ones are probably LA class.
 
2012-12-13 08:42:37 PM
The truth is out there - very out there.
 
2012-12-13 08:45:03 PM

Therion: Wow. I finally hit "ignore" on one silly guy, and the comment count drops by fifty.

ah, refreshed.


Is it SJ? I ignored him and all the other references to him and the comment count dropped by 100
 
2012-12-13 08:54:53 PM

Publikwerks: He should nominate Rice for the Supreme Court


I'm pretty sure that ambassadors don't get nommed for the Court.
 
2012-12-13 09:15:06 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: quiotu: So I have another question to follow up with. When Bush and his administration lied about WMDs in Iraq... would you say that's better or worse than what Obama did? Take into account that Obama's supposed lie was about an attack that killed 4, while Bush's started a war that killed over 4400 US soldiers and wounded 32000 more.

I'm a hard- core conservative who opposed the war in Iraq as a waste of time and money, but all the same it wasn't a lie that Iraq had had WMDs at some point; Saddam Hussein had used the same to kill thousands of Kurds with poison gas only fourteen years previously, in 1988. His subsequent stonewalling of international inspectors naturally led others to the conclusion that such weapons had been secretly retained for future offensive purposes (though the refusal to allow the inspections turned out, in the end, to be the result of hyper- defensiveness over their implications for Iraqi national sovereignty; the WMDs themselves had already been destroyed).

None of this, naturally, lets the Obama administration off the hook over its duplicity concerning Benghazi, despite the frantic attempts of Democratic partisans at "whatabouttery".


That is a very astute description of why an appeal to hypocrisy is a fallacy.
 
2012-12-13 09:18:33 PM
They tried to do this to Elizabeth Warren too, so I can only say welcome Senator Rice in 2014. The epic wharrrrgarble would make it more than worth it.
 
2012-12-13 09:25:12 PM
I hear the job of Ambassador to Libya recently opened up. She'd be an excellent choice.
 
2012-12-13 09:26:58 PM

FlashHarry: she gave talking points dictated to her by the CIA. this is her only crime.


And it isn't even THAT big of a deal... We know it was a bad thing, we know it was done by bad people. How much does it actually matter if it was done by angry muslims that saw a video, or angry muslims that refer to themselves as "the base" in arabic?

If a guy stole your car would it really matter that much to you if it was done by someone that saw your car and wanted it, or someone that worked for someone else that organized a chop-shop? Doesn't it just matter that the cops are on the case?

This Benghazi thing is the lamest, dumbest, weakest "scandal" ever.
 
2012-12-13 09:30:10 PM

67 Beetle: I hear the job of Ambassador to Libya recently opened up. She'd be an excellent choice.


THIS
 
2012-12-13 09:30:24 PM
Meh she will be in that position or one like it eventually.. plenty of time to keep her powder dry and plenty of other work to do.
 
2012-12-13 09:38:37 PM

halfof33: We all knew that someone had to take the fall for the incompetency of the Administration.

The claim that it arose out of a protest at the Embassy was pure bullshiat, and they should have known better.

 
2012-12-13 09:43:22 PM

Garble: And it isn't even THAT big of a deal...


But you see she didn't use Fox's approved talking points therefore she's nothing but a low-down, double-dealing, backstabbing, larcenous perverted worm! Hanging's too good for her. Burning's too good for her! She should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!
 
2012-12-13 09:57:17 PM

Marcus Aurelius: "While I deeply regret the unfair and misleading attacks on Susan Rice in recent weeks, her decision demonstrates the strength of her character, and an admirable commitment to rise above the politics of the moment to put our national interests first."

Is Obama the biggest troll in America, or what?

And don't forget what happened after the GOP torpedoed Elisabeth Warren for the Consumer Protection department. She ended up on the Senate banking committee. Something tells me the GOP didn't think their cunning plan all the way through.


This.
 
2012-12-13 09:59:17 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: propasaurus: Obama should do something like appoint her WH Chief of Staff. Make the Republicans go through her if they want to talk to the President.

I LIKE this idea


Seconded; going back to Marcus Aurelius' earlier point, this would be one hell of a troll move.
 
2012-12-13 10:05:54 PM

Rwa2play: MaudlinMutantMollusk: propasaurus: Obama should do something like appoint her WH Chief of Staff. Make the Republicans go through her if they want to talk to the President.

I LIKE this idea

Seconded; going back to Marcus Aurelius' earlier point, this would be one hell of a troll move.


Brilliant. Or she could do as did Elizabeth Warren did. Elizabeth Warren who was also glass-ceiling raped by the womenhating Republicans.
 
2012-12-13 10:20:34 PM

propasaurus: Obama should do something like appoint her WH Chief of Staff. Make the Republicans go through her if they want to talk to the President.


GODDAMN you're evil!

Wanna get married?
 
2012-12-13 10:31:48 PM

halfof33: We all knew that someone had to take the fall for the incompetency of the Administration.

The claim that it arose out of a protest at the Embassy was pure bullshiat, and they should have known better.


Is it fun living in your tiny, deluded world, where nothing is complicated, and facts are unnecessary?
 
2012-12-13 10:39:10 PM

Sid_6.7: halfof33: We all knew that someone had to take the fall for the incompetency of the Administration.

The claim that it arose out of a protest at the Embassy was pure bullshiat, and they should have known better.

Is it fun living in your tiny, deluded world, where nothing is complicated, and facts are unnecessary?


I'm guessing that you won't be coming back after you read the link I posted? Man you really didn't know that was farking wrong, did you.

Fantastic bro. I like you!
 
2012-12-13 10:43:57 PM
If she withdraws her name, the terrorists have won, and I'm not talking about the radical Muslims. I'm talking about the GOP
 
2012-12-13 10:46:01 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Spaz-master: whidbey: Is Benghazi a scandal yet?

No, but the derpers f*cked it for everybody.

I can't even imagine the megatons of fake outrage if Susan Rice were sworn in as SOS.

Her stepping down gave credibility to the idea of a scandal. Besides.. Kerrry will be confirmed and Scott Brown will take his seat...lol

Everything the left does gives credibility to the idea of a scandal to the right, especially if it's things that directly contradict other things. Obama eating a peanut butter sandwich gives credibility to the idea of a scandal to the right. There not being a scandal gives credibility to the idea of a scandal to the right. The 11 attacks on our embassies and consulates during Bush gives credibility to the idea of a scandal to the right.


I mean. at this point, we are facing a repeat of history where at some point the Republicans will finally get one of their derpy "gotcha Prez" moments to stick to the proverbial wall, and we will see a huge waste of Congressional resources that dwarfs anything Kenneth Starr was chair of. Only this time, it's Slick Barry.
 
2012-12-13 10:50:55 PM
So since now Kerry will likely become Sec. of State.... how does that mean the GOP "won" exactly? "Ha-ha, that girl won't be Secretary of State, just the guy who didn't become President last time! We kept him away from power for four whole years! Boy, we sure showed them!"
 
2012-12-13 11:00:23 PM

Gyrfalcon: propasaurus: Obama should do something like appoint her WH Chief of Staff. Make the Republicans go through her if they want to talk to the President.

GODDAMN you're evil!

Wanna get married?


When & where.

/cuz I know you know evil
 
2012-12-13 11:14:37 PM
If Susan Rice opposes the nomination of Susan Rice, does that make her a racist?
 
2012-12-13 11:17:41 PM

Marcus Aurelius: What a terrorist might look like:
[www.veteranstoday.com image 150x200]

 
2012-12-13 11:19:30 PM

Thigvald the Big-Balled: Marcus Aurelius: What a terrorist might look like:
[www.veteranstoday.com image 150x200]


media.washingtonpost.com
 
2012-12-13 11:19:33 PM

Optimus Composite: If Susan Rice opposes the nomination of Susan Rice, does that make her a racist?


you what now?
 
2012-12-13 11:20:09 PM
Wild-card name for SecState: Charlie Crist.
 
2012-12-13 11:24:41 PM
Here's my take on Benghazi: The Republicans wanted to use this attack to show that the president was weak on or unable to fight terrorists. They were upset that the White House and Ambassador Rice down played the nature of the attack. Even though the intelligence community later announced that the attack was planned and not spontaneous, the Republicans were unable to use this for political advantage. Now McCain and his cohorts have taken political revenge on President Obama and Ambassador Rice
 
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