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2012-12-13 06:22:33 PM  

mitchcumstein1: Meant Scott Brown, typed Scott Walker.

But #2 is absolutely right.


My bad, sorry.
 
2012-12-13 06:24:18 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Hmm, ongoing investigation where there was a lot of things to sort through, as well as not wanting to give our enemies information.


Gee, you called me a liar, and now you are spinning.

Yeah you didn't want our enemies knowing that there wasn't a protest at the Embassy that they attacked! Hee hee.

True believers, a pack of freaking Zealots.

But remember folks, I'm the bad guy!
 
2012-12-13 06:24:37 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Silly Jesus: [citation needed]

You're sh*tting us, right?

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe. No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.


He's already had his ass handed to him about this. Probably more than a few times.

He's into the wine coolers again.
 
2012-12-13 06:25:05 PM  
Kerry is also a bad choice.

Swift Boat people don't like him.
 
2012-12-13 06:25:09 PM  
The GOP would happily confirm one of these Democrats for SoS. Can you guess which one?

www.theblaze.com
 
2012-12-13 06:25:41 PM  

halfof33: But remember folks, I'm the bad guy!


No, you're just a dumb guy. Fark is probably not the best place to think you have an engaging hero arc.
 
2012-12-13 06:26:00 PM  

halfof33: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hmm, ongoing investigation where there was a lot of things to sort through, as well as not wanting to give our enemies information.

Gee, you called me a liar, and now you are spinning.

Yeah you didn't want our enemies knowing that there wasn't a protest at the Embassy that they attacked! Hee hee.

True believers, a pack of freaking Zealots.

But remember folks, I'm the bad guy!


Again I would like to offer you the opportunity to explain what harm came from Rice's statement.
 
2012-12-13 06:26:54 PM  

DamnYankees: justme317: Reward? Eff that, I don't care if Huntsman is R or D, I think he's the next best guy for the job. It doesn't hurt that I think he'd have a smooth confirmation process.

No offense, but you're not qualified to know who the next best person is. Neither am I. But I'm also aware that for these kinds of jobs, there's very rarely a list of people in a specific order which actually exists. There is no (i) Susan Rice, (ii) John Huntsman, (iii) Donald Trump. There's always a pool of qualified people, and who you pick depends on the circumstances - who's available, who will accept, what the liekly issues they will face are, how Congress will react, etc. The idea that there's a literal list which is independent of the political nature of the selection is a fantasy.


And then there's the question of whether Huntsman would accept the position. Unfortunately, Huntsman learned a hard lesson as to what Republican voters think about people who work across the aisle.
 
2012-12-13 06:28:14 PM  

EyeballKid: Recess. Appointment.


So long as you're holding over so many classic Dubya moves, why not do this one as well?


My thought exactly. Don't put anyone forward now. The Senate has to adjourn soon enough anyway. Once it does, Clinton can resign and Obama can appoint Rice to the position.

A year from now, either she'll be viewed as a failure in the position, and will resign rather than go through the hearings, or she'll be viewed as a success, and Republicans would be viewed as crazy people (even by their base) for trying to bring up Benghazi when even FOX News has moved on to try to sell 80-90 other controversies by then.
 
2012-12-13 06:29:07 PM  

halfof33: I'm the bad guy!


no not the bad guy but definitely the concerned guy. Unfortunately or not, you've proven that you have an opinion & that opinion is based on opinion.
 
2012-12-13 06:30:01 PM  
So what are the odds that Obama waits until the Senate is in recess and then appoints her anyway?
 
2012-12-13 06:30:29 PM  
Classic patsy.
 
2012-12-13 06:31:52 PM  

acaciaavenue: Classic patsy.


Lazy troll is lazy.
 
2012-12-13 06:31:54 PM  

Silly Jesus: Philip Francis Queeg: halfof33: Marcus Aurelius: ry getting him to respond rationally to a good point.

Try making one, champ.

We lied to the American Public because we wanted the perpetrators to think there was a protest at the Embassy they attacked even though there wasn't one!

lolz

Please detail the harm that you believe came from this lie.

The lie didn't kill anyone, but it's still kinda shiatty to lie to everyone about American deaths for political gain. If they were "terrorist attacks" then Obama looks bad before the election. If they were because of some mean man in California and Obama condemns him, then Obama look good (I guess) before the election.

Sort of a shiatty thing to do to those families.


You sound...concerned.
 
2012-12-13 06:32:22 PM  

thamike: No, you're just a dumb guy. Fark is probably not the best place to think you have an engaging hero arc.


Oh wait, I'm the "dumb guy."

What with my actual quote and links.

CHECK! Thanks, we are all learning so much from the Administration slurpers here.

So much! You guys are also WAY open minded.
 
2012-12-13 06:32:36 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: Silly Jesus: Philip Francis Queeg: halfof33: Marcus Aurelius: ry getting him to respond rationally to a good point.

Try making one, champ.

We lied to the American Public because we wanted the perpetrators to think there was a protest at the Embassy they attacked even though there wasn't one!

lolz

Please detail the harm that you believe came from this lie.

The lie didn't kill anyone, but it's still kinda shiatty to lie to everyone about American deaths for political gain. If they were "terrorist attacks" then Obama looks bad before the election. If they were because of some mean man in California and Obama condemns him, then Obama look good (I guess) before the election.

Sort of a shiatty thing to do to those families.

You sound...concerned.


It's his MO.
 
2012-12-13 06:32:58 PM  
Well, this clears the way for someone competant like John F Kerry.
 
2012-12-13 06:33:44 PM  
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2012-12-13 06:35:29 PM  

thamike: Keizer_Ghidorah: He called it an act of terror the day after it happened, and two days after that. Ne never called it anything else. Others said it wasn't, at the beginning, but they later agreed with him as the investigation went on and the evidence became clear. But Obama himself never said it was anything but an act of terror.

In fact, Romney was the one who blamed it on protests, thought Hillary Clinton's statement about Cairo was Obama's response to Benghazi, and implied that the attack was in Cairo.


You also hit the nail on the head on why the GOP tried to make this a scandal so badly. Because Romney shat the bed in the foreign policy department by jumping the gun way too early and the GOP were frantically searching for a way to bring down Obama on foreign policy as a result in an attempt to do damage control for the Romney campaign...which is how we ended up with this stupid scandal.
 
2012-12-13 06:36:36 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-13 06:37:13 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: JerseyTim: I didn't really care for her and I think the Benghazi scandal was bullpucky. I hope Obama doesn't pick Kerry.

Wouldn't THAT frost their freezers.

What's wrong with Kerry as Secretary of State?


Scott Brown taking Kerry's Senate seat. That's what's wrong.
 
2012-12-13 06:37:27 PM  

biyaaatci: Silly Jesus: He didn't call it that.

I am really sick of your lies.


He said it once in the tenth paragraph of a twelve paragraph statement and in the most vague of terms. It's a bit of a stretch to construe that as him calling this specific attack a terrorist attack rather than summing up our general views at a nation.
 
2012-12-13 06:37:35 PM  
Idiot farking Republicans, just puffing their chests to make sure they still can.

This so-called scandal is the biggest non-story I've seen in years. There is literally nothing to it.

Idiots.
 
2012-12-13 06:37:48 PM  
Is Benghazi a truth yet? I can't keep up with the twists and turns of interpretation, logic and rationalization.

But it's all been great fun. Thanks for the memories, Susan. You took that bullet like a champ.
 
2012-12-13 06:37:58 PM  
I'd like to think that the reason Graham and McCain torpedoed Rice is because Kerry is a buddy and a respected elder statesman, and they want to clear the field for him.

Or they want to free up an open seat in MA for Brown to swoop in and take. One of those.

Either way, I fully believe that the hooplah over Rice's "role" in Benghazi is way too much herping and derping for even the modern GOP.

/forever the optimist
 
2012-12-13 06:38:47 PM  

Taylor Mental: If I were Obama I'd nominate Jesse Jackson just to fark with those morons. The last thing I'd do is give them Kerry, or a conservative to appease the jackasses as some are speculating he might. The prez has taken enough shiat off these assholes the last four years. I think most of us would be really happy to see him give them a figurative "fark you" of some kind.

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Jesse is too busy with the Zimmerman witch-hunt.
 
2012-12-13 06:38:52 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: JerseyTim: Marcus Aurelius: JerseyTim: I didn't really care for her and I think the Benghazi scandal was bullpucky. I hope Obama doesn't pick Kerry.

Wouldn't THAT frost their freezers.

What's wrong with Kerry as Secretary of State?

It opens up his seat for Scott Brown.

True. Kerry's got a lot of seniority in the Senate. Obama can't be absolutely sure who the Governor would replace him with, either. That's a good point.


Mass replaces Senators via election rather than appointment.
 
2012-12-13 06:40:15 PM  

FlashHarry: that's a shame. she had ZERO to do with the benghazi attack. she gave talking points dictated to her by the CIA. this is her only crime. would john mccain and lindsay graham have gone against the CIA were they in her position?


She didn't challenge the information the CIA gave her. That is not leadership. When Bush was told by the CIA that Osama Bin Laden was targeting the US he didn't just roll-over and accept it. When the CIA told Bush that they didn't have anything reliable showing WMD's in Iraq, he challenged it until he got the answers he wanted. That's leadership.
 
2012-12-13 06:40:16 PM  

Silly Jesus: Serious Post on Serious Thread: Silly Jesus: There are consequences for your actions. Adults understand this.

You mean like GOP acts of douchiness having the consequence the entire political party being curb stomped in a national election?

The idiots talking about rape and abortion did that.


So you're saying the idiots talking about rape & abortion weren't Republicans committing acts of douchiness?
 
2012-12-13 06:40:49 PM  

Nordolio: This so-called scandal is the biggest non-story I've seen in years. There is literally nothing to it.

Idiots.


blog.saskatoonrealestate.com

Sounds legit.
 
2012-12-13 06:40:58 PM  

Silly Jesus: biyaaatci: Silly Jesus: He didn't call it that.

I am really sick of your lies.

He said it once in the tenth paragraph of a twelve paragraph statement and in the most vague of terms. It's a bit of a stretch to construe that as him calling this specific attack a terrorist attack rather than summing up our general views at a nation.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-13 06:41:10 PM  

JerseyTim: I didn't really care for her and I think the Benghazi scandal was bullpucky. I hope Obama doesn't pick Kerry.


yeah that would be a mistake and lead to Brown being Senator again next year.
 
2012-12-13 06:41:45 PM  
I really hope John Kerry isn't nominated for the position. That would free up his senate seat for the return of Scott Brown, and we really can't allow that to happen.

Once again, the minority rules in DC.
 
2012-12-13 06:41:45 PM  
Propaganda and smear campaigns work.
 
2012-12-13 06:41:58 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: Silly Jesus: Serious Post on Serious Thread: Silly Jesus: There are consequences for your actions. Adults understand this.

You mean like GOP acts of douchiness having the consequence the entire political party being curb stomped in a national election?

The idiots talking about rape and abortion did that.

So you're saying the idiots talking about rape & abortion weren't Republicans committing acts of douchiness?


I thought you were specifically referring to the Benghazi thing. Sorry for reading your words in context. I won't make that mistake again.
 
2012-12-13 06:42:14 PM  

Silly Jesus: Philip Francis Queeg: halfof33: Marcus Aurelius: ry getting him to respond rationally to a good point.

Try making one, champ.

We lied to the American Public because we wanted the perpetrators to think there was a protest at the Embassy they attacked even though there wasn't one!

lolz

Please detail the harm that you believe came from this lie.

The lie didn't kill anyone, but it's still kinda shiatty to lie to everyone about American deaths for political gain. If they were "terrorist attacks" then Obama looks bad before the election. If they were because of some mean man in California and Obama condemns him, then Obama look good (I guess) before the election.

Sort of a shiatty thing to do to those families.


This is exactly what I don't get about this entire manufactured controversy. In what possible way does a terrorist attack just before our election make Obama look bad? Bush Jr. showed that all you had to do was give a good speech after an attack that you totally missed and you get the highest approval of your Presidency.

And, unlike Bush, Obama actually has an unbelievably good track record of killing terrorists. If Obama wanted to make himself look better before the election, he could have demanded time from all the networks to speak to an issue of national security, and then given a meaningless speech about our country fighting terrorism everywhere in the world, etc. He would have won in an even bigger landslide.

Instead, he tried very hard to avoid the issue, even against Republican criticism. Given the Romney/Ryan ticket's complete lack of foreign policy and national security experience, one might conclude that Obama was putting country before campaign, by not drawing attention to whatever classified shenanigans the CIA was up to over there.
 
2012-12-13 06:43:10 PM  

Silly Jesus: biyaaatci: Silly Jesus: He didn't call it that.

I am really sick of your lies.

He said it once in the tenth paragraph of a twelve paragraph statement and in the most vague of terms. It's a bit of a stretch to construe that as him calling this specific attack a terrorist attack rather than summing up our general views at a nation.


"An act of terror" is the most vague way to refer to it? And halfof33 rants about ME being the one who spins and fibs.
 
2012-12-13 06:43:23 PM  
Obama should nominate Valerie Plame. :)
 
2012-12-13 06:43:27 PM  

BKITU: Silly Jesus: biyaaatci: Silly Jesus: He didn't call it that.

I am really sick of your lies.

He said it once in the tenth paragraph of a twelve paragraph statement and in the most vague of terms. It's a bit of a stretch to construe that as him calling this specific attack a terrorist attack rather than summing up our general views at a nation.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 512x325]


That's not moving the goalposts. I'm maintaining that he wasn't referring to the Benghazi mess as a terrorist attack. How logical would it be to give a speech addressing a just occurred terrorist attack and not mention that it was terrorism until the very end? Wouldn't that sort of be in the opening statement?
 
2012-12-13 06:43:54 PM  

halfof33: Marcus Aurelius: ry getting him to respond rationally to a good point.

Try making one, champ.

We lied to the American Public because we wanted the perpetrators to think there was a protest at the Embassy they attacked even though there wasn't one!

lolz


Strangely, your proof actually disputes your claim. Perhaps you should read it yourself.
 
2012-12-13 06:44:39 PM  

rotsky: I liked lyked her. *sigh*


/Sorry, pet peeve.
 
2012-12-13 06:45:23 PM  

Silly Jesus: BKITU: Silly Jesus: biyaaatci: Silly Jesus: He didn't call it that.

I am really sick of your lies.

He said it once in the tenth paragraph of a twelve paragraph statement and in the most vague of terms. It's a bit of a stretch to construe that as him calling this specific attack a terrorist attack rather than summing up our general views at a nation.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 512x325]

That's not moving the goalposts. I'm maintaining that he wasn't referring to the Benghazi mess as a terrorist attack. How logical would it be to give a speech addressing a just occurred terrorist attack and not mention that it was terrorism until the very end? Wouldn't that sort of be in the opening statement?


Man this troll is still on fark? I thought it left because of embarrassment.
 
2012-12-13 06:46:03 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Silly Jesus: biyaaatci: Silly Jesus: He didn't call it that.

I am really sick of your lies.

He said it once in the tenth paragraph of a twelve paragraph statement and in the most vague of terms. It's a bit of a stretch to construe that as him calling this specific attack a terrorist attack rather than summing up our general views at a nation.

"An act of terror" is the most vague way to refer to it? And halfof33 rants about ME being the one who spins and fibs.


If you were addressing the nation about a terrorist attack that just occurred, and your speech was 12 paragraphs long, would you put the one and only mention of terror in the tenth paragraph? It's sort of the topic. That's how you learn to write papers in the second grade. You open with the topic. It was a throw away line toward the end of a fluff piece.
 
2012-12-13 06:46:51 PM  

beta_plus: FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK THE LORD ALMIGHTY CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED SPEECH CRITICIZING RELIGION IS FREE AT LAST!!!!!

Oh wait ...

[www.humanevents.com image 620x436]

/HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA A AAAA!
//Your tears of impotent liberal rage - THEY FEED ME!
///This plus Michigan is Right To Work - Christmas came early this year!


Wrong thread, Sparky?

halfof33: Nordolio: This so-called scandal is the biggest non-story I've seen in years. There is literally nothing to it.

Idiots.

[blog.saskatoonrealestate.com image 300x158]

Sounds legit.


You haven't been able to prove it's a scandal, and neither has any other anti-Obama crackpot. You can't tell us how the "lie" harmed us, every time someone asks you to you either ignore it or scream :It's so OBVIOUS, why do you trolls ignore it?!" or personally attack the person asking.
 
2012-12-13 06:47:05 PM  

Halli: Silly Jesus: BKITU: Silly Jesus: biyaaatci: Silly Jesus: He didn't call it that.

I am really sick of your lies.

He said it once in the tenth paragraph of a twelve paragraph statement and in the most vague of terms. It's a bit of a stretch to construe that as him calling this specific attack a terrorist attack rather than summing up our general views at a nation.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 512x325]

That's not moving the goalposts. I'm maintaining that he wasn't referring to the Benghazi mess as a terrorist attack. How logical would it be to give a speech addressing a just occurred terrorist attack and not mention that it was terrorism until the very end? Wouldn't that sort of be in the opening statement?

Man this troll is still on fark? I thought it left because of embarrassment.


You live in Iceland.
 
2012-12-13 06:47:36 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: And halfof33 rants about ME being the one who spins and fibs.


Rants? Hmm. Not a rant:

halfof33: Gee, you called me a liar, and now you are spinning.


A rant:

Keizer_Ghidorah: Yet neither you nor anyone else has ever shown any proof of this "fact". All you do is scream debunked talking points and outright lies.


/say is it hard to pat yourself on the back while you are up on your cross?
 
2012-12-13 06:47:49 PM  
Sounds legit.

The Benghazi scandal is as legit as "Obamacare death panels" and "you didn't built that" hyperventilating. Its called making shiat up. And then making a mountain out of that molehill of shiat.
 
2012-12-13 06:47:54 PM  
Nominate John McCain.

Confirmation!

Fire him on his first day.
 
2012-12-13 06:48:45 PM  

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: BKITU: Silly Jesus: biyaaatci: Silly Jesus: He didn't call it that.

I am really sick of your lies.

He said it once in the tenth paragraph of a twelve paragraph statement and in the most vague of terms. It's a bit of a stretch to construe that as him calling this specific attack a terrorist attack rather than summing up our general views at a nation.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 512x325]

That's not moving the goalposts. I'm maintaining that he wasn't referring to the Benghazi mess as a terrorist attack. How logical would it be to give a speech addressing a just occurred terrorist attack and not mention that it was terrorism until the very end? Wouldn't that sort of be in the opening statement?

Man this troll is still on fark? I thought it left because of embarrassment.

You live in Iceland.


And you got outed some time ago.
 
2012-12-13 06:48:48 PM  

Silly Jesus: Keizer_Ghidorah: Silly Jesus: biyaaatci: Silly Jesus: He didn't call it that.

I am really sick of your lies.

He said it once in the tenth paragraph of a twelve paragraph statement and in the most vague of terms. It's a bit of a stretch to construe that as him calling this specific attack a terrorist attack rather than summing up our general views at a nation.

"An act of terror" is the most vague way to refer to it? And halfof33 rants about ME being the one who spins and fibs.

If you were addressing the nation about a terrorist attack that just occurred, and your speech was 12 paragraphs long, would you put the one and only mention of terror in the tenth paragraph? It's sort of the topic. That's how you learn to write papers in the second grade. You open with the topic. It was a throw away line toward the end of a fluff piece.


so now all you got is that he didn't place enough emphasis on it? that's weak sauce
 
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