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(CNN)   Obama, the first president since Eisenhower to win 51% twice, will exploit his mandate by appointing a Republican as Secretary of Defense   (politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 221
    More: Stupid, Chuck Hagel, human beings, Republican Sen, obama, Atlantic Council, Ted Strickland, Vice President Joe Biden, Leon Panetta  
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2012-12-13 02:11:01 PM  
Uhm, Gates was a Republican. Just saying.
 
2012-12-13 02:13:05 PM  
If it's the right person for the job, who gives a fark?

Clinton's SecDef was a Republican.

Only Republicans stick to the party line no matter what.
 
2012-12-13 02:13:13 PM  
Chuck Hegal or Richard Lugar?
 
2012-12-13 02:13:30 PM  
AdolfOliverPanties: If it's the right person for the job, who gives a fark?
 
2012-12-13 02:15:47 PM  
[Hagel] opposed President George W. Bush's decision to invade Iraq

Good enough for me.
 
2012-12-13 02:16:40 PM  
That's classic Obama socialism, giving handouts to groups that don't deserve it.
 
2012-12-13 02:19:30 PM  
Everyone loves war.
 
2012-12-13 02:22:55 PM  
While serving during the Vietnam War, Hagel received the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry, two Purple Hearts, Army Commendation Medal, and the Combat Infantryman Badge.

Works for me.
 
2012-12-13 02:33:08 PM  
I would support this. Hagal has always seemed like a decent guy.
 
2012-12-13 03:09:17 PM  
so what?
 
2012-12-13 03:38:41 PM  

WhoIsWillo: Chuck Hegal or Richard Lugar?


I wouldn't be cool with Lugar, but Hegal is...eh, but I'm OK with it. I guess I figured Rice would get State and then Kerry would get Defense.
 
2012-12-13 03:54:45 PM  

GAT_00: WhoIsWillo: Chuck Hegal or Richard Lugar?

I wouldn't be cool with Lugar, but Hegal is...eh, but I'm OK with it. I guess I figured Rice would get State and then Kerry would get Defense.


I would be fine with Lugar in State, not defense. I imagine he'd be happier (and more effective) as a UnderSecretary
 
2012-12-13 04:07:14 PM  
I don't care about affiliation. I care about competency.
 
2012-12-13 04:20:28 PM  

WhoIsWillo: GAT_00: WhoIsWillo: Chuck Hegal or Richard Lugar?

I wouldn't be cool with Lugar, but Hegal is...eh, but I'm OK with it. I guess I figured Rice would get State and then Kerry would get Defense.

I would be fine with Lugar in State, not defense. I imagine he'd be happier (and more effective) as a UnderSecretary


Well, Rice just withdrew her nomination, so that's why Kerry isn't getting Defense and Hegal is. Kerry is going to be SecState.
 
2012-12-13 05:01:49 PM  

Blues_X: AdolfOliverPanties: If it's the right person for the job, who gives a fark?

 
2012-12-13 05:18:08 PM  
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I actually met both Panetta and Hagel in 2008 at a "Panetta Lecture Series." I asked them (and former FL Senator Graham) their take on signing statements. Hagel's answer was pretty solid, with a great deal of centrist overtones (remember, this was the 4th quarter of Bush II, Electric Boogaloo). That aside, he was not afraid to speak his mind about the mistake of invading Iraq--something I think should be a prerequisite for the position for a generation.

Anyway, he came across as quite moderate; something we need in DoD. Not to mention, a Republican SECDEF can really help take the edge of defense cuts to the R's in Congress.

/CSB
 
2012-12-13 05:18:14 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: If it's the right person for the job, who gives a fark?

.

 
2012-12-13 05:19:43 PM  
Cool, we have a president that doesn't use partisanship to guide him on every tiny decision.
 
2012-12-13 05:26:21 PM  
Someone should check the right wing blogs to see if they're calling this guy a RINO for not spitting in Obama's face and refusing the job.
 
2012-12-13 05:29:33 PM  
Is Donald Rumsfeld back?!
 
2012-12-13 05:32:55 PM  
It's not like he picked some Tea Party idiot. There's no reason that a Republican can't be the right person for the job. Unfortunately for this guy, he'll be Republican persona non grata for daring to work with the President.
 
2012-12-13 05:35:23 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: If it's the right person for the job, who gives a fark?


dickfreckle: I don't care about affiliation. I care about competency.


These.

In addition, there's a very good chance that this, plus Rice's "declining" the SecState appointment, is simply logrolling between the Administration and Senate Republicans to ensure that Obama's next SecState appointment doesn't get shiatcanned by filibuster.
 
2012-12-13 05:37:35 PM  
Matt Yglesias @mattyglesias
Obama rarely misses an opportunity to show adversaries that irrational hostility will be catered too rather than punished.
 
2012-12-13 06:08:10 PM  
Who the fark cares? If he has a mandate, spend it on something meaningful.
 
2012-12-13 06:17:20 PM  
iamokaywiththis.gif
 
2012-12-13 06:22:02 PM  

GAT_00: WhoIsWillo: GAT_00: WhoIsWillo: Chuck Hegal or Richard Lugar?

I wouldn't be cool with Lugar, but Hegal is...eh, but I'm OK with it. I guess I figured Rice would get State and then Kerry would get Defense.

I would be fine with Lugar in State, not defense. I imagine he'd be happier (and more effective) as a UnderSecretary

Well, Rice just withdrew her nomination, so that's why Kerry isn't getting Defense and Hegal is. Kerry is going to be SecState.


If that's the case then it seems the GOP got what they wanted by making a big stink out of the possibility of a Rice nomination. Now they'll have a chance to pick up Kerry's senate seat.
 
2012-12-13 06:26:57 PM  

Mentat: Who the fark cares? If he has a mandate, spend it on something meaningful.


I have taken the liberty of quoting the above material generated by another user of this site. I have only slightly modified it to emphasize that part that I believe to be especially important.

AdolfOliverPanties: If it's the right person for the job, who gives a fark?

Also, TRUE DAT.
 
2012-12-13 06:29:07 PM  
OK...So?

Am I supposed to be outraged or something?
 
2012-12-13 06:29:22 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Someone should check the right wing blogs to see if they're calling this guy a RINO for not spitting in Obama's face and refusing the job.



FTFA:
Hagel, who serves as the co-chair of the president's Intelligence Advisory Board, is someone well-known to the president. He crossed party lines to endorse Obama for president in 2008, and traveled with him to Afghanistan and Iraq.

I'm sure it wouldn't be the first time for Hagel.
 
2012-12-13 06:32:02 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

R.I.P. G.W.F. HEGEL 
 
 
2012-12-13 06:47:27 PM  

WhoIsWillo: Chuck Hegal or Richard Lugar?


Hagel
 
2012-12-13 06:54:56 PM  
I for one welcome our new Kegel secretary.
 
2012-12-13 06:57:31 PM  
Also, it's a solid choice that'll help assuage the ranks about the cuts
that are surely coming down the pipe. It puts R fingerprints all over them.
 
2012-12-13 06:58:27 PM  

fusillade762: GAT_00: WhoIsWillo: GAT_00: WhoIsWillo: Chuck Hegal or Richard Lugar?

I wouldn't be cool with Lugar, but Hegal is...eh, but I'm OK with it. I guess I figured Rice would get State and then Kerry would get Defense.

I would be fine with Lugar in State, not defense. I imagine he'd be happier (and more effective) as a UnderSecretary

Well, Rice just withdrew her nomination, so that's why Kerry isn't getting Defense and Hegal is. Kerry is going to be SecState.

If that's the case then it seems the GOP got what they wanted by making a big stink out of the possibility of a Rice nomination. Now they'll have a chance to pick up Kerry's senate seat.


I'm fairly convinced Massachusetts Democrats have learned their lesson there.
 
2012-12-13 07:01:46 PM  
Also, I've suspected that the rice nom was a way to draw R fire, make them fully commit to opposing Obama on something so that they'd be more amenable to the plan that he wanted all along - Kerry (his debate prepper/ a guy he owes) @ state & a qualified R @ DOD. We'll see when Obama writes his memoir.
 
2012-12-13 07:06:59 PM  

Somacandra: [upload.wikimedia.org image 500x573]

R.I.P. G.W.F. HEGEL


And good riddance.
 
2012-12-13 07:34:56 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: If it's the right person for the job, who gives a fark?

Clinton's SecDef was a Republican.

Only Republicans stick to the party line no matter what.


what he said.
 
2012-12-13 07:38:55 PM  
Dick (Dick) Cheney?
 
2012-12-13 07:51:09 PM  
Probably not a bad choice...

Now if we could inspire Republicans to actually work toward the common good of the country, we might actually get some shiat done.

Yeah... I'm not counting on that happening either.
 
2012-12-13 07:51:18 PM  
In the post-war era, 13 Republicans have been SecDef and 7 Dems. Every Dem except Carter nominated a Republican SecDef whereas no Republicans have appointed Dems.

Republicans have more than amply proven themselves to be incorrigibly bloodthirsty. There's no good reason why Obama should continue nominating GOP Daddies to assuage the pants-wetting elite.
 
2012-12-13 07:52:51 PM  

St_Francis_P: Uhm, Gates was a Republican. Just saying.


Gates wan't appointed to SecDef by Obama.
 
2012-12-13 07:54:50 PM  

propasaurus: I for one welcome our new Kegel secretary.


i4.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-13 07:55:23 PM  
1. What everybody else said. I'm not seeing a problem with the choice.

2. The headline is "Will Obama," not "Obama will."
 
2012-12-13 07:56:08 PM  
Competency not party labels count. That's one of the reasons I support the next to no chance of it happening of Huntsman becoming the new Secretary of State.
 
2012-12-13 08:00:07 PM  
Dennis Kucinich for Sec of State :)
 
2012-12-13 08:00:16 PM  

propasaurus: [Hagel] opposed President George W. Bush's decision to invade Iraq

Good enough for me.


This.
 
2012-12-13 08:01:22 PM  
No way Hagel should go help Obama. Let Obama clean up his own messes for once. I'm not stupid.

Can the RNC impeach him or something?
 
2012-12-13 08:04:15 PM  

Brian Ryanberger: No way Hagel should go help Obama. Let Obama clean up his own messes for once. I'm not stupid.

Can the RNC impeach him or something?


what mess? we're almost done cleaning up Bush and Cheney's mess. Those debacles are winding down.
 
2012-12-13 08:06:04 PM  
Sunny highlights his ignorance with use of "Stupid" tag.
 
2012-12-13 08:07:37 PM  

propasaurus: [Hagel] opposed President George W. Bush's decision to invade Iraq

Good enough for me.


No, he didn't. Hagel voted in favor of the AUMF. 

Regardless, opposing the Iraq war should be literally the lowest bar to hurdle to be SecDef.
 
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