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(Daily Kos)   Hispanic Leadership Network says new poll shows "the policies offered by conservative candidates are more closely aligned with the values of Hispanic voters" Poll actually shows Democrats ahead by huge margins on every issue in every state   (dailykos.com ) divider line
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2012-12-13 01:51:05 PM  
Everyone knows Republicans are pathological liars but this is unusually brazen, even for them.
 
2012-12-13 01:51:28 PM  
That's the pre-unskewed data, subtard.
 
2012-12-13 01:51:33 PM  
Breaking news: right wing shrill "think" tank lies.
 
2012-12-13 01:51:35 PM  
Don't worry, they'll get gerrymandered into insignificance.
 
2012-12-13 01:51:56 PM  
Those are not necessarily incongruous statements.
 
2012-12-13 01:52:21 PM  
The current republican party platform:

1.) Give more money to the wealthiest people in the country, whether through tax cuts, crony contracts, or simply overlooking the looting and theft those people engage in.

2.) Try to enact laws that punish people for their most private and intimate behavior while screeching about the intrusiveness of "Big Government".

3.) On any other subject or problem, GOP policy is "whatever pisses off liberals," even if that means opposing the same policies the GOP introduced and supported just 4 hours previous.

They aren't going anywhere with any voting group until this changes.
 
2012-12-13 01:52:38 PM  
Well, let's see here. Vote for the massive racists or vote for the not massive racists? Same principle applies to my vote. Vote for the massive sexists or vote for the people who don't try to quantify rape or shove a wand in my vagina?

It's not like this is hard.
 
2012-12-13 01:55:43 PM  

sprawl15: That's the pre-unskewed data, subtard.


And, for any other dumb libs who don't get it, that's just a percentage of people polled. Since most Hispanics are Democrat, of course it's going to trend Democratic.

To get honest data, you need to look at the party representation. Lets say in those states there's an average of 75% Democrat Hispanics and 25% Republican Hispanics. That 3:1 ratio means you have to multiply the Republican column by 3.

In New Mexico, this means that Democrats have 51% representation while Republicans have a whopping 96% representation. There's similar ass beatings in FL and NV, where the Democrats have only 50% and 54% respectively while Republicans have a dominating 99%. But even more stunning is in CO where the GOP has 105% representation among Hispanics. I mean, there's obviously margin of error issues there as it would be pretty difficult to get it about 102% or so mathematically speaking but either way it's an absolute ultimatum to the Democrats to get it together.
 
2012-12-13 01:56:32 PM  
The idea of what a Republican is maybe attractive to Hispanics.

The reality of what the Republicans are is not so attractive.

Add in the anything worthwhile, pragmatic, and sane that was in the Republican party platform has been co-opted by the Democrats, and it's no wonder they GOP is having a problem.
 
2012-12-13 01:56:38 PM  
You never let facts interfere with the narrative you are formulating.

Catapult the propaganda, if you will.

But they really just end up lying to themselves and destroy themselves from the inside.
 
2012-12-13 01:56:51 PM  
So they won't rebuild, only repaint with the same color.
 
2012-12-13 01:57:51 PM  

meat0918: The idea of what a Republican is maybe attractive to Hispanics


I see nothing in that party that should appeal to anyone. They can lie about fiscal conservatism all they want- they've never produced.
 
2012-12-13 01:57:55 PM  
Umm, don't see questions about abortion of marriage on there.
 
2012-12-13 01:58:24 PM  
What a Hispanic Leadership Network might look like:

static2.dmcdn.net

//eff u GIS for lack of Born in East L.A. pics
 
2012-12-13 01:58:54 PM  
I don't know what you're talking about, subtard. That poll clearly shows that Hispanics think Republicans are "anti-immigrant" and that they "care about helping rich people".

If there's a Hispanic who doesn't think those are positives, I haven't met him and ignored his opinions yet.
 
2012-12-13 01:58:56 PM  

sprawl15: sprawl15: That's the pre-unskewed data, subtard.

And, for any other dumb libs who don't get it, that's just a percentage of people polled. Since most Hispanics are Democrat, of course it's going to trend Democratic.

To get honest data, you need to look at the party representation. Lets say in those states there's an average of 75% Democrat Hispanics and 25% Republican Hispanics. That 3:1 ratio means you have to multiply the Republican column by 3.

In New Mexico, this means that Democrats have 51% representation while Republicans have a whopping 96% representation. There's similar ass beatings in FL and NV, where the Democrats have only 50% and 54% respectively while Republicans have a dominating 99%. But even more stunning is in CO where the GOP has 105% representation among Hispanics. I mean, there's obviously margin of error issues there as it would be pretty difficult to get it about 102% or so mathematically speaking but either way it's an absolute ultimatum to the Democrats to get it together.


i16.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-13 01:59:03 PM  

Maturin: Umm, don't see questions about abortion of marriage on there.


An abortion of marriage? I think that's what the GOP defines gay marriage as.
 
2012-12-13 01:59:17 PM  
"the policies offered by conservative candidates are more closely aligned with the values of Hispanic voters"

Could someone explain what the "values of Hispanic voters" are?
 
2012-12-13 01:59:22 PM  
Headline and the Kos chopped off the end of the HLN's statement:
"The results of our poll confirm, once again, that the policies offered by conservative candidates are more closely aligned with the values of Hispanic voters, but the tone of some Republicans running for office are alienating them,"

See? What they're really saying is that Hispanics really do prefer an anti-immigrant political party which does not respect their values and concerns; or at least they would if it were advertised a little better.
 
2012-12-13 02:00:16 PM  

Nadie_AZ: meat0918: The idea of what a Republican is maybe attractive to Hispanics

I see nothing in that party that should appeal to anyone. They can lie about fiscal conservatism all they want- they've never produced.


I believe it when Generic Republican doesn't poll very well.
 
2012-12-13 02:00:35 PM  

Pincy: "the policies offered by conservative candidates are more closely aligned with the values of Hispanic voters"

Could someone explain what the "values of Hispanic voters" are?


$2-3 a head.
 
2012-12-13 02:00:43 PM  

thurstonxhowell: I don't know what you're talking about, subtard. That poll clearly shows that Hispanics think Republicans are "anti-immigrant" and that they "care about helping rich people".

If there's a Hispanic who doesn't think those are positives, I haven't met him and ignored his opinions yet.


Sarcasm aside, Hispanics really do care about helping rich people. As long as there is an underpaid service job out in the lawn or laundry room in it for them.
 
2012-12-13 02:01:59 PM  
How the Republican Party thinks minorities view them:

i.imgur.com

How minorities actually view them:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-13 02:04:08 PM  

Pincy: "the policies offered by conservative candidates are more closely aligned with the values of Hispanic voters"

Could someone explain what the "values of Hispanic voters" are?


the same as white voters values except brown, shhhh don't tell anyone we are all humans.
 
2012-12-13 02:05:21 PM  

meat0918: Nadie_AZ: meat0918: The idea of what a Republican is maybe attractive to Hispanics

I see nothing in that party that should appeal to anyone. They can lie about fiscal conservatism all they want- they've never produced.

I believe it when Generic Republican doesn't poll very well.


t.qkme.me

That's because they didn't know about this one.

//less teeth = more suction
 
2012-12-13 02:05:37 PM  

amiable: The current republican party platform:


Poor people have too much money and rich people don't have enough.
 
2012-12-13 02:07:23 PM  

Wyalt Derp: amiable: The current republican party platform:

Poor people have too much money and rich people don't have enough.


We would have also accepted:

Big government is bad, except when it involves your spooge gun or meat wallet.
 
2012-12-13 02:08:00 PM  
You know, Miguel we agree on a lot.

Your Catholic values are perfectly in line with our stance on abortion.

Your view of America as a land of opportunity is totally in sync with our view of capitalism.

You have strong family values that are based on your faith and your hard work ethic, and we like that.

The only way we differ is that you like being in this county and we'd prefer that you and your entire family gtfo and return to the lawless third world hellhole you originated from.

Remember that it's not our differences, but our similarities that count. Give us a vote anytime!

love,
The Republican Party
 
2012-12-13 02:09:33 PM  

meat0918: Nadie_AZ: meat0918: The idea of what a Republican is maybe attractive to Hispanics

I see nothing in that party that should appeal to anyone. They can lie about fiscal conservatism all they want- they've never produced.

I believe it when Generic Republican doesn't poll very well.


Generic Republican wasn't even beating Obama before the end of the GOP primary.
 
2012-12-13 02:09:52 PM  

1derful: You know, Miguel we agree on a lot.

Your Catholic values are perfectly in line with our stance on abortion.

Your view of America as a land of opportunity is totally in sync with our view of capitalism.

You have strong family values that are based on your faith and your hard work ethic, and we like that.

The only way we differ is that you like being in this county and we'd prefer that you and your entire family gtfo and return to the lawless third world hellhole you originated from.

Remember that it's not our differences, but our similarities that count. Give us a vote anytime!

love,
The Republican Party


P.S. - Please stop putting so many hot chiles in your food. My dick almost got burned off when I stuck it in the anus of an underage boy who had Mexican last night.
 
2012-12-13 02:10:13 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: meat0918: Nadie_AZ: meat0918: The idea of what a Republican is maybe attractive to Hispanics

I see nothing in that party that should appeal to anyone. They can lie about fiscal conservatism all they want- they've never produced.

I believe it when Generic Republican doesn't poll very well.

Generic Republican wasn't even beating Obama before the end of the GOP primary.


Maybe people's idea of Generic Republican has finally shifted then.
 
2012-12-13 02:10:35 PM  
Como se dice en espanol "unskewed"?
 
2012-12-13 02:12:07 PM  
How do you say FREEBIES is Spanish?
 
2012-12-13 02:13:53 PM  

amiable: The current republican party platform:

1.) Give more money to the wealthiest people in the country, whether through tax cuts, crony contracts, or simply overlooking the looting and theft those people engage in.

2.) Try to enact laws that punish people for their most private and intimate behavior while screeching about the intrusiveness of "Big Government".

3.) On any other subject or problem, GOP policy is "whatever pisses off liberals," even if that means opposing the same policies the GOP introduced and supported just 4 hours previous.

They aren't going anywhere with any voting group until this changes.


This is what it means to be Republican........it's the only moral political platform because of Jesus.
 
2012-12-13 02:16:24 PM  
That's because for hispanics, they tend to care more about earning a living over two dudes getting hitched
 
2012-12-13 02:18:22 PM  
Hispanic Leadership Network says new poll shows "the policies offered by conservative candidates are more closely aligned with the values of Hispanic voters" - aka they are opposed to abortion and as Catholics, Hispanics should be all over that and pay no attention to GOP sponsored legislation that says if you are brown you can be stopped and asked for papers or a platform of self-deportation.

//Sounds perfectly stupid
 
2012-12-13 02:18:39 PM  
I disagree with this Hispanics in general are very supportive of government programs that help families and the poor they also are pro-workers rights often too.
 
2012-12-13 02:20:07 PM  

sprawl15: sprawl15: That's the pre-unskewed data, subtard.

And, for any other dumb libs who don't get it, that's just a percentage of people polled. Since most Hispanics are Democrat, of course it's going to trend Democratic.

To get honest data, you need to look at the party representation. Lets say in those states there's an average of 75% Democrat Hispanics and 25% Republican Hispanics. That 3:1 ratio means you have to multiply the Republican column by 3.

In New Mexico, this means that Democrats have 51% representation while Republicans have a whopping 96% representation. There's similar ass beatings in FL and NV, where the Democrats have only 50% and 54% respectively while Republicans have a dominating 99%. But even more stunning is in CO where the GOP has 105% representation among Hispanics. I mean, there's obviously margin of error issues there as it would be pretty difficult to get it about 102% or so mathematically speaking but either way it's an absolute ultimatum to the Democrats to get it together.


That's some mighty fine unskewing there.
 
2012-12-13 02:23:33 PM  

sprawl15: sprawl15: That's the pre-unskewed data, subtard.

And, for any other dumb libs who don't get it, that's just a percentage of people polled. Since most Hispanics are Democrat, of course it's going to trend Democratic.

To get honest data, you need to look at the party representation. Lets say in those states there's an average of 75% Democrat Hispanics and 25% Republican Hispanics. That 3:1 ratio means you have to multiply the Republican column by 3.

In New Mexico, this means that Democrats have 51% representation while Republicans have a whopping 96% representation. There's similar ass beatings in FL and NV, where the Democrats have only 50% and 54% respectively while Republicans have a dominating 99%. But even more stunning is in CO where the GOP has 105% representation among Hispanics. I mean, there's obviously margin of error issues there as it would be pretty difficult to get it about 102% or so mathematically speaking but either way it's an absolute ultimatum to the Democrats to get it together.


This is math you do to make yourself feel better, right?
 
2012-12-13 02:25:05 PM  

Onkel Buck: How do you say FREEBIES is Spanish?


Usted está retrasado. Feel free to use this on any Hispanic people you meet, but make sure to change the first two words to "Yo estoy".
 
2012-12-13 02:26:00 PM  

sprawl15: sprawl15: That's the pre-unskewed data, subtard.

And, for any other dumb libs who don't get it, that's just a percentage of people polled. Since most Hispanics are Democrat, of course it's going to trend Democratic.

To get honest data, you need to look at the party representation. Lets say in those states there's an average of 75% Democrat Hispanics and 25% Republican Hispanics. That 3:1 ratio means you have to multiply the Republican column by 3.

In New Mexico, this means that Democrats have 51% representation while Republicans have a whopping 96% representation. There's similar ass beatings in FL and NV, where the Democrats have only 50% and 54% respectively while Republicans have a dominating 99%. But even more stunning is in CO where the GOP has 105% representation among Hispanics. I mean, there's obviously margin of error issues there as it would be pretty difficult to get it about 102% or so mathematically speaking but either way it's an absolute ultimatum to the Democrats to get it together.


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2012-12-13 02:26:32 PM  

monoski: Hispanic Leadership Network says new poll shows "the policies offered by conservative candidates are more closely aligned with the values of Hispanic voters" - aka they are opposed to abortion and as Catholics, Hispanics should be all over that and pay no attention to GOP sponsored legislation that says if you are brown you can be stopped and asked for papers or a platform of self-deportation.

//Sounds perfectly stupid


Not to mention that the former Speaker of the House thinks they should stop using the language of poverty, and though he has a point in that you may be more likely to do well if you know English, I thought this was a free country, Newty? Why you getting up all up in their balls, bro? Look at the demographics, you fat bloviating fake-award-creating Fannie Mae supported sack of monkey feces- caucasians will not be a majority in a few years, this country will be multilingual, and there is nothing your fascist ass can do about it.
 
2012-12-13 02:28:34 PM  

ShuyaNanahara: Onkel Buck: How do you say FREEBIES is Spanish?

Usted está retrasado. Feel free to use this on any Hispanic people you meet, but make sure to change the first two words to "Yo estoy".


you are misleading, Retrasado is Spanish for Republican.
 
2012-12-13 02:28:57 PM  
I guess since most Hispanics are Catholic, they should vote for the party that upholds Catholic ideals like social justice, living wage laws, and opposition to the death penalty. . .
 
2012-12-13 02:29:50 PM  
Lying Republican scum
 
2012-12-13 02:32:09 PM  
I actually know a gay Latino is a hard republican.

Why? Because he's greedy as hell and only cares about money. All other matters, no matter how significant, are secondary to that. He's not rich himself, but was involved with a wealthy chap once before, and now desires that lifestyle. Keep in mind this is Texas, where the GOP wants to throw all jails in jail with no federal court challenges possible.
 
2012-12-13 02:35:51 PM  

coeyagi: //less teeth = more suction


But it's going to burn like hell a week after.
 
2012-12-13 02:37:44 PM  

sprawl15: sprawl15: That's the pre-unskewed data, subtard.

And, for any other dumb libs who don't get it, that's just a percentage of people polled. Since most Hispanics are Democrat, of course it's going to trend Democratic.

To get honest data, you need to look at the party representation. Lets say in those states there's an average of 75% Democrat Hispanics and 25% Republican Hispanics. That 3:1 ratio means you have to multiply the Republican column by 3.

In New Mexico, this means that Democrats have 51% representation while Republicans have a whopping 96% representation. There's similar ass beatings in FL and NV, where the Democrats have only 50% and 54% respectively while Republicans have a dominating 99%. But even more stunning is in CO where the GOP has 105% representation among Hispanics. I mean, there's obviously margin of error issues there as it would be pretty difficult to get it about 102% or so mathematically speaking but either way it's an absolute ultimatum to the Democrats to get it together.


Top-notch unskewing!
 
2012-12-13 02:37:56 PM  

Antimatter: Keep in mind this is Texas, where the GOP wants to throw all jails in jail with no federal court challenges possible.


Yo dawg, I heard you liked jails...
 
2012-12-13 02:38:18 PM  
La Koch-a-racha SuperPAC funded, Hispanic Leadership Network?

Or did they just confuse conservative and liberal/progressive?
 
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