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2012-12-13 02:42:47 PM
In the end when legalization comes--and it will--there will still be folks looking to sell on the streetcorner or out of their apartments, and it will be much like moonshine:

GOD*AMN REVENOOOOOORS!

But at least the jail time will be easier for tax evasion...
 
2012-12-13 03:00:58 PM
I want to know why the damned prices haven't come down considering the supplies these days
 
2012-12-13 03:45:53 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I want to know why the damned prices haven't come down considering the supplies these days


Because they can't just buy huge machines to automate the process.

The precautions required to evade detection make the production of drugs very labor intensive. Grocery-store cashiers, for instance, are more than 100 times as productive as retail drug sellers in terms of items sold per labor hour. Similarly, hired hands working for crack dealers can fill about 100 vials per hour, whereas even older-model sugar-packing machines can fill between 500 and 1,000 sugar packets per minute. This labor intensity of drug production, combined with the high wages demanded for that labor, are what drive up the costs of drugs; by comparison, materials and supplies - glassine bags, gram balances, and even guns - are relatively cheap.
 
2012-12-13 04:14:07 PM
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2012-12-13 04:54:41 PM
It's because of the union

Local 404 represent!

www.jayandsilentbob.com
 
2012-12-13 04:57:59 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I want to know why the damned prices haven't come down considering the supplies these days


Give it time. For now the whole legalization thing is in 2 states, and is brand new. It's also still illegal under federal law, so that will still be in the cost for a while before legal local growers get up to speed (takes a while for plants to grow after all).
 
2012-12-13 04:58:19 PM
Looks like a bag o' schwag.

www.thestranger.com
 
2012-12-13 04:59:09 PM

FishyFred: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I want to know why the damned prices haven't come down considering the supplies these days

Because they can't just buy huge machines to automate the process.

The precautions required to evade detection make the production of drugs very labor intensive. Grocery-store cashiers, for instance, are more than 100 times as productive as retail drug sellers in terms of items sold per labor hour. Similarly, hired hands working for crack dealers can fill about 100 vials per hour, whereas even older-model sugar-packing machines can fill between 500 and 1,000 sugar packets per minute. This labor intensity of drug production, combined with the high wages demanded for that labor, are what drive up the costs of drugs; by comparison, materials and supplies - glassine bags, gram balances, and even guns - are relatively cheap.


Oh god, I could just imagine having a case of cocaine packets. One helluva weekend.
 
2012-12-13 04:59:33 PM

FishyFred: Because they can't just buy huge machines to automate the process.


Well, good. I like the artisanal touches that go into illegal drugs. That little smiley-face stenciled on to each tab of ecstasy... the baroque charm of the bong you made out of your high school wood shop project... the little pinch of chili powder in your crystal meth. You'll miss these things when Nabisco™ takes over the industry and prices all the craft-drug makers out of business.
 
2012-12-13 05:00:47 PM
aren't they both getting it from the same grower?

/spoiled here in southern CA, it's hard to find shiatty buds.
 
2012-12-13 05:01:23 PM

hubiestubert: In the end when legalization comes--and it will--there will still be folks looking to sell on the streetcorner or out of their apartments, and it will be much like moonshine:

GOD*AMN REVENOOOOOORS!


And what about people who sell to people under 21?
 
2012-12-13 05:01:35 PM
I don't get the argument.
If you can grow pot for quality or grow it for lower cost, why would supporting the criminal overhead make it "better" than the store brands?

/its like claiming moonshine is better than even the cheapest store bought whiskey.
/it only seems that way if you have a taste for watered down rubbing alcohol.
 
2012-12-13 05:03:17 PM
My ex recently started dealing weed. At first she did it just to "cover the cost of her own weed" but then she ended up buying a scale, a gun, and expanding her customer base to acquantances of coworkers and friends.

She has a professional job, too, so I have no idea why she's engaging in such risky behavior.
 
2012-12-13 05:03:49 PM
And they deliver!
 
2012-12-13 05:06:12 PM

Isitoveryet: aren't they both getting it from the same grower?

/spoiled here in southern CA, it's hard to find shiatty buds.


This.

I won't get my card as long as my dealer keeps supplying the super duper automatic for me. Why would I need to pay $20/g for the same thing I'm already getting at $10/g?

The dispensaries are just for people who want to pay a premium for the edibles and oil.
 
2012-12-13 05:06:36 PM
Something tells me it's only a matter of time before you're all smoking Monsanto.
 
2012-12-13 05:06:38 PM

Isitoveryet: aren't they both getting it from the same grower?

/spoiled here in southern CA, it's hard to find shiatty buds.


The dispensaries out here only sell what I call "dorm weed," anybody who grows anything good is just doing it for themselves in small doses. NoCal is a little better but SoCal pot is really not that great. People are just buying a brand name at this point
 
2012-12-13 05:08:32 PM
Sorry, full legalization will never happen.

The Mob opposes legalization because they know what I know: The same people who deal grass also handle heroin and cocaine, and they want to protect their market.

Small--timers who do not handle any hard narcotics also know what I know: Take the illegal out of it, and prices collapse.

Good example is Cambodia, where grass is 100% legal, and an ounce bag goes for $1 at the Phnom Penh airport---but that's the only place in town you can buy it. A bag of good weed would last me all week, but if I drink a beer---15 minutes later, I want another beer. You do the math.

Then of course we have all these government parasites who make a full time living off it; you think those bastards would actually go out and get a job?
 
2012-12-13 05:08:45 PM
So will I still be able to get an oz of decent outdoor schwag for $100 when I don't feel like spending $400 for the boutique stuff?
 
2012-12-13 05:08:54 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: My ex recently started dealing weed. At first she did it just to "cover the cost of her own weed" but then she ended up buying a scale, a gun, and expanding her customer base to acquantances of coworkers and friends.

She has a professional job, too, so I have no idea why she's engaging in such risky behavior.


that is strange, she must be raking in the cash.
It probably seems like easy money until the risk catches up with her.

/a risk i don't care to take.
 
2012-12-13 05:10:05 PM

olddinosaur: Sorry, full legalization will never happen.

The Mob opposes legalization because they know what I know: The same people who deal grass also handle heroin and cocaine, and they want to protect their market.

Small--timers who do not handle any hard narcotics also know what I know: Take the illegal out of it, and prices collapse.

Good example is Cambodia, where grass is 100% legal, and an ounce bag goes for $1 at the Phnom Penh airport---but that's the only place in town you can buy it. A bag of good weed would last me all week, but if I drink a beer---15 minutes later, I want another beer. You do the math.

Then of course we have all these government parasites who make a full time living off it; you think those bastards would actually go out and get a job?


"The Mob" and small-time pot dealers have zero influence on federal drug legislation.
 
2012-12-13 05:10:29 PM
Something rubs me the wrong way in this article. I'm have a VERY hard time believing that these were all legitimate dealers this author "interviewed". He conveniently made it impossible to verify any of his sources, and the whole thing came off reading like it was done by one of the producers of Reefer Madness.
 
2012-12-13 05:10:56 PM
What I get from my dealer is very high quality. Also cheaper than what dispensaries charge for lesser strains. Also, no taxes. So I'd probably still buy from him even if pot went legal.
 
2012-12-13 05:12:19 PM

Isitoveryet: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: My ex recently started dealing weed. At first she did it just to "cover the cost of her own weed" but then she ended up buying a scale, a gun, and expanding her customer base to acquantances of coworkers and friends.

She has a professional job, too, so I have no idea why she's engaging in such risky behavior.

that is strange, she must be raking in the cash.
It probably seems like easy money until the risk catches up with her.

/a risk i don't care to take.


That's the thing! She isn't making hardly anything (relative to her job). She makes maybe a few hundred a week. If she gets pulled over for speeding when she's on her way to make a delivery, ugh... Just doesn't seem worth it.
 
2012-12-13 05:13:54 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: My ex recently started dealing weed. At first she did it just to "cover the cost of her own weed" but then she ended up buying a scale, a gun, and expanding her customer base to acquantances of coworkers and friends.

She has a professional job, too, so I have no idea why she's engaging in such risky behavior.


I remember a convo with a dealer once. He was talking about how he had just gotten robbed the night before. Guy held him up for all his cash and weed. He shrugged, meh, it's business. Eff that, you could have lost your life for a few hundred bucks. Another dealer was a severe dumbass who invited "clients" TO HIS HOUSE and showed them the safe and everything. Big surprise one day when he's calling up all his clients demanding to know which one broke into his room and took all his stuff. Come to think of it I don't know any dealers who had happy endings regarding that career choice.
 
2012-12-13 05:14:19 PM

Isitoveryet: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: My ex recently started dealing weed. At first she did it just to "cover the cost of her own weed" but then she ended up buying a scale, a gun, and expanding her customer base to acquantances of coworkers and friends.

She has a professional job, too, so I have no idea why she's engaging in such risky behavior.

that is strange, she must be raking in the cash.
It probably seems like easy money until the risk catches up with her.

/a risk i don't care to take.


She is "hooked on the action," she doesn't care about the money. There are many forms of crime which produce a better income than marijuana, and carry a lesser penalty when (not if) you are caught, but they don't have the cachet of the weed dealer.
 
2012-12-13 05:14:24 PM

89 Stick-Up Kid: The dispensaries are just for people who want to pay a premium for the edibles and oil.


that may be the case, i haven't tried most of the edible products available at the dispensaries & from what i understand, there are quite a few.



SnakeLee: The dispensaries out here only sell what I call "dorm weed," anybody who grows anything good is just doing it for themselves in small doses. NoCal is a little better but SoCal pot is really not that great. People are just buying a brand name at this point


well i'd love to see anything better than what we get around here, that would be impressive.
as for brand name, i don't care what it's called, smells good, looks good, it is good.
 
2012-12-13 05:15:21 PM

Maud Dib: Looks like a bag o' schwag.

[www.thestranger.com image 570x300]


is that even pot? it looks like green 'healthy' spinach spaghett or something. the wheat/vegetable kind nobody eats. its all stringy. y u all stringy, pot? y?!

unrelated: ever had a dream where you are buying pot and end up getting a bag of not-pot from the guy? its never happened to me (although I have been robbed a few times) but i do have bad dreams about it occasionally.

/'here's your sign..."
//still not big on bill ingvall
///doobity dooo slashies!
 
2012-12-13 05:15:33 PM
Larry the Liquidator has something to say about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfL7STmWZ1c
 
2012-12-13 05:15:35 PM

olddinosaur: Sorry, full legalization will never happen.


Living up to your name I see.
 
2012-12-13 05:17:23 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: ... Just doesn't seem worth it.


maybe shes some sort of marijuana subculture socialite? I would assume that It's a fun scene.
 
2012-12-13 05:17:54 PM

Doom MD: Larry the Liquidator has something to say about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfL7STmWZ1c


Link

sorry for the fail up there
 
2012-12-13 05:18:07 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: My ex recently started dealing weed. At first she did it just to "cover the cost of her own weed" but then she ended up buying a scale, a gun, and expanding her customer base to acquantances of coworkers and friends.

She has a professional job, too, so I have no idea why she's engaging in such risky behavior.



Let's go score a lid, How much for a lid of grass??? MMaaannnnn.

Her "professional" job.

www.jenito.com
 
2012-12-13 05:18:30 PM
thanks to Medical MJ growers/dispensaries in states other than where I live... the availability of amazingly powerful shiat has exploded its gotten to the point where it's harder to find "dirt weed" than high quality product... which is mostly cool... except that when your paying $80 an 8th weight...baking magic brownies suddenly becomes seriously cost prohibitive.
 
2012-12-13 05:18:38 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: olddinosaur: Sorry, full legalization will never happen.

The Mob opposes legalization because they know what I know: The same people who deal grass also handle heroin and cocaine, and they want to protect their market.

Small--timers who do not handle any hard narcotics also know what I know: Take the illegal out of it, and prices collapse.

Good example is Cambodia, where grass is 100% legal, and an ounce bag goes for $1 at the Phnom Penh airport---but that's the only place in town you can buy it. A bag of good weed would last me all week, but if I drink a beer---15 minutes later, I want another beer. You do the math.

Then of course we have all these government parasites who make a full time living off it; you think those bastards would actually go out and get a job?

"The Mob" and small-time pot dealers have zero influence on federal drug legislation.


You believe that, tell me what YOU have been smoking! Narcotics are big business, bigger than steel, bigger than anything except maybe cars. You think they are going to go away without a fight, when they can produce cocaine for 5 cents a gram and sell it fort $100?

Get real.
 
2012-12-13 05:18:50 PM

olddinosaur: She is "hooked on the action," she doesn't care about the money. There are many forms of crime which produce a better income than marijuana, and carry a lesser penalty when (not if) you are caught, but they don't have the cachet of the weed dealer.


that sounds right!
 
2012-12-13 05:20:31 PM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: "I want to know why the damned prices haven't come down considering the supplies these days"

Because price is set by willingness to pay. Not cost.
When you're selling every scrap you put in a baggy, the expected direction for price to move is *up*.
Even if your competitors show up and can grow for half the cost, if they can *also* sell every scrap they grow for the same price as you, why would they cut price?

When supply so outstrips demand that it becomes waste for not selling, is when prices will go down. And that's going to take a while.

Also, because no-one can know when or if the Feds will show up and fark your operation, supply is still more constrained than people give it credit for.
I don't see legal growers springing up in addition to former illegal supply. What I see is formerly-illegal growers going legit and demand for imported stuff drying up as people would rather spend a bit more at a dispensary than have to deal with their old dealers and all the bullshiat that entailed. So imported supply is largely disappearing from the equation and that's also supporting higher prices.
 
2012-12-13 05:20:47 PM
Yet another dealer said he fears additional scrutiny from the police as the state tries to protect its new weed-selling powers. "They're gonna crack down on dealers because their whole thing was to get rid of the black market," he said. "I'm not worried about it right now, but a year from now, who knows?"

You could be peddling children on the street and the cops might or might not take an interest, but start interfering with a government revenue stream and you'll have a nightstick up your ass before you can blink.
 
2012-12-13 05:21:03 PM

olddinosaur: Sorry, full legalization will never happen.

The Mob opposes legalization because they know what I know: The same people who deal grass also handle heroin and cocaine, and they want to protect their market.

Small--timers who do not handle any hard narcotics also know what I know: Take the illegal out of it, and prices collapse.

Good example is Cambodia, where grass is 100% legal, and an ounce bag goes for $1 at the Phnom Penh airport---but that's the only place in town you can buy it. A bag of good weed would last me all week, but if I drink a beer---15 minutes later, I want another beer. You do the math.

Then of course we have all these government parasites who make a full time living off it; you think those bastards would actually go out and get a job?


So you're saying because the guys who control the illegal market don't support legalization means it will never happen?

While I don't doubt that full on "everything is fair game" legalization will never happen, I do think pot will eventually be legalized at a federal level. The amount of money being spent to combat a problem that is really a non-issue is absurd, plus the tax benefits the government would rake in from the sales are too much to ignore. That's not counting the new markets/jobs that would be created for growing, distributing, selling, etc. And that only accounts for smokeable product. The hemp industry would boom like crazy creating even more jobs.

Yet the government parasites who currently make a full time living off of it wouldn't really be affected from pot legalization. Their priorities would shift from marijuana enforcement, to heroine, cocaine, meth, etc, etc. There's a whole host of others narcotics that are far more deadly and pose actual risk to the public they could/should be dedicating their time to. A harmless plant that makes you wanna eat some cheetohs is not something they should care about.

Plus if they want to stamp out the illegal market, the simple solution is to legalize it, tax it, and keep the prices either in line with what you pay illegally or slightly less. Since there's no risk for legal distribution, you'll have no price hike for the risk being taken. You can stamp out the illegal market by simply controlling the prices to the point they can no longer profit. At which time they'll move on to some other substance to make their money.

Now you could say legalization will merely make it cheaper for the criminals to sell it. Buuuut if you force licensing for sales, distribution, and growing then it's still illegal for an unlicensed individual to do any of those things. Thus putting them in the crosshairs of johnny law again. So the risk would still exist for the apartment salesman, but the 7-11 down the street corner will happily sell you a pack of Marlboro greens at a lower, legal, rate.
 
2012-12-13 05:21:33 PM

Maud Dib: Looks like a bag o' schwag.

[www.thestranger.com image 570x300]


It's PNW weed it has moss on it.
 
2012-12-13 05:23:29 PM
the quality of street weed is definitely comparable, in this area anyway. the prices are competitive too. the new thing around here is a nickel bag that's a half gram of top shelf.

/let the free market something something
 
2012-12-13 05:24:16 PM

olddinosaur: Good example is Cambodia, where grass is 100% legal, and an ounce bag goes for $1 at the Phnom Penh airport


Really?

I paid 4X that for about a half oz in rural Cambodia! Looked, smelled and had mega-seeds like Mexi-dirt but, unlike Mexidirt, it had a really powerful stoney kick to it. I could have bought that bag for 50 cents and saved myself $3.50!?!

/doesn't exactly feel ripped off
 
2012-12-13 05:26:16 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: My ex recently started dealing weed. At first she did it just to "cover the cost of her own weed" but then she ended up buying a scale, a gun, and expanding her customer base to acquantances of coworkers and friends.

She has a professional job, too, so I have no idea why she's engaging in such risky behavior.


free weed man
 
2012-12-13 05:27:00 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: My ex recently started dealing weed. At first she did it just to "cover the cost of her own weed" but then she ended up buying a scale, a gun, and expanding her customer base to acquantances of coworkers and friends.

She has a professional job, too, so I have no idea why she's engaging in such risky behavior.


.
It sounds like you're missing part of the story. Since she's your ex I'm not going to tell you the rest of her story.
 
2012-12-13 05:29:16 PM
I agree with what a lot of folk here have stated. I have a few friends that grow and sell on the side. They take a great deal of pride in their product and rightfully so. Kinda like my friends that brew their own beer.

I live in Colorado. I never got my medical card but a few friends did. After the novelty of oils and edibles wore off they all pretty much returned to their regular dealer. Went to school in Alabama (War Eagle) where homegrown was usually a derogatory term. Here it is a mark of quality and pride.

/And as MFAWG said, "They deliver".
//And hang out, have dinner and play some video games.
///I also get other items from them.
////Shrooms around here are pretty good.
//Extaslashies
 
2012-12-13 05:32:42 PM

semiotix: FishyFred: Because they can't just buy huge machines to automate the process.

Well, good. I like the artisanal touches that go into illegal drugs. That little smiley-face stenciled on to each tab of ecstasy... the baroque charm of the bong you made out of your high school wood shop project... the little pinch of chili powder in your crystal meth. You'll miss these things when Nabisco™ takes over the industry and prices all the craft-drug makers out of business.


You buy ecstasy with stuff stenciled onto the pills?
 
2012-12-13 05:34:20 PM

david_gaithersburg: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: My ex recently started dealing weed. At first she did it just to "cover the cost of her own weed" but then she ended up buying a scale, a gun, and expanding her customer base to acquantances of coworkers and friends.

She has a professional job, too, so I have no idea why she's engaging in such risky behavior.

.
It sounds like you're missing part of the story. Since she's your ex I'm not going to tell you the rest of her story.


Tell me!!
 
2012-12-13 05:35:39 PM
Another guy, dressed in a fur hat and gold chain...

I find it a little too cold to go without pants.
It must be some good weed.
 
2012-12-13 05:41:21 PM

Mazzic518: You buy ecstasy with stuff stenciled onto the pills?


Yes, but only if it's locally sourced and has a low carbon footprint.
 
2012-12-13 05:47:17 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: olddinosaur: Good example is Cambodia, where grass is 100% legal, and an ounce bag goes for $1 at the Phnom Penh airport

Really?

I paid 4X that for about a half oz in rural Cambodia! Looked, smelled and had mega-seeds like Mexi-dirt but, unlike Mexidirt, it had a really powerful stoney kick to it. I could have bought that bag for 50 cents and saved myself $3.50!?!

/doesn't exactly feel ripped off


Production cost of marijuana is on the order of 23 cents a pound, not even that much if Mexican labor is used.

Hell, it might not even be that expensive. If I have a big mechanized farm, I am going to sell the stalks for rope, the seeds for a food grain, the leaf for paper and the flowertops for schwag. The profit I make on all the mundane products will more than pay for the cost of cultivation, so the smokable part is actually free. Problem here is, how are you going to compete with me if I sell premium bud at $1.00 per ounce?

Who is going to stand on the street corner all day long selling bags, if all he could make is $1--$2 an hour?
 
2012-12-13 05:48:48 PM
Dime-bags on the street are one thing. But the real question is what happens to the high-end delivery services?

wyltoknow: Another dealer was a severe dumbass who invited "clients" TO HIS HOUSE and showed them the safe and everything.


I visited the home of my guy the first time. Dude had gigantic plastic bins filled to the top with shiat and about a hundred sticks of incense burning continuously. Seemed like a "Carnegie Deli" waiting to happen but in 19 years he has never had a problem.
 
2012-12-13 05:55:22 PM

T.M.S.: Dime-bags on the street are one thing. But the real question is what happens to the high-end delivery services?


They also delivery a nice fresh pizza?

If it truly becomes legal like alcohol, delivery service is possible, you will just have to show your ID at the door. (Depending on your state laws.)

So yes, you could in 10 years get a nice garlic, pesto, & chicken pizza along with your weed.
 
2012-12-13 05:57:04 PM

semiotix: the little pinch of chili powder in your crystal meth.


i hate chili powder! *way to ruin the plan*


SithLord: It's because of the union

Local 404 represent!

[www.jayandsilentbob.com image 230x154]


pumpkin escobar, los angeles local 305:
"man, i don't know what the fark you just said little kid, but you're special man. you reached out and touched me by the heart."
 
2012-12-13 05:57:22 PM
That's a strange claim to make considering Washington State won't be in that business for at least another year.

It's almost like they're paranoid or something...
 
2012-12-13 05:59:02 PM
Not going to lie. I've never tried it. Never had friends into it.
Now I'm older, live in Denver (only for 6 months. ) but I don't have a clue how someone with no true friends that do it, would even get started in buying it. I wouldn't trust anyone. And I certainly wouldn't ask my coworkers if any of them had a trusted source.

I'm not believing that "street dealers" are going to do as well once actual legal stores open.
 
2012-12-13 05:59:13 PM

LaraAmber: So yes, you could in 10 years get a nice garlic, pesto, & chicken pizza along with your weed.


so uh, do you want to hang out some time, like sooner than in 10 yrs?
 
2012-12-13 06:02:10 PM

wyltoknow: ... Come to think of it I don't know any dealers who had happy endings regarding that career choice.


I dunno - there always seems to be a fun and quirky last minute rescue here:

john-steppling.com
 
2012-12-13 06:03:32 PM
We are READY

farm1.staticflickr.com

Tokeland, near the Shoalwater casino
 
2012-12-13 06:08:03 PM

89 Stick-Up Kid: I won't get my card as long as my dealer keeps supplying the super duper automatic for me. Why would I need to pay $20/g for the same thing I'm already getting at $10/g?

The dispensaries are just for people who want to pay a premium for the edibles and oil.


Because you know you're not going to get ripped off at a dispensary, the dispensary keeps regular hours and doesn't go on "vacation," the dispensary has a lot of choices, I've never met a drug dealer that had more than 3 and most have 1, the dispensary also isn't in the crappiest part of town.

And $10/g sounds like Mexican ditch weed. Unless you're buying in larger ammounts.
 
2012-12-13 06:08:30 PM

david_gaithersburg: Since she's your ex I'm not going to tell you the rest of her story.

 

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2012-12-13 06:11:31 PM
I only have 2 connections at the moment, and the supply chain behind them is pretty long, so when I buy weed, I overpay. It sucks. I wish I had another source, but being a middle-aged father and working professional makes it tough to find someone. Nearly everyone I interact with knows me through my practice or because they're parents of my daughters' friends. I'm certainly not going to ask any of them if they know where I can buy weed.

I can't wait until the day my state legalizes it, and I can take a walk down to the local convenience store and buy myself some weed. I'd even pay a premium to be able to do that, but I'm pretty confident that in reality I'll probably pay a lot less than I do now.
 
2012-12-13 06:15:35 PM
Street guys have it for you now and in private.... I fear the "legal" stores are going to have crazy prices [taxes] and big brother surveillance.
 
2012-12-13 06:20:08 PM

Phil Ken Sebben: Not going to lie. I've never tried it. Never had friends into it.
Now I'm older, live in Denver (only for 6 months. ) but I don't have a clue how someone with no true friends that do it, would even get started in buying it. I wouldn't trust anyone. And I certainly wouldn't ask my coworkers if any of them had a trusted source.

I'm not believing that "street dealers" are going to do as well once actual legal stores open.


It's gonna be difficult, as an adult, to score as trust is inherent to the deal. You have to trust them as much as they have to trust you. It's like moving to a new town and trying to find friends. Your co-workers, are your best chance 'cause they know you. Unless you work in the law enforcement field (and that isn't a block, either), one of your officemates imbibe. Just be ready to state that you're interested next time it comes up in conversation. Heads will be glad (and will live vicariously) to get your first high. Also, as said in "A Child's Garden of Grass" (required listening for older pot smokers), If you see a bunch of people standing around, stand next to them and look wistful.
 
2012-12-13 06:21:44 PM
Going to a dispensery and checkout out at counter in 2 minutes >>>> sitting on dealer's smelly futon and listening to his idiot girlfriend blather on about learning how to crochet
 
2012-12-13 06:27:35 PM
Ahhhh, the open market. Let the marketing bullshiat begin !!
 
2012-12-13 06:40:01 PM

Stratohead: thanks to Medical MJ growers/dispensaries in states other than where I live... the availability of amazingly powerful shiat has exploded its gotten to the point where it's harder to find "dirt weed" than high quality product... which is mostly cool... except that when your paying $80 an 8th weight...baking magic brownies suddenly becomes seriously cost prohibitive.


Dirt weed is gone due to the drug law punishments being based upon weight. It simply isn't worth the risk anymore to get caught with a few pounds of commercial vs. a few grams of buds.
 
2012-12-13 06:44:34 PM

Phil Ken Sebben: Not going to lie. I've never tried it. Never had friends into it.
Now I'm older, live in Denver (only for 6 months. ) but I don't have a clue how someone with no true friends that do it, would even get started in buying it. I wouldn't trust anyone. And I certainly wouldn't ask my coworkers if any of them had a trusted source.

I'm not believing that "street dealers" are going to do as well once actual legal stores open.


From the looks of this thread, I don't know. Users have been going on and on for years saying that if the government legalized marijuana they would give up the illegal stuff and go for the legal stuff. But in the end, that doesn't seem to be true.

Users will only give up the illegal stuff if the legal stuff is stronger and cheaper than the illegal stuff. All the black market needs to do in order to keep going is to making a cheaper, stronger product. And given that legal weed will have additional overhead costs as well as being taxed, I don't see it ever being cheaper than the illegal stuff.

People point to prohibition as proof that the black market for moonshine went away once legal alcohol came back. But in all honesty, moonshine went away because it was an awful product to begin with when compared with other liquors. Unlike weed, most people, not all, but most like to drink alcohol because of the taste rather than just having something that gives you a buzz. Pot doesn't have that trait. It smells bad and it doesn't exactly taste like bacon. There is no legal pot that tastes like an expensive, well crafted wine. So, if the cheap, illegal stuff gets you a better buzz than the weak, overpriced legal stuff, how many people are going to give up their dealers?
 
2012-12-13 06:50:54 PM
Just picked up a 1/4 of blueberry today. Same individual I've been getting it from for years. I don't care if the Marihuana Supermarket opens up here next week, I'll stick with my source.
 
2012-12-13 07:04:23 PM
Sure, street dealers can enhance their product with any number of value-added supplemental ingredients:
Crack, crank, rat poison, sugar, or whatever floats their boat. With legal pot, all you get is the marijuana with natural THC and maybe a few garden-safe insecticides.
 
2012-12-13 07:06:37 PM
The worst part about buying it from my dealer is the fact that I even have to deal with him at all. As an introverted person, I just wanna be in/out without any hassle or forced conversation. I just wanna get my weed, go home and toke up in private.

On top of that, I never really know if what I'm getting is healthy or not. Sometimes it smells like the guy stored it in his ass. I can't return it once I bought it either. When I ask for weed, I can't say no in case I don't like it, as he went to the trouble of hooking me up in the first place and I look like an asshole if I complain about the quality.

fark all that annoying BS.

Give me a well regulated market to buy from and I will gladly pay for the convenience of it all.
 
2012-12-13 07:12:54 PM

mekki: Phil Ken Sebben: Not going to lie. I've never tried it. Never had friends into it.
Now I'm older, live in Denver (only for 6 months. ) but I don't have a clue how someone with no true friends that do it, would even get started in buying it. I wouldn't trust anyone. And I certainly wouldn't ask my coworkers if any of them had a trusted source.

I'm not believing that "street dealers" are going to do as well once actual legal stores open.

From the looks of this thread, I don't know. Users have been going on and on for years saying that if the government legalized marijuana they would give up the illegal stuff and go for the legal stuff. But in the end, that doesn't seem to be true.

Users will only give up the illegal stuff if the legal stuff is stronger and cheaper than the illegal stuff. All the black market needs to do in order to keep going is to making a cheaper, stronger product. And given that legal weed will have additional overhead costs as well as being taxed, I don't see it ever being cheaper than the illegal stuff.

People point to prohibition as proof that the black market for moonshine went away once legal alcohol came back. But in all honesty, moonshine went away because it was an awful product to begin with when compared with other liquors. Unlike weed, most people, not all, but most like to drink alcohol because of the taste rather than just having something that gives you a buzz. Pot doesn't have that trait. It smells bad and it doesn't exactly taste like bacon. There is no legal pot that tastes like an expensive, well crafted wine. So, if the cheap, illegal stuff gets you a better buzz than the weak, overpriced legal stuff, how many people are going to give up their dealers?


I see the laws becoming more relax over time. You start with the "OMG only state regulated dispensaries in certain designated zones can sell". Then a few years go by and the people go "okay this is stupid, people aren't breaking the law or destroying the neighborhood because of pot shops being in the area" and laws get relaxed. We just in the last few years in Colorado allowed alcohol sales on Sunday. If you can get the laws to the point where pot isn't the only thing a shop sells, their prices will drop (less risk, other items chipping away at overhead). I don't know about other states, but the pot referendum in Colorado included being allowed to grow a certain number of your own plants. That will also reduce prices/push for better product.

Combo pot and wine bar? Combo pot & spa? Combo pot & artisan bakery? Pot shop & pizzeria. Or the most likely scenario: the 7-11 just knocks down the wall between them and the dispensary.

Now if Colorado will just allow full strength wine & beer in grocery stores and allow a liquor store owner to own more than one location so the really good stores can branch out.
 
2012-12-13 07:14:37 PM

FTGodWin: Stratohead: thanks to Medical MJ growers/dispensaries in states other than where I live... the availability of amazingly powerful shiat has exploded its gotten to the point where it's harder to find "dirt weed" than high quality product... which is mostly cool... except that when your paying $80 an 8th weight...baking magic brownies suddenly becomes seriously cost prohibitive.

Dirt weed is gone due to the drug law punishments being based upon weight. It simply isn't worth the risk anymore to get caught with a few pounds of commercial vs. a few grams of buds.


There's still a market for Mexican garbage, but today's consumer wants a quality product and will pay top dollar for it. Indoor growing, hydroponics and crossbreeding have completely changed the quality of the product.
 
2012-12-13 07:15:28 PM
175 for oz of quality outdoor. (girl scout cookie)
when that dries up the price goes up a bit cuz then its indoor which cost more to grow.
/norcal

http://www.cannabissearch.com/strains/girl-scout-cookies/
 
2012-12-13 07:18:31 PM

mekki: Phil Ken Sebben: Not going to lie. I've never tried it. Never had friends into it.
Now I'm older, live in Denver (only for 6 months. ) but I don't have a clue how someone with no true friends that do it, would even get started in buying it. I wouldn't trust anyone. And I certainly wouldn't ask my coworkers if any of them had a trusted source.

I'm not believing that "street dealers" are going to do as well once actual legal stores open.

From the looks of this thread, I don't know. Users have been going on and on for years saying that if the government legalized marijuana they would give up the illegal stuff and go for the legal stuff. But in the end, that doesn't seem to be true.

Users will only give up the illegal stuff if the legal stuff is stronger and cheaper than the illegal stuff. All the black market needs to do in order to keep going is to making a cheaper, stronger product. And given that legal weed will have additional overhead costs as well as being taxed, I don't see it ever being cheaper than the illegal stuff.

People point to prohibition as proof that the black market for moonshine went away once legal alcohol came back. But in all honesty, moonshine went away because it was an awful product to begin with when compared with other liquors. Unlike weed, most people, not all, but most like to drink alcohol because of the taste rather than just having something that gives you a buzz. Pot doesn't have that trait. It smells bad and it doesn't exactly taste like bacon. There is no legal pot that tastes like an expensive, well crafted wine. So, if the cheap, illegal stuff gets you a better buzz than the weak, overpriced legal stuff, how many people are going to give up their dealers?


You may be smoking the wrong stuff... Or simply don't like the taste of smoke..
 
2012-12-13 07:19:11 PM

InmanRoshi: Going to a dispensery and checkout out at counter in 2 minutes >>>> sitting on dealer's smelly futon and listening to his idiot girlfriend blather on about learning how to crochet


Lance: "Hey uh, what do you think about Trudy. She ain't got a boyfriend. You want to hang out and get high."
Vincent: "Which one is she? The one with all the shiat in her face?"
Lance: "Arr...no...that's Judy...that's my wife"
 
2012-12-13 07:21:52 PM

gregscott: Sure, street dealers can enhance their product with any number of value-added supplemental ingredients:
Crack, crank, rat poison, sugar, or whatever floats their boat. With legal pot, all you get is the marijuana with natural THC and maybe a few garden-safe insecticides.


I don't know where the hell you're buying from, but I've never got anything laced. Usually people smoking crap spiked with PCP or coke have a good idea what they're smoking and are either dipping their weed in it themselves or buying from dealers who specialize in that garbage.
 
2012-12-13 07:29:55 PM

uknowzit: 175 for oz of quality outdoor. (girl scout cookie)
when that dries up the price goes up a bit cuz then its indoor which cost more to grow.
/norcal

http://www.cannabissearch.com/strains/girl-scout-cookies/


My fave strain and pretty much the only one I get currently. Mine is indoor though.
 
2012-12-13 07:34:50 PM

PiffMan420: gregscott: Sure, street dealers can enhance their product with any number of value-added supplemental ingredients:
Crack, crank, rat poison, sugar, or whatever floats their boat. With legal pot, all you get is the marijuana with natural THC and maybe a few garden-safe insecticides.

I don't know where the hell you're buying from, but I've never got anything laced. Usually people smoking crap spiked with PCP or coke have a good idea what they're smoking and are either dipping their weed in it themselves or buying from dealers who specialize in that garbage.


If your dealer is cutting his weed with rat poison, they're not going to have many customers for long. And I can't see how sugar would even work, wouldn't it just collect in the bottom? As for the Coke/PCP.. why would they use that when they can sell it for much more by itself?
 
2012-12-13 07:36:04 PM

PiffMan420: gregscott: Sure, street dealers can enhance their product with any number of value-added supplemental ingredients:
Crack, crank, rat poison, sugar, or whatever floats their boat. With legal pot, all you get is the marijuana with natural THC and maybe a few garden-safe insecticides.

I don't know where the hell you're buying from, but I've never got anything laced. Usually people smoking crap spiked with PCP or coke have a good idea what they're smoking and are either dipping their weed in it themselves or buying from dealers who specialize in that garbage.


Yup. Dealers certainly wouldn't lace it with other psychoactive substances without informing the buyer. Why waste money lacing weed with crack when you can sell them separately and make more money? And dealers wouldn't put rat poison or sugar in weed. First of all, the buyer can see it and it's certainly not something they'd be happy about. Second, if the buyer did find out that the dealer laced his weed with poison, the dealer might find himself with an unanticipated .357 piercing on the face for doing something that provided him with no benefit at all.

I think gregscott may have watched a few too many DARE videos in school.
 
2012-12-13 07:42:32 PM
Prediction:

1-Major fights between Mexican drug cartels and Colorado residents over growing plots in national forests.

2-As pot prices drop due to a major market glut, fights and deaths amongst street level dealers will rise.
 
2012-12-13 07:44:46 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Isitoveryet: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: My ex recently started dealing weed. At first she did it just to "cover the cost of her own weed" but then she ended up buying a scale, a gun, and expanding her customer base to acquantances of coworkers and friends.

She has a professional job, too, so I have no idea why she's engaging in such risky behavior.

that is strange, she must be raking in the cash.
It probably seems like easy money until the risk catches up with her.

/a risk i don't care to take.

That's the thing! She isn't making hardly anything (relative to her job). She makes maybe a few hundred a week. If she gets pulled over for speeding when she's on her way to make a delivery, ugh... Just doesn't seem worth it.


It's caring of you to post her business on a public website. You are legally an accessory. Have anice day.
 
2012-12-13 07:47:25 PM

phunkey_monkey: Prediction:

1-Major fights between Mexican drug cartels and Colorado residents over growing plots in national forests.

2-As pot prices drop due to a major market glut, fights and deaths amongst street level dealers will rise.


National Forests? There are so many shops here dedicated to teaching people to grow indoors why go hike out in the hills where someone else could rip you off?
 
2012-12-13 08:01:52 PM

semiotix: FishyFred: Because they can't just buy huge machines to automate the process.

Well, good. I like the artisanal touches that go into illegal drugs. That little smiley-face stenciled on to each tab of ecstasy... the baroque charm of the bong you made out of your high school wood shop project... the little pinch of chili powder in your crystal meth. You'll miss these things when Nabisco™ takes over the industry and prices all the craft-drug makers out of business.


Not really. I did appreciate the designs on blotter acid, but they don't really mean anything. And when weed is legal nationwide I'm sure there will be big corporate players like Nabisco, but there will also be small producers that provide the "artisinal touches" that you say we will miss.

Look at alcohol. We can buy Budweiser or Natty Light, but microbrews are abundant. You can buy cheap wine too but you can also spend hundreds of dollars for a bottle of wine. Same thing with hard liquor. You can spend $8 and get a cheap 5th of rotgut vodak or you can shell out a bit more and buy a name brand or you can buy the gimmicky skull-head vodak.

The thing is while you can look at beer or liquor and can't really tell how good it is without trying it, you can look at (and smell) a bag of pot and have a pretty good idea of how good it is.

Look at medical marijuana - They aren't selling Mexican brickweed in those dispensaries. They're selling primo kind bud and they are charging a premium for it. It's actually somewhat ridiculous. You want some "legal" weed for your "medical" condition? Sorry, we don't carry anything that's less than $80 a quarter. What? You mean you were okay buying Mexican ditchweed for $20 a quarter before you got your medical card? Ha!

Given a choice, I wouldn't smoke Mexi-weed either, but it's like me and my friends used to say - "Well, it gets you high" which is about the worst review any batch of pot our dealers 25 years ago would get.

Once it's legal and there are competing brands and retailers nobody is going to want to be known as the "Well, it gets you high" producer of marijuana unless they're solely competing on price.
 
2012-12-13 08:27:52 PM
olddinosaur

$.23/lb?!

LOL

Most of the people here have NO IDEA what they're talking about.

THAT takes the cake though.
 
2012-12-13 08:40:39 PM

wyltoknow: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: My ex recently started dealing weed. At first she did it just to "cover the cost of her own weed" but then she ended up buying a scale, a gun, and expanding her customer base to acquantances of coworkers and friends.

She has a professional job, too, so I have no idea why she's engaging in such risky behavior.

I remember a convo with a dealer once. He was talking about how he had just gotten robbed the night before. Guy held him up for all his cash and weed. He shrugged, meh, it's business. Eff that, you could have lost your life for a few hundred bucks. Another dealer was a severe dumbass who invited "clients" TO HIS HOUSE and showed them the safe and everything. Big surprise one day when he's calling up all his clients demanding to know which one broke into his room and took all his stuff. Come to think of it I don't know any dealers who had happy endings regarding that career choice.


This is why I will never sell any illicit substance. I would rather give it away (and have) than sell.

"There is no room in the drug culture for amateurs."

-Hunter Stockton Thompson
 
2012-12-13 08:41:37 PM

D_Evans45: So who's smoking on the hash and wax?

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I always used to smoke that Purple Urkle straight out of Humboldt county.

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that's the way to go

/pot pictures are stoner porn
//I'll be in my bunk
 
2012-12-13 08:44:54 PM
In California, the stores and the street dealers sell the same weed. Medical stores buy weed and hash from good street suppliers all the time, they call them "vendors". All the weed stores I went to certainly werent growing all that weed on their own property, even if they did cultivate some on site.

You are waaay better off establishing a good street connection if you buy your pot in amounts more than a handful. Ounce prices are high in the shops, and low on the streets. I can go get a top shelf ounce of some really dank OG $225 on the streets, it would be $350 easy in the shops. Their quarter-pound tickets must be ridiculous.

Beyond that, you are waaay better off cultivating your own medicine. A clone is 15 bucks and produces at least 10x as much end product after a few months, often much more. I got an overgrown clone from the weed shop for $35 this Spring and convinced a buddy to grow it, he didnt do much more than put fertilizer at the bottom of the hole and water it every few days. We got over 3 ounces of some killer Sour Diesel, and only such a small amount because we harvested it a little early (bad neighborhood, many thieves). That's $750 for planting something and watering it twice a week.

/One day soon, Mary Jane...
 
2012-12-13 08:50:41 PM

olddinosaur: She is "hooked on the action," she doesn't care about the money. There are many forms of crime which produce a better income than marijuana, and carry a lesser penalty when (not if) you are caught, but they don't have the cachet of the weed dealer.


What kinds of crimes? I suppose maybe embezzling money or something. Robbing gas stations or mugging people sounds too difficult to me and probably has very little reward. Selling marijuana probably isn't a good way to make a living unless you're growing it yourself and moving pounds of the stuff to people you trust.

I think I'd hate being a dealer. People calling you up all the time and asking if you had any and then wanting to come over to your place. And then there's the whole problem of traffic coming in and out of your house. If I even had 3-4 people a day coming over and staying for about 5-10 minutes I'm sure one of my neighbors would take notice. I would feel obligated to smoke them out and convince them to stay for an hour or two even if I really didn't like them.

CSB - A guy I knew once worked for the police department doing data entry work. During the course of his duties he came across the name of another friend who was suspected by the cops of selling pot. In fact it was true that this other guy was selling pot. Nobody was sure how he got on the cops watch list but our best guess was the someone who supplied him or who he supplied to got busted. Or maybe he just had a lot of traffic coming in and out of his home. 

OTOH, only one of the pot dealers I've known has ever gotten busted (for pot) and he was growing and was proud to show off his plants. Well, wait - make that 2 pot dealers. The other guy used to drive a few pounds up to New England from Texas. He got busted twice - the first time he was speeding and had a roach in his ashtray (and 3 pounds in his trunk). The 2nd time he's sure he was set up (got pulled over for no apparent reason - also with a few pounds in his trunk).

They both were doing okay as pot dealers. The guy with the plants used to work shiatty jobs for head shops, bars and grow stores. The other guy didn't have any other job, but had a decent house in a middle class neighborhood. Nothing fancy and neither were exactly rich

All the pot dealers I've known who didn't get busted had real jobs and were much more careful. I wouldn't even call most of them dealers. They were more like people who liked to smoke pot and either supplemented their income by selling or just did favors for friends.
 
2012-12-13 08:51:35 PM
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2012-12-13 09:01:29 PM

SithLord: It's because of the union

Local 404 represent!


shouldn't that be local 420?
 
2012-12-13 09:01:54 PM

johne3819: If your dealer is cutting his weed with rat poison, they're not going to have many customers for long. And I can't see how sugar would even work, wouldn't it just collect in the bottom? As for the Coke/PCP.. why would they use that when they can sell it for much more by itself?


Some dealers are lacing their stuff with high fructose corn syrup. I hear it's irresistible--people will smoke it until they pass out--and it causes munchies 40 times worse than regular medicinal marijuana.
 
2012-12-13 09:05:36 PM
cryinoutloud

You're joking, right? That would render the product damn near unsmokable. Honey blunts are hard enough to deal with, but HCFS? Shenanigans.

/forgot to add to my Boobies: "I'm a legal medicinal grower, so I'm really getting a kick..."
 
2012-12-13 09:22:41 PM
A dispensary might have a couple dozen varieties of hash for sale. And all kinds of edibles and drinkables. Dealers in legal cannabis states will be out of business once the retail stores open, except for the ones that do it as a hobby.
 
2012-12-13 09:24:53 PM

Stratohead: thanks to Medical MJ growers/dispensaries in states other than where I live... the availability of amazingly powerful shiat has exploded its gotten to the point where it's harder to find "dirt weed" than high quality product... which is mostly cool... except that when your paying $80 an 8th weight...baking magic brownies suddenly becomes seriously cost prohibitive.


Wow your getting ripped off.
 
2012-12-13 09:29:17 PM

pedobearapproved: 89 Stick-Up Kid: I won't get my card as long as my dealer keeps supplying the super duper automatic for me. Why would I need to pay $20/g for the same thing I'm already getting at $10/g?

The dispensaries are just for people who want to pay a premium for the edibles and oil.

Because you know you're not going to get ripped off at a dispensary, the dispensary keeps regular hours and doesn't go on "vacation," the dispensary has a lot of choices, I've never met a drug dealer that had more than 3 and most have 1, the dispensary also isn't in the crappiest part of town.

And $10/g sounds like Mexican ditch weed. Unless you're buying in larger ammounts.


Indica. So good girls ask for it by name.

Plus, the dispensary gives free haircuts and massages.
 
2012-12-13 09:33:25 PM
Serious question here:

I've suffered from severe major depression for several years. It's so bad that I even had farking experimental brain surgery last year.

Several people have suggested that pot might provide temporary relief. I haven't found any relevant studies, and my squadron of trusted medical professionals have given me mixed opinions (ranging from extremely negative "it'll worsen your depression" to neutral-but-it's-illegal-so-don't.)

I live in severely conservative Georgia where it's still severely illegal, so that's a risk to consider, too.

Any thoughts about it, either way? Especially, any relevant experiences? 

/fwiw, a trusted close relative lives in Seattle, and has offered to help find a source.
 
2012-12-13 09:35:51 PM

mekki: Users will only give up the illegal stuff if the legal stuff is stronger and cheaper than the illegal stuff. All the black market needs to do in order to keep going is to making a cheaper, stronger product. And given that legal weed will have additional overhead costs as well as being taxed, I don't see it ever being cheaper than the illegal stuff.


It amazes me that people will say anything this stupid in a public forum.

Before you say this again, try to find a bootlegger who'll sell you some cheap moonshine.

Good Luck!
 
2012-12-13 09:54:12 PM

MicroCephallic: Serious question here:

I've suffered from severe major depression for several years. It's so bad that I even had farking experimental brain surgery last year.

Several people have suggested that pot might provide temporary relief. I haven't found any relevant studies, and my squadron of trusted medical professionals have given me mixed opinions (ranging from extremely negative "it'll worsen your depression" to neutral-but-it's-illegal-so-don't.)

I live in severely conservative Georgia where it's still severely illegal, so that's a risk to consider, too.

Any thoughts about it, either way? Especially, any relevant experiences? 

/fwiw, a trusted close relative lives in Seattle, and has offered to help find a source.


Self medication isn't usually a good option. Having depression and anxiety disorder I can tell you it helped me, but a habit has a way of becoming a problem over time if left unchecked. So its really an individual choice if you feel strong enough to keep yourself in check as you wont have medical assistance in doing so (if you have a history substance abuse in your family history its a bad idea). Each person is unique and it might not help you specifically the way you want. They do have strains specifically for depression, but going through a street dealer you wont have access to that like you would at a dispensary.
 
2012-12-13 09:55:34 PM
This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?
 
2012-12-13 09:56:27 PM

knobmaker: mekki: Users will only give up the illegal stuff if the legal stuff is stronger and cheaper than the illegal stuff. All the black market needs to do in order to keep going is to making a cheaper, stronger product. And given that legal weed will have additional overhead costs as well as being taxed, I don't see it ever being cheaper than the illegal stuff.

It amazes me that people will say anything this stupid in a public forum.

Before you say this again, try to find a bootlegger who'll sell you some cheap moonshine.

Good Luck!


Umm there's a lot of those. Were you being sarcastic?
 
2012-12-13 09:56:42 PM

D_Evans45: So who's smoking on the hash and wax?

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I always used to smoke that Purple Urkle straight out of Humboldt county.

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Earl for the win. Look at those trichs its dripping! I miss my TORO double micro circ to circ...
 
2012-12-13 10:00:53 PM

megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?


where is here?

there are farkers everywhere that would prob be willing to help a lady in distress
 
2012-12-13 10:02:02 PM

tweek46420: megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?

where is here?

there are farkers everywhere that would prob be willing to help a lady in distress


The wonderful state of Michigan. Near Detroit: Where the weak are killed and eaten.
 
2012-12-13 10:05:26 PM

Old Smokie: Umm there's a lot of those. Were you being sarcastic?


Really?

How does it compare with the number of bootleggers during Prohibition? How many of your friends buy their liquor from a bootlegger? Do you live in a dry county. Do you really think moonshiners make as much as 1 percent of the liquor sales in this country?
 
2012-12-13 10:06:50 PM

megarian: tweek46420: megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?

where is here?

there are farkers everywhere that would prob be willing to help a lady in distress

The wonderful state of Michigan. Near Detroit: Where the weak are killed and eaten.


i thought Michigan was a medical state? if you already had a card...can't you get one there
 
2012-12-13 10:09:48 PM

tweek46420: megarian: tweek46420: megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?

where is here?

there are farkers everywhere that would prob be willing to help a lady in distress

The wonderful state of Michigan. Near Detroit: Where the weak are killed and eaten.

i thought Michigan was a medical state? if you already had a card...can't you get one there


Not Oakland county. My card expired and since I'm not living in Ingham county anymore, I'm sort of farked. Doctors in Oakland county make money on pills, not pot. I would have to so some serious doctor shopping.

Pot over pills any day. All day.
 
2012-12-13 10:10:52 PM

MicroCephallic: Serious question here:

I've suffered from severe major depression for several years. It's so bad that I even had farking experimental brain surgery last year.

Several people have suggested that pot might provide temporary relief. I haven't found any relevant studies, and my squadron of trusted medical professionals have given me mixed opinions (ranging from extremely negative "it'll worsen your depression" to neutral-but-it's-illegal-so-don't.)

I live in severely conservative Georgia where it's still severely illegal, so that's a risk to consider, too.

Any thoughts about it, either way? Especially, any relevant experiences? 

/fwiw, a trusted close relative lives in Seattle, and has offered to help find a source.


I don't believe it's a cure-all, but if you went so far as to have experimental brain surgery maybe it's worth a try. Just because someone says they smoke pot all the time and they feel great doesn't mean it will help your depression.

I've been depressed too and as far as I can tell pot has had nothing but a very short-term effect on it and by "short-term" I mean as long as I was high. And getting high doesn't even always help. I've been very depressed before and smoked pot and the end result was that I was still depressed and just happened to be stoned too.

It's sort of like what Shelby Chong (Tommy Chong's wife) said once. She said pot really helps with PMS. She said her husband smokes it whenever she gets PMS and he says he always feels much better.
 
2012-12-13 10:10:53 PM

megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?


I have a feeling that, after checking your profile, every pothead farker in MI will be sending you EIP (as long as they come back and check this thread as I did) in order to help you out.

/think I'm actually drooling too.
//Ur reel purdy
 
2012-12-13 10:17:09 PM
As someone who hasn't had a connection in years, I'd gladly pay $200/Oz for Mexibrick if I could actually find some.

/There's a large untapped market of people who want weed but can't find it
 
2012-12-13 10:20:05 PM

Valeriyance: megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?

I have a feeling that, after checking your profile, every pothead farker in MI will be sending you EIP (as long as they come back and check this thread as I did) in order to help you out.

/think I'm actually drooling too.
//Ur reel purdy


Awwww well shucks! Thank ya!

Hopefully I will magically encounter a pot fairy at the grocery store. I figure they hang out either by the Doritos or the Fanta.

/if I do, I will share
 
2012-12-13 10:22:44 PM

megarian: Valeriyance: megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?

I have a feeling that, after checking your profile, every pothead farker in MI will be sending you EIP (as long as they come back and check this thread as I did) in order to help you out.

/think I'm actually drooling too.
//Ur reel purdy

Awwww well shucks! Thank ya!

Hopefully I will magically encounter a pot fairy at the grocery store. I figure they hang out either by the Doritos or the Fanta.

/if I do, I will share


got any "hippie" shows around your area.....say what you will about them....but they usually have good herb
 
2012-12-13 10:38:40 PM
If you would like a little bit of pot out in the sticks, I can put a couple Farkers in contact with someone. It wont be more than a joint or twos-worth, but if you aren't a pothead, even relatively small nuggets can bring some much needed joy these holidays.

eip
 
2012-12-13 10:41:16 PM

Happy Hours: And when weed is legal nationwide I'm sure there will be big corporate players like Nabisco, but there will also be small producers that provide the "artisinal touches" that you say we will miss.


Well argued. But I was just kidding around. It's probably the artisanal cold medicine I'm on that has me in such a cheeky mood.

When the glorious day of corporate-branded pot arrives, you and I can enjoy a celebratory Kraft® Lunchables™ With Pot together. (It'll be a one-hitter and about fifty saltines).
 
2012-12-13 10:48:18 PM

D_Evans45: If you would like a little bit of pot out in the sticks, I can put a couple Farkers in contact with someone. It wont be more than a joint or twos-worth, but if you aren't a pothead, even relatively small nuggets can bring some much needed joy these holidays.

eip


My email is in my profile. Just sayin'.
 
2012-12-13 10:57:07 PM

DerpHerder: MicroCephallic: Serious question here:
Several people have suggested that pot might provide temporary relief.
---snip---

Self medication isn't usually a good option. Having depression and anxiety disorder I can tell you it helped me, but a habit has a way of becoming a problem over time if left unchecked. So its really an individual choice if you feel strong enough to keep yourself in check as you wont have medical assistance in doing so (if you have a history substance abuse in your family history its a bad idea). Each person is unique and it might not help you specifically the way you want. They do have strains specifically for depression, but going through a street dealer you wont have access to that like you would at a dispensary.


Thanks for your thoughtful response. I guess this question is too complicated for a simple "yes/no" answer.
 
2012-12-13 11:03:43 PM

Happy Hours: MicroCephallic: Serious question here:
I've suffered from severe major depression for several years.


-----snip-----

I don't believe it's a cure-all, but if you went so far as to have experimental brain surgery maybe it's worth a try. Just because someone says they smoke pot all the time and they feel great doesn't mean it will help your depression.

I've been depressed too and as far as I can tell pot has had nothing but a very short-term effect on it and by "short-term" I mean as long as I was high. And getting high doesn't even always help. I've been very depressed before and smoked pot and the end result was that I was still depressed and just happened to be stoned too.

It's sort of like what Shelby Chong (Tommy Chong's wife) said once. She said pot really helps with PMS. She said her husband smokes it whenever she gets PMS and he says he always feels much better.


Thanks for sharing your own experience. It means a lot. Also, maybe my wife should smoke it so she gets some relief from my depression. :)
 
2012-12-13 11:05:05 PM

megarian: D_Evans45: If you would like a little bit of pot out in the sticks, I can put a couple Farkers in contact with someone. It wont be more than a joint or twos-worth, but if you aren't a pothead, even relatively small nuggets can bring some much needed joy these holidays.

eip

My email is in my profile. Just sayin'.


oh joy, the magic of fark! let us celebrate the season with some music: the kind, nsfw lyrics
 
2012-12-13 11:11:10 PM

divgradcurl: megarian: D_Evans45: If you would like a little bit of pot out in the sticks, I can put a couple Farkers in contact with someone. It wont be more than a joint or twos-worth, but if you aren't a pothead, even relatively small nuggets can bring some much needed joy these holidays.

eip

My email is in my profile. Just sayin'.

oh joy, the magic of fark! let us celebrate the season with some music: the kind, nsfw lyrics


That. Was. Fantastic.
 
2012-12-13 11:26:21 PM

megarian: D_Evans45: If you would like a little bit of pot out in the sticks, I can put a couple Farkers in contact with someone. It wont be more than a joint or twos-worth, but if you aren't a pothead, even relatively small nuggets can bring some much needed joy these holidays.

eip

My email is in my profile. Just sayin'.


i have a bad feeling you are going to get so much PIE
 
2012-12-13 11:27:43 PM

megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?



The way I usually find weed in a strange town ...

Go to a restaurant, any restaurant, and discretely ask any stoner looking waiter where you can score some weed and imply there is an extra nice gratuity tip on the line. If they aren't holding, someone else on the wait staff is. If they aren't holding, someone on the kitchen staff is.

/waited tables in college
//smoked a lot of weed in the alley behind work
 
2012-12-13 11:31:18 PM

knobmaker: mekki: Users will only give up the illegal stuff if the legal stuff is stronger and cheaper than the illegal stuff. All the black market needs to do in order to keep going is to making a cheaper, stronger product. And given that legal weed will have additional overhead costs as well as being taxed, I don't see it ever being cheaper than the illegal stuff.

It amazes me that people will say anything this stupid in a public forum.

Before you say this again, try to find a bootlegger who'll sell you some cheap moonshine.

Good Luck!


Are you in the same thread as I am? Because people are saying what I wrote in many of the posts. Try reading before you type. It prevents you from sounding stupid.
 
2012-12-13 11:33:36 PM

MicroCephallic: Serious question here: I've suffered from severe major depression for several years. It's so bad that I even had farking experimental brain surgery last year.

Any thoughts about it, either way? Especially, any relevant experiences?



Tread very lightly here. When you're ingesting cannabis you're playing with your brain chemistry. People with existing mental issues risk exacerbating them by introducing new chemicals. Your brain is probably much more sensitive than the average person, you probably have more to worry about in the way of adverse effects versus the average person. If you ever do decide to imbibe cannabis, do so with a trusted family member or friend around.

My 2 cents. Cannabis did not induce depression in me itself, but the habits I indulged in while constantly using cannabis eventually did lead me to some depression as a young man. This happens to a very small fraction of the population (those who become full blown sun-up/sun-down potheads). Some people, those who can't exercise moderation (everything in moderation!), start to engage in cannabis use as an "escape" from your life. Sounds cliche, but when you're baked 24/7, your shiatty job and life situation are furthest from your mind. You can concentrate on your books, your video games, your internet, things you wouldn't otherwise be able to concentrate on. Because if you had a clear head, you'd be out getting a better job and improving your situation. But as long as I had some weed, it didn't matter.

If your curiosity gets the best of you, start with a small hit in good company and see what happens. At worst, youll have ~1.5 hours of uncomfortable thoughts. If you do feel negative effects in the slightest, flush the weed down the toilet and call good riddance. If you do indeed find relief, please try to do so in moderation. This is the difference between having a beer at dinner, and drinking a fifth at home every night.

/Heavy use = Chances for more depression
 
2012-12-13 11:35:52 PM
If it was made legal nationally you would see companies like Archer Daniels Midland and Philip Morris planting ten thousand acres at a clip using all kinds of science and best practices in growing a consistent crop. The weed wouldn't knock you on your ass like it does now, you would be able to dial in a buzz with a greater deal of control. You wouldn't bother with all the elaborate nonsense of bongs and vaporizers etc. That would quickly make you look like a pot geezer. The future would be pot in a cigarette form and it would cost about what cigarettes cost today and maybe even less since it isn't as addictive it wouldn't sustain a really high tax rate. A pack of 20 pot cigarettes would last you a week or at least several days unless you were a total burnout. The savings would be huge on the criminal justice side, the dealers would dry up and blow away in a matter of a year as well.
The shift towards going after harder drugs would be immediate and purposely jacked up to scare hard drug folks back onto pot where possible. Added prison room would allow for longer sentences for other drugs.

In the very short run people would immediately take the seeds from their weed bags and just start growing their own plants at home with zero fear of arrest and in just a few months the indoor pot grower movement would explode and crush the local dealers even faster than the big guys who would come in a second and all powerful wave. State revenues would spike while state costs would drop. There would probably be a hit on alcohol sales and lower rates of DUI to some degree as well.

My guess is the final form it would all take isn't even close to what a street dealer imagines it would be. Five years after it became legal nationally the entire industry would be in place and mature. We would even see loads of it smuggled out of the country to places like mexico as the flow reversed. It might even force Mexico to legalize it preemptively or in lock step with us and they would pressure the US government to allow free trade across the borders to avoid being shut out as thousands of weed farmers in mexico and south of there were threatened with a loss of jobs. We would also get the grow operations out of the national parks where they create havoc.
 
2012-12-13 11:40:52 PM

D_Evans45: Because if you had a clear head, you'd be out getting a better job and improving your situation.


*snicker* Yeah, that's exactly what happens. It did wonders for my depression and had FAR fewer side effects than the medication I take now that doesn't work half as well. I smoked at least an Oz every month.


/Haven't had any in years and rely on the medication now
//Have not "magically" found the motivation to go out and get a better job or improve my situation. I just drag myself from day to day like everyone else
///It's not the cannabis, it's the person using it
 
2012-12-13 11:47:17 PM

Witty Comment: cryinoutloud You're joking, right? That would render the product damn near unsmokable. Honey blunts are hard enough to deal with, but HCFS? Shenanigans.
/forgot to add to my Boobies: "I'm a legal medicinal grower, so I'm really getting a kick..."


No, man, I'm not kidding. I smoked some a while ago, and then I went for a walk. I I found myself in this place....I don't even know where it was. I took a picture though

i.telegraph.co.uk

MicroCephallic: I've been depressed too and as far as I can tell pot has had nothing but a very short-term effect on it and by "short-term" I mean as long as I was high. And getting high doesn't even always help. I've been very depressed before and smoked pot and the end result was that I was still depressed and just happened to be stoned too.


That's kind of how I am. If I'm feeling good, I don't get stoned as much. If I'm feeling bad, I'm happier stoned, but it doesn't really help with depression. It just gets me through the day so maybe the next day I'll feel better.

A day with pot is still better than most days without it.
 
2012-12-13 11:54:37 PM
deanayer: You wouldn't bother with all the elaborate nonsense of bongs and vaporizers etc.

How young are you?
 
2012-12-14 12:03:31 AM

megarian: That. Was. Fantastic.


i try to share good stuff. :-)

cryinoutloud:

i am glad you still find a little enjoyment of things through pot. given some of your stories concerning alcohol in the past, i would have assumed you were straight-edge now. maybe i haven't been paying close enough attention, but this is nice to hear.
 
2012-12-14 12:04:28 AM
If I was in Seattle right now I'd be smoking a Blueberry joint from the dispensary a few blocks up the street.

Wait a minute, I AM in Seattle right now...
 
2012-12-14 12:11:29 AM

cryinoutloud: Witty Comment: cryinoutloud You're joking, right? That would render the product damn near unsmokable. Honey blunts are hard enough to deal with, but HCFS? Shenanigans.
/forgot to add to my Boobies: "I'm a legal medicinal grower, so I'm really getting a kick..."

No, man, I'm not kidding. I smoked some a while ago, and then I went for a walk. I I found myself in this place....I don't even know where it was. I took a picture though

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 850x531]

Man. If I were a little girl I would totes make that my desktop.

MicroCephallic: I've been depressed too and as far as I can tell pot has had nothing but a very short-term effect on it and by "short-term" I mean as long as I was high. And getting high doesn't even always help. I've been very depressed before and smoked pot and the end result was that I was still depressed and just happened to be stoned too.

That's kind of how I am. If I'm feeling good, I don't get stoned as much. If I'm feeling bad, I'm happier stoned, but it doesn't really help with depression. It just gets me through the day so maybe the next day I'll feel better.

A day with pot is still better than most days without it.

 
2012-12-14 12:16:08 AM

cryinoutloud: Witty Comment: cryinoutloud No, man, I'm not kidding. I smoked some a while ago, and then I went for a walk. I I found myself in this place....I don't even know where it was. I took a picture though

A day with pot is still better than most days without it.


Lets try that again.

Man, if I was a little girl I would totes make that my desktop. 

/puts down the bowl
 
2012-12-14 12:54:16 AM
my favorite pot jokes comes from Zach Galifianakis when he hosted SNL. He had a large pad on an easel with different comments written on it that he kept revealing by tearing one sheet off after another. The best one just said "I smoke so much pot I sometimes forget to smoke pot"
/comedy gold
 
2012-12-14 12:55:00 AM

Fail in Human Form: D_Evans45: Because if you had a clear head, you'd be out getting a better job and improving your situation.

*snicker* . It's not the cannabis, it's the person using it



I clearly stated it only affects the very small fraction of people who take it overboard and don't exercise moderation, and merely related my personal experiences. Recreationally using pot never made me depressed, but several years of too much pot certainly contributed to some depression of mine. You can snicker all you want, but it is what it is, and Ive seen it happen to more than just myself over the years.
 
2012-12-14 01:01:34 AM
Also, an ounce a month isn't much, thats barely a gram a day. A gram is just 2 little joints. 2 joints aint shiat.
 
2012-12-14 01:13:39 AM

D_Evans45: Also, an ounce a month isn't much, thats barely a gram a day. A gram is just 2 little joints. 2 joints aint shiat.


Cost was a factor
 
2012-12-14 01:16:24 AM

InmanRoshi: megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?


The way I usually find weed in a strange town ...

Go to a restaurant, any restaurant, and discretely ask any stoner looking waiter where you can score some weed and imply there is an extra nice gratuity tip on the line. If they aren't holding, someone else on the wait staff is. If they aren't holding, someone on the kitchen staff is.

/waited tables in college
//smoked a lot of weed in the alley behind work


I like this approach.

Now I need dust off my social skills.
 
2012-12-14 01:43:15 AM

Fail in Human Form: D_Evans45: Also, an ounce a month isn't much, thats barely a gram a day. A gram is just 2 little joints. 2 joints aint shiat.

Cost was a factor



Well you said "at least an ounce a month" like it was a substantial amount. Thats like saying "I drank at least 2 beers a night" to an alcoholic. Forgive us if we're less than impressed.

/Real potheads smoke 2 joints before they smoke 2 joints, and then they smoke 2 more
//If you told me if I had an 8th to last me a weekend, Id tell you we're taking a trip to the weed shop for another 8th and some more hash
 
2012-12-14 01:49:47 AM

D_Evans45: Fail in Human Form: D_Evans45: Also, an ounce a month isn't much, thats barely a gram a day. A gram is just 2 little joints. 2 joints aint shiat.

Cost was a factor


Well you said "at least an ounce a month" like it was a substantial amount. Thats like saying "I drank at least 2 beers a night" to an alcoholic. Forgive us if we're less than impressed.

/Real potheads smoke 2 joints before they smoke 2 joints, and then they smoke 2 more
//If you told me if I had an 8th to last me a weekend, Id tell you we're taking a trip to the weed shop for another 8th and some more hash


Fair enough. It was enough to keep me stoned after work and all day on the weekends.
 
2012-12-14 01:56:29 AM

D_Evans45: Fail in Human Form: D_Evans45: Because if you had a clear head, you'd be out getting a better job and improving your situation.

*snicker* . It's not the cannabis, it's the person using it


I clearly stated it only affects the very small fraction of people who take it overboard and don't exercise moderation, and merely related my personal experiences. Recreationally using pot never made me depressed, but several years of too much pot certainly contributed to some depression of mine. You can snicker all you want, but it is what it is, and Ive seen it happen to more than just myself over the years.


I can completely relate with your experience. Its about the person using it, and as you slip into constantly using something without control it becomes a problem. You shift your priorities towards it and only it, and care less about the day to day. I went down the road of becoming a pothead, and it eventually landed me in legal trouble that I'm currently dealing with. I was smoking 1.5 grams of oil and a half ounce of weed every week. To support that I turned to selling and that's was my down fall. While I'm angry that I got into the trouble over a plant I'm actually glad it happened. I don't know how else I would have moved on from it because I allowed it to take over my life. The saddest part was honestly the loss of my glass collection it was getting very respectable and some $2500 in value. Art gone forever. Wish me luck my next court date is in January.
 
2012-12-14 02:00:25 AM
I do have a question for you then. I smoked daily for about year, on the weekends there would be points where I'd just "give up" because it seemed like I wasn't getting any higher and just had a mellow buzz no matter how much I smoked so I didn't want to waste the weed. If you're putting away a couple ounces a month, did you have that problem or was it just the shiatty weed I had available?
 
2012-12-14 02:11:11 AM

Fail in Human Form: I do have a question for you then. I smoked daily for about year, on the weekends there would be points where I'd just "give up" because it seemed like I wasn't getting any higher and just had a mellow buzz no matter how much I smoked so I didn't want to waste the weed. If you're putting away a couple ounces a month, did you have that problem or was it just the shiatty weed I had available?


for me personally....i find if i continually smoke the same strain for a while, it isn't as effective....if i mix it up i stay medicated...add some hash in there and get straight blazed
 
2012-12-14 02:21:55 AM

Fail in Human Form: I do have a question for you then. I smoked daily for about year, on the weekends there would be points where I'd just "give up" because it seemed like I wasn't getting any higher and just had a mellow buzz no matter how much I smoked so I didn't want to waste the weed. If you're putting away a couple ounces a month, did you have that problem or was it just the shiatty weed I had available?



It must have been your weed. Id smoke every 30 minutes unless something prevented me from it. I also had a steady diet of hash, wax, and pot edibles at all times. "Not being able to get higher" was not a problem I ever faced.
 
2012-12-14 02:22:36 AM
Also, megarian, I tried to email you and I believe you have a typo in your EIP.
 
2012-12-14 02:23:04 AM

tweek46420: Fail in Human Form: I do have a question for you then. I smoked daily for about year, on the weekends there would be points where I'd just "give up" because it seemed like I wasn't getting any higher and just had a mellow buzz no matter how much I smoked so I didn't want to waste the weed. If you're putting away a couple ounces a month, did you have that problem or was it just the shiatty weed I had available?

for me personally....i find if i continually smoke the same strain for a while, it isn't as effective....if i mix it up i stay medicated...add some hash in there and get straight blazed


Maybe that was the problem then, I bought it by the quarter pound and would just buy more when I would get low.

/Then one day my dealer just disappeared and sadness swept over the Fail household
//Can we just make it legal FFS?
 
2012-12-14 02:26:52 AM

Fail in Human Form: I do have a question for you then. I smoked daily for about year, on the weekends there would be points where I'd just "give up" because it seemed like I wasn't getting any higher and just had a mellow buzz no matter how much I smoked so I didn't want to waste the weed. If you're putting away a couple ounces a month, did you have that problem or was it just the shiatty weed I had available?


Yes I would take tolerence breaks smoking less (most often when I had no weed/oil on hand). Oil is another way to up your intake as a single oil rip is on par with smoking the fattest bowl pack in one rip (I'd usually do 3 oil dabs at a time). There were plenty of times where I was smoking just to smoke even though I was already high as a kite. But to simply answer your question there is a point where smoking would just be a waste but it didn't matter to me because it was free. shiatty weed would not get me high just would result in a bad headache, but the profit margin is really good. I could sell an ounce of shiat weed (not brick weed but close) for 100$ oz and still make out like a fat cat and or turn the profit into shiatty oil. I only sold shiat weed when I couldn't get my hands on the good stuff I have standards.
 
2012-12-14 02:32:18 AM
I moved from Boulder, CO to South Dakota.

Stupid school.
 
2012-12-14 02:50:21 AM
Want to prevent most crime and at the same time improve humanity in one swoop? The government should legalize and claim all recreational drug creation in one go. The government should grow pot, make crack, produce heroin, meth, whatever using the cleanest, safest, cheapest methods possible. Market it. Tax it. Provide drug-centers that are clean environments for junkies to shoot up and make that the only legal place to do so. Every morning scrape up the dead bodies of the dumbest of the species for cremation.

shiathole countries/criminals thriving on drug trade? Tits up. Gene pool? Cleaned. Economy? Fixed. Overpopulation? Solved.

Modern civilization, while wonderful, has created a grave error in literally enabling people too stupid to live in a survival of the smartest setting prosper far longer than they should. In the wild, they would have been culled from the herd long before adolescence.
 
2012-12-14 03:15:18 AM

DerpHerder: Fail in Human Form: I do have a question for you then. ..

There were plenty of times where I was smoking just to smoke even though I was already high as a kite.



this too. the habit compels you more than anything, id still have the urge smoke even if was still visibly blown. id take a hit between just about every ~7 minute call of duty match if i was gaming, to calm my nerves or excitement. i get into my games.

after meals or sex or periods of high physical activity the urge was strongest no matter how stoned i already was. i could have already smoked 5 dabs of wax in that very hour, after dinner im going outside to hit the bong. i also had an affinity for the act of ripping the bong, it was half of the "addiction".
 
2012-12-14 03:34:20 AM

D_Evans45: i also had an affinity for the act of ripping the bong, it was half of the "addiction".


I like your style. Glass and shopping for it became more exciting and enjoyable then smoking itself. Some people don't understand how someone could buy $600 pieces, and I'd simply tell them it was because I didn't have enough for the $1000 pillar I really wanted. To me its the perfect combination of form, function, and art. Losing my glass was a bigger blow then any of my legal charges and or the betrayal of someone you know flipping on you (especially when they are a bigger fish then you). But hey thats one of the special things about glass its inherently impermanent.
 
2012-12-14 06:37:30 AM

D_Evans45: Well you said "at least an ounce a month" like it was a substantial amount. Thats like saying "I drank at least 2 beers a night" to an alcoholic. Forgive us if we're less than impressed.


Not really. If you hold a job - you know, a regular job-type job an ounce of kind bud a month is probably about right. It's nothing to brag about, but then again drinking 10 beers a night isn't anything to brag about either.

If you're just a fairly normal person and don't smoke before work, go to your job and smoke about a gram every night and maybe take a day off from toking a few times a month an ounce will last you a month.
 
2012-12-14 01:51:29 PM

deanayer: You wouldn't bother with all the elaborate nonsense of bongs and vaporizers etc. That would quickly make you look like a pot geezer. The future would be pot in a cigarette form and it would cost about what cigarettes cost today and maybe even less since it isn't as addictive it wouldn't sustain a really high tax rate. A pack of 20 pot cigarettes would last you a week or at least several days unless you were a total burnout.


I disagree with this. Vaporizors are a much healthier alternative to smoking that doesn't have the delay of effects that edibles do. It has nothing to do with legality. I wouldn't go back to smoking if it was made legal. If anything I think smoking might decline with legalization as people become more informed, and the technology for safer consumption progresses more quickly without the worry of legal issues. 

Also, cigarette form would be far more than one person would need at once, so it would be a very inconvenient way for most to get their buzz (to smoke a portion then put it out for later would be messy and REEK).
 
2012-12-14 02:09:09 PM
Having lived in a state where medical marijuana is legal, I'd have to say the pot in dispensaries is far superior to anything I've bought on the street. It's not cheap, though. If street vendors keep their product priced well below the legal stuff, they'll survive.
 
2012-12-14 04:04:18 PM

pedobearapproved: 89

And $10/g sounds like Mexican ditch weed. Unless you're buying in larger ammounts.


*Checks profile*

Being how you're from San Diego you are not in a weed market like Seattle. You may think you are, but in reality I can get all the same good sh*t (white widow, OG kush, blue dream, lavender etc) for $10/g. In California, they give it a name and charge more because people are morons.

BTW ditch weed in Washington costs ~$50/lb. The only people who smoke that are the rednecks in Eastern Washington without connections to some BC bud. Even there you can find some commercial grade shwag for $100/oz.
 
2012-12-14 04:06:04 PM

89 Stick-Up Kid: pedobearapproved: 89

And $10/g sounds like Mexican ditch weed. Unless you're buying in larger ammounts.

*Checks profile*

Being how you're from San Diego you are not in a weed market like Seattle. You may think you are, but in reality I can get all the same good sh*t (white widow, OG kush, blue dream, lavender etc) for $10/g. In California, they give it a name and charge more because people are morons.

BTW ditch weed in Washington costs ~$50/lb. The only people who smoke that are the rednecks in Eastern Washington without connections to some BC bud. Even there you can find some commercial grade shwag for $100/oz.


FTFM. Damn T9
 
2012-12-14 06:37:21 PM

89 Stick-Up Kid: pedobearapproved: 89

And $10/g sounds like Mexican ditch weed. Unless you're buying in larger ammounts.

*Checks profile*

Being how you're from San Diego you are not in a weed market like Seattle. You may think you are, but in reality I can get all the same good sh*t (white widow, OG kush, blue dream, lavender etc) for $10/g. In California, they give it a name and charge more because people are morons.

BTW ditch weed in Washington costs ~$50/lb. The only people who smoke that are the rednecks in Eastern Washington without connections to some BC bud. Even there you can find some commercial grade shwag for $100/oz.


I agree with most of what you said, except that $10/gm is pretty expensive in my opinion. Granted, I buy an oz at a time. So I suppose $70/0.25 oz isn't too bad a price.

I've never seen/heard of weed for $50/lb. Do you mean $50/oz? That still sounds cheap, even for crap. But, I'd happily pay $200/oz of good shiat vs $50/oz of seedy mexi crap. For $50/lb, I'd make lots of extracts and edibles; that has to be a typo.
 
2012-12-14 07:50:06 PM

Happy Hours: D_Evans45: Well you said "at least an ounce a month" like it was a substantial amount. Thats like saying "I drank at least 2 beers a night" to an alcoholic. Forgive us if we're less than impressed.

Not really .


Yeah, really. He was trying to create an impression of severity by saying "and I smoked at least an ounce a month."

That aint shiat.
 
2012-12-14 07:56:34 PM

DerpHerder: To me its the perfect combination of form, function, and art. Losing my glass was a bigger blow then any of my legal charges and or the betrayal of someone you know flipping on you



I relate to this. I felt like I lost a minor family member when my good glass broke, or maybe a dog. And many of us even name our good bongs, which makes it even worse.

/R.I.P "Lemons"
/Also, fuhk snitches
 
2012-12-14 09:01:37 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Isitoveryet: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: My ex recently started dealing weed. At first she did it just to "cover the cost of her own weed" but then she ended up buying a scale, a gun, and expanding her customer base to acquantances of coworkers and friends.

She has a professional job, too, so I have no idea why she's engaging in such risky behavior.

that is strange, she must be raking in the cash.
It probably seems like easy money until the risk catches up with her.

/a risk i don't care to take.

That's the thing! She isn't making hardly anything (relative to her job). She makes maybe a few hundred a week. If she gets pulled over for speeding when she's on her way to make a delivery, ugh... Just doesn't seem worth it.


My guess is that she was in some personal doldrums, and dealing took her to a completely different side of life with a new and exciting crowd of clients and their friends, even if it's more dangerous. It's intoxicating when you've been too stable too long.
 
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