D_Evans45: So who's smoking on the hash and wax?

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I always used to smoke that Purple Urkle straight out of Humboldt county.

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Earl for the win. Look at those trichs its dripping! I miss my TORO double micro circ to circ...

megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?

where is here?

there are farkers everywhere that would prob be willing to help a lady in distress

Old Smokie: Umm there's a lot of those. Were you being sarcastic?

Really?

How does it compare with the number of bootleggers during Prohibition? How many of your friends buy their liquor from a bootlegger? Do you live in a dry county. Do you really think moonshiners make as much as 1 percent of the liquor sales in this country?

megarian: tweek46420: megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?

where is here?

there are farkers everywhere that would prob be willing to help a lady in distress

The wonderful state of Michigan. Near Detroit: Where the weak are killed and eaten.

i thought Michigan was a medical state? if you already had a card...can't you get one there

MicroCephallic: Serious question here:

I've suffered from severe major depression for several years. It's so bad that I even had farking experimental brain surgery last year.

Several people have suggested that pot might provide temporary relief. I haven't found any relevant studies, and my squadron of trusted medical professionals have given me mixed opinions (ranging from extremely negative "it'll worsen your depression" to neutral-but-it's-illegal-so-don't.)

I live in severely conservative Georgia where it's still severely illegal, so that's a risk to consider, too.

Any thoughts about it, either way? Especially, any relevant experiences? 

/fwiw, a trusted close relative lives in Seattle, and has offered to help find a source.

I don't believe it's a cure-all, but if you went so far as to have experimental brain surgery maybe it's worth a try. Just because someone says they smoke pot all the time and they feel great doesn't mean it will help your depression.

I've been depressed too and as far as I can tell pot has had nothing but a very short-term effect on it and by "short-term" I mean as long as I was high. And getting high doesn't even always help. I've been very depressed before and smoked pot and the end result was that I was still depressed and just happened to be stoned too.

It's sort of like what Shelby Chong (Tommy Chong's wife) said once. She said pot really helps with PMS. She said her husband smokes it whenever she gets PMS and he says he always feels much better.

megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?

I have a feeling that, after checking your profile, every pothead farker in MI will be sending you EIP (as long as they come back and check this thread as I did) in order to help you out.

/think I'm actually drooling too.
//Ur reel purdy

As someone who hasn't had a connection in years, I'd gladly pay $200/Oz for Mexibrick if I could actually find some.

/There's a large untapped market of people who want weed but can't find it

megarian: Valeriyance: megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?

I have a feeling that, after checking your profile, every pothead farker in MI will be sending you EIP (as long as they come back and check this thread as I did) in order to help you out.

/think I'm actually drooling too.
//Ur reel purdy

Awwww well shucks! Thank ya!

Hopefully I will magically encounter a pot fairy at the grocery store. I figure they hang out either by the Doritos or the Fanta.

/if I do, I will share

got any "hippie" shows around your area.....say what you will about them....but they usually have good herb

If you would like a little bit of pot out in the sticks, I can put a couple Farkers in contact with someone. It wont be more than a joint or twos-worth, but if you aren't a pothead, even relatively small nuggets can bring some much needed joy these holidays.

eip

DerpHerder: MicroCephallic: Serious question here:
Several people have suggested that pot might provide temporary relief.
---snip---

Self medication isn't usually a good option. Having depression and anxiety disorder I can tell you it helped me, but a habit has a way of becoming a problem over time if left unchecked. So its really an individual choice if you feel strong enough to keep yourself in check as you wont have medical assistance in doing so (if you have a history substance abuse in your family history its a bad idea). Each person is unique and it might not help you specifically the way you want. They do have strains specifically for depression, but going through a street dealer you wont have access to that like you would at a dispensary.

Thanks for your thoughtful response. I guess this question is too complicated for a simple "yes/no" answer.

Happy Hours: MicroCephallic: Serious question here:
I've suffered from severe major depression for several years.

-----snip-----

I don't believe it's a cure-all, but if you went so far as to have experimental brain surgery maybe it's worth a try. Just because someone says they smoke pot all the time and they feel great doesn't mean it will help your depression.

I've been depressed too and as far as I can tell pot has had nothing but a very short-term effect on it and by "short-term" I mean as long as I was high. And getting high doesn't even always help. I've been very depressed before and smoked pot and the end result was that I was still depressed and just happened to be stoned too.

It's sort of like what Shelby Chong (Tommy Chong's wife) said once. She said pot really helps with PMS. She said her husband smokes it whenever she gets PMS and he says he always feels much better.

Thanks for sharing your own experience. It means a lot. Also, maybe my wife should smoke it so she gets some relief from my depression. :)

megarian: D_Evans45: If you would like a little bit of pot out in the sticks, I can put a couple Farkers in contact with someone. It wont be more than a joint or twos-worth, but if you aren't a pothead, even relatively small nuggets can bring some much needed joy these holidays.

eip

My email is in my profile. Just sayin'.

oh joy, the magic of fark! let us celebrate the season with some music: the kind, nsfw lyrics

megarian: D_Evans45: If you would like a little bit of pot out in the sticks, I can put a couple Farkers in contact with someone. It wont be more than a joint or twos-worth, but if you aren't a pothead, even relatively small nuggets can bring some much needed joy these holidays.

eip

My email is in my profile. Just sayin'.

i have a bad feeling you are going to get so much PIE

megarian: This is making me sick.

I lived where it was legal with a card and i had multiple sources. I moved and I do not know ANYONE out here and have relatively no social life, so human encounters are few and far between (I like the gym... Doubtful I would have any luck there).

I think I'm actually drooling. Gross.

/extremely unhappy chick over here
//hey whiskey... How YOU doin'?


The way I usually find weed in a strange town ...

Go to a restaurant, any restaurant, and discretely ask any stoner looking waiter where you can score some weed and imply there is an extra nice gratuity tip on the line. If they aren't holding, someone else on the wait staff is. If they aren't holding, someone on the kitchen staff is.

/waited tables in college
//smoked a lot of weed in the alley behind work

knobmaker: mekki: Users will only give up the illegal stuff if the legal stuff is stronger and cheaper than the illegal stuff. All the black market needs to do in order to keep going is to making a cheaper, stronger product. And given that legal weed will have additional overhead costs as well as being taxed, I don't see it ever being cheaper than the illegal stuff.

It amazes me that people will say anything this stupid in a public forum.

Before you say this again, try to find a bootlegger who'll sell you some cheap moonshine.

Good Luck!

Are you in the same thread as I am? Because people are saying what I wrote in many of the posts. Try reading before you type. It prevents you from sounding stupid.

MicroCephallic: Serious question here: I've suffered from severe major depression for several years. It's so bad that I even had farking experimental brain surgery last year.

Any thoughts about it, either way? Especially, any relevant experiences?


Tread very lightly here. When you're ingesting cannabis you're playing with your brain chemistry. People with existing mental issues risk exacerbating them by introducing new chemicals. Your brain is probably much more sensitive than the average person, you probably have more to worry about in the way of adverse effects versus the average person. If you ever do decide to imbibe cannabis, do so with a trusted family member or friend around.

My 2 cents. Cannabis did not induce depression in me itself, but the habits I indulged in while constantly using cannabis eventually did lead me to some depression as a young man. This happens to a very small fraction of the population (those who become full blown sun-up/sun-down potheads). Some people, those who can't exercise moderation (everything in moderation!), start to engage in cannabis use as an "escape" from your life. Sounds cliche, but when you're baked 24/7, your shiatty job and life situation are furthest from your mind. You can concentrate on your books, your video games, your internet, things you wouldn't otherwise be able to concentrate on. Because if you had a clear head, you'd be out getting a better job and improving your situation. But as long as I had some weed, it didn't matter.

If your curiosity gets the best of you, start with a small hit in good company and see what happens. At worst, youll have ~1.5 hours of uncomfortable thoughts. If you do feel negative effects in the slightest, flush the weed down the toilet and call good riddance. If you do indeed find relief, please try to do so in moderation. This is the difference between having a beer at dinner, and drinking a fifth at home every night.

/Heavy use = Chances for more depression

If it was made legal nationally you would see companies like Archer Daniels Midland and Philip Morris planting ten thousand acres at a clip using all kinds of science and best practices in growing a consistent crop. The weed wouldn't knock you on your ass like it does now, you would be able to dial in a buzz with a greater deal of control. You wouldn't bother with all the elaborate nonsense of bongs and vaporizers etc. That would quickly make you look like a pot geezer. The future would be pot in a cigarette form and it would cost about what cigarettes cost today and maybe even less since it isn't as addictive it wouldn't sustain a really high tax rate. A pack of 20 pot cigarettes would last you a week or at least several days unless you were a total burnout. The savings would be huge on the criminal justice side, the dealers would dry up and blow away in a matter of a year as well.
The shift towards going after harder drugs would be immediate and purposely jacked up to scare hard drug folks back onto pot where possible. Added prison room would allow for longer sentences for other drugs.

In the very short run people would immediately take the seeds from their weed bags and just start growing their own plants at home with zero fear of arrest and in just a few months the indoor pot grower movement would explode and crush the local dealers even faster than the big guys who would come in a second and all powerful wave. State revenues would spike while state costs would drop. There would probably be a hit on alcohol sales and lower rates of DUI to some degree as well.

My guess is the final form it would all take isn't even close to what a street dealer imagines it would be. Five years after it became legal nationally the entire industry would be in place and mature. We would even see loads of it smuggled out of the country to places like mexico as the flow reversed. It might even force Mexico to legalize it preemptively or in lock step with us and they would pressure the US government to allow free trade across the borders to avoid being shut out as thousands of weed farmers in mexico and south of there were threatened with a loss of jobs. We would also get the grow operations out of the national parks where they create havoc.

D_Evans45: Because if you had a clear head, you'd be out getting a better job and improving your situation.

*snicker* Yeah, that's exactly what happens. It did wonders for my depression and had FAR fewer side effects than the medication I take now that doesn't work half as well. I smoked at least an Oz every month.


/Haven't had any in years and rely on the medication now
//Have not "magically" found the motivation to go out and get a better job or improve my situation. I just drag myself from day to day like everyone else
///It's not the cannabis, it's the person using it

Witty Comment: cryinoutloud You're joking, right? That would render the product damn near unsmokable. Honey blunts are hard enough to deal with, but HCFS? Shenanigans.
/forgot to add to my Boobies: "I'm a legal medicinal grower, so I'm really getting a kick..."

No, man, I'm not kidding. I smoked some a while ago, and then I went for a walk. I I found myself in this place....I don't even know where it was. I took a picture though



MicroCephallic: I've been depressed too and as far as I can tell pot has had nothing but a very short-term effect on it and by "short-term" I mean as long as I was high. And getting high doesn't even always help. I've been very depressed before and smoked pot and the end result was that I was still depressed and just happened to be stoned too.

That's kind of how I am. If I'm feeling good, I don't get stoned as much. If I'm feeling bad, I'm happier stoned, but it doesn't really help with depression. It just gets me through the day so maybe the next day I'll feel better.

A day with pot is still better than most days without it.

megarian: That. Was. Fantastic.

i try to share good stuff. :-)

cryinoutloud:

i am glad you still find a little enjoyment of things through pot. given some of your stories concerning alcohol in the past, i would have assumed you were straight-edge now. maybe i haven't been paying close enough attention, but this is nice to hear.

If I was in Seattle right now I'd be smoking a Blueberry joint from the dispensary a few blocks up the street.

Wait a minute, I AM in Seattle right now...

cryinoutloud: Witty Comment: cryinoutloud You're joking, right? That would render the product damn near unsmokable. Honey blunts are hard enough to deal with, but HCFS? Shenanigans.
/forgot to add to my Boobies: "I'm a legal medicinal grower, so I'm really getting a kick..."

No, man, I'm not kidding. I smoked some a while ago, and then I went for a walk. I I found myself in this place....I don't even know where it was. I took a picture though

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Man. If I were a little girl I would totes make that my desktop.

MicroCephallic: I've been depressed too and as far as I can tell pot has had nothing but a very short-term effect on it and by "short-term" I mean as long as I was high. And getting high doesn't even always help. I've been very depressed before and smoked pot and the end result was that I was still depressed and just happened to be stoned too.

That's kind of how I am. If I'm feeling good, I don't get stoned as much. If I'm feeling bad, I'm happier stoned, but it doesn't really help with depression. It just gets me through the day so maybe the next day I'll feel better.

A day with pot is still better than most days without it.

cryinoutloud: Witty Comment: cryinoutloud No, man, I'm not kidding. I smoked some a while ago, and then I went for a walk. I I found myself in this place....I don't even know where it was. I took a picture though

A day with pot is still better than most days without it.

Lets try that again.

Man, if I was a little girl I would totes make that my desktop. 

/puts down the bowl

my favorite pot jokes comes from Zach Galifianakis when he hosted SNL. He had a large pad on an easel with different comments written on it that he kept revealing by tearing one sheet off after another. The best one just said "I smoke so much pot I sometimes forget to smoke pot"
/comedy gold

Fail in Human Form: D_Evans45: Because if you had a clear head, you'd be out getting a better job and improving your situation.

*snicker* . It's not the cannabis, it's the person using it


I clearly stated it only affects the very small fraction of people who take it overboard and don't exercise moderation, and merely related my personal experiences. Recreationally using pot never made me depressed, but several years of too much pot certainly contributed to some depression of mine. You can snicker all you want, but it is what it is, and Ive seen it happen to more than just myself over the years.

Also, an ounce a month isn't much, thats barely a gram a day. A gram is just 2 little joints. 2 joints aint shiat.

D_Evans45: Also, an ounce a month isn't much, thats barely a gram a day. A gram is just 2 little joints. 2 joints aint shiat.

Cost was a factor

Fail in Human Form: D_Evans45: Also, an ounce a month isn't much, thats barely a gram a day. A gram is just 2 little joints. 2 joints aint shiat.

Cost was a factor


Well you said "at least an ounce a month" like it was a substantial amount. Thats like saying "I drank at least 2 beers a night" to an alcoholic. Forgive us if we're less than impressed.

/Real potheads smoke 2 joints before they smoke 2 joints, and then they smoke 2 more
//If you told me if I had an 8th to last me a weekend, Id tell you we're taking a trip to the weed shop for another 8th and some more hash

D_Evans45: Fail in Human Form: D_Evans45: Also, an ounce a month isn't much, thats barely a gram a day. A gram is just 2 little joints. 2 joints aint shiat.

Cost was a factor


Well you said "at least an ounce a month" like it was a substantial amount. Thats like saying "I drank at least 2 beers a night" to an alcoholic. Forgive us if we're less than impressed.

/Real potheads smoke 2 joints before they smoke 2 joints, and then they smoke 2 more
//If you told me if I had an 8th to last me a weekend, Id tell you we're taking a trip to the weed shop for another 8th and some more hash

Fair enough. It was enough to keep me stoned after work and all day on the weekends.

D_Evans45: Fail in Human Form: D_Evans45: Because if you had a clear head, you'd be out getting a better job and improving your situation.

*snicker* . It's not the cannabis, it's the person using it


I clearly stated it only affects the very small fraction of people who take it overboard and don't exercise moderation, and merely related my personal experiences. Recreationally using pot never made me depressed, but several years of too much pot certainly contributed to some depression of mine. You can snicker all you want, but it is what it is, and Ive seen it happen to more than just myself over the years.

I can completely relate with your experience. Its about the person using it, and as you slip into constantly using something without control it becomes a problem. You shift your priorities towards it and only it, and care less about the day to day. I went down the road of becoming a pothead, and it eventually landed me in legal trouble that I'm currently dealing with. I was smoking 1.5 grams of oil and a half ounce of weed every week. To support that I turned to selling and that's was my down fall. While I'm angry that I got into the trouble over a plant I'm actually glad it happened. I don't know how else I would have moved on from it because I allowed it to take over my life. The saddest part was honestly the loss of my glass collection it was getting very respectable and some $2500 in value. Art gone forever. Wish me luck my next court date is in January.

I do have a question for you then. I smoked daily for about year, on the weekends there would be points where I'd just "give up" because it seemed like I wasn't getting any higher and just had a mellow buzz no matter how much I smoked so I didn't want to waste the weed. If you're putting away a couple ounces a month, did you have that problem or was it just the shiatty weed I had available?

Fail in Human Form: I do have a question for you then. I smoked daily for about year, on the weekends there would be points where I'd just "give up" because it seemed like I wasn't getting any higher and just had a mellow buzz no matter how much I smoked so I didn't want to waste the weed. If you're putting away a couple ounces a month, did you have that problem or was it just the shiatty weed I had available?

for me personally....i find if i continually smoke the same strain for a while, it isn't as effective....if i mix it up i stay medicated...add some hash in there and get straight blazed

Fail in Human Form: I do have a question for you then. I smoked daily for about year, on the weekends there would be points where I'd just "give up" because it seemed like I wasn't getting any higher and just had a mellow buzz no matter how much I smoked so I didn't want to waste the weed. If you're putting away a couple ounces a month, did you have that problem or was it just the shiatty weed I had available?


It must have been your weed. Id smoke every 30 minutes unless something prevented me from it. I also had a steady diet of hash, wax, and pot edibles at all times. "Not being able to get higher" was not a problem I ever faced.

Also, megarian, I tried to email you and I believe you have a typo in your EIP.

tweek46420: Fail in Human Form: I do have a question for you then. I smoked daily for about year, on the weekends there would be points where I'd just "give up" because it seemed like I wasn't getting any higher and just had a mellow buzz no matter how much I smoked so I didn't want to waste the weed. If you're putting away a couple ounces a month, did you have that problem or was it just the shiatty weed I had available?

for me personally....i find if i continually smoke the same strain for a while, it isn't as effective....if i mix it up i stay medicated...add some hash in there and get straight blazed

Maybe that was the problem then, I bought it by the quarter pound and would just buy more when I would get low.

/Then one day my dealer just disappeared and sadness swept over the Fail household
//Can we just make it legal FFS?

Fail in Human Form: I do have a question for you then. I smoked daily for about year, on the weekends there would be points where I'd just "give up" because it seemed like I wasn't getting any higher and just had a mellow buzz no matter how much I smoked so I didn't want to waste the weed. If you're putting away a couple ounces a month, did you have that problem or was it just the shiatty weed I had available?

Yes I would take tolerence breaks smoking less (most often when I had no weed/oil on hand). Oil is another way to up your intake as a single oil rip is on par with smoking the fattest bowl pack in one rip (I'd usually do 3 oil dabs at a time). There were plenty of times where I was smoking just to smoke even though I was already high as a kite. But to simply answer your question there is a point where smoking would just be a waste but it didn't matter to me because it was free. shiatty weed would not get me high just would result in a bad headache, but the profit margin is really good. I could sell an ounce of shiat weed (not brick weed but close) for 100$ oz and still make out like a fat cat and or turn the profit into shiatty oil. I only sold shiat weed when I couldn't get my hands on the good stuff I have standards.

I moved from Boulder, CO to South Dakota.

Stupid school.

Want to prevent most crime and at the same time improve humanity in one swoop? The government should legalize and claim all recreational drug creation in one go. The government should grow pot, make crack, produce heroin, meth, whatever using the cleanest, safest, cheapest methods possible. Market it. Tax it. Provide drug-centers that are clean environments for junkies to shoot up and make that the only legal place to do so. Every morning scrape up the dead bodies of the dumbest of the species for cremation.

shiathole countries/criminals thriving on drug trade? Tits up. Gene pool? Cleaned. Economy? Fixed. Overpopulation? Solved.

Modern civilization, while wonderful, has created a grave error in literally enabling people too stupid to live in a survival of the smartest setting prosper far longer than they should. In the wild, they would have been culled from the herd long before adolescence.

DerpHerder: Fail in Human Form: I do have a question for you then. ..

There were plenty of times where I was smoking just to smoke even though I was already high as a kite.


this too. the habit compels you more than anything, id still have the urge smoke even if was still visibly blown. id take a hit between just about every ~7 minute call of duty match if i was gaming, to calm my nerves or excitement. i get into my games.

after meals or sex or periods of high physical activity the urge was strongest no matter how stoned i already was. i could have already smoked 5 dabs of wax in that very hour, after dinner im going outside to hit the bong. i also had an affinity for the act of ripping the bong, it was half of the "addiction".

D_Evans45: i also had an affinity for the act of ripping the bong, it was half of the "addiction".

I like your style. Glass and shopping for it became more exciting and enjoyable then smoking itself. Some people don't understand how someone could buy $600 pieces, and I'd simply tell them it was because I didn't have enough for the $1000 pillar I really wanted. To me its the perfect combination of form, function, and art. Losing my glass was a bigger blow then any of my legal charges and or the betrayal of someone you know flipping on you (especially when they are a bigger fish then you). But hey thats one of the special things about glass its inherently impermanent.

D_Evans45: Well you said "at least an ounce a month" like it was a substantial amount. Thats like saying "I drank at least 2 beers a night" to an alcoholic. Forgive us if we're less than impressed.

Not really. If you hold a job - you know, a regular job-type job an ounce of kind bud a month is probably about right. It's nothing to brag about, but then again drinking 10 beers a night isn't anything to brag about either.

If you're just a fairly normal person and don't smoke before work, go to your job and smoke about a gram every night and maybe take a day off from toking a few times a month an ounce will last you a month.