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2012-12-13 01:55:38 PM  
Publishers have been trying to get Google to pay them for showing their online content in Web searches as more and more readers of the printed word defect to online media.
 
Huh?  You don't have to put your content online, ya know.  As well, there are very simple tags you can put in a very simple text file on your server telling Google not to index your site.
 
2012-12-13 04:57:09 PM  
I don't understand the issue here. You don't read the entire article on Google News, you click on the article headline at Google News, which takes you to the publisher's site. Google isn't stealing anything, or violating copyright as far as I can tell. They're acting as a free portal, directing readers to news sites they might not otherwise visit.

Am I missing something here? Do these idiots really have a problem with one of the biggest web sites in the world sending traffic their way?
 
2012-12-13 05:00:07 PM  
I can get mine for free, subby, and save that 5 bucks for beer.
 
2012-12-13 05:56:15 PM  
Wait, the latest stories are now on Fark?

When did they get back to this?

/get off my lawn...
 
2012-12-13 06:19:01 PM  

downstairs: Publishers have been trying to get Google to pay them for showing their online content in Web searches as more and more readers of the printed word defect to online media.
 
Huh?  You don't have to put your content online, ya know.  As well, there are very simple tags you can put in a very simple text file on your server telling Google not to index your site.


Do you not understand that the purpose of putting your content online is to make money?
 
2012-12-13 06:22:35 PM  
""We have reached an agreement that ends all litigation. From now on Google and Belgian French-language publishers will partner on a broad range of business initiatives," Google said in a statement.

"These include working with the publishers to ensure that readers pay for the news via paywalls and subscriptions..."

Huh? How is Google going to do that?
 
2012-12-13 06:22:52 PM  

downstairs: Huh?  You don't have to put your content online, ya know.  As well, there are very simple tags you can put in a very simple text file on your server telling Google not to index your site.


What if they want their headlines but nothing else to show up?
 
2012-12-13 06:42:27 PM  
... What would happen if they paid with a crisp $1 bill and two crisp $2 bills?

/I got a free TF subscription, [sic] and one of the best laughs of my life.
 
2012-12-13 06:43:35 PM  

Ess_Aytch: Do these idiots really have a problem with one of the biggest web sites in the world sending traffic their way?


What these idiots have a problem with is the low cost of duplication and distribution of information. They're used to a world where people did it by printing it on pieces of paper with high startup costs, which made it hard for new entrants to come into the market and that made them a lot of money, so they'd like that back, please.
 
2012-12-13 07:16:24 PM  
FTA: "These include working with the publishers to ensure that readers pay for the news via paywalls and subscriptions "

t3.gstatic.com
When i google imaged this it was from a separate fark page but I didn't realize it at first. I was like "wtf why does google image keep bringing me to a random fark page....? OHHHH lulz"
 
2012-12-13 07:42:14 PM  

SlowTimedRapid: ... What would happen if they paid with a crisp $1 bill and two crisp $2 bills?

/I got a free TF subscription, [sic] and one of the best laughs of my life.

Taco Bell calls the cops.
 
2012-12-13 07:50:55 PM  
If I were Google and some news site hassled me like this, I'd just delist their entire TLD(s) and send them a, "Well, bye." email. Enjoy your quick fade into obscurity.
 
2012-12-13 09:37:47 PM  

SlowTimedRapid: ... What would happen if they paid with a crisp $1 bill and two crisp $2 bills?.


You'd be reading news on a strippers breasts...
 
2012-12-13 10:21:33 PM  
People pay for Fark?
 
2012-12-13 11:30:54 PM  

SlowTimedRapid: ... What would happen if they paid with a crisp $1 bill and two crisp $2 bills?

/I got a free TF subscription, [sic] and one of the best laughs of my life.


http://snltranscripts.jt.org/88/88achangebank1.phtml

"We have been in this business a long time. With our experience, we're gonna have ideas for change combinations that probably haven't occurred to you. If you have a fifty-dollar bill, we can give you fifty singles. We can give you forty-nine singles and ten dimes. We can give you twenty-five twos. Come talk to us. We are not going to give you change that you don't want. If you come to us with a hundred-dollar bill, we're not going to give you two-thousand nickels.. - unless that meets your particular change needs. We will give you.. the change.. equal to.. the amount of money.. that you want change for!"
 
2012-12-13 11:55:35 PM  

Ess_Aytch: I don't understand the issue here. You don't read the entire article on Google News, you click on the article headline at Google News, which takes you to the publisher's site. Google isn't stealing anything, or violating copyright as far as I can tell. They're acting as a free portal, directing readers to news sites they might not otherwise visit.

Am I missing something here? Do these idiots really have a problem with one of the biggest web sites in the world sending traffic their way?


With the way attention spans are nowadays, a lot of people don't actually read news stories. They read headlines. The papers are pissed about the users that will just scan the google news headlines without ever going to the news site.

It happens a lot here on fark too. How many times do you find that people read a funny headline and then came to comment in the thread without ever having read the article? The online paper invested time/money into publishing an article, some guy in his mom's basement posted a witty one liner about the article on fark, and you come here to comment on the article without having ever clicked to the paper's website.
 
2012-12-14 12:57:15 AM  
I would have never gone to your news paper and even viewd some ads if it wern't for goole.

Besides - Google only provided a pointer to you.. had the headline, sure... Don't you want viewers?
 
2012-12-14 01:31:41 AM  

RogermcAllen: Ess_Aytch: I don't understand the issue here. You don't read the entire article on Google News, you click on the article headline at Google News, which takes you to the publisher's site. Google isn't stealing anything, or violating copyright as far as I can tell. They're acting as a free portal, directing readers to news sites they might not otherwise visit.

Am I missing something here? Do these idiots really have a problem with one of the biggest web sites in the world sending traffic their way?

With the way attention spans are nowadays, a lot of people don't actually read news stories. They read headlines. The papers are pissed about the users that will just scan the google news headlines without ever going to the news site.

It happens a lot here on fark too. How many times do you find that people read a funny headline and then came to comment in the thread without ever having read the article? The online paper invested time/money into publishing an article, some guy in his mom's basement posted a witty one liner about the article on fark, and you come here to comment on the article without having ever clicked to the paper's website.


You missed the real sore spot: Google's making money off this and the newspapers aren't.

IDK HOW Google is making money. But then, I have Adblock Plus.
 
2012-12-14 02:47:24 AM  
Totalfark is for people who have never heard of reddit.
 
2012-12-14 05:15:12 AM  

Honest Bender: If I were Google and some news site hassled me like this, I'd just delist their entire TLD(s) and send them a, "Well, bye." email. Enjoy your quick fade into obscurity.


This is how it SHOULD be handled, but I think they are trying to avoid having to do that with every organization that thinks they should be paid like this.

then they COULDNT do that.
 
2012-12-14 06:59:12 AM  
In other news, buggy whip manufacturers take the automotive industry to court over declining revenue.
 
2012-12-14 02:46:16 PM  

Annoyance: Totalfark is for people who have never heard of reddit.


Reddit is for those who enjoy referencing reddit on Fark.
 
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