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(Network World)   Breaking big wind: US targets $47 million for seven advanced offshore wind projects   (networkworld.com) divider line 24
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2012-12-13 12:41:37 PM  
So that's a lot of money to some people, I guess.
 
2012-12-13 12:55:41 PM  
Again?

/They just keep throwing money at it I guess?
 
2012-12-13 02:14:09 PM  
Lake Erie Development Corporation plans to install nine 3-megawatt direct-drive wind turbines on "ice breaker" monopile foundations designed to reduce ice loading. The project will be installed on Lake Erie, seven miles off the coast of Cleveland.

Ya, you better keep that shiat on your side of the lake America. Don't need to stare at some windmills while out sailing, thx
 
2012-12-13 02:44:38 PM  
Haha, some Wallstreet CEO is taking that much money home with him as a Christmas bonus.

It looks like the real goal of these is R&D though, so in that case it seems that they have thought through the amount needed to do what they want to accomplish and are comfortable spending just that. Which is good, rather than throwing a billion at it and hoping for the best like many government projects.
 
2012-12-13 02:45:28 PM  
"Off the coast of Cleveland" doesn't sound like it should be possible.
 
2012-12-13 02:46:37 PM  

gopher321: Don't need to stare at some windmills while out sailing, thx


Remind me why the whole world should be subsidizing your sailing experience?
 
2012-12-13 02:47:52 PM  
$47 million is that like two legs on an oil platform?

wind power should recieve more federal support, or other countries will take the lead on this and we will just end up buying their stuff.
 
2012-12-13 02:57:21 PM  

AlgaeRancher: $47 million is that like two legs on an oil platform?

wind power should recieve more federal support, or other countries will take the lead on this and we will just end up buying their stuff.


And it is actually just that the projects are eligible for up to $47 million total, spread over four years. I think all of these funding projects we should start expressing them in different units. Like F-35 equivalents, or "yearly tax breaks for X industry." People generally have zero perspective on how little, proportionally, their governments spend on R&D, new energy technology, etc.
 
2012-12-13 03:12:28 PM  

AlgaeRancher: $47 million is that like two legs on an oil platform?

wind power should recieve more federal support, or other countries will take the lead on this and we will just end up buying their stuff.


I think the problem is that wind has opponents. Both among conservatives who think its a scam, and liberals who want it everywhere except in their back yards.
The US has massive energy needs and politicians don't see renewables as a solution worth going in balls deep over. Not when its got the potential to bite them in said balls come next election.

If someone can build it and the public sees that it is good, the political support will come.

/We could use more wind energy in the USVI.
/Actually, we could use any renewable power infrastructure we could get our hands on.
/A 47 mil investment won't cover all our needs... but it sure wouldn't hurt.
/Just enough to say you've done something, not enough to imply you were wasteful.
 
2012-12-13 03:15:35 PM  

gopher321: Ya, you better keep that shiat on your side of the lake America. Don't need to stare at some windmills while out sailing, thx


Yeah, because they're just so ugly.
 
2012-12-13 03:17:15 PM  
But that could have funded 0.0013 seconds of the war in Afghanistan!
 
2012-12-13 03:24:03 PM  

gopher321: Ya, you better keep that shiat on your side of the lake America. Don't need to stare at some windmills while out sailing, thx


Please tell me this is a troll.

People who think that wind turbines cause health problems are misinformed assholes but people who oppose them because they are 'unsightly' are just plain assholes.
 
2012-12-13 03:37:07 PM  
Why are they doing this? Don't they know they are rejecting God's gifts/treasures that he buried for us in the soil? It's like they are just rejecting all that holds this great nation together. It makes me want to burn my passport and move to a heavily fortified compound of real Americans.
 
2012-12-13 03:37:50 PM  

AlgaeRancher: $47 million is that like two legs on an oil platform?

wind power should recieve more federal support, or other countries will take the lead on this and we will just end up buying their stuff.


Or what? They'll steal our wind?
 
2012-12-13 03:43:56 PM  
So we still have the jobs to be sacrificed for the counterfeiting of that much money?

If it was such a good idea wouldn't the people that have money be using some to get in on the action?
 
2012-12-13 03:59:21 PM  

MrEricSir: But that could have funded 0.0013 seconds of the war in Afghanistan!


Actually about four months worth. But not a thing blown up or person killed. What a waste of money, eh?
 
2012-12-13 04:04:40 PM  
How much wind could a windbreaker break,
If a windbreaker could break wind?
 
2012-12-13 04:24:03 PM  

AlgaeRancher: $47 million is that like two legs on an oil platform?


"Today, the BP alternative energy division encompasses solar energy, biofuels, carbon capture and storage research and development, as well as wind power. It invests $800 million a year, representing 4% of the company's total annual investment."

$47M over 4 years is $11.75M pa. $11.75M is 1.5% if BP's investment in alternative energy or 0.06% of it's total annual investment in energy. And that's just one company.
 
2012-12-13 04:27:37 PM  

Egoy3k: gopher321: Ya, you better keep that shiat on your side of the lake America. Don't need to stare at some windmills while out sailing, thx

Please tell me this is a troll.

People who think that wind turbines cause health problems are misinformed assholes but people who oppose them because they are 'unsightly' are just plain assholes.


What really gets me are the people that want more oil drilling over wind and one of their reasons for it is that wind turbines are eyesores. I guess they thing that oil derricks are more appealing.
 
2012-12-13 04:46:13 PM  
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/disapproves
 
2012-12-13 05:18:26 PM  
Approves! nsfw.

/here's a windmill for ya' mods!
 
2012-12-13 05:26:51 PM  
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2012-12-13 04:24:03 PM


AlgaeRancher: $47 million is that like two legs on an oil platform?

"Today, the BP alternative energy division encompasses solar energy, biofuels, carbon capture and storage research and development, as well as wind power. It invests $800 million a year, representing 4% of the company's total annual investment."

$47M over 4 years is $11.75M pa. $11.75M is 1.5% if BP's investment in alternative energy or 0.06% of it's total annual investment in energy. And that's just one company


A foreign company, and you can beleive other countries like China are investing big in alternative energy
 
2012-12-13 07:06:08 PM  
U.S. Army Band: $198 million per year.

Maybe we should invest in woodwind energy.
 
2012-12-14 01:34:33 PM  
OMG OUT OF CONTROL SPENDING!!!1!
 
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