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(Slate)   America's best beer comes from tiny garages and nano-breweries that most people have never heard of. I mean, I have -- not you. Oh, you've tried Doug's pilsner? Yeah, I had some of his stuff last week, not bad. I'm more into Frank's IPA now, though   (slate.com) divider line 135
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2012-12-13 10:49:03 AM
Didnt we do the whole beer snob thing yesterday, subby?


Once or twice a month is plenty - this just cuts into drinking time...
 
2012-12-13 10:49:05 AM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-13 10:49:53 AM
Oh good, another beer snob thread.

www.the60sofficialsite.com
 
2012-12-13 10:49:59 AM
I used to drink crap. I am so glad i do not anymore.
 
2012-12-13 10:50:28 AM
EKU Dark and EKU 28, if you ever had either of them, you'd never drink American piss water again.
 
2012-12-13 10:50:34 AM

blatz514: Oh good, another beer snob thread.


That can says bottled beer.

FAIL!
 
2012-12-13 10:52:29 AM
Thanks for reminding me my seasonal batch of Maple Syrup Stout over carbonated this year and destroyed half the bottles.

/Homebrewing and taking care of your young child should not happen simultaneously.
 
2012-12-13 10:52:41 AM
Bringing a case of Westies ('vleteren 12) back to the states for Christmas gifts, so I'm gettin' a kick.
 
2012-12-13 10:53:15 AM

maniacbastard: blatz514: Oh good, another beer snob thread.

That can says bottled beer.

FAIL!


Heh, that always cracked me up.
 
2012-12-13 10:53:18 AM
San Diego is now officially the beer capital of the world, but you've probably never heard of it.
 
2012-12-13 10:53:52 AM
You aint no punk you punk
You wanna talk about the real junk?

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-13 10:54:15 AM
beeradvocate.com

So ... freakin... tasty
 
2012-12-13 10:54:51 AM

tricycleracer: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x379]


Thanks for reminding me of that cliffhanger...good god this show is going to take forever to be back on
 
2012-12-13 10:55:10 AM
i've got a serious question for you americans: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?

Is it a regional thing (i spend most of my time in the north east) ?

Most local beers here tend to be a lot smoother (think Creemore's Ale or the delicious Kellerbier, etc).

what am I missing here. I dont want my mouth to pucker when i drink a beer.
 
2012-12-13 10:55:36 AM
Someday, I am going to dive in and start making my own beer...but only when I have the room and the time.

In the meantime, the little amount of drinking I have time for anymore is more than adequately accommodated by a trip to the liqueur sto.
 
2012-12-13 10:56:47 AM

blatz514: maniacbastard: blatz514: Oh good, another beer snob thread.

That can says bottled beer.

FAIL!

Heh, that always cracked me up.


You can make the cheap beer taste like the $7 a bottle stuff by adding some razzamataz to it. Well, you can make it taste like a fancy belgian raspberry beer anyway.
 
2012-12-13 10:56:47 AM

JustFarkingGreat: [beeradvocate.com image 200x150]

So ... freakin... tasty


Yup. Just discovered them recently after moving to the area, and I only wish the availability was better. Lawson's and Hill Farmstead are making me really enjoy my new home.
 
2012-12-13 10:57:19 AM

Lemmy Kilmister: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?


It's just a fad. There are other beers available. Just stop drinking what the bartender is pushing and explore the tap rack.
 
2012-12-13 10:57:27 AM
Response when people posting about their favorite local restaurants: "That sounds nice, my favorite is..."

Response when people posting about their favorite local beer: "Why do you post about beer no one has ever heard of before. You think that makes you cool?"
 
2012-12-13 10:57:50 AM

Lemmy Kilmister: i've got a serious question for you americans: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?

Is it a regional thing (i spend most of my time in the north east) ?

Most local beers here tend to be a lot smoother (think Creemore's Ale or the delicious Kellerbier, etc).

what am I missing here. I dont want my mouth to pucker when i drink a beer.


Because we've hit an IPA trend, basically. Used to, almost every craft beer was a smooth, brown ale or an irish red or something along those lines. These last couple of years, everyone's gone IPA crazy. So brewers think they need to throw tons of hops into every batch.

Which I don't mind. I dig a good IPA but yeah, we could use some more of the other styles too.
 
2012-12-13 10:58:02 AM
I love me some obscure craft beers and I do spend quite a bit of cash to drink them, but I'll still drink the swill/bottom shelf if it's all that's available.

I'm a drunk first and a beer/liquor snob second.
 
2012-12-13 10:58:42 AM

Lemmy Kilmister: i've got a serious question for you americans: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?

Is it a regional thing (i spend most of my time in the north east) ?

Most local beers here tend to be a lot smoother (think Creemore's Ale or the delicious Kellerbier, etc).

what am I missing here. I dont want my mouth to pucker when i drink a beer.


It's a cultural insecurity thing. American's have to be "the most extreme" at whatever they do. They're a good country; I'm not sure what they're overcompensating for.
 
2012-12-13 10:59:23 AM

H31N0US: Lemmy Kilmister: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?

It's just a fad. There are other beers available. Just stop drinking what the bartender is pushing and explore the tap rack.


i have, well i;ve tried. and in my experience i've found very few US beers that arent hopped out to the max. Sadly, i seem to be fall back on Yuengling most of the time
 
2012-12-13 11:00:02 AM

Lemmy Kilmister: i've got a serious question for you americans: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?

Is it a regional thing (i spend most of my time in the north east) ?

Most local beers here tend to be a lot smoother (think Creemore's Ale or the delicious Kellerbier, etc).

what am I missing here. I dont want my mouth to pucker when i drink a beer.


North east is all about Hops.
Colorado is all about "special-b" (I farking hate special-b).
Minnesota beer is a north east/German hybrid.
 
2012-12-13 11:00:57 AM
hiddenleaves.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-13 11:01:44 AM

Lemmy Kilmister: i've got a serious question for you americans: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?

Is it a regional thing (i spend most of my time in the north east) ?

Most local beers here tend to be a lot smoother (think Creemore's Ale or the delicious Kellerbier, etc).

what am I missing here. I dont want my mouth to pucker when i drink a beer.


It's partially regional, and partly because those are generally really popular now. There are plenty of non-hoppy delicious beers available too, but you may have to go to the source to find them. Allagash and Ommegang are making fantastic Belgian style beers, and saisons seem to be making a major comeback lately. I love the IPAs with lots of hop flavor and moderate bitterness, but I agree that good milder beers (browns, kolschs, milds, ESBs, etc) seem to be a bit harder to find.
 
2012-12-13 11:01:50 AM

Lemmy Kilmister: i've got a serious question for you americans: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?

Is it a regional thing (i spend most of my time in the north east) ?

Most local beers here tend to be a lot smoother (think Creemore's Ale or the delicious Kellerbier, etc).

what am I missing here. I dont want my mouth to pucker when i drink a beer.


You're not missing anything.

There are plenty of low hop flavored beers here in the states. Although ipas and dipas are plentiful, almost all other styles are well represented.

I guess what I'm getting at is that you're not trying hard enough.
 
2012-12-13 11:01:52 AM

My nano-brewery:

i865.photobucket.com


i865.photobucket.com

Oh hai!
i865.photobucket.com


Final product is portable:
i865.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-13 11:02:43 AM

WhippingBoy: Lemmy Kilmister: i've got a serious question for you americans: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?

Is it a regional thing (i spend most of my time in the north east) ?

Most local beers here tend to be a lot smoother (think Creemore's Ale or the delicious Kellerbier, etc).

what am I missing here. I dont want my mouth to pucker when i drink a beer.

It's a cultural insecurity thing. American's have to be "the most extreme" at whatever they do. They're a good country; I'm not sure what they're overcompensating for.


Coors Light.
 
2012-12-13 11:03:12 AM
Right now I have a cream stout that's really, really great and a coffee porter that's so hilariously overcarbonated it's tough to open a bottle without making a mess, let alone pour correctly. At least the caps haven't blown off the bottles in my closet. Need to move on from bottle conditioning but I don't have the space to store more equipment. Oh well. Someday.
 
2012-12-13 11:03:52 AM
I don't like overly hoppy beers, but when I do, I like www.newbelgium.com

Good hop flavor without a lot of the bitter.
 
2012-12-13 11:04:31 AM

Lemmy Kilmister: H31N0US: Lemmy Kilmister: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?

It's just a fad. There are other beers available. Just stop drinking what the bartender is pushing and explore the tap rack.

i have, well i;ve tried. and in my experience i've found very few US beers that arent hopped out to the max. Sadly, i seem to be fall back on Yuengling most of the time


Some brewers like to throw too much hops in every beer they make. You just have to try lots of different ones. I don't really like it when a brewery over-hops every beer they make. Sometimes it works and you have a psuedo new style emerge (Belgian IPA, black IPA) etc. I didn't like New Belgium's Hoptoberfest for this reason. I like several of their beers, but an Octoberfest should be malt forward.
 
2012-12-13 11:04:33 AM

H31N0US: Lemmy Kilmister: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?

It's just a fad
. There are other beers available. Just stop drinking what the bartender is pushing and explore the tap rack.


theinterrobang.com
 
2012-12-13 11:04:46 AM

Maud Dib: My nano-brewery:

[i865.photobucket.com image 850x637]

[i865.photobucket.com image 850x637]

Oh hai!
[i865.photobucket.com image 850x637]

Final product is portable:
[i865.photobucket.com image 850x637]


You call that Nano? When I make homebrew I do 2 gallons at a time. Right now I am drinking an awesome California Common I made last month, and I have got a milk stout in bottles that will be available next week.
 
2012-12-13 11:06:24 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-13 11:06:54 AM

WhippingBoy:

It's a cultural insecurity thing. American's have to be "the most extreme" at whatever they do. They're a good country; I'm not sure what they're overcompensating for.


Oh, jeez, STFU. You damn Canucks are so farking insecure, you project it into your national psyche.


I'd say the massive IPA's are a backlash to the weak swill we were used to being served before the Craft Beer revolution began. We're currently enjoying Revolution v2.0.
 
2012-12-13 11:07:45 AM

Erix: Lemmy Kilmister: i've got a serious question for you americans: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?

Is it a regional thing (i spend most of my time in the north east) ?

Most local beers here tend to be a lot smoother (think Creemore's Ale or the delicious Kellerbier, etc).

what am I missing here. I dont want my mouth to pucker when i drink a beer.

It's partially regional, and partly because those are generally really popular now. There are plenty of non-hoppy delicious beers available too, but you may have to go to the source to find them. Allagash and Ommegang are making fantastic Belgian style beers, and saisons seem to be making a major comeback lately. I love the IPAs with lots of hop flavor and moderate bitterness, but I agree that good milder beers (browns, kolschs, milds, ESBs, etc) seem to be a bit harder to find.


I think it is less a hop thing, and more a need to be considered 'extreme' to stand out. I mean the other popular style seems to be Russian Imperial Stouts. As far as IPA's go I find it is all the type of hops you add and when. For example I find Stone Ruination to be way more drinkable than the standard Stone IPA.
 
2012-12-13 11:07:48 AM

mechgreg: Maud Dib: My nano-brewery:

[i865.photobucket.com image 850x637]

[i865.photobucket.com image 850x637]

Oh hai!
[i865.photobucket.com image 850x637]

Final product is portable:
[i865.photobucket.com image 850x637]

You call that Nano? When I make homebrew I do 2 gallons at a time. Right now I am drinking an awesome California Common I made last month, and I have got a milk stout in bottles that will be available next week.


You call that Nano? I do 1 mouth-full at a time. I swallow a mouthful of wort and hops, add some yeast, and let it ferment in my mouth. Keeping my mouth shut for two weeks to let it carbonate properly is a bit of a pain, but the end results are totally worth it.
 
2012-12-13 11:10:09 AM
9/10 times, Nano brewing should be interpreted as nonprofit brewing.

More power to them.

My nano brewery has one customer. Me.
 
2012-12-13 11:12:04 AM

Maud Dib: Oh, jeez, STFU. You damn Canucks are so farking insecure, you project it into your national psyche.


I'm sorry.
 
2012-12-13 11:12:33 AM

Lemmy Kilmister: H31N0US: Lemmy Kilmister: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?

It's just a fad. There are other beers available. Just stop drinking what the bartender is pushing and explore the tap rack.

i have, well i;ve tried. and in my experience i've found very few US beers that arent hopped out to the max. Sadly, i seem to be fall back on Yuengling most of the time


Hmm. Don't know what to tell you. If you are in NY go to McSorley's then. Your choices will be limited to "light" or "dark" but it's decent grog.
 
2012-12-13 11:13:27 AM

maniacbastard: I used to drink crap. I am so glad i do not anymore.


So you stopped drinking beer altogether then?
 
2012-12-13 11:14:49 AM
TFA seems to say even the government is addressing nanobreweries, but that the process is so terribly complex, why would anyone even be remotely interested in setting one up? I'm a homebrewer, I make beer as a hobby. It's a real biatch of a hobby that people love to drink my beer, but are assholes and won't give me bottles. I have two batches waiting to be bottled, but the dicks that I give free beer too, won't drink it and return bottles or provide me with new ones. I'd love to charge them a buck so that I could go out and buy bottles and not always be spending money on bottles, instead of buying ingredients.

If the government was so interested and involved, they would make the process stupid simple. I'd pay $100 to be allowed to sell my beer for a fixed price, with a government issued stamp that regulated how many bottles I sell in a year and the amount I charged. But the government doesn't seem that interested in promoting that.
 
2012-12-13 11:14:50 AM
There's Bud Light Lime A.K.A. Bud Light with a shoot of Gay and everything else.
 
2012-12-13 11:17:22 AM
this Xmas season I didn't have time to brew up a keg of my annual Snowman Dick .... and its a little disappointing.
 
2012-12-13 11:17:45 AM

WhippingBoy: You call that Nano? When I make homebrew I do 2 gallons at a time. Right now I am drinking an awesome California Common I made last month, and I have got a milk stout in bottles that will be available next week.

You call that Nano? I do 1 mouth-full at a time. I swallow a mouthful of wort and hops, add some yeast, and let it ferment in my mouth. Keeping my mouth shut for two weeks to let it carbonate properly is a bit of a pain, but the end results are totally worth it.


You call that Nano? I ... hmm. shiat, that's pretty nano.
 
2012-12-13 11:18:20 AM

mechgreg: I think it is less a hop thing, and more a need to be considered 'extreme' to stand out. I mean the other popular style seems to be Russian Imperial Stouts. As far as IPA's go I find it is all the type of hops you add and when. For example I find Stone Ruination to be way more drinkable than the standard Stone IPA.


I'll agree with that. I think when people finally move beyond watery mainstream beers and realize that beer can have flavor, they start looking towards the boundaries. Imperial IPAs, Russian Imperial Stouts, Sours/Wild beers, etc. I went through that before I rediscovered well crafted lagers, bitters, and milds. While I unfortunately left the best ones behind in PA, there's at least a great IPA/PA/saison thing going on in VT.
 
2012-12-13 11:18:56 AM

WhippingBoy: Lemmy Kilmister: i've got a serious question for you americans: Why is it that all I seem to find when im down there are super hoppy, super bitter, basically undrinkable beers?

Is it a regional thing (i spend most of my time in the north east) ?

Most local beers here tend to be a lot smoother (think Creemore's Ale or the delicious Kellerbier, etc).

what am I missing here. I dont want my mouth to pucker when i drink a beer.

It's a cultural insecurity thing. American's have to be "the most extreme" at whatever they do. They're a good country; I'm not sure what they're overcompensating for.


On behalf of America, I'm sorry - or to put it in your lexicon, "I'm soary."
 
2012-12-13 11:19:36 AM

WhippingBoy: Maud Dib: Oh, jeez, STFU. You damn Canucks are so farking insecure, you project it into your national psyche.

I'm sorry.


FAVORITED.
 
2012-12-13 11:20:27 AM

WhippingBoy: Maud Dib: Oh, jeez, STFU. You damn Canucks are so farking insecure, you project it into your national psyche.

I'm sorry.


No worries...Here, have a beer.
A nice Maud Dib '09, a fine porter.
Look at that foam retention...LOOK AT IT!!!!!

i865.photobucket.com
 
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