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(Talking Points Memo)   Energy Department puts $27M into new offshore wind projects. Fox News to report that it'll cost $27T and sacrifice children for the liberal Wind God. TURBINES FOR THE WIND GOD   (idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 120
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2012-12-13 08:28:32 AM
How dare they invest in non fossil fuels! How dare they invest in technology for the common good! Socialist! Muslim! Usurper! Black President!
 
2012-12-13 08:31:12 AM
See, the libtards are all about "offshoring" no real American would do such a treacherous act to endanger our energy security.

/why does china need our windmills anyhow? they can build and buy their own damn turbines
 
2012-12-13 08:37:24 AM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-13 09:17:34 AM
analogmedium.com

WINDMILL PEOPLE! I hate those guys...

/ Bring me another sacrifice! I'm still hungry!
 
2012-12-13 09:39:51 AM
But I thought God's feelings would be hurt if we didn't use the wind He so thoughtfully provides to us. 

Guess that only counts for oil. My bad.
 
2012-12-13 09:55:25 AM
Principle Power in Seattle, Washington: Five semi-submersible floating foundations with six-megawatt wind turbines. Planned installation in deep water 10 to 15 miles off Coos Bay, Oregon.

Wow. Oregon prides itself in the fact that there are no piers or structures on its seaward beaches. I bet the opposition to this will be fierce.
 
2012-12-13 10:31:44 AM

SnarfVader: Principle Power in Seattle, Washington: Five semi-submersible floating foundations with six-megawatt wind turbines. Planned installation in deep water 10 to 15 miles off Coos Bay, Oregon.

Wow. Oregon prides itself in the fact that there are no piers or structures on its seaward beaches. I bet the opposition to this will be fierce.


Well, they will just have to balance the "We like a pretty sea-view" with "We like emmisions-free environmentally sound power generation" and see which comes out on top.
 
2012-12-13 11:07:42 AM

give me doughnuts: SnarfVader: Principle Power in Seattle, Washington: Five semi-submersible floating foundations with six-megawatt wind turbines. Planned installation in deep water 10 to 15 miles off Coos Bay, Oregon.

Wow. Oregon prides itself in the fact that there are no piers or structures on its seaward beaches. I bet the opposition to this will be fierce.

Well, they will just have to balance the "We like a pretty sea-view" with "We like emmisions-free environmentally sound power generation" and see which comes out on top.


And then there are animal rights activists who don't like wind farms because they tend to kill a whole lot of birds. Anyway, lots of people have problems with these for lots of reasons. Ted Kennedy once opposed one that would have put some turbines offshore near his beach house. I don't have any opposition to it, but I do kind of worry about the effect on wildlife.
 
2012-12-13 11:20:50 AM
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

the wind works like waves - they only really happen when they get close to shore because the higher ground elevation creates higher pressure

that's why it's so windy in chicago - they have all those skyscrapers right on the water

this is like putting a hydro plant in the desert

thanks nobama
 
2012-12-13 11:21:46 AM
Won't someone think about the poor frackers?
 
2012-12-13 11:22:33 AM
Funny how those liberals down in Texas seem to be big fans of wind power.
 
2012-12-13 11:23:08 AM

Nabb1: And then there are animal rights activists who don't like wind farms because they tend to kill a whole lot of birds.


No they don't.
 
2012-12-13 11:23:26 AM

SnarfVader: Principle Power in Seattle, Washington: Five semi-submersible floating foundations with six-megawatt wind turbines. Planned installation in deep water 10 to 15 miles off Coos Bay, Oregon.

Wow. Oregon prides itself in the fact that there are no piers or structures on its seaward beaches. I bet the opposition to this will be fierce.


Rhea's going to be pissed.
 
2012-12-13 11:23:50 AM
Obama rewarding states that voted for him. Look at how many red states aren't even being considered for off shore wind farms
 
2012-12-13 11:23:53 AM
Sure it all sounds great until there's some mishap and a bunch of wind is spilled into the ocean.
 
2012-12-13 11:24:21 AM

sprawl15: the wind works like waves - they only really happen when they get close to shore because the higher ground elevation creates higher pressure


Uhhhhhh, no one knows what causes waves. Tide goes in, tide goes out. You can't explain that.
 
2012-12-13 11:24:42 AM

Nabb1: give me doughnuts: SnarfVader: Principle Power in Seattle, Washington: Five semi-submersible floating foundations with six-megawatt wind turbines. Planned installation in deep water 10 to 15 miles off Coos Bay, Oregon.

Wow. Oregon prides itself in the fact that there are no piers or structures on its seaward beaches. I bet the opposition to this will be fierce.

Well, they will just have to balance the "We like a pretty sea-view" with "We like emmisions-free environmentally sound power generation" and see which comes out on top.

And then there are animal rights activists who don't like wind farms because they tend to kill a whole lot of birds. Anyway, lots of people have problems with these for lots of reasons. Ted Kennedy once opposed one that would have put some turbines offshore near his beach house. I don't have any opposition to it, but I do kind of worry about the effect on wildlife.


Unless they're at a frequency that bothers whales or something, I'm not. The oceans a big place, and a few extra rocks won't hurt much.

Can we make an artifical reef and put the windmills on them? That way not only do they generate power, but they'll tend to lessen the damage of hurricanes.
 
2012-12-13 11:26:12 AM
We are the children who grew too fast
We are the dust of a future past
We raise our voices in the night
Crying to heaven
And will our voices be heard
Or will they Break Like The Wind
 
2012-12-13 11:26:52 AM

sprawl15: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

the wind works like waves - they only really happen when they get close to shore because the higher ground elevation creates higher pressure

that's why it's so windy in chicago - they have all those skyscrapers right on the water

this is like putting a hydro plant in the desert

thanks nobama


You're really on a roll today.
 
2012-12-13 11:28:32 AM
OMG TED KENNEDY
 
2012-12-13 11:28:33 AM

DarwiOdrade: sprawl15: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

the wind works like waves - they only really happen when they get close to shore because the higher ground elevation creates higher pressure

that's why it's so windy in chicago - they have all those skyscrapers right on the water

this is like putting a hydro plant in the desert

thanks nobama

You're really on a roll today.


Wind offshore? Yeah right.

travelandtell.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-13 11:29:01 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Nabb1: And then there are animal rights activists who don't like wind farms because they tend to kill a whole lot of birds.

No they don't.


There was one out west somewhere where it was a big problem a few years ago, IIRC. They were trying to figure out how to handle the problem. I don't recall much else, too lazy to go look it up.
 
2012-12-13 11:29:14 AM
Turbines for the Wind God! Panels for the Solar Throne!

/Khorne worshipping hippies are strange
 
2012-12-13 11:30:59 AM

sprawl15: the wind works like waves - they only really happen when they get close to shore because the higher ground elevation creates higher pressure

that's why it's so windy in chicago - they have all those skyscrapers right on the water


You do realize that Chicago isn't more windy than any other average city, and the origin of the term "windy city" has nothing to do with wind, right?
 
2012-12-13 11:31:53 AM
So can we have Tidal dams as well?
 
2012-12-13 11:32:29 AM
How long until we reach Peak Wind?
 
2012-12-13 11:33:06 AM

Arkanaut: How long until we reach Peak Wind?


As soon as I finish off this bowl of red beans...
 
2012-12-13 11:35:01 AM

CPennypacker: DarwiOdrade: sprawl15: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

the wind works like waves - they only really happen when they get close to shore because the higher ground elevation creates higher pressure

that's why it's so windy in chicago - they have all those skyscrapers right on the water

this is like putting a hydro plant in the desert

thanks nobama

You're really on a roll today.

Wind offshore? Yeah right.

[travelandtell.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]


pmm.nasa.gov
 
2012-12-13 11:35:33 AM

lennavan: no one knows what causes waves. Tide goes in, tide goes out. You can't explain that.


heard the germans were working on a generator powered by ocean currents.
media.thethousands.com.au
 
2012-12-13 11:35:48 AM

Cletus C.: Sure it all sounds great until there's some mishap and a bunch of wind is spilled into the ocean.


hahaha well played
 
2012-12-13 11:36:13 AM

sprawl15: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

the wind works like waves - they only really happen when they get close to shore because the higher ground elevation creates higher pressure


no wind on the ocean? then how the fark did Columbus get to India(ns)?
 
2012-12-13 11:38:07 AM

Arkanaut: How long until we reach Peak Wind?


Put a turbine tower in front of the Republican side of Congress and reap the trollwind.
 
2012-12-13 11:39:52 AM

Nabb1: Dusk-You-n-Me: Nabb1: And then there are animal rights activists who don't like wind farms because they tend to kill a whole lot of birds.

No they don't.

There was one out west somewhere where it was a big problem a few years ago, IIRC. They were trying to figure out how to handle the problem. I don't recall much else, too lazy to go look it up.


Wind generation used to be a bigger problem for migratory birds in part because their open frames encouraged nesting, but the turbines would pick off the birds. Nowadays, with solid-form construction, it's not as big an issue. Not saying they don't whack birds, just that it's far less prevalent.
 
2012-12-13 11:40:28 AM
At least all those windmills will keep them cool.
 
2012-12-13 11:42:00 AM

give me doughnuts: SnarfVader: Principle Power in Seattle, Washington: Five semi-submersible floating foundations with six-megawatt wind turbines. Planned installation in deep water 10 to 15 miles off Coos Bay, Oregon.

Wow. Oregon prides itself in the fact that there are no piers or structures on its seaward beaches. I bet the opposition to this will be fierce.

Well, they will just have to balance the "We like a pretty sea-view" with "We like emmisions-free environmentally sound power generation" and see which comes out on top.


Structures 10-15 miles offshore have surprisingly little impact on the ocean view.

Dusk-You-n-Me: Nabb1: And then there are animal rights activists who don't like wind farms because they tend to kill a whole lot of birds.

No they don't.


Yes they do. My wife's department at the Woodland Park Zoo has helped fund some of the research. The real problem isn't the birds, though - it's the bats. Windfarms in Eastern Washington are decimating bat populations locally, resulting in skyrocketing populations of flying insects. They're working on making design changes to ameliorate the problem, though, with some success so far - and I'm not sure how much bat activity there is 10-15 miles offshore, so we're probably good.
 
2012-12-13 11:43:41 AM
Fox is just factoring in the cost of Fartbongo's trips to the sites.
 
2012-12-13 11:44:29 AM

Skail: Nabb1: Dusk-You-n-Me: Nabb1: And then there are animal rights activists who don't like wind farms because they tend to kill a whole lot of birds.

No they don't.

There was one out west somewhere where it was a big problem a few years ago, IIRC. They were trying to figure out how to handle the problem. I don't recall much else, too lazy to go look it up.

Wind generation used to be a bigger problem for migratory birds in part because their open frames encouraged nesting, but the turbines would pick off the birds. Nowadays, with solid-form construction, it's not as big an issue. Not saying they don't whack birds, just that it's far less prevalent.


Also turbine diameters are getting much larger and with that blade speed is reduced causing less problems for birds.
 
2012-12-13 11:45:36 AM

sgnilward: See, the libtards are all about "offshoring" no real American would do such a treacherous act to endanger our energy security.

/why does china need our windmills anyhow? they can build and buy their own damn turbines


China buys very few of its turbines from America. They make most of them themselves and export a great deal. The quality is terrible. Really bad. You see how they do things in a factory and it just makes you want to scream. And they're not even smart about the penny pinching. You tell them the transfer case gears have to be made out of Alloy X. It was designed with Alloy X for a purpose, to meet specifications that the plant managers simply don't have the background understand. Then the PM runs off, thinking he knows better, and builds it with cheaper Alloy Z thinking he'll save 20% on gear box materials. And they'll tell you with such pride that they're helping to save money. Surprise! You've now made gears that'll double the maintenance costs after the first 2 years.....

As a whole, they'd rather make awful quality turbines and sell them at a loss for 5-10 years just so that they can shut out other emerging markets.
 
2012-12-13 11:45:50 AM
I'm pretty sure Michigan is trying to ban any offshore wind farms, probably funded by the same assholes that hijacked the "Save Our Shores" name when they were trying to keep the ability to put up sea walls, dump sand over fish spawning grounds, and generally destroy the shoreline's natural state.
 
2012-12-13 11:46:30 AM

Skail: Wind generation used to be a bigger problem for migratory birds in part because their open frames encouraged nesting, but the turbines would pick off the birds. Nowadays, with solid-form construction, it's not as big an issue. Not saying they don't whack birds, just that it's far less prevalent.


link please? curious and cant find nothing ... slow morning ....
 
2012-12-13 11:47:19 AM

SnarfVader: Principle Power in Seattle, Washington: Five semi-submersible floating foundations with six-megawatt wind turbines. Planned installation in deep water 10 to 15 miles off Coos Bay, Oregon.

Wow. Oregon prides itself in the fact that there are no piers or structures on its seaward beaches. I bet the opposition to this will be fierce.


You're talking about a part of Oregon that is so desperate for jobs they are one of the only port communities in favor of shipping coal out of their port.
 
2012-12-13 11:50:08 AM

Cheron: Obama rewarding states that voted for him. Look at how many red states aren't even being considered for off shore wind farms


Oh it's worse than that. Obama's trying to expand power plants that depend on RADIATION for those states that opposed him.
He says that in those states, he wants to expand utilization of the biggest nuclear reactor the world has ever seen, the only nuclear reactor that has been positively linked to hundreds of cancer cases over the last thirty years, has no government oversight of its operation, no emergency stop mechanism, and no plan for disposing of its spent fuel.

/The reactor is the fusion reactor called the sun.
 
2012-12-13 11:52:30 AM

KingsleyZisou: Turbines for the Wind God! Panels for the Solar Throne!

/Khorne worshipping hippies are strange


ah ha! I was trying to figure out something for the second half of that chant. Thank you sir, I'll keep that noted
 
2012-12-13 11:52:48 AM

namatad: Skail: Wind generation used to be a bigger problem for migratory birds in part because their open frames encouraged nesting, but the turbines would pick off the birds. Nowadays, with solid-form construction, it's not as big an issue. Not saying they don't whack birds, just that it's far less prevalent.

link please? curious and cant find nothing ... slow morning ....


I'm not saying wind turbines shouldn't be as safe as possible for birds, bats, and other wildlife, but according to a recent study, wind energy is very low on the list of causes of avian death in the US.
ars.els-cdn.com
 
2012-12-13 11:53:34 AM
Where is your Gog Now?
t3.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-13 11:54:44 AM

Stile4aly: At least all those windmills will keep them cool.


Too easy, man.
 
2012-12-13 11:57:37 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: sprawl15: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

the wind works like waves - they only really happen when they get close to shore because the higher ground elevation creates higher pressure


no wind on the ocean? then how the fark did Columbus get to India(ns)?


Well first he bought a bunch of African slaves to row his boats across the Pacific, but when they all died he captured Pocahontas and the savage Washington Red Skins to row his boats back. How else do you think football came to England?
 
2012-12-13 11:57:56 AM

not5am: lennavan: no one knows what causes waves. Tide goes in, tide goes out. You can't explain that.

heard the germans were working on a generator powered by ocean currents.
[media.thethousands.com.au image 578x480]


Meh, wave generators aren't all they are cracked up to be.
80 ton wave generator works briefly as advertised when it falls into ocean
 
2012-12-13 11:58:52 AM

Cheron: Obama rewarding states that voted for him. Look at how many red states aren't even being considered for off shore wind farms


www.billymeade.com

Didn't see the whole coastline of Texas there, didja?
 
2012-12-13 11:58:56 AM

TheGogmagog: Where is your Gog Now?
[t3.gstatic.com image 269x187]


Now there is a movie that needs a remake, maybe with more rape rape, but no legitimate rape.
 
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