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(Short List)   Images of new Blackberry leaked. Subby's lawyer advises him to acknowledge that any similarity to the iPhone is entirely coincidental   (shortlist.com) divider line 50
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2012-12-13 05:48:56 AM
It's a rectangle with rounded corners.

Infringing!
 
2012-12-13 08:25:12 AM
Looks more like a droid razr than an iphone.
 
2012-12-13 09:56:50 AM

pecosdave: It's a rectangle with rounded corners.

Infringing!

Absolutely brilliant. The most innovative design ever. Jesus himself will marvel at the beauty of this device. Truly, this is the pinnacle of cell phone design. I feel so blessed to have been able to view those images. My life is now complete.

Thank you RIM! Thank you so much!

/weeping as I am typing this...
 
2012-12-13 10:23:42 AM
Every smart phone = iphone ripoff!
 
2012-12-13 10:26:31 AM
Well, it is a rounded rectangle, and it does have a grid of icons. So I guess that's all it takes to make it an iPhone knockoff, if Samsung is any indication.
 
2012-12-13 10:31:52 AM
There should be a pic showing how every phone is an iPhone ripoff in the same vein of that pic of how every gun is an AK-47
 
2012-12-13 10:31:53 AM
Did they get rid of the keyboard?

Farking idiots. That was the Blackberry's biggest selling point!
 
2012-12-13 10:32:19 AM

abhorrent1: Every smart phone = iphone ripoff!


no i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-13 10:33:15 AM

NickelP: Looks more like a droid razr than an iphone.


Came here to say that...looks more like my old Droid X
 
2012-12-13 10:33:41 AM

pecosdave: It's a rectangle the monolith with rounded corners.

Infringing!

 

FTFY

d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net
 
2012-12-13 10:36:25 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: abhorrent1: Every smart phone = iphone ripoff!

no [i.imgur.com image 730x486]


But it has a screen, and buttons and makes phone calls! ZOMG call the lawyers!
 
2012-12-13 10:39:40 AM

abhorrent1: drjekel_mrhyde: abhorrent1: Every smart phone = iphone ripoff!

no [i.imgur.com image 730x486]

But it has a screen, and buttons and makes phone calls! ZOMG call the lawyers!


You forgot the key factor ... rounded corners!
 
2012-12-13 10:46:00 AM

HeartBurnKid: Well, it is a rounded rectangle, and it does have a grid of icons. So I guess that's all it takes to make it an iPhone knockoff, if Samsung is any indication.


i see no issue with apple's lawsuit on the original iphone design. there are near unlimited combination of shapes and layouts other companies can use, lg chocolate touch for example.
 
2012-12-13 10:47:35 AM
cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com
iPhone: before and after

/oblig
 
2012-12-13 10:50:32 AM
...and just like anything Apple sells, it looks like a big pile of suck.
 
2012-12-13 10:54:19 AM

fatalvenom: NickelP: Looks more like a droid razr than an iphone.

Came here to say that...looks more like my old Droid X


This. As cliche as it is to say, the similarities in design between this and the Droid X are uncanny.
 
2012-12-13 10:54:23 AM
Good luck RIM. They essentially had the smartphone market in the bag by having the business space locked up, and then sat on their asses and did nothing for years while every other phone maker leapfrogged them. Even if this phone is amazing, they now have to compete for app developers against Apple, Google, and even Microsoft. And everything I've read indicates the phone will not be anything special, so they're just hoping to prevent even more customers from defecting to other devices. Just attempting to halt the flood of customers from leaving is not a plan that is going to end up saving them.
 
2012-12-13 10:55:08 AM

abhorrent1: Every smart phone = iphone ripoff!


And the iPhone was just a rip off my old Windows Mobile 6.1 phone or my HP iPaq PDA, with no stylus.

/although they mostly came in silver, not black
 
2012-12-13 10:58:07 AM

miscreant: Good luck RIM. They essentially had the smartphone market in the bag by having the business space locked up, and then sat on their asses and did nothing for years while every other phone maker leapfrogged them. Even if this phone is amazing, they now have to compete for app developers against Apple, Google, and even Microsoft. And everything I've read indicates the phone will not be anything special, so they're just hoping to prevent even more customers from defecting to other devices. Just attempting to halt the flood of customers from leaving is not a plan that is going to end up saving them.


They're giving all the backend stuff away for free (well free upgrades if you own the older BB backends). It's basically attempting to get the company to go "Ooooh free infrastructure" so they'll keep the BB as the corporate issue phone. Meanwhile the drones will continue to hate their phones or double fist them (personal Android or iOS device + company issue BB).

BB could have such a nice niche as being say the Android manufacturer who made really well secured and business friendly Android phones, but it looks like their future is the same as Motorola Mobility's at this point.
 
2012-12-13 10:59:17 AM

gingerjet: [cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com image 700x284]
iPhone: before and after

/oblig


Except you could relabel it as "Touchscreen: before and after" and it would be the same. Having a touchscreen necessitated a change in design because all you're looking to do at that point is maximize the screen space since you don't need a keypad anymore.

Also, the second picture purposefully excludes dumb phones which were still be designed, made, and sold after the release of the iPhone.
 
2012-12-13 11:00:58 AM

gingerjet: [cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com image 700x284]
iPhone: before and after

/oblig


img195.imageshack.us

FTFY.
 
2012-12-13 11:04:11 AM

gingerjet: [cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com image 700x284]
iPhone: before and after

/oblig


Because, as we all know, Apple invented the touchscreen.
 
2012-12-13 11:05:09 AM

ha-ha-guy: They're giving all the backend stuff away for free (well free upgrades if you own the older BB backends). It's basically attempting to get the company to go "Ooooh free infrastructure" so they'll keep the BB as the corporate issue phone. Meanwhile the drones will continue to hate their phones or double fist them (personal Android or iOS device + company issue BB).

BB could have such a nice niche as being say the Android manufacturer who made really well secured and business friendly Android phones, but it looks like their future is the same as Motorola Mobility's at this point.


That plan might give them a couple more years... but most IT people I know, who are often instrumental in making those decisions, want to be able to check their own office email on their iOS/Android device, so while it might hold back the tide a little bit, I doubt it's going to help much. As you said, they should have just switched to Android, set up their own App market where the approved apps have to pass more rigorous security checks, and written Android apps to interact with their back end.
 
2012-12-13 11:05:31 AM

Flint Ironstag: gingerjet: [cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com image 700x284]
iPhone: before and after

/oblig

[img195.imageshack.us image 635x463]

FTFY.


"Mockups" aren't real products, just like the flying cars from the Jetsons aren't real products either.
 
2012-12-13 11:15:20 AM

theurge14: Flint Ironstag: gingerjet: [cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com image 700x284]
iPhone: before and after

/oblig

[img195.imageshack.us image 635x463]

FTFY.

"Mockups" aren't real products, just like the flying cars from the Jetsons aren't real products either.


Mockups clearly prove that Samsung, and others, had come up with that form factor long before the iPhone was launched. It is proof Samsung did not "copy Apple".

Mockups are also very definitely considered prior art for patent applications as long as they have been made public.
 
2012-12-13 11:24:54 AM
Mockups are trade secrets, which are definitely not prior art. We've been down this road a million times on Fark.

The before and after iPhone graphic is correct. All the phone manufacturers waited until someone made touchscreen phones worked before they made their own, i.e. management didn't have the guts to green light the models until someone else in the market made it work. Apple showed it worked. The rest followed.
 
2012-12-13 11:34:00 AM

theurge14: Mockups are trade secrets, which are definitely not prior art. We've been down this road a million times on Fark.

The before and after iPhone graphic is correct. All the phone manufacturers waited until someone made touchscreen phones worked before they made their own, i.e. management didn't have the guts to green light the models until someone else in the market made it work. Apple showed it worked. The rest followed.


LG Prada? Announced six months before the iPhone?

And you accept that Samsung had come up with the modern smartphone form factor before the iPhone was launched?
 
2012-12-13 11:36:38 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: abhorrent1: Every smart phone = iphone ripoff!

no

[i.imgur.com image 730x486]


upload.wikimedia.org

Beauty eh?
 
2012-12-13 11:41:24 AM

miscreant: Good luck RIM. They essentially had the smartphone market in the bag by having the business space locked up, and then sat on their asses and did nothing for years while every other phone maker leapfrogged them. Even if this phone is amazing, they now have to compete for app developers against Apple, Google, and even Microsoft. And everything I've read indicates the phone will not be anything special, so they're just hoping to prevent even more customers from defecting to other devices. Just attempting to halt the flood of customers from leaving is not a plan that is going to end up saving them.


They didn't sit on their asses. Basillie-sack spent his time trying to get the Nashville Predators.
 
2012-12-13 11:44:05 AM

Flint Ironstag: LG Prada? Announced six months before the iPhone?

And you accept that Samsung had come up with the modern smartphone form factor before the iPhone was launched?


Doesn't matter if he does or not. The iPhone was derivative of the LG Prada. LG even threatened to sue over it, though they never actually went ahead. You could replace the iPhone: before and after in gingerjet's original graphic with the Prada and it would actually be more accurate. Though the graphic still ignores non-touchscreen phones in the second part of it regardless.
 
2012-12-13 11:47:30 AM

Shazam999: miscreant: Good luck RIM. They essentially had the smartphone market in the bag by having the business space locked up, and then sat on their asses and did nothing for years while every other phone maker leapfrogged them. Even if this phone is amazing, they now have to compete for app developers against Apple, Google, and even Microsoft. And everything I've read indicates the phone will not be anything special, so they're just hoping to prevent even more customers from defecting to other devices. Just attempting to halt the flood of customers from leaving is not a plan that is going to end up saving them.

They didn't sit on their asses. Basillie-sack spent his time trying to get the Nashville Predators.


They sat on their asses. The Twin Circus Clowns at the top didn't view the smart phone as any kind of threat to them, they did nothing, and after the horse was out of the barn, down the road, won the Preakness, and was ground up for glue, they decided to check the barn door.

Hubris killed RIM.
 
2012-12-13 11:47:49 AM

Shazam999: They didn't sit on their asses. Basillie-sack spent his time trying to get the Nashville Predators.


Oh, I'm sure there was lots of activity going on with hookers and blow too... just nothing to do with actually innovating or running the damn company.
 
2012-12-13 11:52:12 AM

Rent Party: Shazam999: miscreant: Good luck RIM. They essentially had the smartphone market in the bag by having the business space locked up, and then sat on their asses and did nothing for years while every other phone maker leapfrogged them. Even if this phone is amazing, they now have to compete for app developers against Apple, Google, and even Microsoft. And everything I've read indicates the phone will not be anything special, so they're just hoping to prevent even more customers from defecting to other devices. Just attempting to halt the flood of customers from leaving is not a plan that is going to end up saving them.

They didn't sit on their asses. Basillie-sack spent his time trying to get the Nashville Predators.

They sat on their asses. The Twin Circus Clowns at the top didn't view the smart phone as any kind of threat to them, they did nothing, and after the horse was out of the barn, down the road, won the Preakness, and was ground up for glue, they decided to check the barn door.

Hubris killed RIM.


Come on, purchasing the Nashville Predators would've been a huge coup for RIM, and for Jim's hairline.
 
2012-12-13 11:53:10 AM
A BlackBerry isn't a Blackberry if it doesn't have a keyboard.
 
2012-12-13 11:54:38 AM

miscreant: Flint Ironstag: LG Prada? Announced six months before the iPhone?

And you accept that Samsung had come up with the modern smartphone form factor before the iPhone was launched?

Doesn't matter if he does or not. The iPhone was derivative of the LG Prada. LG even threatened to sue over it, though they never actually went ahead. You could replace the iPhone: before and after in gingerjet's original graphic with the Prada and it would actually be more accurate. Though the graphic still ignores non-touchscreen phones in the second part of it regardless.


To suggest the iPhone is "derivative" of the Prada is to suggest that Apple only started the design process after seeing the Prada. Could Apple have designed the iPhone from scratch in six months? I doubt it.
The reality is the form factor was and is the obvious one. Once the technology existed for a touch screen, and with phones already having cameras, video cameras, video playback, internet access etc etc the large screen was the design every manufacturer was developing. The first mobile phones had a simple display with one line of digits. Every year since then displays got bigger and bigger. Displays virtually as big as the actual phone was always the obvious result.
 
2012-12-13 12:02:54 PM
Rent Party: Shazam999: miscreant: Good luck RIM. They essentially had the smartphone market in the bag by having the business space locked up, and then sat on their asses and did nothing for years while every other phone maker leapfrogged them. Even if this phone is amazing, they now have to compete for app developers against Apple, Google, and even Microsoft. And everything I've read indicates the phone will not be anything special, so they're just hoping to prevent even more customers from defecting to other devices. Just attempting to halt the flood of customers from leaving is not a plan that is going to end up saving them.

They didn't sit on their asses. Basillie-sack spent his time trying to get the Nashville Predators.

They sat on their asses. The Twin Circus Clowns at the top didn't view the smart phone as any kind of threat to them, they did nothing, and after the horse was out of the barn, down the road, won the Preakness, and was ground up for glue, they decided to check the barn door.

Hubris killed RIM.


Yup. Ex-employee here. When word came down that Jim and Mike both decided the consumer market wasn't worth getting into, I knew it was time to jump ship. Neither of them had vision. Talent, undeniably. Vision, not so much.
 
2012-12-13 12:06:22 PM

theurge14: Mockups are trade secrets, which are definitely not prior art. We've been down this road a million times on Fark.

The before and after iPhone graphic is correct. All the phone manufacturers waited until someone made touchscreen phones worked before they made their own, i.e. management didn't have the guts to green light the models until someone else in the market made it work. Apple showed it worked. The rest followed.


Right. Apple invented the slate form factor for phones. Obviously, all these phones were just cheap knockoffs of the iPhone:

img.ibtimes.com
www.overclock.net
www.engadgetmobile.com
i-cdn.phonearena.com
i-cdn.phonearena.com
i-cdn.phonearena.com
i-cdn.phonearena.com

Oh, wait, every single one of those pre-dates the iPhone. Maybe they borrowed Obama's time machine?
 
2012-12-13 12:08:52 PM

Flint Ironstag: To suggest the iPhone is "derivative" of the Prada is to suggest that Apple only started the design process after seeing the Prada. Could Apple have designed the iPhone from scratch in six months? I doubt it.
The reality is the form factor was and is the obvious one. Once the technology existed for a touch screen, and with phones already having cameras, video cameras, video playback, internet access etc etc the large screen was the design every manufacturer was developing. The first mobile phones had a simple display with one line of digits. Every year since then displays got bigger and bigger. Displays virtually as big as the actual phone was always the obvious result.


You're right. It probably was not derivative, which is probably why LG decided they didn't really have a case to sue Apple over it. Would be nice if Apple acted the same way towards other manufacturers. As you said, and I mentioned in my Weeners to that picture, it's really just "Touchscreens: before and after".
 
2012-12-13 12:26:13 PM
THEY ARE STILL MAKING KEYBOARD DEVICES. THE COMPANY HAS SAID THIS REPEATEDLY.

I don't understand, there have been "leaked" images for like a couple of months, why is this all of a sudden news?

/windows phone loyalist
//too bad though, I'm Canadian so I really would love to like Blackberries
 
2012-12-13 12:31:23 PM

sure haven't: THEY ARE STILL MAKING KEYBOARD DEVICES. THE COMPANY HAS SAID THIS REPEATEDLY.

I don't understand, there have been "leaked" images for like a couple of months, why is this all of a sudden news?

/windows phone loyalist
//too bad though, I'm Canadian so I really would love to like Blackberries


Thank god, I was seriously concerned I was going to have to go to the screen-tappin darkside.
/love my 9900
//hated every touch only device I have ever owned.
///haters gonna hate
 
2012-12-13 12:46:40 PM

abhorrent1: Every smart phone = iphone ripoff!

Only to people who have no understanding of tech, like apple-drones.

theurge14: Mockups are trade secrets, which are definitely not prior art. We've been down this road a million times on Fark.

The before and after iPhone graphic is correct. All the phone manufacturers waited until someone made touchscreen phones worked before they made their own, i.e. management didn't have the guts to green light the models until someone else in the market made it work. Apple showed it worked. The rest followed.

Ya, all the iPhone really did was merge a PDA and a cell phone,it even looks allot like the PDA I bought in back 2003, well within the limits of what apple was suing over. all apple did was prove there was a market for touchscreen phones, nothing more.
 
2012-12-13 01:01:22 PM

doczoidberg: Did they get rid of the keyboard?

Farking idiots. That was the Blackberry's biggest selling point!


They know, and that's why they are releasing the N-series in Q2.
 
2012-12-13 01:05:54 PM
my blackberry storm in 2008 was a touch screen with rounded corners.
 
2012-12-13 01:50:21 PM
They should take the Blackberry logo off the front to avoid scaring away potential customers.
 
2012-12-13 02:30:05 PM

olapbill: my blackberry storm in 2008 was a touch screen with rounded corners.


Yep. So was the Storm 2 and the Torch Touch.
 
2012-12-13 02:40:23 PM

doczoidberg: Did they get rid of the keyboard?

Farking idiots. That was the Blackberry's biggest only selling point!



FTFY

/and even then...
 
2012-12-13 04:07:37 PM

HeartBurnKid: Oh, wait, every single one of those pre-dates the iPhone. Maybe they borrowed Obama's time machine?


Dude, it's like you're posting one picture after another of the iPhone. Could you please label them so we can tell the difference?
 
2012-12-13 04:56:00 PM
The new Blackberry OS looks pretty cool. The best implementation of multitasking since Palm.
 
2012-12-13 06:08:52 PM
FTA: It's also longer (another comparison);

Wait, what?

Apple didn't invent 4" phones. And by making your phone taller != copying the iPhone 5. farking hell.

You know what was also 4"? The Samsung Galaxy S.
 
2012-12-13 10:25:03 PM

miscreant: Good luck RIM. They essentially had the smartphone market in the bag by having the business space locked up, and then sat on their asses and did nothing for years while every other phone maker leapfrogged them. Even if this phone is amazing, they now have to compete for app developers against Apple, Google, and even Microsoft. And everything I've read indicates the phone will not be anything special, so they're just hoping to prevent even more customers from defecting to other devices. Just attempting to halt the flood of customers from leaving is not a plan that is going to end up saving them.


Um, well, it is a start.....
 
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