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(KTAR Phoenix)   On one side of the internet there's a mother who lets her son wear pink, zebra-striped shoes to school. On the other side, a top chef demands that Hasbro make a gender-neutral Easy-Bake Oven to encourage more boys to cook   (ktar.com) divider line 31
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2012-12-13 07:41:30 AM  
5 votes:
Implying that cooking is gender-specific to females is not only sexist, it's asinine in today's world. Chances are your son isn't going to marry a nice girl to cook & clean for him right out of high school. He probably needs to at least know his way around the kitchen a little bit (unless he just wants to eat fast food all the time, be morbidly obese and dead by 45).
2012-12-13 11:25:13 AM  
3 votes:
www.timewarptoys.com
2012-12-13 11:04:37 AM  
3 votes:
Why wouldn't a chef want to encourage learning to cook with a legitimate oven?
2012-12-13 08:55:47 AM  
3 votes:

Snarfangel: I actually had an Easy-Bake oven when I was little. I'm not sure if my mom just thought boys should know how to cook, or if she expected her second child to be a girl.

I used it a couple of times, but I had a lot more fun with the 75-in-1 electronic experiments kit that my grandfather gave me.

/The naughty mnemonic he taught me for resistor color codes was kept a secret from my mom.
//Would have loved an Easy-BlastTM chemistry set.


When I was a little boy I think my parents were concerned that I was obsessed with a doll house I found in the basement. I loved the miniature furniture (had no use for the dolls). They replaced it by getting me into miniature trains, which I also loved. Still turned out gay as the day is long but God bless them, they tried.
2012-12-13 11:22:55 AM  
2 votes:
LOOK YOU PRIMITIVE SCREW HEADS IT IS THE THE 21ST CENTURY AND IF A BOY WANTS TO DRESS IN PINK SHOES, PLAY WITH AN EASY BAKE OVEN, OR WEAR NAIL POLISH SO WHAT?!

Let them at least they are happy unlike 90% of you farktards.

He is just a kid and if he turns out homosexual who cares? I'd rather he be a happy, kind, loving person doing his own thing then a miserable conformist who hates himself and everyone else.
2012-12-13 11:05:54 AM  
2 votes:

kid_icarus: Implying that cooking is gender-specific to females is not only sexist, it's asinine in today's world. Chances are your son isn't going to marry a nice girl to cook & clean for him right out of high school. He probably needs to at least know his way around the kitchen a little bit (unless he just wants to eat fast food all the time, be morbidly obese and dead by 45).


Also, if we want to stay sexist on it, guys should learn how to cook because if a guy can cook well? Probably gonna get laid.
2012-12-13 11:05:23 AM  
2 votes:
Good God! Everyone knows that men will only cook meat over an open fire!
Hasbro should make a Easy-Burn Fire-Pit TM.
2012-12-13 11:02:52 AM  
2 votes:
Wait... women are supposed to be able to cook? Just a sec, I need to show this to my wife...
2012-12-13 08:51:08 AM  
2 votes:
I actually had an Easy-Bake oven when I was little. I'm not sure if my mom just thought boys should know how to cook, or if she expected her second child to be a girl.

I used it a couple of times, but I had a lot more fun with the 75-in-1 electronic experiments kit that my grandfather gave me.

/The naughty mnemonic he taught me for resistor color codes was kept a secret from my mom.
//Would have loved an Easy-BlastTM chemistry set.
2012-12-13 04:47:28 PM  
1 votes:

FarkinHostile: Bondith: Only a woman can cook for her family, but only a man can get paid to cook for strangers.

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My Executive Chef laughs at your post.


Now that made me drool.
then I saw the food.
2012-12-13 03:17:07 PM  
1 votes:
Can't find a link to it online, but someone in our Ag dept did an interesting cook-off.
Had males and females cook meals (of their own choice) and get rated by others who ate the food.
Then the Ag guys took a 12 oz sample meal from each cook, and tested it for nutrients, etc.

The results were that both genders did fine in the 'taste' dept,
but sadly the males produced meals with too much salt, too much fat, not enough fiber, and low on basic nutrients...

...Which sounds like a typical 'chef-made' restaurant meal in the U.S.


/made me laugh b/c that's been exactly my own experience... my guy can cook up a great tasting protein, but sucks at making a balanced meal.
2012-12-13 02:17:35 PM  
1 votes:

spidermilk: I agree there is no need for an easy bake oven for kids to play with baking. With a parent's help any kid can use a *real* oven and learn important things like 'things that come out of the oven are HOT'.

I mean why do you need an easy bake these days? They sell cake, cookie, and muffin mixes where you add 1-3 ingredients, pour in a pan, and bake. Pretty damn easy.


I don't know... America could use more ovens that can only bake one cookie at a time.
2012-12-13 02:00:44 PM  
1 votes:
My two boys said they want an EZ bake for xmas, I was going to grab thier older sisters old one from the attic and hit it with some hi temp krylon black. Couldnt find one for boys online.
2012-12-13 01:55:16 PM  
1 votes:

dopekitty74: i don't see why the ez bake shouldn't be made in gender neutral colors either... plenty of men love to cook and bake..


I was genuinely surprised when I saw that. I was also surprised that Hasbro has it listed on their site as "toys for girls." It's as if nobody in their marketing dept has paid much attention to pop culture for the past 5-10 years, and their unaware of whole "foodie" thing. Most of the serious cooks/foodies I know are dudes. Of my female friends, several are entirely ambivalent about cooking. It just doesn't interest them.
2012-12-13 01:54:56 PM  
1 votes:
I agree there is no need for an easy bake oven for kids to play with baking. With a parent's help any kid can use a *real* oven and learn important things like 'things that come out of the oven are HOT'.

I mean why do you need an easy bake these days? They sell cake, cookie, and muffin mixes where you add 1-3 ingredients, pour in a pan, and bake. Pretty damn easy.

Also agree that any proper man or woman should be able to cook. If you try, if you work on it just a little then you will be able to cook at least a few meals. If you're a bachelor/ette then it helps you not get fat and save money. If you're in a couple, then it helps you help out the other person. People share household chores and that is fine, but there are going to be times when one of you is sick, has to work late, etc. and needs help from the other- that is why you are even in a relationship.

I hate when dudes or women say 'I don't do ____.' and think that is an okay excuse for forcing the chore on their SO.

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2012-12-13 01:18:11 PM  
1 votes:

JNowe: cig-mkr: Cooking and baking, isn't that why we have a wife?


Given the ever-growing list of things we're not supposed to expect of them, I'm not sure why anyone would have a wife.


Because you love each other and it's a marriage, not a cheap way to get hired help for life?

I didn't go "my god my husband doesn't know how to change the oil in my car and my mother had to explain to him how to use a circular saw, why the hell does anyone have a husband".
2012-12-13 11:49:26 AM  
1 votes:

moothemagiccow: MycroftHolmes: At most, his choice of fashion could be his way of announcing his orientation, but he is probably too young for that to be the case.

Oh my god it's a farking pair of shoes


I get that. I am trying to decouple the idea that 'pink clothes=gay' by pointing out that there is no intrinsic link between the two. My point is that at most, some people use fashion to express their orientation, but that this likely not the case here. I am actually agreeing with people who are saying that this is no big deal, while still acknowledging the reasons why some people associate certain fashion with orientation (note: correlation does not equal causation).
2012-12-13 11:46:30 AM  
1 votes:

teeny: Who gives a shiat about the boy wearing pink slippers? He farking *liked* them. Anyone that worries about "forcing a gender role" on a kid over a stupid pair of shoes is an idiot. He's still in a flippin' car seat, for crying out loud. Stop acting like every tiny decision he (or the parent) makes has any influence over his sexuality or understanding of society's expectations.

I've never had an Easy Bake Oven; I was never interested. I always thought it was just another overpriced POS toy. I have 5 boys, and they're all learning how to cook with an *actual* oven. I'm no pro chef by any stretch, but they know how to make basic things and follow a recipe.


The only issue is that he needs to understand that there will likely be peer feedback from making a non-traditional decision. She gave him that information, he made his choice. This is how accountability and responsibility is taught. Don't just beat down your kids into accepting your edicts as canon, but let them (within reason) make their decisions based on an understanding of the consequences.
2012-12-13 11:32:11 AM  
1 votes:
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I had this "easy bake oven" when I was a kid, and it kicked ass.
2012-12-13 11:31:08 AM  
1 votes:

Mr. Toadcheese: Easy-Bake ovens are crap. Teach your kids about real cooking; my cousin had her daughter help her make Christmas cookies this year, and the kid's still in preschool.


This. Instead of getting your kids a piece of pink plastic with a light bulb, spend some time teaching them how to cook, using real appliances.

CSB: When my sister and I were kids, my parents decided that it would be a good thing for us to learn to cook, and so during summer vacation, they had us plan and cook one family dinner each week. Ground rules were that the meals needed to be balanced, couldn't be repeated week after week, and needed to be something you actually cooked (i.e. no frozen pizza). Not only did we learn to cook, but other important stuff like reading a recipe and figuring out what ingredients needed to go on the shopping list.

More parents should do this sort of thing.
HBK
2012-12-13 11:22:31 AM  
1 votes:

Snarfangel: I had a lot more fun with the 75-in-1 electronic experiments kit that my grandfather gave me.


I loved that toy. Look, I can make a buzzer buzz! Hey Mom! look at the numbers I made!
2012-12-13 11:18:23 AM  
1 votes:
I rode my older sisters BRIGHT PINK WITH FLOWERS, BANANA SEAT, AND SISSY BAR BIKE (which is about as gay as you can get) and I'm practically a homophobe! I don't see what the fark these people have a problem with. If you think it's going to turn your little Daisey gay, chances are it wasn't the toys...
2012-12-13 11:17:21 AM  
1 votes:

Uranus Megahertz: Snarfangel: /The naughty mnemonic he taught me for resistor color codes was kept a secret from my mom.

And what's that mnemonic?


The one he taught me was
Bad Boys Rape Only Young Girls, But Violet Goes Willingly. (Later on, I heard the next part, "Get Some Now!")

Or Black, Brown, Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Violent, Gray, White (Gold, Silver, None for the tolerance)

Needless to say, when I took a radio class in Jr. High (with Mr. Hoffman), I was taught a tamer version, which I promptly forgot.
2012-12-13 11:14:30 AM  
1 votes:

BoxOfBees: Parenting... how does it work?

Oh, that's right, give your children whatever they ask for and let them do whatever they want.

I don't understand why the mom told the kid those shoes weren't for him, but then bought him the shoes and let him wear them anyway. Because he supplied a cogent argument using the classic ninja strategy, apparently. Outwitted by a 5-year-old. Kudos, "mom"


Orrrr, she is letting him make his own choices by giving him the information he needs and letting him be accountable for the outcomes. Crazy, I know, to let a 5 year old actually make a few decisions for himself and have his own opinions and desires.
2012-12-13 11:13:58 AM  
1 votes:
Instead of an Easy-Bake oven, how about an Easy-Barbeque grill? That's appropriate for boys.
2012-12-13 11:12:05 AM  
1 votes:
but the boy, whose favorite animal is a zebra, replied that "ninjas can wear pink shoes too."

Hell yeah, buddy. You were whatever you want to. That kid is frickin' awesome.
2012-12-13 11:10:33 AM  
1 votes:

kid_icarus: Implying that cooking is gender-specific to females is not only sexist, it's asinine in today's world. Chances are your son isn't going to marry a nice girl to cook & clean for him right out of high school. He probably needs to at least know his way around the kitchen a little bit (unless he just wants to eat fast food all the time, be morbidly obese and dead by 45).


That, plus the fact that girls nowadays LOVE it when guys can cook. My girlfriend is an outstanding cook, and she loves to do it (which is great for me!), but even she likes that I can make her something if she's tired/stressed/not feeling well. If you're raising your sons to not know how to cook, you're really making dating and getting married more challenging for them.
2012-12-13 11:10:02 AM  
1 votes:
They need to make sewing machines targeted at men. Early on in our marriage, I asked my wife if she would hem my pants. She had no clue what I was talking about.
2012-12-13 11:08:46 AM  
1 votes:
I think I used my sister's easy-bake more than she did.

/if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself, and I want brownies.
2012-12-13 11:05:47 AM  
1 votes:

Cythraul: kid_icarus: Implying that cooking is gender-specific to females is not only sexist, it's asinine in today's world. Chances are your son isn't going to marry a nice girl to cook & clean for him right out of high school. He probably needs to at least know his way around the kitchen a little bit (unless he just wants to eat fast food all the time, be morbidly obese and dead by 45).

I forced myself to learn how to cook in my mid twenties out of necessity, and eventually learned that I find it quite enjoyable. I got tired of eating junk (frozen pizza, fast food burger places, hot pockets, little debbie snacks, and so on) and decided I missed a nice home cooked meal.


Mum made sure I had at least one recipe under my belt before I left home. Being a chemist helped as well, since cooking is basically kitchen chemistry. (Disclaimer: I actually fairly terrible in the lab.)

I've found it amusing that the sexist idea of a male cook, which has been around for quite a while, is suddenly found acceptable if they're a professional chef. Put a fancy hat on them, and increase their technical skill in cooking and suddenly it's 'okay' for a man to be in the kitchen.

Not only that, once they get their funny hat and their chromed ovens, suddenly women aren't allowed to play anymore. Only a woman can cook for her family, but only a man can get paid to cook for strangers.
2012-12-13 09:07:47 AM  
1 votes:

thismomentinblackhistory: Snarfangel: I actually had an Easy-Bake oven when I was little. I'm not sure if my mom just thought boys should know how to cook, or if she expected her second child to be a girl.

I used it a couple of times, but I had a lot more fun with the 75-in-1 electronic experiments kit that my grandfather gave me.

/The naughty mnemonic he taught me for resistor color codes was kept a secret from my mom.
//Would have loved an Easy-BlastTM chemistry set.

When I was a little boy I think my parents were concerned that I was obsessed with a doll house I found in the basement. I loved the miniature furniture (had no use for the dolls). They replaced it by getting me into miniature trains, which I also loved. Still turned out gay as the day is long but God bless them, they tried.


If you had really ever wanted to fark with them, the best thing to tell them would have been that the phallic imagery of the trains is what made you gay.


Anyway, weren't Easy Bake ovens just Creepy Crawlers machines with cake pans instead of goop and molds?
 
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