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(Gizmodo)   Apple decides killing its userbase is probably not the most wise business decision, puts Google Maps back on the App Store   (gizmodo.com) divider line 101
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2012-12-13 07:38:50 AM

azmoviez: If they'd allow me to choose which map service to integrate with the device like they do with search then it would be just fine


Yes this. I'd also like it if they'd incorporate the bike directions feature as well.
 
2012-12-13 07:38:52 AM
Commiting suicide? There's (no longer) an app for that.
 
2012-12-13 07:39:00 AM

imgod2u: Meanwhiles, Android users shrug and wonder what all the fuss is about.


Some serious Mickey Mouse shiat.
 
2012-12-13 08:06:55 AM

taurusowner: Except I have 20,484 songs and audio books, with associated Play Counts, Album Art, Star Ratings, and Last Positions that I already sync with an iPod Classic and an iPod Nano. Drag and drop simply cannot keep up with this. I like being able to rate a new song 5 stars on my PC and have it automatically populate to the "Top Rated" playlists on both iPods, I like being able to stop halfway through a 1 hour audiobook chapter on my home audio system and have it resume exactly where I stopped on my iPod in my car automatically. I like being able to have a "recently added" smart playlist that automatically pulls the most recent tracks from my podcasts, then removes them after I listen to them on each different platform without me having to go through and delete them by hand. Drag and drop simply cannot accomplish any of this. iTunes can. And I would like to add my Android phone to this as well. 

And I also like to hear what I want at the moment. And letting my browse by looking through Genre>Artist>Album>Song is the easiest way for me to do this. ITunes is the only app that really does this well. Ever other music application that uses metadata only using three levels of nested organization. Browse by Genre and it lists all the Albums in that Genre. That may be fine if you have a few hundred songs over a few dozen Albums. But I currently have 10056 Albums. Without the 4 levels of nesting, actually searching for something is next to impossible. And iTunes is the only music managing application I know of that lets me do this.


THIS
iTunes is not perfect. Anyone who tells you that it is, is a moran.
Are other things better?
Well, to start with, they have to do all of the things that iTunes currently does, do them better, and do additional things. Otherwise, WHY would I use them?

Genius thingy needs MANY MORE OPTIONS. I want a lot more control over what it does and which songs it will put in a genius list.

In the end, I only want highly rated songs to ever show up in these lists and it doesnt work that way ... yet.

I would be surpised to find that many iphone owners use something completely different, let alone 12 different apps to do the different things which are all contained in iTunes.

Hm .... I would like to see that set up. And if the effort required by me to recreate that setup is a PAIN in the ass? why would I waste my time?? And if they cost money? forget about it

BAH

I hate apple as much as the next guy. but ... my 3 year old phone works perfect and itunes is part of that perfection.

Let me know when gTunes exists and contains close to 100% of my current functionality in one, easy to use package.

/why do these people think that our goal is to spend time farking around with our software? my goal is to listen to my tunes. nothing more, nothing less.
 
2012-12-13 08:08:51 AM
Or jailbreak, and have whatever you want.
 
db2
2012-12-13 08:24:34 AM
Seems to work alright on my iPhone 4. It's a little more choppy than the old built-in one, but it's a hell of a lot better than using Google Maps through Safari (which is almost completely broken). I mostly use it for searching for local businesses (based on what they do, not part of the name), or getting a quick overview map to orient myself or check freeway traffic. Apple's Maps sucks at pretty much all of those.
 
2012-12-13 08:28:16 AM

moel: My point is this...i would consider myself a typical iPhone user...I would consider my friends, typical iPhone users too....

Out of all of us, we maybe use 'Maps' (either in it's current or previous form) for something other than looking at the roof of someones house...3 times a year?


Then you and your friends are not typical users. The thought pattern of "I don't use it so why would anyone else?" is extremely narrow minded and narcissistic.

moel: Thornhill, buy a bike/scooter/car cheap ass ;)


You call someone else a cheap ass after biatching about an app burning through your data allowance?
 
2012-12-13 08:32:57 AM
For those who had or have no problem with Apple Maps, good for you. The google app is meant for people who do have problems with the current apple maps.

/duh
//recycled talking point
 
2012-12-13 08:38:44 AM

Elegy: Has everyone really had that many problems with the new iOS6 maps, or am I just the only person on the planet that HASN'T had a problem with it?

I love the new iOS6 maps. It has yet send me wrong, but then again I only use it to plug in addresses, not to search for things. I've also found that its 3-4 times faster than the old map app and routing info is displayed in a much more intuitive manner. You also get voice directions and 3rd person views when following a route now, just like a real GPS.

It feels weird to be the only person on the planet that doesn't hate the new apple maps.


The biggest problem for Apple maps is that outside of the States, it is a miserably lacking dataset. So yeah, if you live is a relatively populated area in the States, it isn't too bad.

...but still....

I had to take my son to a birthday party at a bowling alley that I didn't know existed (the local one closed down, so the party was a couple of towns over). Apple maps put the bowling alley in the middle of a forest preserve. With no road access.
 
2012-12-13 08:51:24 AM

haemaker: gingerjet: haemaker: Keep in mind, they slapped this together in a few months. They weren't even sure it would be accepted. I imagine there will be a subsequent version that is more app like.

Which is complete bullshiat. Google knew this was happening for months if not a year before Apple pulled the app. Same with the youtube app. And people within google should be fired if they didn't see this happening.

The announcement came in June...this is December. Google and Apple were negotiating up till the last minute.


But, Apple had been complaining about the lack of features on Google's Maps app for years, which is what led to the negotiations. Google certainly knew that, if they didn't start providing turn by turn directions the way they were with Android, their iOS days were numbered.
 
2012-12-13 09:10:43 AM
My solution to Apple dropping Google Maps was to get a Nexus 4. So far no complaints. The fact I'm saving $50 a month is also nice.
 
2012-12-13 09:12:26 AM

taurusowner: And iTunes is the only music managing application I know of that lets me do this.


Apple: Mission Accomplished.

Getting your stuck for life was their goal.
 
2012-12-13 09:18:48 AM

taurusowner: nd letting my browse by looking through Genre>Artist>Album>Song is the easiest way for me to do this. ITunes is the only app that really does this well. Ever other music application that uses metadata only using three levels of nested organization. Browse by Genre and it lists all the Albums in that Genre. That may be fine if you have a few hundred songs over a few dozen Albums. But I currently have 10056 Albums. Without the 4 levels of nesting, actually searching for something is next to impossible.


Cool, but know that you yourself are creating that mess for you.

Who the fark sorts their music by something as spurious as "genre". Stick to the facts. Artist, Album. Song.
 
2012-12-13 09:27:45 AM

meyerkev: taurusowner: Just get the .apk file of the old one offline and install it as a third party app.

Oh...wait...nevermind.


Although, I really wish there was an iTunes app for Android. Every music player on Android sucks and there aren't any good music management or syncing applications for PCs that work like iTunes but for Android. I already use iTunes as my music player and for my two iPods. If they just made a iTunes app for Android I could have seemless syncing across all three platforms including play counts, ratings, last position etc. And iTunes is one of the very very few music apps that lets you nest your music in a Genre->Artist->Album->Song order. Mixzing is the only one for Android that works this same way. Every other one including the native Google Music only works with 3 levels. So Genre->Album->Song or Artist->Album->Song. It's very cumbersome.

If you want to get the infinite joy of every single Android dev who's ever hit this problem, write a multiply expanding list. (As of 2.2, the last time I programmed for Android,) The expanding list class could only expand out into lists. So you can only get 2 levels off the expanding list. So in this case, you get a list of Artists, each of which expands into a list of albums, each of which shifts you over to another view that lists the album's songs. If you want to do 2 nestings, you have to either write your own expanding list class, or shift them over into a 2nd view for the last expansion.


So, man up and write an expanding list? Java isn't that hard :P
 
2012-12-13 09:28:38 AM

Carth: My solution to Apple dropping Google Maps was to get a Nexus 4. So far no complaints. The fact I'm saving $50 a month is also nice.


I had not bought an Apple product since the Lazer IIE of my youth.
Last year I bought my daughter an Ipod Touch 4 (essentially the phone without the cell part, right?) as an experiment in the "Apple" world on the cheap. I just ordered my Galaxy S3 this week.
 
2012-12-13 09:29:25 AM

Theaetetus: haemaker: gingerjet: haemaker: Keep in mind, they slapped this together in a few months. They weren't even sure it would be accepted. I imagine there will be a subsequent version that is more app like.

Which is complete bullshiat. Google knew this was happening for months if not a year before Apple pulled the app. Same with the youtube app. And people within google should be fired if they didn't see this happening.

The announcement came in June...this is December. Google and Apple were negotiating up till the last minute.

But, Apple had been complaining about the lack of features on Google's Maps app for years, which is what led to the negotiations. Google certainly knew that, if they didn't start providing turn by turn directions the way they were with Android, their iOS days were numbered.


I think they thought they could safely wait until their contract was going to expire in a year and use that as a negotiation tactic.
 
2012-12-13 09:35:35 AM

Arthur Jumbles: I'm disappointed. I guess I assumed it would be just like the old Google Maps app, with maybe some new features thrown in. I didn't realize that the tight integration with the rest of the iPhone was one of the things I loved about the old app. I really miss the drop pins too.

However, usability is one thing but accuracy is another. Plus, public transportation is a major plus. So.... even though it's a pale shade of its former glory I'll use you Google Maps but I'll always remember you as you were.


The old Google Maps app was written by Apple using the Google Maps API. That's why it's taken Google so long to put Google Maps in the App Store - because they had to rewrite the entire app from the ground up.
 
2012-12-13 09:37:41 AM

OriginalGamer: They both are really much better than they were, Google hadn't done jack to update either one in years when they were stock.


Because Google didn't write them - they were created by Apple using Google's APIs.
 
2012-12-13 09:38:49 AM

haemaker: Personally, I think Google should have taken a page from Microsoft's playbook and ignored iOS. Niche market at this point.


I hope your calling iOS a niche market was sarcasm, right?
 
2012-12-13 09:46:45 AM

Corvus: Mr.Tangent: How nice of them to offer a choice. Choices...what will those wizards of Cupertino come up with next.

There are thousands of navigation and map apps in the iPhone store. I belie e many more than android phones have. Apple never stopped Google from submitting their map app, Google did.


Seriously, I can't believe the misconceptions people have about the whole issue.

1) Google was not responsible for the original Maps or Youtube App. Apple made a deal with Google so that Google provides access to Youtube and Maps and the features that came along with both (for instance, Street View). Google gave Apple the API access so they can write those apps. The original Maps and Youtube app codebases were made and maintained by Apple alone. Apple was the one who didn't make any changes to either between iOS 1 and iOS 5.

2) The delay for releasing a Google Maps app was because Google didn't anticipate that there would have to be a Google Maps app because their deal with Apple was supposed to last until the end of 2013. Apple ended the deal one year early. Because Apple was the one who wrote and maintained the original Maps and Youtube Apps, Google had to scramble to write a replacement Maps and Youtube App from the ground up (and then go through quality control and testing). That is why there was a delay in getting the Google Maps app into the App Store.

Am I the only one who bothered to follow this story? It was kind of a big deal in the tech industry for several months.
 
2012-12-13 09:48:51 AM
For those of you who didn't know (and that seem like most of you), Google didn't develop the original Maps app, Apple did. Apple licensed Google's maps but were barred from implementing turn-by-turn functionality even though that was available on Android.

The new Maps is a good concept. They licensed a map database from TomTom and then tried to use social services and other data sources to keep the maps up to date and enhance accuracy. It sounds like a valid premise, but they really needed to have the app out as an option for a few years while they played with the algorithm before making it the default map for the phone. Hopefully they will keep working on it.
 
2012-12-13 10:00:08 AM

RexTalionis: OriginalGamer: They both are really much better than they were, Google hadn't done jack to update either one in years when they were stock.

Because Google didn't write them - they were created by Apple using Google's APIs.


There is also some confusion as to why the iOS Maps app didn't have turn-by-turn navigation and other features.

Google's map data isn't 100% Google's. They license a lot fo information from third parties to fill in gaps. As part of those agreements, Google can license their maps API to other companies, with the caveat that they are not used with certain features (such as turn-by-turn). Apple wanted turn-by-turn in their app, but they couldn't legally use it due to the licensing agreement with Google.

This wasn't nefarious on anyone's part.
 
2012-12-13 10:00:28 AM

Surool: Subby, the lack of turn by turn navigation, public transit directions and street view is why Apple dropped the Maps app from iOS6. Google's app for Android did things they refused to put in the iOS maps.


The old maps app did street view and public transit directions. Granted, how to get to street view wasn't obvious.
 
2012-12-13 10:13:47 AM
 
2012-12-13 10:17:27 AM
While I do think it's funny that Australia had to put up a sign saying Apple Maps may cause death Link I think this pissing match between Google and Apple has gotten pretty silly. I prefer Android for one reason, it let's me pick default apps for various things while iOS doesn't (unless you can do it after jailbreaking but I don't know if you can). Apple's attempt to get all Google's services has backfired and Google isn't going to ignore iOS's fan base as they want your data to which is what makes Google Maps more accurate. Ingress is helping them tremendously by making a game that does nothing but data mine for android. Apple pulled the native YouTube and Google Maps apps from iOS which weren't even written by Google and Google had to code them for iOS now so the fact they aren't as well integrated or the same isn't shocking..
 
2012-12-13 10:41:24 AM

BullBearMS: Aussie police are now warning that data in Google Maps could result in fatal accidents.

Police in Colac, west of Melbourne, say faults with Google maps are putting people's lives at risk along the Great Ocean Road and in the southern Otways.

Sergeant Nick Buenen says trucks, buses and tourists are being directed down Wild Dog Road, which is a one-way track, not built for heavy traffic.

He says VicRoads has denied responsibility and Google Maps has not responded.

"My issue is it's a significant safety issue for tourists [and] locals, who are getting the wrong information from their GPSs," he said.

A data flaw which was previously responsible for a child's death was also present in Google's map data, and it took over a year for authorities to convince Google to correct it.

Lately, Callagan has been working with technology companies to remove closed and hazardous roads from their navigation databases - but with only partial success.

"I'm pulling my hair," he said. "I was never able to reach a single human with Google Earth Maps. But in their system, they have a way you can let them know something is wrong. And over the course of a year, I was able to get their maps updated."

Things went more smoothly with TomTom, a major manufacturer of GPS units for cars. "I had a representative right here. He was real professional. I was able to sit down and say, 'Nope, that doesn't exist,' " Callagan said. 

Sounds safe.


Or you know.......READ A REAL MAP!

/don't blindly follow any GPS
 
2012-12-13 11:11:35 AM
I'm using a 3GS with iOS 6, and some of the Apple Maps functions aren't permitted on the older phones (like 3D view for turn-by-turn). Looks like Google has that, which is nice.
 
2012-12-13 11:30:21 AM
I just downloaded the Google Maps app and so far so good. The two latest problems I encountered just this weekend alone with the Apple Maps have no problem in Gmaps. Fort Totten Metro station was actually found ("No results" in iMaps) and a camera shop in Bethesda was where it was supposed to be, not in the middle of a construction pit where iMaps wanted to lead me.

Corvus: Waze is better anyway. Who the fark cares.

I can't use Waze unless my phone is charging. I agree with the others regarding battery.

rocky_howard: Who the fark sorts their music by something as spurious as "genre". Stick to the facts. Artist, Album. Song.

ZOMG!!! Someone doesn't do things the way you do it??!!! Don't worry, you'll get over it.

roflmaonow: For those who had or have no problem with Apple Maps, good for you. The google app is meant for people who do have problems with the current apple maps.

Thank you! This!
 
2012-12-13 11:34:43 AM

rocky_howard: taurusowner: nd letting my browse by looking through Genre>Artist>Album>Song is the easiest way for me to do this. ITunes is the only app that really does this well. Ever other music application that uses metadata only using three levels of nested organization. Browse by Genre and it lists all the Albums in that Genre. That may be fine if you have a few hundred songs over a few dozen Albums. But I currently have 10056 Albums. Without the 4 levels of nesting, actually searching for something is next to impossible.

Cool, but know that you yourself are creating that mess for you.

Who the fark sorts their music by something as spurious as "genre". Stick to the facts. Artist, Album. Song.


i like browsing by genre sometimes, but things need to get a little more robust. No, this album is thrash metal, but that one is speed metal. And over here we have hardcore punk, and some crossover thrash.
 
2012-12-13 12:35:58 PM

Arthur Jumbles: I'm disappointed. I guess I assumed it would be just like the old Google Maps app, with maybe some new features thrown in. I didn't realize that the tight integration with the rest of the iPhone was one of the things I loved about the old app. I really miss the drop pins too.

However, usability is one thing but accuracy is another. Plus, public transportation is a major plus. So.... even though it's a pale shade of its former glory I'll use you Google Maps but I'll always remember you as you were.


This right here. The public transportation feature is a major feature for me.
 
2012-12-13 12:39:20 PM

Arthur Jumbles: I'm disappointed. I guess I assumed it would be just like the old Google Maps app, with maybe some new features thrown in. I didn't realize that the tight integration with the rest of the iPhone was one of the things I loved about the old app.


This. Google Maps doesn't talk to my Contact list anymore, which makes it the second or third choice for most of my needs. I could just copy and paste an address from my Contact list into Google Maps, but Apple Maps is easier to use right now. If I need directions while I'm driving, I want as few clicks as possible.
 
2012-12-13 12:42:22 PM

Jackpot777: I'm using a 3GS with iOS 6


buy a new phone, you cheapskate
 
2012-12-13 12:47:22 PM

gingerjet: haemaker: Keep in mind, they slapped this together in a few months. They weren't even sure it would be accepted. I imagine there will be a subsequent version that is more app like.

Which is complete bullshiat. Google knew this was happening for months if not a year before Apple pulled the app. Same with the youtube app. And people within google should be fired if they didn't see this happening.


gingerjet makes me laugh with his complete inability to be critical of anything Apple does.

moel: With all due...the whole Apple Maps situation has been completely blown out of proportion...if your using it as a GPS your a retard, especially abroad...

OH win, it can eat my battery AND my data allowance...


So your problem is that iPhones have a terrible battery life? Just because you're 15 and not allowed to leave your cul-de-sac doesn't mean that other people don't constantly have to use A MAP. Buy a car, get a job, just do something and suddenly you will find more of a use for it then 3 times a year.
 
2012-12-13 12:54:27 PM

BullBearMS: Aussie police are now warning that data in Google Maps could result in fatal accidents.

Police in Colac, west of Melbourne, say faults with Google maps are putting people's lives at risk along the Great Ocean Road and in the southern Otways.

Sergeant Nick Buenen says trucks, buses and tourists are being directed down Wild Dog Road, which is a one-way track, not built for heavy traffic.

He says VicRoads has denied responsibility and Google Maps has not responded.

"My issue is it's a significant safety issue for tourists [and] locals, who are getting the wrong information from their GPSs," he said.

A data flaw which was previously responsible for a child's death was also present in Google's map data, and it took over a year for authorities to convince Google to correct it.

Lately, Callagan has been working with technology companies to remove closed and hazardous roads from their navigation databases - but with only partial success.

"I'm pulling my hair," he said. "I was never able to reach a single human with Google Earth Maps. But in their system, they have a way you can let them know something is wrong. And over the course of a year, I was able to get their maps updated."

Things went more smoothly with TomTom, a major manufacturer of GPS units for cars. "I had a representative right here. He was real professional. I was able to sit down and say, 'Nope, that doesn't exist,' " Callagan said. 

Sounds safe.


t1.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-13 01:03:58 PM
PowerAmp is a decent, fairly customizable music app for Android. It isn't free, but it's worth it.
 
2012-12-13 01:36:50 PM

OriginalGamer: Apple removes YouTube and Google Maps from iOS6. Both get released as stand alone apps improved over their former stock selves. Other than the 3 months of using Apple Maps (or just using Maps.Google.com) I'm not seeing the downside.

They both are really much better than they were, Google hadn't done jack to update either one in years when they were stock.


Bears repeating.
Although the old map and Youtube apps used Google data and tools, it's not Google's app, it's Apple's job to update it. Blame Apple.
 
2012-12-13 01:39:17 PM

Mike_LowELL: moel: your a retard

For the love of God.


I ARE RETARD CAT.
i18.photobucket.com
THIS ARE RETARD THREAD.
 
2012-12-13 01:47:47 PM
Why are we acting like the old one was so good? It was terrible. Granted, the new one is a honkin' piece of shiat, but the old one was not the God-like get-you-anywhere navigation app everyone seems to think it was. The Google Maps App on Android is awesome, though.
 
2012-12-13 02:08:06 PM

Masso: OriginalGamer: Apple removes YouTube and Google Maps from iOS6. Both get released as stand alone apps improved over their former stock selves. Other than the 3 months of using Apple Maps (or just using Maps.Google.com) I'm not seeing the downside.

They both are really much better than they were, Google hadn't done jack to update either one in years when they were stock.

Bears repeating.
Although the old map and Youtube apps used Google data and tools, it's not Google's app, it's Apple's job to update it. Blame Apple.


Except Google literally wouldn't let them. Google's Map license didnt allow for Vector maps, or turn by turn voice navigation. Google refused to budge on that point. So Apple didnt really have much choice other than to remove it and make their own. It was either that or be stuck with a feature poor Map app.

In the end, it has worked better for us, as we know have a properly updated Google Maps app as opposed to something that hadn't changed in years and never would.
 
2012-12-13 02:22:34 PM

BullBearMS: Aussie police are now warning that data in Google Maps could result in fatal accidents.

Police in Colac, west of Melbourne, say faults with Google maps are putting people's lives at risk along the Great Ocean Road and in the southern Otways.

Sergeant Nick Buenen says trucks, buses and tourists are being directed down Wild Dog Road, which is a one-way track, not built for heavy traffic.

He says VicRoads has denied responsibility and Google Maps has not responded.

"My issue is it's a significant safety issue for tourists [and] locals, who are getting the wrong information from their GPSs," he said.

A data flaw which was previously responsible for a child's death was also present in Google's map data, and it took over a year for authorities to convince Google to correct it.

Lately, Callagan has been working with technology companies to remove closed and hazardous roads from their navigation databases - but with only partial success.

"I'm pulling my hair," he said. "I was never able to reach a single human with Google Earth Maps. But in their system, they have a way you can let them know something is wrong. And over the course of a year, I was able to get their maps updated."

Things went more smoothly with TomTom, a major manufacturer of GPS units for cars. "I had a representative right here. He was real professional. I was able to sit down and say, 'Nope, that doesn't exist,' " Callagan said. 

Sounds safe.


Apple Maps has led to some amusing navigational mishaps, but police in central Australia say the wayward app's troubles are no joke. A half-dozen Australian iPhone users relying on the app to reach a far-flung city found themselves 43 miles away in a dangerous situation deep inside a national park.

The unlucky travelers were trying to reach Mildura, Australia, a city of 30,000 in northwestern Victoria. Instead, they found themselves in Murray Sunset National Park, where there is no water supply and temperatures regularly reach 115 degrees Fahrenheit. Some were stranded for 24 hours without proper food or water.

Local police said in a statement that they are "extremely concerned" about the off-base directions and are urging drivers to disregard Apple's service in the region.

Apple CEO Tim Cook apologized for Maps earlier this year and vowed to fix any bugs. Maybe he needs to threaten engineers with exile in the Outback to get results.


You were saying?
 
2012-12-13 02:36:10 PM
haemaker: Personally, I think Google should have taken a page from Microsoft's playbook and ignored iOS. Niche market at this point.

I think we just discovered Steve Ballmer's Fark handle. Hey Steve, remember when you said the iPhone would never have any significant market share?
 
2012-12-13 02:38:30 PM

taurusowner: Just get the .apk file of the old one offline and install it as a third party app.

Oh...wait...nevermind.


Although, I really wish there was an iTunes app for Android. Every music player on Android sucks and there aren't any good music management or syncing applications for PCs that work like iTunes but for Android. I already use iTunes as my music player and for my two iPods. If they just made a iTunes app for Android I could have seemless syncing across all three platforms including play counts, ratings, last position etc. And iTunes is one of the very very few music apps that lets you nest your music in a Genre->Artist->Album->Song order. Mixzing is the only one for Android that works this same way. Every other one including the native Google Music only works with 3 levels. So Genre->Album->Song or Artist->Album->Song. It's very cumbersome.


If you're already using iTunes on your desktop, DoubleTwist is the way to go on Android.
 
2012-12-13 05:13:56 PM

Vash's Apprentice: You were saying?


thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2012-12-13 05:17:12 PM

HeartBurnKid: If you're already using iTunes on your desktop, DoubleTwist is the way to go on Android.


Came here to say this.
 
2012-12-13 05:20:05 PM

HeartBurnKid: taurusowner: Just get the .apk file of the old one offline and install it as a third party app.

Oh...wait...nevermind.


Although, I really wish there was an iTunes app for Android. Every music player on Android sucks and there aren't any good music management or syncing applications for PCs that work like iTunes but for Android. I already use iTunes as my music player and for my two iPods. If they just made a iTunes app for Android I could have seemless syncing across all three platforms including play counts, ratings, last position etc. And iTunes is one of the very very few music apps that lets you nest your music in a Genre->Artist->Album->Song order. Mixzing is the only one for Android that works this same way. Every other one including the native Google Music only works with 3 levels. So Genre->Album->Song or Artist->Album->Song. It's very cumbersome.

If you're already using iTunes on your desktop, DoubleTwist is the way to go on Android.


I've had pretty good results with WinAMP... The desktop client syncs both iTunes and WMP playlists, as well as any present on the phone, and it will do WiFi syncing. The WinAMP pro upgrade on the Android Market is kinda meh... it basically unlocks a couple options like a better equalizer and crossfade options. The real bonus to the paid version is FLAC support.
 
2012-12-13 06:09:15 PM

Corvus: Mr.Tangent: How nice of them to offer a choice. Choices...what will those wizards of Cupertino come up with next.

There are thousands of navigation and map apps in the iPhone store. I belie e many more than android phones have. Apple never stopped Google from submitting their map app, Google did.


Thanks for the info sport. See poe's law.
 
2012-12-13 07:47:02 PM
Is this the same Apple that every other OS release they leave the entire userbase behind?
 
2012-12-13 11:00:25 PM

quizzical: If I need directions while I'm driving, I want as few clicks as possible.


You really shouldn't be clicking while driving.
 
2012-12-13 11:03:10 PM
Does anyone remember that the App Store didn't exist for a year after the iPhone was introduced? The iPhone had Apple's built-in apps and that was it. Unfortunately Apple's Google-powered Maps and YouTube apps that were included on the original iPhone were barely updated in five years because of the restrictions Apple had in using Google's APIs.

Google had its own YouTube app ready to go immediately when Apple removed the built-in YouTube app. Not sure what took them so long with Google Maps.
 
2012-12-14 10:08:27 AM
i am using a 1st gen iPad, what's all this about maps fail? ;)

/never upgrade sight unseen...wait until you hear what kind of fook up you might be getting into
//also, i am cheap and old tech is cheaper than new tech
///flip phone in da hizzy!
 
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