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(link goes nowhere)   TFer UncleScam wants to quit smoking on 1/1... Would love to hear some advice, suggestions, experiences or polkas   ( divider line 395
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2003-12-09 09:25:24 AM  

lordrunningclam, that' s exactly what I did.

I am in a drug research study for a drug called Rimonabant that is supposed to curb cravings and appetite increase after smoking. It's been 12 weeks since I started on the drug (or placebo) and 8 weeks since my quit date, and I've been doing great! They told us to quit however we wanted to, and I just decided a Thursday sounded good.

I smoked normally until my day, went to bed, woke up, and didn't smoke. I am now experiencing all the wonderful benefits everyone has been talking about. I do have to admit I fell off a little, but, here's the odd thing, I had NO URGE WHATSOEVER to start up again! I guess I got extremely lucky. In hindsight, I had my 'cheater' smokes from the viewpoint of a non-smoker who just decided to have a smoke. Even just a couple of weeks after quitting, the cigs tasted like SHIAT. I am gaining a *little* weight, but not too bad.

If I *do* have the actual drug (I think I do; I can't believe it would be this easy to quit after 8 years), then I HIGHLY recommend Rimonabant to anyone who wants to quit. You know, once it has, um, FDA approval and all that.

Anyway, Uncle, I think you're onto something. Quit the way you feel most comfortable, and the way which gives you the most confidence. Good luck, man!

2003-12-09 09:25:59 AM  
Do what I did:

Have a BIG FARKING heart attack right after you quit. The emergency room nurse will rip off the nicotine patch on you chest and replace it with a big glob of nitroglycerin paste.
2003-12-09 09:29:06 AM  
Why wait? I was going to wait until January 1st too but then a few weeks back just decided to quit once I'd finished the pack I was currently smoking.

It was very difficult for the first week but now the craving's gone, I like the fact that my clothes don't stink, my wife likes the fact that I don't taste like an ashtray, and I'm sleeping better. My car doesn't stink any more, and I really like the bit where I have $75 more a month to spend. Been out drinking a couple of times with smoker friends since quitting and managed not to crack there, which was always my weak spot.

I gave up once before and lasted a year. I just tried to go another day without smoking each day and soon enough I was up to a week, then a month and so on. I'm not saying that will work for everyone, just how I did it.

Then we had a break-in at home, followed by somebody trying to nick the car (and doing a damn good job of ruining it) in the space of a week. At Christmas. So I caved.

Good luck with it.
2003-12-09 09:29:24 AM  

My mom takes this and she is smoke free for 7 months as of now, after smoking heavily for FORTY-SIX years. Even with no insurance she said it is cheaper than smoking a pack a day.
2003-12-09 09:31:05 AM  

allright, how's this for some readable fontage?

the heart attack idea ain't bad... i might have to work on that.

i'm afraid of having a lung attack - i'm not sure my lungs know what real "air" tastes like....

i'm definitely afraid of gaining weight - i'm already too fat - but i'll run around the f*cking block if i have to. it's worth it.
2003-12-09 09:31:15 AM  
Smoked for 15 year, quit back in 10 Oct 1988.

Whenever the urge to smoke arose, I took ten deep yoga-style breaths (from the lower abdomen).

Kept two mantras:

1) Whether I smoke one or don't smoke one, the urge to smoke will go away.

2) Everybody quits smoking eventually.

Kept a picture in my office of that guy missing the lower half of his jaw. Can't find the picture on the web, but this picture below might help.

[image from too old to be available]
2003-12-09 09:33:47 AM  

other forms addiction are not of the type where you share the experience with every random passerby on the sidewalk. do you know how many times some motherfarker has exhaled his smoke and i got the full brunt of it just because i was walking behind them?

Why don't you see anti-drinking ads plastered all over the TV. Why is alcohol socially acceptable but smoking is not? Alcohol destroys far more lives every year than smoking EVER will. If you're going to attack people's decisions, at least be consistent.

smokers think they are entitled to fark up the air of those around them. fark smokers.

Then I assume you don't drive a vehicle, or use plastics, or drink alcohol, or do anything at all that might cause someone to be harmed in any way. Yeah, you're not a hypocrite at ALL.
2003-12-09 09:35:20 AM  
Though I can't top that hefty piece of anatomical photography, I can say this.

Don't smoke. Get friends to help support you. When you want that cigarrette, find something else to do until you forget about it. You only just have to put away one urge at a time.

Good luck, and (if Christian) God bless.
2003-12-09 09:35:28 AM  
I smoked for about 20 years. I told myself for years that I would quit and I finally did this past February. It's been close to a year and I haven't smoked one. Like some of the previous posters I would love to have a cigarette but why bother? It smells good, it feels good, and the only you will quit is if you really want to do it. Cold turkey. I'm sorry I don't have anything better for you hehe. If you don't want to do it, don't do it no matter how much it hurts to stop.

Oh, Welbutrin SR is the same as Zyban. You could get a prescription for it and it is a hell of a lot cheaper than the $75 I was charged for Zyban a couple years ago. I quit for about three months using Zyban but started again. My heart wasn't into it.
2003-12-09 09:35:35 AM  
Worked for me.
Worked for 10 of my friends
Worked for my Boss.
No stress, no withdrawal symptoms.
No problems.
I read the book last october. 13 months without even WANTING a ciggarette.

Life is good.
2003-12-09 09:36:33 AM  
There is a guy in Brookline, MA nicknamed "The Mad Russian" who's office is on Beacon Street near Washington Square. He helps people with addictions. It will be 14 months tommorrow since I saw him and I still haven't had a smoke since.
2003-12-09 09:37:13 AM  
I quit smoking 14 1/2 months ago, and the thing that helped me more than anything: Sunflower seeds. Buy lots and lots and lots. *Pounds*. They help keep your hands and mouth busy. Buy the kind with shells. Do NOT worry about gaining weight, you can always lose it again later. Make quitting smoking your first priority. Also, drink so much water that you're running to the bathroom every 20 minutes. It'll help flush out your system. The worst is over in the first three days, after that it gets easier. Whatever you do, don't smoke... it's not an option, don't let it be one. Set yourself up to succeed and do it. Also, try for some forums (misery loves company), or for some scary stories and a dose of reality. Do whatever it takes. Good luck!
2003-12-09 09:37:51 AM  
Never thought a Fark thread would actually spur me to action. Thanks, UncleScam.

Now the hard part...
2003-12-09 09:40:42 AM  
How about Don't quit because of the date on the calendar; Quit because you want to be able to breath in 10 years.
2003-12-09 09:41:36 AM  

last post look ridiculous... but i refuse to give up my love of typewriter fonts that easily!

i will look into that alan carr book, that sounds like a plan.

also, thanks LoveInAction- i feel like i should put that picture in my wallet, and look at it everytime i crave a smoke.
2003-12-09 09:41:44 AM  
well, looks like there's been quite a few suggestions already but thought I'd spend my 2p's worth on giving you some (hopefully) worthwhile advice.

1/Quit cold turkey. If you have a pack of cig's bin em right now.

2/ go out tonight and get shiat faced, and just flat refuse any offers of cig's, it's dead easy and in the old school way "JUST SAY NO!".

3/ Don't chew gum, you'll just get a clicky jaw and an ulscer.

4/ ignore people who say it's hard to quit.

I used the above method and have been smoke free for 4 years now. I was 14 when I started smoking and I thought I'd miss it but I don't even think about it now. Hope this helps and good luck, may you stink no more :).
2003-12-09 09:42:56 AM  

I quite years ago by not having that first smoke in the morning, a week latter I didnt miss it, so I quite haveing that smoke while I waited for the bus, after a week I didn't miss it then it was that smoke when I got to work........and so on and so forth I literaly quite 1 smoke at a time. After 2 months I went a day whitout a smoke . It was wonderful.
2003-12-09 09:43:28 AM  
Option 1) Smoke and drink like a fiend one night. Get up the next morning and smoke like a fiend again.

Option 2) Get a backbone. You won't quit until you want to quit. You don't really want to quit now, I'll wager. When you really do want to quit, your willpower will kick in, and it will be a cinch.

Option 3) Just forget to smoke.
2003-12-09 09:44:19 AM  
UncleSam, I've tried the patch.... and smoked while wearing the damn thing.

I've tried the gum.... and smoked in between using it. It's not like you chew the gum. You have to chew it to start the chemicals....then pack it away like chewing tabacci.

My Dr. gave me some free supplies of Welbutrin, an anti-depressant thats been proven to curb the smoking cravings.

That worked for a while.... until it came time to buy more, I couldn't.

I too want to quit again and am thinking of giving the Commit throat lozenges a try.

That or make it back to my Dr. and get a prescription for Welbutrin again. Those little pills make you kinda sick when you smell smokes, taste them, even almost looking at the .... it's wierd.... but it works.
2003-12-09 09:46:07 AM  
What an attention whore. Keep smoking that pole.
2003-12-09 09:46:36 AM  
Wouldn't you rather spend the money on your kids? If you spend $1500 per year on smokes, how about putting that into a college fund? Plus you'll be around to enjoy grandkids someday.
2003-12-09 09:48:10 AM  
Incense. Buy lots and lots of incense.

They smell better and they're cool to hold and look at.

And if you're thinking of starting smoking, buy lots of incense. They're way cooler.
2003-12-09 09:49:09 AM  
Quit smoking 4 years ago on 1/1. Here are a couple things that should help.

1. For the first week, all you will think about is smoking. Be prepared for that and use it to your advantage. I kept a pen nearby and wrote down every pro and con I could think of. The paper will be so one sided (cons) you'll keep resisting. Every day the craving lessens, I promise. As most have said though, it will never go away.

2. Don't pick up some other obsession to replace it. The first 10 times I tried to quit I would like work out three times a day, or eat suckers,or chew gum, or whack get the picture. You are trying to stop an addictive behavior, don't go get compulsive on something else.

3. I did this but depending upon your will power you may not want to. I kept 1 smoke in a pack on my dresser. Everytime I walked by it and passed it up it was a source of success. One day at a time is the secret.

Good Luck!
2003-12-09 09:49:16 AM  
Just say to yourself "TODAY I WILL NEVER SMOKE CIGARETTES AGAIN!"; do this everytime you're polishing rockets.

Once the smack kicks in, you won't crave any cigarettes, just that sweet sweet H.
2003-12-09 09:50:17 AM  
I tried using the patch but I had a wicked reaction to it. My skin turned red and blistered up so that when I removed it the whole area started to bleed. Very painful experience. So I went back to smoking, then one day I bought a pack and it was stale so I went and bought another pack from a differrent store an it was stale too. I was so pissed about blowing $12 that I threw them out and haven't smoked since, 2 years and counting. I still could kill for one at times, but I just tell myself that I'll have one in an hour, then the craving is gone before the hour is up.
2003-12-09 09:51:45 AM  
More thoughts:

* Yeah, don't make quitting such an event. It'll just make it harder to say good-bye.

* Quit when you least expect it. That is, don't say, "After this cigarette, I am quitting." Instead say, "I had a cigarette last night. But I don't think I'm going to have one now. In fact, I don't need them at all."

* On a related note, just keep saying "no." If peers pressure you, have a ready comeback. ... "I said 'no.' Perhaps we should stop hanging out."

* And don't beg/ask for cigs. Throw them out and don't buy any more. But don't beg or steal them when you go out. That's low-class. If you can decide not to be a beggar, then your only temptation comes when people offer cigs -- to which you say "no."
2003-12-09 09:52:10 AM  
OK, just wanted to point out some things I didn't see in the first 50 or so comments:

My roommate quit from a pack a day smoker to zero over a year ago and hasn't lapsed.
He quit with hypnotherapy. It works. If you go in believing that it doesn't work, it might not, but trust me, i've seen it work first hand. Not even cigarette one has crossed his lips. Any time he gets a craving (and it's been a while), he takes out the business card of the hypnotist, and he looks at it, and the craving goes away.

I quit about 1.5 years ago (bastille day, 02). I used the patch, and I put it on about 5PM. I didn't notice it messing with my dreams, but then, I always sleep like rock. But, putting it on that late in the day meant I already had nicotine in my system when I woke up, so I could fight that morning cigarette. I smoked a few shortly after I quit, when I was drunk... but I haven't in like a year or so.

It's hard, man. We love you, stick with it.
2003-12-09 09:52:13 AM  
i've been smoking for 13 years now, and have actually stopped smoking once for a period of 1.5 years. how i did it? cold turkey. it's the only way. you MUST WANT TO QUIT. of course, i fell off the wagon when my parents came to visit. the subsequent clashing of heads and a visit to Las Vegas got me to start again... :::sigh::: do it because you WANT TO, and just do it and keep doing it.
2003-12-09 09:52:20 AM  
If you're craving, go to a hookah bar. The smoke f*cks you up and makes you feel like you're drinking, plus there's no nasty, nasty, nasty nicotine. It'll make you forget about it.
2003-12-09 09:53:06 AM  
Amazing coincidence!!!!! Today is the one year anniverisary of my quitting smoking!!!!!

Welbutrin my friend, Welbutrin... Talk to your Doc.... Its amazing,,, plus the prozac like buzz will make you happy and take the edginess off!

Good luck!!!!!
2003-12-09 09:53:16 AM  
Ever cig you smoke is less time with friends and family in the long run.

Oh and if you smoke too much you will end up with an inverted penis, really...
2003-12-09 09:56:53 AM  

I smoked 2pks/day for 12 years.

DO NOT USE THE PATCH!!! The whole purpose for quitting is to cut off the Nicotine addiction! By using the patch, although gradually decreasing the dosage of Nic, you are still getting your fix. Try Weed for a bit, simply for the lung-kicker! That was the hardest thing for me. Oh, smoke some pot, and go for a short run every evening. GL!
2003-12-09 09:57:05 AM  
iLBastardo's fool proof stop smoking method.

1. In the week before you quit, ramp up to the nastiest smokes you can find. I'm not talking menthol's, I'm talking unfiltered camels, or JPS for the canucks out there.

2. Book a flight to disneyland. Finish your pack before getting on the plane.

3.spend as much time as possible in one of the 2 parks, but avoid to 2 tiny areas that allow you to smoke.

4. come home, broke, and realize you can't aford more smokes, because you paid fo the trip.

worked for me. pack a day, haven't smoked ot 4 years.
2003-12-09 09:58:51 AM  
smoke c__k instead
2003-12-09 10:00:30 AM  
"because i'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like the way my breath wreaks of fermented poontang"
2003-12-09 10:00:51 AM  

I wish what you say were true, but for me it ain't. I can work for 12 hours and never even slightly crave a cigarette, but when I get home I need a joint pretty much as soon as I've eaten dinner, and usually before. Now, in my part of the world people mix tobacco with their weed, so maybe that's why I find it so hard, but if that's true, why don't I crave cigs at work?

I'd love to hear from people who've had trouble quiting weed, but have managed it in the end. Not like Lightblub, whose friends seemed to be able to quit remarkably easy. Probably weren't inhaling, dumbasses. Also, the great unspoken truth about weed is that with the introduction of skunk, we've moved the goalposts to such a degree that we're playing a different sport. I got some normal old-skool sensi a couple of weeks ago, and found that i didn't crave it nearly as much. But I was very annoyed I didn't have any skunk. Do you see?

I'm considering a vaporizer because at least then I won't be killing myself. I'd love to hear advice. But High-Horse Puritans can save their words.

PS- EatHam: I've also sent you my keyboard, and my shirt. They are mainly covered in cola, with some snot.
2003-12-09 10:01:25 AM  
Don't buy smokes.
2003-12-09 10:02:51 AM  

You're not gonna like this, but research shows that 98% of people who wait until New Years to stop... FAIL. And why is that? It's because you are not serious. What would you think if I told you, "Hey guess what? I'm going stop this 30 pill a day Oxycontin habit, except I'm going to wait until all the holiday parties are over." If you're truly serious stop immediately! Make the the last cigarette you just smoked the last one you'll ever smoke. It won't be any easier in 2 weeks. Procrastinating will not make you stronger. Take control NOW!!
2003-12-09 10:04:13 AM  
Good luck and congratulations. We're all 100% behind you. The best thing about not smoking is being able to say, honestly, that none of your money goes toward those people. They are evil.
2003-12-09 10:04:18 AM  
I quit last Christmas season when I got the Flu. Quitting when you are sick can help because you really don't want a cig anyway and by the time you get well a lot of the craving is gone.

The bonus was that I stuck the money I was paying for a carton a week into an envelope in my desk. Just last Friday I took it out and bought a new iBook.
2003-12-09 10:04:35 AM  

i have no plans on quitting the green stuff. when i quit (unsuccessfully) before, weed helped me out quite a bit. it lets me smoke without smoking tobacco, and also i found the high much more enjoyable without nicotine to 'bring me down'.

i also found i could take bigger bong hits... always a plus.

thanks again everyone - after reading all this, i'm really looking forward to being a former smoker. thanks for your support. long live fark
2003-12-09 10:04:44 AM  
So, I'm doing something I rarely do, and jumping over a whole bunch of posts to throw mine into the ring:

I love smoking, cigarettes are my friends, most of my friends smoke, I get all of the best information in the smoking area at the office. Cigarettes are great after eating, after sex, and when driving.

I quit a week ago.


This is try 4 or 5 I think. Every time I try to quit smoking, something bad seems to happen:

In 2000, I had quit for about 2 months when I snapped my tibia & fibula . The first thing I did as I laid on the ground watching my ankle swell to the size of a Texas ruby-red grapefruit was grab a friend of mine and force him to fork over a Cowboy Killer. He looked at me and said "I thought you quit?", My eyes threatening to turn him into a piles of smoldering ash convinced him to hand over the Red.

In 2001, I was transfered to Florida by work. Once again, I had quit for about 2 months. Before I left town, I picked up a carton and went through about 3 packs or so in the next 26 hours.

The key, is to be serious about wanting to quit. In the past, I was doing it mostly because I got tired of friends telling me I needed to quit. This time I'm doing it because I'm tired of being winded after walking up 6 flights of stairs, I've noticed my teeth getting rather bad, rather quickly (I have a dentist appointment tomorrow morning), and I'm tired of dropping $100 a month on something that goes up in smoke.

Anyhow, I'm using the patch, which has always worked well for me in the past, though as has been mentioned, it can give you some really weird, vivid dreams.

If you use the patch, always make sure that you have them. One of the big problems in the past, has been when I've run out of them, and go buy a pack of smokes "just to tide me over". That'll ruin it.

Another thing, if you don't smoke full strength cigarettes, then you might want to skip to "Step 2". I smoked Ultralight 100s, and when I slapped on the "Step 1" patch, I was sick and nauseous for a couple of hours. "Step 2" works fine, and I don't collapse onto my desk for an hour or so after I get into the office.

So far, I've slipped a couple of times, mainly in social situations, I'm not going to profess to be a Saint. But I'll take the 10 or so in a week over the 20 a day.

Good luck.

Oh, and despite what someone said, don't become a "reformed smoker". All smokers know that this shiat is bad for us and that we should quit. Some cocksmoker telling us that they quit smoking and we're going to Hell isn't going to help us speed up the process any.

2003-12-09 10:05:04 AM  
I was a 3-4 pack a day smoker for over 30 years. Hard core sumbidge - $100 a week off the top of my check for tobacco.

I quit. I came to the realization that any amount of babying myself trying to make it easy or any amount of rationalisation that I could smoke a little wasn't going to work.

I got up on 9/9/99 and stopped smoking. I grew my balls and stopped smoking. I didnt make a huge deal about it. I knew that if I had even one drag of a cigarette, I wouldnt have quit. If you really want to quit, you will. Period. If you want to quit, you will take on behavior that supports that. If you dont want to quit really, you wont do it and no amount of advice will help.

OK, so it's been over 4 years now. I dont miss it. I don't look back. I gained some weight but nothing I can't handle and I am not obese.

Looking back, the number one thing I am proud of is that I realized that I am no longer committing suicide. I can breathe and I have way more stamina than I ever have.

Quitting is a completely different thing from Trying to quit. Stop trying and do it. Boo-yah.
2003-12-09 10:05:04 AM  
I am actually in the process of quitting right now (4th serious attempt). The only difference to my other attempts is that no instead of going cold turkey I enlisted the help of Nicoderm CQ. These things really work (i'm still on step one). It's been four weeks so far and only have had one craving. Don't get me wrong I think about cigarrettes every once in a while...

Another thing that helped is that, at least for the first couple of weeks, I tried not to go out to places I knew there was going to be a lot of people smoking (eg. bars, etc...)

Also, make sure you really want to quit. we just had a baby girl and that is my motivation. If you don't really want to quit, don't even bother. The drive will not be there and it will be easy to go back to smoking (speaking from experience).

By the way, I used to smoke a pack a day...

Anyways, good luck...
2003-12-09 10:06:13 AM  
This has been talked about before, but is worth repeating:

Here is the sure fire method to quit. Die by having a heart attack. My Dad quit this way. Let me explain:

My Dad was a city cop and police chief for 25 years. He smoked for over 30 years, since he was about 15. At the age of 55, he had a severe heart attack, which the doctors could find no other cause for besides the effects of smoking. He was in perfect health otherwise, physically, mentally, etc. We have no history of heart disease in my family on his side. The bottom lower part of his heart just died, and there was damage they believe was 99.9% smoking related. He went into cardiac arrest for over 45 minutes, during which time he was resusitated 3 times, and was shocked with the defibrillator 4 times. He lived, barely. He spent two weeks in ICU and another in the hospital. He now takes medication for blood pressure, arrtyhmia, sodium intake, and has a pacemaker/defibrillator implanted in his chest.

Were he not a smoker, he would more than likely be in perfect health to this day. His doctor has confirmed this on several occasions, and he is not a quack, he is a well respected physicain, and I live in a small town where reputation and ability are truly key. My Dad quit the day he died. He was told that it was either quit smoking, or not live to see his son graduate from college and his grandchildren grow up. He chose the former option. So did my Mother, who was in a sense "scared straight."

There you have it.
2003-12-09 10:07:02 AM  
I quit smoking 12/5/03. Yeah, that's last thursday. Don't quit before a weekend of hard drinking but rather afterwards. It's been 4 and a half days since I quit. The first 48-72 hours are the hardest IMHO.
2003-12-09 10:08:13 AM  
...and by the way, you loudmouth anti-smoking types still suck donkey balls. I'd light one up after a year just to blow it in your faces.
2003-12-09 10:08:20 AM  
I asked my doctor if he had any tips on how to give up. He sure did!
He said, as if he was irritated, "Just stop".

At the time I thought, yeah, thanks doc, another patient successfully cured. But when I did finally give up, that's exactly how I did it. I don't even remember my last cigarette. What I do remember is waking up one morning with the stone cold, pure conviction that if I did not give up smoking I was going to die and that death would be painful and could begin any day now.

(Oh, and have your first beer "sans cigarettes" with a close friend who will not allow you to cave!)
2003-12-09 10:09:34 AM  
If you have friends who smoke, stop hanging around them for awhile - just to get you out of the habit of lighting up when your friend does.

I tried to quit smoking a year ago, and have managed to not smoke all week long, but when we get together for Poker Night on Saturdays, I smoke a whole pack in one night. But then I'm good all week. If I skipped poker for a week or two, I think I could finally kick it, but that's not something I'm prepared to do.
2003-12-09 10:10:04 AM  
I've been smoke free for a little over a year now. I started out with the patch, used it for around a week, ripped it off and just bit the bullet. (The patch gave me all sorts of weird dreams.)

Anyway, it's all about the willpower. You *can* do it, but you're really got to want to.

Nothing you haven't heard before, I'm guessing.

Of course, I replaced smoking with another addiction -- the torturing of flightless birds. Now, that's REALLY hard to stop.

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