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(Slate)   Well, voter ID didn't work. Banning early and extended voting didn't work. I guess we'll just have to make those pesky urban votes worth less than Real American votes are   (slate.com) divider line 59
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2012-12-12 06:31:18 PM
4 votes:

MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?


Um, republicans are not the standard bearers of whiteness.

Also, have fun in Somalia. America will be fine without you.
2012-12-12 03:22:36 PM
4 votes:
According to Stanley Kurtz, the author of Radical-in-Chief and Spreading the Wealth, Obama is using the powers of the federal government to pull people and money out of the suburbs and into the cities. "Although it remains almost totally unknown to the public," writes Kurtz in the second book, "a great deal of Obama's early political career was devoted to the goal of abolishing America's suburbs, a project he undertook in close collaboration with his Alinskyite organizing mentors."


Of course it remains almost totally unknown to the public -- YOU JUST MADE IT UP.
2012-12-12 07:51:48 PM
3 votes:
The GOP hates cities not because cities attract liberals, but because they make people more liberal.

Something about having to face your fellow human beings on a daily and regular basis, having a shared stake in the outcome of government, and not being able to pretend you are a goddamn island.
2012-12-12 06:22:53 PM
3 votes:
WE GET IT.

HE'S BLACK.
2012-12-12 06:14:04 PM
3 votes:
GOP strategist 1: We keep losing elections and the population is getting more and more liberal. Should we maybe think of some new ideas to appeal to more people so that we can remain relevant?

GOP strategist 2: Nah, let's undermine Democracy and try to rig things so that we can milk a few more elections without having to adapt.

Average American: I am so farked.
2012-12-12 05:40:57 PM
3 votes:
So the party of personal responsibility, the party who rails against political correctness, the party of "you don't get a trophy just for participating" is saying that they want to change the rules of the game because their team lost and some people got their feelings hurt because people disagreed with them?
2012-12-12 05:06:21 PM
3 votes:
The self proclaimed "greatest democracy that ever freedomed" is having a public discussion about the fact they can't run an election without fraud.
2012-12-12 03:29:35 PM
3 votes:
It's no secret that the GOP hates democracy. It's because they suck at it so badly.
2012-12-13 07:21:58 AM
2 votes:

I sound fat: DjangoStonereaver: WE GET IT.

HE'S BLACK.

um... are you in the right thread? what does this have to do with anything?

or are you just so used to posting this in every thread.


/ WE GET IT

// YOU DONT UNDERSTAND WHEN TO USE YOUR STOLEN CATCHPHRASE


Um...the reason why this is being proposed is to disenfrancise VA voters who voted for Obama. Hence, "we get it, he's black".
2012-12-12 09:18:20 PM
2 votes:

cchris_39: Maybe the whole country can be as successful as the blue state metro areas.


Yeah, all the places where people are and there are things to do, suck. Paradise is a chain restaurant and driving for an hour to WalMart.
2012-12-12 07:58:51 PM
2 votes:

Mrbogey: Satanic_Hamster: phaseolus: Of course it remains almost totally unknown to the public -- YOU JUST MADE IT UP.

GOP is proposing this in several states. Oddly, only in the "swing" states from this last election.

Mrbogey: This idea was championed by Democrats when Republicans were kicking their teeth in.

Don't you ever feel bad about lying/trolling?

I dont feel bad because I haven't lied. Sorry princess if the truth hurts your butt.


Yep, those pre 1892 Democrats and their crazy ideas.
2012-12-12 07:30:15 PM
2 votes:
I have in the past considered this same idea he proposes as a way of bringing the Electoral College back towards its intended purpose of balancing the peoples' interests with the states' interests.

But as long as districting is done by partisan schemers playing gerrymandering games with citizen's rights, it will never ever be more fair than the current system.
2012-12-12 06:47:20 PM
2 votes:

El_Perro: On Monday, as Sen. Carrico was talking up his bill, the Pew Research Center brought together a group of secretaries of state and campaign strategists. The topic: Whether the voting snafus of 2012 could be fixed. Democrats were interested. Republicans wanted to slow down and really think about this. Did urbanites have a harder time voting? Yes. Did that hurt Democrats? Well, sure.

"I don't hold out any hope that there's going to be a bipartisan agreement," said Scott Tranter, who'd consulted for the Romney campaign. "At the end of the day, we're all campaign officials, and we want to do whatever we can to help our side. Sometimes that's voter ID. Sometimes that's longer lines. Whatever it may be."

Isn't partisan control of elections great?


We're the only advanced nation that does that.

We sorely need to make some changes in the way we handle elections. There should be a national standard for federal elections, for instance.

Recommended reading on the subject:

media.oregonlive.com
2012-12-12 06:43:37 PM
2 votes:
MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?



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Excuse me Titsy, but I am white and happen to be far less frightened by the fact that minorities have a say in this democracy than I am by the rhetoric coming from the Tea Party, which just happens to be all white. They talk about seccession. The last group of white supremacists who tried to secede got their shoeless asses stomped into the ground because they were too stupid to realize that you don't go to war with and industrializing neighbor while you have only 16 linear miles of railroad track laid.

Lazy hillbillies didn't have a mass exodus when we took their farm equipment away from them, they won't leave now, unfortunately. Where would you go? Everything NOT you apparently scares the bejeesus out of you. You're already right where you belong, in the world that you built: living in shiat stained red-states that take more from the Fed than they contribute, surrounded by trailers, meth addicts and Romney stickers. I guess if you're still flying the Confederate flag of the illiterate lazy assed loser, a Romney sticker does still make sense.
2012-12-12 06:33:05 PM
2 votes:

MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?


Man, what is going on today? You're the third person with whom I've had to bipass "derpy green" straight to "stormfront red".
2012-12-12 06:31:34 PM
2 votes:

BuckTurgidson: we'll just have to make those pesky urban votes worth less than Real American votes are

They already are.


Now that we have computers and don't have to worry about actually finding seats for everybody in the same room, can we please get on with repealing Public Law 62-5 and allow more Representatives? It's pretty insulting that a handful of people in WY end up with and order-of-magnitude more representation than all of us in CA.

/bad enough we (and similar urban states) have to pay so much welfare to the fly-over states; their votes counting more is insane
2012-12-12 06:09:58 PM
2 votes:

phaseolus: Of course it remains almost totally unknown to the public -- YOU JUST MADE IT UP.


GOP is proposing this in several states. Oddly, only in the "swing" states from this last election.

Mrbogey: This idea was championed by Democrats when Republicans were kicking their teeth in.


Don't you ever feel bad about lying/trolling?
2012-12-12 06:05:20 PM
2 votes:
The people that want to make voting more difficult in a society that votes for its leaders in some manner, hates the society they are in.

People that hate the society they are in have no business representing it.

People who keep voting for people who have no business representing society are idiots.
2012-12-12 05:02:18 PM
2 votes:
If the GOP put half as much effort into serving the public as they do trying to screw voters we may just be able to get shiat done in this country. But I guess that's too much to ask for.
2012-12-12 04:55:41 PM
2 votes:
The GOP is going to be so butthurt if Democrats control the majority of states come redistricting time.
2012-12-12 04:53:36 PM
2 votes:
The OH Sec of State is trying this bullshiat as well.

Deer season is over now. I was so sorry to hear he hadn't accidentally been shot. Several times. Over and over again.
2012-12-12 04:23:11 PM
2 votes:

hillbillypharmacist: Here's how State Senator Charles Carrico explains it.

People in my district - they feel discouraged by coming out because their votes don't mean anything if they're outvoted in metropolitan districts. It can go either way - it doesn't necessarily mean that one political party is going to be favored over another.

Oh, you feel discouraged! Your vote doesn't mean anything if more people disagree with you than agree! Oh, let us hold this poor dear's hand and make sure that his vote means something! Which means necessarily simply asking him who he wants to be elected and the majority be damned!


Again, I think these people in power believe themselves to be superior to their constituents. They think they know best and their voters should be happy with that. They want less participation from these people, but not so little they can't continue to win elections. Rural voters are being had, sadly.
2012-12-12 04:15:44 PM
2 votes:
Ah yes, the Gentry. They are better than the rest of us.

Carrico's solution: Make the rural vote matter more and make the metro vote count less. His bill, SB273, would assign 11 of Virginia's electoral votes to its 11 congressional districts. The state's two remaining votes would go to whoever received the "highest number of votes in a majority of congressional districts."

So ... tie electoral votes to Congressional Districts. That were gerrymandered. To produce a GOP majority in the House of Representatives.
2012-12-13 08:26:31 AM
1 votes:
You know I try to remain objective. I have voted for Republicans in the past. I am currently registered `unaffiliated', and I like to think that both sides are bad, and to some extent they are. But when you have one party whose `strategy' is to prevent a certain demographic from voting, it's a pretty disgusting paradigm.
2012-12-13 07:56:25 AM
1 votes:
It's funny how, not even ten years ago, the Dems were proposing plans very like this one in response to the 2000 election (and, for that matter, the Republicans were opposing those plans at every turn). The more things change, the more they stay the same.
2012-12-13 12:25:30 AM
1 votes:

Mrbogey: Don't believe that link? Have another. Link


That one was about basing the presidential election on the popular vote instead of the Electoral College. (which I would be fine with). That's not at all what the Slate TFA is about.
2012-12-12 11:38:43 PM
1 votes:
Then there was the educated Texan from Texas who
looked like someone in Technicolor and felt,patriotically, that people of means - decent folk -
should be given more votes than drifters, whores, criminals, degenerates, atheists and indecent folk
- people without means.

Yossarian was unspringing rhythms in the letters the day they brought the Texan in. It was another
quiet, hot, untroubled day. The heat pressed heavily on the roof, stifling sound. Dunbar was lying
motionless on his back again with his eyes staring up at the ceiling like a doll's. He was working
hard at increasing his life span. He did it by cultivating boredom. Dunbar was working so hard at
increasing his life span that Yossarian thought he was dead. They put the Texan in a bed in the
middle of the ward, and it wasn't long before he donated his views.

Dunbar sat up like a shot. 'That's it,' he cried excitedly. 'There was something missing - all the time
I knew there was something missing - and now I know what it is.' He banged his fist down into his
palm. 'No patriotism,' he declared.

'You're right,' Yossarian shouted back. 'You're right, you're right, you're right. The hot dog, the
Brooklyn Dodgers. Mom's apple pie. That's what everyone's fighting for. But who's fighting for the
decent folk? Who's fighting for more votes for the decent folk? There's no patriotism, that's what it
is. And no matriotism, either.'

/they should give him two votes
2012-12-12 10:56:38 PM
1 votes:
Breaking up a state's electoral votes is actually a laudable goal, unlike shortening lines and voter ID laws, which exist only to disenfranchise. Why should a state's entire slate of EC votes go to one candidate when he or she only got slightly more than half the votes?

The problem is, all the states need to do it at once.
Or better yet, we abolish the stupid anachronistic EC altogether.
2012-12-12 10:06:06 PM
1 votes:
What the hell? Did a halfway house lose its funding or something?

/Oh, wait. Finals are over
2012-12-12 09:22:44 PM
1 votes:

rumpelstiltskin: If we're going to make hillbillies count more, what do I have to do to get myself one of these super-votes? Lose a few teeth, learn to play the banjo, and fark my sister?


If we're going to make blacks count more, what do I have to do to get myself one of these super-votes? Drop out of school, violently rob elderly people, and kill a baby with stray bullets?

Is turning about for fair play hate speech? Let's find out.
2012-12-12 09:15:48 PM
1 votes:

Mrbogey: Now, I just spent time doing research which will no doubt be ignored.


Oh, no...by singling out a couple of pissed-off Nebraskans, you've totally proved your point.

Mrbogey: Lionel Mandrake: Still waitin' on that citation, Mrbullshiat

I'm not your manservant you pompous self-important prima donna. I'm not paid to steer online opinion (not accusing anyone here.. of course) so I'll respond to you when I get around to it. I have things I'd rather do than prove an argument to people who promptly ignore it and never amend their views.


Does this butthurt rant count as responding to me, or am I still waiting for you to get around to it
2012-12-12 09:11:29 PM
1 votes:

jjorsett: California politicians were talking about a system like this. Of course, in this state it would have benefited Democrats.


How?

The Democrats already receive ALL of California's electoral votes every four years, and will for the foreseeable future.

How would dividing up those electoral votes in any way possible benefit them?
2012-12-12 08:24:49 PM
1 votes:
This story is about the USA, right, not some banana republic or post-Soviet state teetering on the edge of dictatorship?

Just checking.
2012-12-12 08:20:51 PM
1 votes:

AliceBToklasLives: badLogic: I know what we can do! Count urban voters as 3/5ths of a person, like the Founding Fathers intended.

What about folks who are 1/2 urban? I was told there would be no farking math!

/fraction, how the fark do they work?


According to math, you'd count as 7/10 of a person if you're 1/2 urban.

According to the Supreme Court, it only takes one drop of urban blood to make you count as fully urban. (Plessy v. Ferguson)

/sorry
2012-12-12 07:58:11 PM
1 votes:

jjorsett: California politicians were talking about a system like this. Of course, in this state it would have benefited Democrats.


How would going from a guaranteed 55 EVs for Dems to a proportional EV allotment benefit Dems?
2012-12-12 07:56:01 PM
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: Insatiable Jesus: udhq: MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?

Man, what is going on today? You're the third person with whom I've had to bipass "derpy green" straight to "stormfront red".



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I thought it was just me. I've seen four or so today that I've never seen before. Out of nowhere they are all over a bunch of different threads herping the derp. Probably some new division of NewsCorp.

They were trolling the Portland Mall shooting thread yesterday with their "Fark has an anti-white bias" BS.


Also, who cares? It's a news aggregate site. If you want something that will reinforce your opinions, go to WND.
2012-12-12 07:19:28 PM
1 votes:

James!: If you can't win, change the rules.


Pretty much this. Running the elections needs to be taken out of the hands of politicians and be kept as close to 100% neutral as possible.
2012-12-12 06:52:37 PM
1 votes:

naughtyrev: Why doesn't he just come out and say that he wants to count urban people as 3/5s of a person?


Why so negative? Don't think of it as giving urban voters three fifths of a vote -- think of it as giving rural voters five thirds of one. It's like giving out extra votes! We should thank him for being so generous.
2012-12-12 06:49:30 PM
1 votes:

Insatiable Jesus: udhq: MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?

Man, what is going on today? You're the third person with whom I've had to bipass "derpy green" straight to "stormfront red".



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I thought it was just me. I've seen four or so today that I've never seen before. Out of nowhere they are all over a bunch of different threads herping the derp. Probably some new division of NewsCorp.


They were trolling the Portland Mall shooting thread yesterday with their "Fark has an anti-white bias" BS.
2012-12-12 06:42:42 PM
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: Obama is using the powers of the federal government to pull people and money out of the suburbs and into the cities. "Although it remains almost totally unknown to the public,"

This is already happening. They're building a Wal-Mart not far from my house. Wake up, sheeple!


What these GOP idiots don't even understand (always being about 30 years behind in their mental stereotypes), is that the Blahs are moving out of the cities and into the suburbs. Hell, Washington, DC is almost no longer Chocolate City, since lots of young whites and Asians and Latinos are moving into Southwest DC,and the Blahs have been moving to PG County in Maryland for the last 30 years.

/So, GOP: suburbs are now "bad", urbans are now "good".
//well, not as 'good' as those dependably old white semi-rurals, but what the hell...
2012-12-12 06:41:35 PM
1 votes:

MJMaloney187: Mrtraveler01: MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?

How can I be anti-white? I'm white.

Oh, then you're a disingenuous white liberal.


How am I disingenuous? 

Because I don't think rural voters are entitled to special treatment?
2012-12-12 06:29:33 PM
1 votes:

MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?


Could you please hurry up and leave? The rest of us would like to continue progressing and not become pariahs on the world stage.
2012-12-12 06:27:09 PM
1 votes:

MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?


How can I be anti-white? I'm white.
2012-12-12 06:26:53 PM
1 votes:

MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?


awww
where you goin'?
2012-12-12 06:24:54 PM
1 votes:

ecl: Missouri Republicans have been championing the rural vote is worth more than urban for awhile. We have been racing for the bottom for a longggggg time.


And it shows.

It still continues to amaze me how much power the rural areas of MO have on a state level compared to the urban areas of St. Louis and KC.
2012-12-12 06:21:38 PM
1 votes:
The simple solution? Contact your state legislators and urge them to pass a bill that will award your state's EC votes to the winner of the national popular vote, effective only once states representing a majority of EC votes have pledged to do so as well.

Whiz, Bang, you got a national popular vote without having to get anything through our broken federal legislature.
2012-12-12 06:18:44 PM
1 votes:
I know what we can do! Count urban voters as 3/5ths of a person, like the Founding Fathers intended.
2012-12-12 06:15:22 PM
1 votes:

Mrbogey: This idea was championed by Democrats when Republicans were kicking their teeth in.


When? Citation, or you're lying.
2012-12-12 06:09:08 PM
1 votes:

zappaisfrank: If you can't win on your own merits, cheat.

That's pretty much it, right, GOPers?

Oh wait..you idiots still think Obama won because of voter fraud, so there's absolutely no use trying to talk to your derp ridden pasty white asses.


Well most of them feel the only reason Clinton won was Perot and that economic boom of the 90's was just Reaganomics taking hold. So dealing in reality isn't there strong suit to begin with
2012-12-12 06:04:24 PM
1 votes:

DjangoStonereaver: The GOP is 1 for 1 in judicial coup d'etats, so you can't blame them.


Coincidentally, that happened 12 years ago today.
2012-12-12 04:18:10 PM
1 votes:
Here's how State Senator Charles Carrico explains it.

People in my district - they feel discouraged by coming out because their votes don't mean anything if they're outvoted in metropolitan districts. It can go either way - it doesn't necessarily mean that one political party is going to be favored over another.

Oh, you feel discouraged! Your vote doesn't mean anything if more people disagree with you than agree! Oh, let us hold this poor dear's hand and make sure that his vote means something! Which means necessarily simply asking him who he wants to be elected and the majority be damned!
2012-12-12 04:09:44 PM
1 votes:

vpb: The GOP seems to almost be trying to pull off a coup. A judicial coup, but same thing really.


DjangoStonereaver: The GOP is 1 for 1 in judicial coup d'etats, so you can't blame them.


ahem, 1 for 2. they impeached clinton but he was acquitted by the senate.
2012-12-12 04:00:24 PM
1 votes:
Why doesn't he just come out and say that he wants to count urban people as 3/5s of a person?
2012-12-12 03:59:00 PM
1 votes:

gilgigamesh: BSABSVR: Obama's desire to abort every child and make every old person into a filling gruel is also almost totally unknown to the public.

Just like that Kenyan bastard to fill us full of stringy old people instead of fresh, sweet, tender aborted babyflesh.


The old people gruel is free, but they sell the baby flesh to give people something to strive for.
2012-12-12 03:56:15 PM
1 votes:

BSABSVR: Obama's desire to abort every child and make every old person into a filling gruel is also almost totally unknown to the public.


Just like that Kenyan bastard to fill us full of stringy old people instead of fresh, sweet, tender aborted babyflesh.
2012-12-12 03:51:49 PM
1 votes:
Obama's desire to abort every child and make every old person into a filling gruel is also almost totally unknown to the public.
2012-12-12 03:50:33 PM
1 votes:
This guy may be onto something. But how much less, is the question. If I may, I propose that we make "urban" votes worth 3/5 of a "Real AmericanTM" vote. What do y'all think?
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-12 03:40:20 PM
1 votes:
The GOP seems to almost be trying to pull off a coup. A judicial coup, but same thing really.

I know people who wish some general would seize power and get rid of Obama. I am wondering how rare those people are now.
2012-12-12 03:30:34 PM
1 votes:
If you can't win, change the rules.
 
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