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(Slate)   Well, voter ID didn't work. Banning early and extended voting didn't work. I guess we'll just have to make those pesky urban votes worth less than Real American votes are   (slate.com) divider line 143
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ecl
2012-12-12 06:21:35 PM  
Missouri Republicans have been championing the rural vote is worth more than urban for awhile. We have been racing for the bottom for a longggggg time.
 
2012-12-12 06:21:38 PM  
The simple solution? Contact your state legislators and urge them to pass a bill that will award your state's EC votes to the winner of the national popular vote, effective only once states representing a majority of EC votes have pledged to do so as well.

Whiz, Bang, you got a national popular vote without having to get anything through our broken federal legislature.
 
2012-12-12 06:22:53 PM  
WE GET IT.

HE'S BLACK.
 
2012-12-12 06:22:55 PM  

Ambivalence: If the GOP put half as much effort into serving the public as they do trying to screw voters we may just be able to get shiat done in this country. But I guess that's too much to ask for.


Fecking this!
 
2012-12-12 06:23:48 PM  
If you didn't see this coming, you're an idiot.
 
2012-12-12 06:24:46 PM  

badLogic: I know what we can do! Count urban voters as 3/5ths of a person, like the Founding Fathers intended.


What about folks who are 1/2 urban? I was told there would be no farking math!

/fraction, how the fark do they work?
 
2012-12-12 06:24:54 PM  

ecl: Missouri Republicans have been championing the rural vote is worth more than urban for awhile. We have been racing for the bottom for a longggggg time.


And it shows.

It still continues to amaze me how much power the rural areas of MO have on a state level compared to the urban areas of St. Louis and KC.
 
2012-12-12 06:25:59 PM  
You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?
 
2012-12-12 06:26:53 PM  

MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?


awww
where you goin'?
 
2012-12-12 06:27:08 PM  
One more thing, government 'represents' the people. More people = more say in government. You can't proportionally award a handicap based on less of a population density.
 
2012-12-12 06:27:09 PM  

MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?


How can I be anti-white? I'm white.
 
2012-12-12 06:27:56 PM  
has anyone worked out what a metropolitian voter's vote would be effectively worth compared to the rest of the state, based on population ratios.

Would it be approximately 3/5ths?
 
2012-12-12 06:29:33 PM  

MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?


Could you please hurry up and leave? The rest of us would like to continue progressing and not become pariahs on the world stage.
 
2012-12-12 06:29:51 PM  

Mrtraveler01: MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?

How can I be anti-white? I'm white.


Oh, then you're a disingenuous white liberal.
 
2012-12-12 06:30:59 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: badLogic: I know what we can do! Count urban voters as 3/5ths of a person, like the Founding Fathers intended.

What about folks who are 1/2 urban? I was told there would be no farking math!

/fraction, how the fark do they work?


I think they would invoke the one-drop rule here.
 
2012-12-12 06:31:18 PM  

MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?


Um, republicans are not the standard bearers of whiteness.

Also, have fun in Somalia. America will be fine without you.
 
2012-12-12 06:31:34 PM  

BuckTurgidson: we'll just have to make those pesky urban votes worth less than Real American votes are

They already are.


Now that we have computers and don't have to worry about actually finding seats for everybody in the same room, can we please get on with repealing Public Law 62-5 and allow more Representatives? It's pretty insulting that a handful of people in WY end up with and order-of-magnitude more representation than all of us in CA.

/bad enough we (and similar urban states) have to pay so much welfare to the fly-over states; their votes counting more is insane
 
2012-12-12 06:32:01 PM  
Republicans seeking to take the vote from blacks? I am shocked.

Second, thanks for linking to a site featuring pictures of naked girls and women sitting in a tub on the side. You could get someone fired for that.
 
2012-12-12 06:33:05 PM  

MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?


Man, what is going on today? You're the third person with whom I've had to bipass "derpy green" straight to "stormfront red".
 
2012-12-12 06:36:39 PM  

MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?


8/10
 
2012-12-12 06:38:10 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: This guy may be onto something. But how much less, is the question. If I may, I propose that we make "urban" votes worth 3/5 of a "Real AmericanTM" vote. What do y'all think?


Vlad_the_Inaner: has anyone worked out what a metropolitian voter's vote would be effectively worth compared to the rest of the state, based on population ratios.

Would it be approximately 3/5ths?


naughtyrev: Why doesn't he just come out and say that he wants to count urban people as 3/5s of a person?


DjangoStonereaver: /Came here to make the 3/5ths joke, glad to see someone beat me to it.


Empty Matchbook: naughtyrev: Why doesn't he just come out and say that he wants to count urban people as 3/5s of a person?

We've got four years, give 'em time.


AliceBToklasLives: What about folks who are 1/2 urban? I was told there would be no farking math!

/fraction, how the fark do they work?


Vlad_the_Inaner: has anyone worked out what a metropolitian voter's vote would be effectively worth compared to the rest of the state, based on population ratios.

Would it be approximately 3/5ths?


For future reference, try this: ⅗.
 
2012-12-12 06:41:35 PM  

MJMaloney187: Mrtraveler01: MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?

How can I be anti-white? I'm white.

Oh, then you're a disingenuous white liberal.


How am I disingenuous? 

Because I don't think rural voters are entitled to special treatment?
 
2012-12-12 06:42:42 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Obama is using the powers of the federal government to pull people and money out of the suburbs and into the cities. "Although it remains almost totally unknown to the public,"

This is already happening. They're building a Wal-Mart not far from my house. Wake up, sheeple!


What these GOP idiots don't even understand (always being about 30 years behind in their mental stereotypes), is that the Blahs are moving out of the cities and into the suburbs. Hell, Washington, DC is almost no longer Chocolate City, since lots of young whites and Asians and Latinos are moving into Southwest DC,and the Blahs have been moving to PG County in Maryland for the last 30 years.

/So, GOP: suburbs are now "bad", urbans are now "good".
//well, not as 'good' as those dependably old white semi-rurals, but what the hell...
 
2012-12-12 06:43:37 PM  
MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?



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Excuse me Titsy, but I am white and happen to be far less frightened by the fact that minorities have a say in this democracy than I am by the rhetoric coming from the Tea Party, which just happens to be all white. They talk about seccession. The last group of white supremacists who tried to secede got their shoeless asses stomped into the ground because they were too stupid to realize that you don't go to war with and industrializing neighbor while you have only 16 linear miles of railroad track laid.

Lazy hillbillies didn't have a mass exodus when we took their farm equipment away from them, they won't leave now, unfortunately. Where would you go? Everything NOT you apparently scares the bejeesus out of you. You're already right where you belong, in the world that you built: living in shiat stained red-states that take more from the Fed than they contribute, surrounded by trailers, meth addicts and Romney stickers. I guess if you're still flying the Confederate flag of the illiterate lazy assed loser, a Romney sticker does still make sense.
 
2012-12-12 06:47:03 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: This guy may be onto something. But how much less, is the question. If I may, I propose that we make "urban" votes worth 3/5 of a "Real AmericanTM" vote. What do y'all think?


That seems sensible and culturally acceptable. Who could possibly have a problem with that?
 
2012-12-12 06:47:20 PM  

El_Perro: On Monday, as Sen. Carrico was talking up his bill, the Pew Research Center brought together a group of secretaries of state and campaign strategists. The topic: Whether the voting snafus of 2012 could be fixed. Democrats were interested. Republicans wanted to slow down and really think about this. Did urbanites have a harder time voting? Yes. Did that hurt Democrats? Well, sure.

"I don't hold out any hope that there's going to be a bipartisan agreement," said Scott Tranter, who'd consulted for the Romney campaign. "At the end of the day, we're all campaign officials, and we want to do whatever we can to help our side. Sometimes that's voter ID. Sometimes that's longer lines. Whatever it may be."

Isn't partisan control of elections great?


We're the only advanced nation that does that.

We sorely need to make some changes in the way we handle elections. There should be a national standard for federal elections, for instance.

Recommended reading on the subject:

media.oregonlive.com
 
2012-12-12 06:48:00 PM  
udhq: MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?

Man, what is going on today? You're the third person with whom I've had to bipass "derpy green" straight to "stormfront red".



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I thought it was just me. I've seen four or so today that I've never seen before. Out of nowhere they are all over a bunch of different threads herping the derp. Probably some new division of NewsCorp.
 
2012-12-12 06:49:30 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: udhq: MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?

Man, what is going on today? You're the third person with whom I've had to bipass "derpy green" straight to "stormfront red".



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I thought it was just me. I've seen four or so today that I've never seen before. Out of nowhere they are all over a bunch of different threads herping the derp. Probably some new division of NewsCorp.


They were trolling the Portland Mall shooting thread yesterday with their "Fark has an anti-white bias" BS.
 
2012-12-12 06:52:17 PM  

spiderpaz: Mrbogey: This idea was championed by Democrats when Republicans were kicking their teeth in.

When? Citation, or you're lying.


Still waitin' on that citation, Mrbullshiat

I do remember people trying to get a proportional thing going in CA. It was Republicans, of course and it went nowhere.

I do remember the general sentiment among voters was pro-proportional if and when it is enacted by all states simultaneously, but the Republicans aren't interested in that idea.
 
2012-12-12 06:52:37 PM  

naughtyrev: Why doesn't he just come out and say that he wants to count urban people as 3/5s of a person?


Why so negative? Don't think of it as giving urban voters three fifths of a vote -- think of it as giving rural voters five thirds of one. It's like giving out extra votes! We should thank him for being so generous.
 
2012-12-12 06:53:14 PM  
If I ever meet these people in person, they will not survive the day.
 
2012-12-12 07:15:03 PM  
You cant expect Retatotards to compete on a level playing field, with stationary goal posts.

Really, why should they start now?
 
2012-12-12 07:19:28 PM  

James!: If you can't win, change the rules.


Pretty much this. Running the elections needs to be taken out of the hands of politicians and be kept as close to 100% neutral as possible.
 
2012-12-12 07:30:15 PM  
I have in the past considered this same idea he proposes as a way of bringing the Electoral College back towards its intended purpose of balancing the peoples' interests with the states' interests.

But as long as districting is done by partisan schemers playing gerrymandering games with citizen's rights, it will never ever be more fair than the current system.
 
2012-12-12 07:39:43 PM  
Is it really so hard to promise something and do the opposite? The Democrats have been at it for decades.
 
2012-12-12 07:47:21 PM  
Maybe the whole country can be as successful as the blue state metro areas.
 
2012-12-12 07:51:48 PM  
The GOP hates cities not because cities attract liberals, but because they make people more liberal.

Something about having to face your fellow human beings on a daily and regular basis, having a shared stake in the outcome of government, and not being able to pretend you are a goddamn island.
 
2012-12-12 07:54:21 PM  
California politicians were talking about a system like this. Of course, in this state it would have benefited Democrats.
 
2012-12-12 07:56:01 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Insatiable Jesus: udhq: MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?

Man, what is going on today? You're the third person with whom I've had to bipass "derpy green" straight to "stormfront red".



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I thought it was just me. I've seen four or so today that I've never seen before. Out of nowhere they are all over a bunch of different threads herping the derp. Probably some new division of NewsCorp.

They were trolling the Portland Mall shooting thread yesterday with their "Fark has an anti-white bias" BS.


Also, who cares? It's a news aggregate site. If you want something that will reinforce your opinions, go to WND.
 
2012-12-12 07:58:11 PM  

jjorsett: California politicians were talking about a system like this. Of course, in this state it would have benefited Democrats.


How would going from a guaranteed 55 EVs for Dems to a proportional EV allotment benefit Dems?
 
2012-12-12 07:58:51 PM  

Mrbogey: Satanic_Hamster: phaseolus: Of course it remains almost totally unknown to the public -- YOU JUST MADE IT UP.

GOP is proposing this in several states. Oddly, only in the "swing" states from this last election.

Mrbogey: This idea was championed by Democrats when Republicans were kicking their teeth in.

Don't you ever feel bad about lying/trolling?

I dont feel bad because I haven't lied. Sorry princess if the truth hurts your butt.


Yep, those pre 1892 Democrats and their crazy ideas.
 
2012-12-12 07:58:56 PM  

lockers: Holocaust Agnostic: Sock Ruh Tease:
People that hate the society they are in have no business representing it.

This one definitely makes no sense,

No kidding. How is one supposed to change a society they hate without representing the segment that agrees with them?


Republicans, a group of people who seem to hate government, until they work in it.
 
2012-12-12 08:13:50 PM  

poot_rootbeer: I have in the past considered this same idea he proposes as a way of bringing the Electoral College back towards its intended purpose of balancing the peoples' interests with the states' interests.

But as long as districting is done by partisan schemers playing gerrymandering games with citizen's rights, it will never ever be more fair than the current system.


The problem in that is that there will always be gerrymandering, as long as it can be justified politically or demographically. Though it's completely a valid point. There are places where rural residents just flat out will never feel represented, because they're usually 180 degrees different than their state's urban populations. It's not exactly an easy thing to fix, either.
 
2012-12-12 08:20:51 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: badLogic: I know what we can do! Count urban voters as 3/5ths of a person, like the Founding Fathers intended.

What about folks who are 1/2 urban? I was told there would be no farking math!

/fraction, how the fark do they work?


According to math, you'd count as 7/10 of a person if you're 1/2 urban.

According to the Supreme Court, it only takes one drop of urban blood to make you count as fully urban. (Plessy v. Ferguson)

/sorry
 
2012-12-12 08:24:49 PM  
This story is about the USA, right, not some banana republic or post-Soviet state teetering on the edge of dictatorship?

Just checking.
 
Ant
2012-12-12 08:30:36 PM  

MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?


Get the fark out. Who's stopping you?
 
2012-12-12 08:40:52 PM  

James!: furrious


Furrious?

I like this word. I want to use it.
 
2012-12-12 08:42:39 PM  

MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?


That's nice Mr. Manson, now back to your cell.
 
2012-12-12 08:54:20 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Still waitin' on that citation, Mrbullshiat


I'm not your manservant you pompous self-important prima donna. I'm not paid to steer online opinion (not accusing anyone here.. of course) so I'll respond to you when I get around to it. I have things I'd rather do than prove an argument to people who promptly ignore it and never amend their views.

A primer- Link
Well since it's being done in 2 states already... who championed the law in Nebraska?
Well the bill was created by Dianna Schimeck... who is a democrat. It was narrowly passed by a vote of 25-23 before it was signed into law by Ben Nelson... who is a Democrat.
Don't believe that link? Have another. Link
Why, in fact, Democrats were proud of this all the way up to as recently as May of this year- Link
Nebraska Republicans tried to change it in 2010- The Democratic Guv stopped them. Link

So there you are, Democrats liked this idea until Republicans proposed it.

Now, I just spent time doing research which will no doubt be ignored. I assume, like in the past, no one will bother to apologize to me for the vicious slurs despite being correct.

Lost Thought 00: If I ever meet these people in person, they will not survive the day.


So you advocate the indiscriminate murder of people who you disagree with politically. The hacks who claim the Tea Party is violent will never call you out on it so feel free to be as unamerican as you can be.
 
2012-12-12 09:00:25 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Insatiable Jesus: udhq: MJMaloney187: You anti-white types are going to be really sorry when we leave you behind to fend for yourselves. You know that right?

Man, what is going on today? You're the third person with whom I've had to bipass "derpy green" straight to "stormfront red".



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I thought it was just me. I've seen four or so today that I've never seen before. Out of nowhere they are all over a bunch of different threads herping the derp. Probably some new division of NewsCorp.

They were trolling the Portland Mall shooting thread yesterday with their "Fark has an anti-white bias" BS.


That's a big fat negative there, Hoss. I never troll. It's gratuitously pointless.

And you will be happy to know that I've already left, and I took my mad skills with me.
 
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