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(Slate)   Well, voter ID didn't work. Banning early and extended voting didn't work. I guess we'll just have to make those pesky urban votes worth less than Real American votes are   (slate.com) divider line 143
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2012-12-12 03:22:36 PM
According to Stanley Kurtz, the author of Radical-in-Chief and Spreading the Wealth, Obama is using the powers of the federal government to pull people and money out of the suburbs and into the cities. "Although it remains almost totally unknown to the public," writes Kurtz in the second book, "a great deal of Obama's early political career was devoted to the goal of abolishing America's suburbs, a project he undertook in close collaboration with his Alinskyite organizing mentors."


Of course it remains almost totally unknown to the public -- YOU JUST MADE IT UP.
 
2012-12-12 03:29:35 PM
It's no secret that the GOP hates democracy. It's because they suck at it so badly.
 
2012-12-12 03:29:44 PM
I don't think that's really Brack Obama in that picture.
 
2012-12-12 03:30:34 PM
If you can't win, change the rules.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-12 03:40:20 PM
The GOP seems to almost be trying to pull off a coup. A judicial coup, but same thing really.

I know people who wish some general would seize power and get rid of Obama. I am wondering how rare those people are now.
 
2012-12-12 03:41:55 PM
On Monday, as Sen. Carrico was talking up his bill, the Pew Research Center brought together a group of secretaries of state and campaign strategists. The topic: Whether the voting snafus of 2012 could be fixed. Democrats were interested. Republicans wanted to slow down and really think about this. Did urbanites have a harder time voting? Yes. Did that hurt Democrats? Well, sure.

"I don't hold out any hope that there's going to be a bipartisan agreement," said Scott Tranter, who'd consulted for the Romney campaign. "At the end of the day, we're all campaign officials, and we want to do whatever we can to help our side. Sometimes that's voter ID. Sometimes that's longer lines. Whatever it may be."


Isn't partisan control of elections great?

 
2012-12-12 03:50:33 PM
This guy may be onto something. But how much less, is the question. If I may, I propose that we make "urban" votes worth 3/5 of a "Real AmericanTM" vote. What do y'all think?
 
2012-12-12 03:51:49 PM
Obama's desire to abort every child and make every old person into a filling gruel is also almost totally unknown to the public.
 
2012-12-12 03:56:15 PM

BSABSVR: Obama's desire to abort every child and make every old person into a filling gruel is also almost totally unknown to the public.


Just like that Kenyan bastard to fill us full of stringy old people instead of fresh, sweet, tender aborted babyflesh.
 
2012-12-12 03:59:00 PM

gilgigamesh: BSABSVR: Obama's desire to abort every child and make every old person into a filling gruel is also almost totally unknown to the public.

Just like that Kenyan bastard to fill us full of stringy old people instead of fresh, sweet, tender aborted babyflesh.


The old people gruel is free, but they sell the baby flesh to give people something to strive for.
 
2012-12-12 04:00:24 PM
Why doesn't he just come out and say that he wants to count urban people as 3/5s of a person?
 
2012-12-12 04:04:11 PM

vpb: The GOP seems to almost be trying to pull off a coup. A judicial coup, but same thing really.


The GOP is 1 for 1 in judicial coup d'etats, so you can't blame them.

/Came here to make the 3/5ths joke, glad to see someone beat me to it.
 
2012-12-12 04:09:44 PM

vpb: The GOP seems to almost be trying to pull off a coup. A judicial coup, but same thing really.


DjangoStonereaver: The GOP is 1 for 1 in judicial coup d'etats, so you can't blame them.


ahem, 1 for 2. they impeached clinton but he was acquitted by the senate.
 
2012-12-12 04:11:30 PM
That's such utter bullsh*t. It's damn near traitorous.
 
2012-12-12 04:11:39 PM
Obama is using the powers of the federal government to pull people and money out of the suburbs and into the cities. "Although it remains almost totally unknown to the public,"

This is already happening. They're building a Wal-Mart not far from my house. Wake up, sheeple!
 
2012-12-12 04:13:51 PM
So Romney won the popular vote in Virginia? Is that why the rural districts feel cheated?

Why else would you need to change it? Why not just get rid of electoral votes and just go by popular vote?
 
2012-12-12 04:14:43 PM

hillbillypharmacist: That's such utter bullsh*t. It's damn near traitorous.


It's not treason if it's done to benefit Real Americans.

It's not quite as patriotic as secession, though.
 
2012-12-12 04:15:44 PM
Ah yes, the Gentry. They are better than the rest of us.

Carrico's solution: Make the rural vote matter more and make the metro vote count less. His bill, SB273, would assign 11 of Virginia's electoral votes to its 11 congressional districts. The state's two remaining votes would go to whoever received the "highest number of votes in a majority of congressional districts."

So ... tie electoral votes to Congressional Districts. That were gerrymandered. To produce a GOP majority in the House of Representatives.
 
2012-12-12 04:17:23 PM
Derptastic.
 
2012-12-12 04:18:10 PM
Here's how State Senator Charles Carrico explains it.

People in my district - they feel discouraged by coming out because their votes don't mean anything if they're outvoted in metropolitan districts. It can go either way - it doesn't necessarily mean that one political party is going to be favored over another.

Oh, you feel discouraged! Your vote doesn't mean anything if more people disagree with you than agree! Oh, let us hold this poor dear's hand and make sure that his vote means something! Which means necessarily simply asking him who he wants to be elected and the majority be damned!
 
2012-12-12 04:23:11 PM

hillbillypharmacist: Here's how State Senator Charles Carrico explains it.

People in my district - they feel discouraged by coming out because their votes don't mean anything if they're outvoted in metropolitan districts. It can go either way - it doesn't necessarily mean that one political party is going to be favored over another.

Oh, you feel discouraged! Your vote doesn't mean anything if more people disagree with you than agree! Oh, let us hold this poor dear's hand and make sure that his vote means something! Which means necessarily simply asking him who he wants to be elected and the majority be damned!


Again, I think these people in power believe themselves to be superior to their constituents. They think they know best and their voters should be happy with that. They want less participation from these people, but not so little they can't continue to win elections. Rural voters are being had, sadly.
 
2012-12-12 04:47:54 PM
What could I possibly say to piss farkers off even more?
I know what will work....ANY DAMN THING
 
2012-12-12 04:53:36 PM
The OH Sec of State is trying this bullshiat as well.

Deer season is over now. I was so sorry to hear he hadn't accidentally been shot. Several times. Over and over again.
 
2012-12-12 04:55:41 PM
The GOP is going to be so butthurt if Democrats control the majority of states come redistricting time.
 
2012-12-12 05:02:18 PM
If the GOP put half as much effort into serving the public as they do trying to screw voters we may just be able to get shiat done in this country. But I guess that's too much to ask for.
 
2012-12-12 05:04:21 PM

jehovahs witness protection: What could I possibly say to piss farkers off even more?
I know what will work....ANY DAMN THING


You sound furrious. 
 
2012-12-12 05:06:21 PM
The self proclaimed "greatest democracy that ever freedomed" is having a public discussion about the fact they can't run an election without fraud.
 
2012-12-12 05:40:57 PM
So the party of personal responsibility, the party who rails against political correctness, the party of "you don't get a trophy just for participating" is saying that they want to change the rules of the game because their team lost and some people got their feelings hurt because people disagreed with them?
 
2012-12-12 05:58:40 PM
As the founding fathers intended.
 
2012-12-12 06:01:28 PM
If you can't win on your own merits, cheat.

That's pretty much it, right, GOPers?

Oh wait..you idiots still think Obama won because of voter fraud, so there's absolutely no use trying to talk to your derp ridden pasty white asses.
 
2012-12-12 06:01:40 PM

James!: jehovahs witness protection: What could I possibly say to piss farkers off even more?
I know what will work....ANY DAMN THING

You sound furrious.


He just wants his country back
 
2012-12-12 06:04:21 PM
So it's basically the electoral college system taken a step further. Like a double electoral college.
 
2012-12-12 06:04:24 PM

DjangoStonereaver: The GOP is 1 for 1 in judicial coup d'etats, so you can't blame them.


Coincidentally, that happened 12 years ago today.
 
2012-12-12 06:04:58 PM
The GOP sucks so hard, they suck the testicle out of the sack while tea bagging themselves.
 
2012-12-12 06:05:20 PM
The people that want to make voting more difficult in a society that votes for its leaders in some manner, hates the society they are in.

People that hate the society they are in have no business representing it.

People who keep voting for people who have no business representing society are idiots.
 
2012-12-12 06:08:39 PM
This idea was championed by Democrats when Republicans were kicking their teeth in.
 
2012-12-12 06:09:08 PM

zappaisfrank: If you can't win on your own merits, cheat.

That's pretty much it, right, GOPers?

Oh wait..you idiots still think Obama won because of voter fraud, so there's absolutely no use trying to talk to your derp ridden pasty white asses.


Well most of them feel the only reason Clinton won was Perot and that economic boom of the 90's was just Reaganomics taking hold. So dealing in reality isn't there strong suit to begin with
 
2012-12-12 06:09:58 PM

phaseolus: Of course it remains almost totally unknown to the public -- YOU JUST MADE IT UP.


GOP is proposing this in several states. Oddly, only in the "swing" states from this last election.

Mrbogey: This idea was championed by Democrats when Republicans were kicking their teeth in.


Don't you ever feel bad about lying/trolling?
 
2012-12-12 06:11:04 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: The people that want to make voting more difficult in a society that votes for its leaders in some manner, hates the society they are in.

alright, maybe.

People that hate the society they are in have no business representing it.

This one definitely makes no sense,
 
2012-12-12 06:13:18 PM

El_Perro: On Monday, as Sen. Carrico was talking up his bill, the Pew Research Center brought together a group of secretaries of state and campaign strategists. The topic: Whether the voting snafus of 2012 could be fixed. Democrats were interested. Republicans wanted to slow down and really think about this. Did urbanites have a harder time voting? Yes. Did that hurt Democrats? Well, sure.

"I don't hold out any hope that there's going to be a bipartisan agreement," said Scott Tranter, who'd consulted for the Romney campaign. "At the end of the day, we're all campaign officials, and we want to do whatever we can to help our side. Sometimes that's voter ID. Sometimes that's longer lines. Whatever it may be."

Isn't partisan control of elections great?


Holy crap. I didn't think they'd come right out and admit they deliberately acted to disenfranchise voters explicitly in order to improve their side's chances.
 
2012-12-12 06:14:03 PM

Holocaust Agnostic: Sock Ruh Tease:
People that hate the society they are in have no business representing it.

This one definitely makes no sense,


No kidding. How is one supposed to change a society they hate without representing the segment that agrees with them?
 
2012-12-12 06:14:04 PM
GOP strategist 1: We keep losing elections and the population is getting more and more liberal. Should we maybe think of some new ideas to appeal to more people so that we can remain relevant?

GOP strategist 2: Nah, let's undermine Democracy and try to rig things so that we can milk a few more elections without having to adapt.

Average American: I am so farked.
 
2012-12-12 06:15:06 PM

Satanic_Hamster: phaseolus: Of course it remains almost totally unknown to the public -- YOU JUST MADE IT UP.

GOP is proposing this in several states. Oddly, only in the "swing" states from this last election.

Mrbogey: This idea was championed by Democrats when Republicans were kicking their teeth in.

Don't you ever feel bad about lying/trolling?


I dont feel bad because I haven't lied. Sorry princess if the truth hurts your butt.
 
2012-12-12 06:15:22 PM

Mrbogey: This idea was championed by Democrats when Republicans were kicking their teeth in.


When? Citation, or you're lying.
 
2012-12-12 06:15:53 PM
we'll just have to make those pesky urban votes worth less than Real American votes are

They already are.
 
2012-12-12 06:16:33 PM
Republicans work hard to show the rest of the world what they really think of the Democratic process they enforce gently persuade on others through military conquest.
 
2012-12-12 06:18:44 PM
I know what we can do! Count urban voters as 3/5ths of a person, like the Founding Fathers intended.
 
2012-12-12 06:21:20 PM

vpb: The GOP seems to almost be trying to pull off a coup. A judicial coup, but same thing really.


This is happening in state legislatures, not courts.
 
2012-12-12 06:21:23 PM

naughtyrev: Why doesn't he just come out and say that he wants to count urban people as 3/5s of a person?


We've got four years, give 'em time.
 
2012-12-12 06:21:33 PM
Oh great. Another Fascist with a megaphone. Just what this country needs
 
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