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2012-12-12 04:04:40 PM
I'm shocked, shocked to find to hear about this. They should be fact checking the text books.
 
2012-12-12 04:05:55 PM
"In 2010, the Texas Board of Education banned any books that 'paint Islam in too favorable of a light.' "


The Texas Board of Education:

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2012-12-12 04:10:43 PM

UberDave: "In 2010, the Texas Board of Education banned any books that 'paint Islam in too favorable of a light.' "


The Texas Board of Education:

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Not fair. Clowns have to have gone to school.
 
2012-12-12 04:10:51 PM
The director, Jan Moberly, said she hired a "very socially and fiscally conservative" former social studies teacher who "watches Glenn Beck on a regular basis" to seek out any Islamic bias in CSCOPE.

"I asked her to look for anything she would consider the least bit controversial," Moberly told the board. That entailed reading through every textbook and cross referencing each religious reference with the CSCOPE guidelines.

Moberly's presentation was accompanied by the fruits of her investigation: a 72-page handout listing every religious reference in the CSCOPE curriculum, from kindergarten to high school.

The upshot of the investigation:

- Christianity got twice as much attention in the curriculum as any other religion. Islam was a distant second.

- The Red Crescent and Boston Tea Party reference mentioned in the email were nowhere in CSCOPE's curriculum, although they may have been in the past.

- If there was any Islamic bias in CSCOPE it was "bias against radical Islam."


Glenn Beck is a cult leader. He has to be. People don't willingly go stupid for no reason at all.
 
2012-12-12 04:14:23 PM
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2012-12-12 04:15:55 PM
these people should be jailed for child abuse. five years for every child in the texas school system.
 
2012-12-12 04:20:58 PM
From the redlit thread:
I think it'd be fun to do this in every school district. If they're honest investigators, they'll find it EVERYWHERE. Hell, the fact that HS history classes only seem to cover European history, what with all the focus on which Catholics were killing which Protestants and why, makes it damn near a lock.

Anyone who has grown up non-Christian in this country has likely felt like an outsider, even if only for the last month of the year, every year.

// I know I sound like I have a chip on my shoulder about this, and I do
// but most people fail to realize how Christian a country we really are (socially)
 
2012-12-12 04:21:47 PM
A bizarre chain email sent to district and school board officials in the Dallas area this October titled "IRVING ISD INDOCTRINATING ISLAM ..."

Big fat Irving. Big dum-dum Irving.
 
2012-12-12 05:15:48 PM

Dr Dreidel: From the redlit thread:
I think it'd be fun to do this in every school district. If they're honest investigators, they'll find it EVERYWHERE. Hell, the fact that HS history classes only seem to cover European history, what with all the focus on which Catholics were killing which Protestants and why, makes it damn near a lock.

Anyone who has grown up non-Christian in this country has likely felt like an outsider, even if only for the last month of the year, every year.

// I know I sound like I have a chip on my shoulder about this, and I do
// but most people fail to realize how Christian a country we really are (socially)


I grew up a Jehovah's Witness, a Christian denomination, and I definitely felt like an outsider.
 
2012-12-12 05:20:54 PM
From the Dallas Morning News blog: "Christianity got twice as much attention in the curriculum as any other religion. Islam was a distant second."

B-B-B-B-BUT
I was assured that the USA was a JUDEO-Christian nation. Where is all the Talmudic Haggadah that Pat Robertson and Mike Huckabee told me about? Could somebody have been lying to me? Where's Rashi's commentary on the Declaration of Independence and the Seder meal at Valley Forge? Where is the Baal Shem Tov's speech against the Communications Act of 1934? I feel so lost and lied to.
 
2012-12-12 05:22:02 PM

RedPhoenix122: I grew up a Jehovah's Witness, a Christian denomination, and I definitely felt like an outsider.


Let me guess...you didn't grow your C.T. Russell sideburns fat enough, right? :-)
 
2012-12-12 05:22:12 PM
What *kind* of Christian?
 
2012-12-12 05:22:32 PM

Dr Dreidel: Anyone who has grown up non-Christian in this country has likely felt like an outsider, even if only for the last month of the year, every year.


The Christmas season isn't really about Jesus anymore. Sure, it's the window dressing, but there's a putrid core of raw consumerism in there.
 
2012-12-12 05:23:32 PM
TFA: This isn't the first time Texas has debated the perceived presence of too much Islam in its school books. In 2010, the Texas Board of Education banned any books that "paint Islam in too favorable of a light."

It's not a communicable disease, morons.

When're you lot going to kick Texas out. They make the US look like whackos.
 
2012-12-12 05:24:07 PM
OH, NO SHIAT?
 
2012-12-12 05:24:33 PM

phaseolus: A bizarre chain email sent to district and school board officials in the Dallas area this October titled "IRVING ISD INDOCTRINATING ISLAM ..."

Big fat Irving. Big dum-dum Irving.


Irving ISD is 90% Hispanic now.
 
2012-12-12 05:26:03 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: What *kind* of Christian?


Why, the right kinds of of course.

napamosquito.org
 
2012-12-12 05:27:26 PM

Somacandra: From the Dallas Morning News blog: "Christianity got twice as much attention in the curriculum as any other religion. Islam was a distant second."

B-B-B-B-BUT I was assured that the USA was a JUDEO-Christian nation. Where is all the Talmudic Haggadah that Pat Robertson and Mike Huckabee told me about? Could somebody have been lying to me? Where's Rashi's commentary on the Declaration of Independence and the Seder meal at Valley Forge? Where is the Baal Shem Tov's speech against the Communications Act of 1934? I feel so lost and lied to.


what do martial arts have to do with anything?
 
2012-12-12 05:27:29 PM

Dr Dreidel: From the redlit thread:
I think it'd be fun to do this in every school district. If they're honest investigators, they'll find it EVERYWHERE. Hell, the fact that HS history classes only seem to cover European history, what with all the focus on which Catholics were killing which Protestants and why, makes it damn near a lock.

Anyone who has grown up non-Christian in this country has likely felt like an outsider, even if only for the last month of the year, every year.

// I know I sound like I have a chip on my shoulder about this, and I do
// but most people fail to realize how Christian a country we really are (socially)


I don't know how they did it, but my fiancé's parents managed to raise him with little to no Christian indoctrination, and he went to public school. I'm an atheist with pagan tendencies who was baptized Mormon and went to a Baptist elementary school. It's music to my ears whenever I say something like Soddom and Gomorrah and then he asks me to explain; I can just present it as is without having to wade through all the emotional bullshiat Christians tend to attach to their holy book, and we can look at it as just a valuable book of literature. One reason of many why I'm not letting go of him.
 
2012-12-12 05:27:32 PM
I guess they found that they overclocked their Christian bios, too.
 
2012-12-12 05:28:15 PM
Oh WORD?!?!

meat0918: Mr. Coffee Nerves: What *kind* of Christian?

Why, the right kinds of of course.

[napamosquito.org image 850x680]


My folks had an infestation of those farkers last month. They are SEVERELY unpleasant creatures.
 
2012-12-12 05:28:39 PM
i.imgur.com

My first sniff of bullshiat is that they're using the Nation Of Islam's symbol to somehow represent Islam worldwide, which has no official symbol. Besides the obligatory Tea Party/Birther crap. I mean.
 
2012-12-12 05:29:03 PM
Christianity got twice as much attention in the curriculum as any other religion. Islam was a distant second.

So there is a Muslim bias.

/new math
 
2012-12-12 05:29:11 PM

simplicimus: UberDave: "In 2010, the Texas Board of Education banned any books that 'paint Islam in too favorable of a light.' "


The Texas Board of Education:

[s7.postimage.org image 640x429]

Not fair. Clowns have to have gone to school.


Thread over.
 
2012-12-12 05:29:24 PM

Lehk: what do martial arts have to do with anything?


HASSAN CHOP!
 
2012-12-12 05:30:04 PM
You needed an investigation to find Christian bias in the Texan public school system?

Talk about a perfect example of government waste.
What's next - hiring Ric to find out if football coaches have more power over student's grades than the actual teachers?
 
2012-12-12 05:30:50 PM
A bizarre chain email sent to district and school board officials in the Dallas area this October titled "IRVING ISD INDOCTRINATING ISLAM" inspired a

Take note people. On 12/12/12, it was published that a chain email inspired someone to do something
 
2012-12-12 05:31:43 PM
But he said trustee Steven Jones "didn't think the response was good enough...Jones told me he never requested the presentation, although he dislikes CSCOPE in general and thinks its treatment of Islam is "very politically correct."

And what kind of training in religious literacy or education does Trustee Jones have, I wonder....
 
2012-12-12 05:32:41 PM
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-12-12 05:33:28 PM

RedPhoenix122: Dr Dreidel: From the redlit thread:
I think it'd be fun to do this in every school district. If they're honest investigators, they'll find it EVERYWHERE. Hell, the fact that HS history classes only seem to cover European history, what with all the focus on which Catholics were killing which Protestants and why, makes it damn near a lock.

Anyone who has grown up non-Christian in this country has likely felt like an outsider, even if only for the last month of the year, every year.

// I know I sound like I have a chip on my shoulder about this, and I do
// but most people fail to realize how Christian a country we really are (socially)

I grew up a Jehovah's Witness, a Christian denomination, and I definitely felt like an outsider.


I grew up agnostic. my father was agnostic, my mother jehovahs witness, but we belonged to the episcopal church for political reasons. I am married to an israeli. I am not sure how I feel. But I do know public schools are christian indoctrination centers. At least here in florida.
 
2012-12-12 05:35:32 PM

Dr Dreidel: I think it'd be fun to do this in every school district. If they're honest investigators, they'll find it EVERYWHERE.


i.imgur.com

Well you can't really expect our would-be Christian leaders to see their own biases now, can you?
 
2012-12-12 05:35:40 PM

Somacandra: From the Dallas Morning News blog: "Christianity got twice as much attention in the curriculum as any other religion. Islam was a distant second."

B-B-B-B-BUT I was assured that the USA was a JUDEO-Christian nation. Where is all the Talmudic Haggadah that Pat Robertson and Mike Huckabee told me about? Could somebody have been lying to me? Where's Rashi's commentary on the Declaration of Independence and the Seder meal at Valley Forge? Where is the Baal Shem Tov's speech against the Communications Act of 1934? I feel so lost and lied to.


Robertson, Huckabee and most other people who claim to be Christian are not. They are opposed to the values of Christ.
 
2012-12-12 05:37:05 PM

Dr Dreidel: Hell, the fact that HS history classes only seem to cover European history, what with all the focus on which Catholics were killing which Protestants and why, makes it damn near a lock.


upload.wikimedia.org

If you already know American History the way it's commonly taught in our country, then this will round out your knowledge with the tidbits that they leave out of our textbooks..

Christopher Columbus was a raging asshole.
 
2012-12-12 05:37:28 PM

kg2095: Robertson, Huckabee and most other people who claim to be Christian are not. They are opposed to the values of Christ.


So...THEY'RE the Jews?

/Somacandra on Fark, his mind exploding
 
2012-12-12 05:37:33 PM
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2012-12-12 05:39:03 PM
Sounds like lib propaganda to me.

Next they'll be telling us that sharia law isn't a threat to our freedoms.
 
2012-12-12 05:44:37 PM

RedPhoenix122: Dr Dreidel: From the redlit thread:
I think it'd be fun to do this in every school district. If they're honest investigators, they'll find it EVERYWHERE. Hell, the fact that HS history classes only seem to cover European history, what with all the focus on which Catholics were killing which Protestants and why, makes it damn near a lock.

Anyone who has grown up non-Christian in this country has likely felt like an outsider, even if only for the last month of the year, every year.

// I know I sound like I have a chip on my shoulder about this, and I do
// but most people fail to realize how Christian a country we really are (socially)

I grew up a Jehovah's Witness, a Christian denomination, and I definitely felt like an outsider.


That's because you guys don't believe in anything and that's just weird.

I'm kidding. I always admired the courage it must've taken my JW classmates who, during Pledge of Allegiance, to just stand there with hands at sides and not saying a word.
 
2012-12-12 05:45:16 PM
Just about everything I know about Islam I learned in world history class in a Texas public high school taught by a graduate of seminary. He was a damn fine teacher and did an amazing job of teaching world religions. Of course he would probably get run out on a rail these days by the lunatics running our state.
 
2012-12-12 05:46:52 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Sounds like lib propaganda to me.

Next they'll be telling us that sharia law isn't a threat to our freedoms.


I invite them to try and ban it.

Every time they fail, they reinforce the wall of separation of church and state, but they never seem to realize that. In my experience, they don't see a problem with trying to ban Islam because they don't believe it is a religion, ergo, the 1st Amendment doesn't apply.

//I've known people that think each Christian sect is it's own religion (rather than denomination) and wasn't even aware of Buddhism or Islam (pre-9/11 at least)
 
2012-12-12 05:47:09 PM
What I LOVE about falling educational standards in my state: These kids are going to be my competition for jobs in the future. They'll be weak competition at best.

What I HATE about falling educational standards in my state: If these kids are all dumb as bricks, all the tech companies will eventually leave Dallas. Also, I want to have kids some day, and my wife and I have already decided that when it is time for the cubs to get educated, they won't be educated in Texas.
 
2012-12-12 05:47:48 PM
The blaming of the messenger will start shortly.
That poor woman, the hell she is about to go through is not enviable.
 
2012-12-12 05:48:08 PM

404 page not found: RedPhoenix122: Dr Dreidel: From the redlit thread:
I think it'd be fun to do this in every school district. If they're honest investigators, they'll find it EVERYWHERE. Hell, the fact that HS history classes only seem to cover European history, what with all the focus on which Catholics were killing which Protestants and why, makes it damn near a lock.

Anyone who has grown up non-Christian in this country has likely felt like an outsider, even if only for the last month of the year, every year.

// I know I sound like I have a chip on my shoulder about this, and I do
// but most people fail to realize how Christian a country we really are (socially)

I grew up a Jehovah's Witness, a Christian denomination, and I definitely felt like an outsider.

That's because you guys don't believe in anything and that's just weird.

I'm kidding. I always admired the courage it must've taken my JW classmates who, during Pledge of Allegiance, to just stand there with hands at sides and not saying a word.


Jesus, I need to lay off the coffee. WTF did I just type?
 
2012-12-12 05:52:29 PM

404 page not found: Jesus, I need to lay off the coffee. WTF did I just type?


You just said you admired traitors to the country, that's what!
 
2012-12-12 05:52:58 PM

simplicimus: UberDave: "In 2010, the Texas Board of Education banned any books that 'paint Islam in too favorable of a light.' "


The Texas Board of Education:

[s7.postimage.org image 640x429]

Not fair. Clowns have to have gone to school.


Florida State. right?
 
2012-12-12 05:53:15 PM
UH-OH!
 
2012-12-12 05:54:03 PM

Somacandra: kg2095: Robertson, Huckabee and most other people who claim to be Christian are not. They are opposed to the values of Christ.

So...THEY'RE the Jews?

/Somacandra on Fark, his mind exploding


No. They're assholes.
 
2012-12-12 05:54:27 PM

Somacandra: Dr Dreidel: I think it'd be fun to do this in every school district. If they're honest investigators, they'll find it EVERYWHERE.

[i.imgur.com image 806x535]

Well you can't really expect our would-be Christian leaders to see their own biases now, can you?


Wow..Just...Wow..

How much of a jerk move is it to send a Hanukkah note with a New Testament quote on it...
That is way worse than the Hanukkah ham sale,,
 
2012-12-12 05:54:29 PM

IrateShadow: The Christmas season isn't really about Jesus anymore.


And it never was. "Christmas" is a potluck-holiday that takes it's traditions from just about every single religion and culture that ever celebrated winter solstice. Christianity is just the most recent religion to bring a pot to the party. A few hundred years from now, the solstice tree might be decorated with tiny flying saucers and R Reagan bobble-heads.
 
2012-12-12 05:55:18 PM

Satanic_Hamster: You just said you admired traitors to the country, that's what!


But he's right.
What true Christian and real American would recite some kind of cultist mantra written by a socialist?
 
2012-12-12 05:55:28 PM

meat0918: Lionel Mandrake: Sounds like lib propaganda to me.

Next they'll be telling us that sharia law isn't a threat to our freedoms.

I invite them to try and ban it.

Every time they fail, they reinforce the wall of separation of church and state, but they never seem to realize that. In my experience, they don't see a problem with trying to ban Islam because they don't believe it is a religion, ergo, the 1st Amendment doesn't apply.

//I've known people that think each Christian sect is it's own religion (rather than denomination) and wasn't even aware of Buddhism or Islam (pre-9/11 at least)


I know of a couple of pastors and several local, county and state level politicians here in South Carolina that take the view that Protestantism is the only valid religion. Buddhism is covered as a philosophy, and Islam, 7th Day Adventism, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Catholicism are all supposedly non-religious cults.

A few of the pastors even take the view that Southern Baptist is the only 'real' religion. Although at least one does make an exception for Methodists - but only because he married one of them.

I've hesitated to ask him what other things would all of a sudden become holy if he could just sleep with one of it's adherents.
 
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