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(LA Times)   Most popular Wolf in Yellowstone killed by hunter. Where is your Red Riding Hood now?   (latimes.com) divider line 279
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2012-12-12 01:24:39 PM
Nobody cries about the nerdy wolves.
 
2012-12-12 02:32:32 PM
was the eighth wolf fitted with a GPS collar to be shot
Those collars are great trophies.
 
2012-12-12 02:41:02 PM
Heard this on NPR this morning. She was the HWIC.
 
2012-12-12 02:42:03 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-12 02:42:53 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: was the eighth wolf fitted with a GPS collar to be shot
Those collars are great trophies.


If they were to put the collar on, or in their pocket after the kill, the gps readings would open a few eyes...
OMG!! It's at the mall!
 
2012-12-12 02:42:59 PM
This is really disappointing.
 
2012-12-12 02:43:35 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-12 02:43:54 PM

Pinner: Because People in power are Stupid: was the eighth wolf fitted with a GPS collar to be shot
Those collars are great trophies.

If they were to put the collar on, or in their pocket after the kill, the gps readings would open a few eyes...
OMG!! It's at the mall!


That would be hilarious.
 
2012-12-12 02:44:46 PM
blogs.ajc.com

RIP
 
2012-12-12 02:46:34 PM
Suck it wolf
 
2012-12-12 02:48:22 PM
On one hand, this sucks.

On the other hand, you get less legitimacy for poachers (screwed up, I know) if there is a legal avenue for them to hunt.

//Wanted to smack a hunter that said there is an unwritten law in Oregon that if you see a wolf, you shoot it and never saw a word. What an asshole.
 
2012-12-12 02:48:36 PM

Gunny Highway: This is really disappointing.


Yeah, some of the pack survived. Better luck next year hunters
 
2012-12-12 02:49:04 PM
She will live on forever in our hearts...and on some guy's mantle stuffed.
 
2012-12-12 02:49:34 PM

Gunny Highway: This is really disappointing.

 
jvl
2012-12-12 02:50:20 PM
And by saying "in Yellowstone" multiple times they presumably mean "outside of Yellowstone". You can't hunt in a National Park without federal charges.
 
2012-12-12 02:50:52 PM
She was Delicious.
 
2012-12-12 02:51:06 PM
The article headline says "in Yellowstone". Which is false. As per the NPR story yesterday, the pack had wandered out of Yellowstone and into a legal hunting area.

At least the article could get that fact straight.

/hunting is stupid
 
2012-12-12 02:51:58 PM
I still don't understand this hatred for wolves. Seriously, can someone please explain this to me?
 
2012-12-12 02:52:23 PM

ChipNASA: She was Delicious.


And her hair was Perfect.
 
2012-12-12 02:53:00 PM

meat0918: On one hand, this sucks.

On the other hand, you get less legitimacy for poachers (screwed up, I know) if there is a legal avenue for them to hunt.

//Wanted to smack a hunter that said there is an unwritten law in Oregon that if you see a wolf, you shoot it and never saw a word. What an asshole.


There's a similar saying in Wisconsin about Poachers.
 
2012-12-12 02:53:45 PM
So, we can kill these by the millions:
www.saawinternational.org

...yet wolves are different somehow? Why? Whats the difference -- aside from how much wolves look like domestic pets.
 
2012-12-12 02:53:47 PM
Who the fark shoots a wolf?!? Why not go twist a bald eagle's head off while you're at it?
 
2012-12-12 02:54:50 PM
I still don't understand hunting, even when hunters aren't shooting popular animals. A bunch of fat, illiterate drunks stumble out into the woods at dawn, sit around in a wooden chair in the cold until mid-afternoon (or they get too drunk and fall out) and take potshots at wandering, defenseless wildlife in the meantime.

This is somehow "hunting".

When you manage to kill something by tracking it and fighting it to the death with your bare hands, I'll stop calling you fat, illiterate drunks and start calling you hunters. Not a moment sooner.

/ I'm just pissy because some fat, illiterate drunk was hunting in off-limits property behind my house a few years ago and put a bullet in my deck
// welcome to north-central PA.... I guess I should at least be glad he got out of his truck before he took the shot
 
2012-12-12 02:54:52 PM

jvl: And by saying "in Yellowstone" multiple times they presumably mean "outside of Yellowstone". You can't hunt in a National Park without federal charges.


Yup, you can hunt in national forests, but not national parks. The problem here in CO is that animals don't have/understand maps, so the process of protecting them doesn't go very well when they're safe on one side of the imaginary line, but fair game on the other side. I'm ok with self-defense, or even if they shot wolves that came onto their own land (threatening to their cattle, sheep, or whatever)... but it bothers very much that there's only 1700 of them, and that seems to be enough that we think it's sustainable practice to hunt them still.

I mean, I don't even support moose hunting right now (I'm ok with deer hunting and other game) because the populations are so low... and I farking hate moose, they're the biggest jerks of the animal kingdom.
 
2012-12-12 02:55:24 PM

jshine: So, we can kill these by the millions:
[www.saawinternational.org image 425x319]

...yet wolves are different somehow? Why? Whats the difference -- aside from how much wolves look like domestic pets.


You are lucky trolls are on the endangered species list.
 
2012-12-12 02:55:34 PM

jshine: So, we can kill these by the millions:
[www.saawinternational.org image 425x319]

...yet wolves are different somehow? Why? Whats the difference -- aside from how much wolves look like domestic pets.


Would you eat wolf? No one ever has. They are a problem for ranchers, but no one else.
 
2012-12-12 02:55:56 PM
the wolves are the aggressors!

/right? we were here first! Right?
 
2012-12-12 02:57:27 PM

Gunny Highway: jshine: So, we can kill these by the millions:
[www.saawinternational.org image 425x319]

...yet wolves are different somehow? Why? Whats the difference -- aside from how much wolves look like domestic pets.

You are lucky trolls are on the endangered species list.


They still need to be managed.
 
2012-12-12 02:57:30 PM

powtard: I still don't understand this hatred for wolves. Seriously, can someone please explain this to me?


You must live in the big city. Wolves decimate livestock populations as well as deer, elk and other wildlife. They also kill pets and will attack people if you are acting like prey. Most people are prey.
 
2012-12-12 02:57:35 PM
So until you get to grandma's place. I think you 'ought to walk with me and be safe
 
2012-12-12 02:57:47 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Yeah, some of the pack survived. Better luck next year hunters


This is what people who don't know a damned thing about hunting and wildlife management actually believe.
 
2012-12-12 02:57:49 PM

jshine: So, we can kill these by the millions:
[www.saawinternational.org image 425x319]

...yet wolves are different somehow? Why? Whats the difference -- aside from how much wolves look like domestic pets.


The difference is mostly taste and texture, sheer bang for the buck in volume of meaty goodness doesn't hurt either.
 
2012-12-12 02:57:55 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: I still don't understand hunting, even when hunters aren't shooting popular animals. A bunch of fat, illiterate drunks stumble out into the woods at dawn, sit around in a wooden chair in the cold until mid-afternoon (or they get too drunk and fall out) and take potshots at wandering, defenseless wildlife in the meantime.

This is somehow "hunting".

When you manage to kill something by tracking it and fighting it to the death with your bare hands, I'll stop calling you fat, illiterate drunks and start calling you hunters. Not a moment sooner.

/ I'm just pissy because some fat, illiterate drunk was hunting in off-limits property behind my house a few years ago and put a bullet in my deck
// welcome to north-central PA.... I guess I should at least be glad he got out of his truck before he took the shot


Vegans should be shot on sight IMO.
 
2012-12-12 02:59:10 PM

jshine: So, we can kill these by the millions:
[www.saawinternational.org image 425x319]

...yet wolves are different somehow? Why? Whats the difference -- aside from how much wolves look like domestic pets.


We can kill millions of those because they're not in any danger whatsoever of going extinct, but wolves not so much considering there are only ~1700 left. That and I bet wild wolf meat doesn't taste as good as bovine.
 
2012-12-12 02:59:43 PM

Gunny Highway: jshine: So, we can kill these by the millions:
[www.saawinternational.org image 425x319]

...yet wolves are different somehow? Why? Whats the difference -- aside from how much wolves look like domestic pets.

You are lucky trolls are on the endangered species list.



The point about food is valid, if you consider hunting to be only a matter of obtaining food. ...but otherwise its a serious question: these various animals are all about at the same level of intelligence. Pigs (food) are probably at least as smart as wolves, yet one is killed in huge numbers daily and the other gets a fark thread for a single individual being shot. Is "cuteness" really so compelling that it determines which animals are kill-able and which are sacrosanct?
 
2012-12-12 02:59:49 PM

ChipNASA: She was Delicious.


try some wolf liver with onions, Delicious!
 
2012-12-12 03:00:05 PM

mochunk: The article headline says "in Yellowstone". Which is false. As per the NPR story yesterday, the pack had wandered out of Yellowstone and into a legal hunting area.

At least the article could get that fact straight.

/hunting is stupid


Hunting isn't stupid... if we didn't have deer hunters to thin the pack, the deer would get all kinds of sick... I was in MD when they banned it for a little while... I've never seen anything as sad as the consequences of that experiment... wasting diseases and starvation... it's pretty messed up what happens to their populations. As for elk hunting (which I did this year)... for the price of one elk tag, I can get enough meat to put in the deep freezer for several months, and the guy down in Fraser who dresses/carves them up gives 10-20 lbs of meat to a program that donates the (frozen) meat to poor families here in the mountains that need food. You say hunting is stupid, I say growing cows in torture-like conditions for years on end just so you can slaughter them en masse without needing to try as hard as hunters is stupid. Easy meat and easy bread make easy fat and easy dead.
 
2012-12-12 03:00:06 PM

sp86: Gunny Highway: jshine: So, we can kill these by the millions:
[www.saawinternational.org image 425x319]

...yet wolves are different somehow? Why? Whats the difference -- aside from how much wolves look like domestic pets.

You are lucky trolls are on the endangered species list.

They still need to be managed.


Broken picture link :( 

i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-12 03:00:24 PM

powtard: I still don't understand this hatred for wolves. Seriously, can someone please explain this to me?


See: Wolf's Rain. People are terrified of them. That's why they keep them as pets....

This is actually really, really bad. Species come and go, but wolves are a keystone species. The collapse of the wolf population would be tantamount to the collapse of the shark population around Australia. Imagine the island being surrounded by a sea of box jellyfish, which subsequently kill most of the fish. Wolves are some of the most efficient pack hunters in the world; they're dangerous where they haven't been and they're critically important where they've been for a long time. Removing them is a huge ecological shift.

And yet we let hunters take them because they conflict with human interests.. what? Put a fence around your farking livestock.
 
2012-12-12 03:00:30 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: / I'm just pissy because some fat, illiterate drunk was hunting in off-limits property behind my house a few years ago and put a bullet in my deck


Perhaps calling the police to report the inebriated trespasser would have done more to assuage your anger than has your futile hand-wringing.
 
2012-12-12 03:00:44 PM

Smeggy Smurf: powtard: I still don't understand this hatred for wolves. Seriously, can someone please explain this to me?

You must live in the big city. Wolves decimate livestock populations as well as deer, elk and other wildlife. They also kill pets and will attack people if you are acting like prey. Most people are prey.


Well you did choose to live in a wolf populated area, it's not like they were put there after you moved.
 
2012-12-12 03:01:50 PM

T.rex: Who the fark shoots a wolf?!? Why not go twist a bald eagle's head off while you're at it?


Mosly, those that have livestock killed by wolves, or those that don't want to see elk populations diminish further than they already have. Basically, you need to manage wolf populations just the same as you manage other big game populations.
 
2012-12-12 03:01:52 PM
FTA: "Wyoming's regressive wolf management plan is reminiscent of a time when bounties paid by state and federal governments triggered mass killings that nearly exterminated wolves from the lower 48 states," Jonathan Lovvorn, senior vice president and chief counsel for animal protection litigation at the Humane Society, said when the lawsuit was filed.

The term you are looking for is "extirpated."
 
2012-12-12 03:02:07 PM

Jamik137: We can kill millions of those because they're not in any danger whatsoever of going extinct, but wolves not so much considering there are only ~1700 left. That and I bet wild wolf meat doesn't taste as good as bovine.


State DNRs are usually pretty even-handed, and are staffed with people who know far more about conservation than we here in a fark thread. ...and a quick glance at the "Gray wolf" Wikipedia page seems to confirm their judgement: the species is listed as having a conservation status of "least concern" -- i.e., quite a way from endangered.
 
2012-12-12 03:02:25 PM
Personally, she wasn't my favorite. I didn't vote for her - I thought her song was off key and her dance moves kinda pedestrian.
 
2012-12-12 03:02:37 PM
Not one picture of Ruby from Once Upon A Time yet?

/ Fark, you're slipping.
 
2012-12-12 03:02:48 PM

firefly212: You say hunting is stupid, I say growing cows in torture-like conditions for years on end just so you can slaughter them en masse without needing to try as hard as hunters is stupid. Easy meat and easy bread make easy fat and easy dead.


I really want to take up deer hunting in Maryland--with a bow, not a rifle (I don't like guns; in fact I want a recurve bow, not a compound), but it will take archery practice, hunting practice, safety courses, equipment, time, etc etc. I've never been able to put together the time.
 
2012-12-12 03:03:01 PM
thesportshernia.typepad.com

RIP
 
2012-12-12 03:03:06 PM

mochunk: The article headline says "in Yellowstone". Which is false. As per the NPR story yesterday, the pack had wandered out of Yellowstone and into a legal hunting area.

At least the article could get that fact straight.

/hunting is stupid


But it's not the most popular wolf "outside" of Yellowstone.
 
2012-12-12 03:03:09 PM

firefly212: Easy meat and easy bread make easy fat and easy dead.


That's cute and all, but you have to admit deer hunting is pretty easy.

Granted you won't see a 400 lb dude dragging a bambi out on his all terrain rascal any time soon ... I forgot where I was going with that but that mental image is hilarious.
 
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