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(Washington Times)   "The legislation (in MI) exempts firefighters and police officers but not schoolteachers. This is because firefighters and police officers are vital to society. Teachers are not"   (communities.washingtontimes.com) divider line 44
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2012-12-12 05:48:15 PM
5 votes:

timujin: 1. If an article's headline asks a question that can be answered "no", don't bother writing the article.


Headlines that can be answered by "no" -- a good idea?
2012-12-12 04:18:14 PM
5 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: Not because cops and firefighters have guns and axes but teachers do not?


actually, it's because cops and firefighters are gay icons. do you think your average bible-thumping michigan republican is going to rub one out to thoughts of a school teacher?
2012-12-12 03:55:50 PM
4 votes:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Last time I checked, you needed at least a HS diploma to be a firefighter or police officer.


Yeah, but not to write for the Moonie Times. Who's the idiot now, huh, smart guy?
2012-12-12 01:31:03 PM
4 votes:
media.washtimes.com

Penis goes where? 
2012-12-12 07:42:38 PM
3 votes:
The legislation exempts firefighters and police officers but not schoolteachers. This is because firefighters and police officers are vital to society. Teachers are not. Let them scream and holler. That's all they ever do anyway. Firefighters rush into burning buildings. Police officers venture into dangerous areas most of us never know.

Police officers see skin colors most of us can't even imagine.
2012-12-12 04:24:35 PM
3 votes:

FlashHarry: BarkingUnicorn: Not because cops and firefighters have guns and axes but teachers do not?

actually, it's because cops and firefighters are gay icons. do you think your average bible-thumping michigan republican is going to rub one out to thoughts of a school teacher?


www.thearchnemesis.com

marvelousmisadventures.typepad.com 

It's conceivable.
2012-12-13 08:30:46 AM
2 votes:

Snarfangel: timujin: 1. If an article's headline asks a question that can be answered "no", don't bother writing the article.

Headlines that can be answered by "no" -- a good idea?


A Comment Followed by a Colon and a Question: The New Journalistic Standard?
2012-12-13 01:02:59 AM
2 votes:

r1chard3: They need the cops on the job to bust open the heads of the other groups that protest. The firemen are needed to put out any post riot fires.


We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Gimme five bees for a quarter, you'd say. Now where was I... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn't get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
2012-12-12 08:25:47 PM
2 votes:

Nadie_AZ: zedster: GOP Logic:
Companies colluding - Good for business
Workers colluding - ZOMG SOCIALISM


We really are on our way to the Gilded Age take 2

On our way?


true, we are deep in it, it's not even Gilded, it needs a different title maybe the polished turd age
2012-12-12 08:09:36 PM
2 votes:

Biological Ali: Somacandra: FTFA: If every public schoolteacher quit tomorrow, private schools, charter schools, and home-schooling would pick up the slack.

Yes, all of us will up and quit our jobs and suddenly become qualified primary and secondary teachers or just stay home and home-school. Its not like we need our jobs to pay actual bills.

Not to mention that this stupid argument applies as much to cops and firefighters as it does to teachers: "If every policeman in the country quit tomorrow, private security firms would pick up the slack!"


Who told you the plan???
2012-12-12 07:12:53 PM
2 votes:
i391.photobucket.com
2012-12-12 06:23:31 PM
2 votes:
I love it when people use the term "liberal" as a dirty word. It makes me feel naughty. Say it again, glorified blogger. Tell me I've been bad.

/sees picture

Erm. Nevermind.
2012-12-12 05:38:24 PM
2 votes:

Diogenes: hot-teacher.jpg


i said republican.
2012-12-12 04:12:58 PM
2 votes:
This cannot possibly, seriously, be this guy's profile pic

media.washtimes.com

I refuse to accept that.
2012-12-13 01:50:54 PM
1 votes:

CheapEngineer: beta_plus: Mentat: BarkingUnicorn: Not because cops and firefighters have guns and axes but teachers do not?

It's the same divide and conquer strategy Walker tried in Wisconsin. Set the unions against each other, take out the public sector unions, take out the industrial unions, and then take out the police and firefighter unions last when there's no one left to support them.

As usual, libtards try to hide their bitter tears of impotent rage by being intentionally obtuse on why having an actual skill set and doing something inherently dangerous allows one to have a sustainable and useful union.

[images.sodahead.com image 350x262]

/oh, and conveniently ignoring the 1919 Boston Police Strike

While you conveniently ignore the 1896 Philadelphia barn fire. Apparently none of you republi-tards are capable of learning from history!

\wow, that was easy


not to mention the Triangle fire, but hey who wants to?
2012-12-13 09:50:54 AM
1 votes:
Everyone I like deserves to be well compensated in their professions.

Everyone I dislike should work for free.

Did I get that right?
2012-12-13 05:26:14 AM
1 votes:

Lsherm: Some parents are using the public school system as the world's most expensive babysitter.


No, no... that would be prison.
2012-12-13 04:08:39 AM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com

I wonder if GOP understands ppl also want a job that pays enough to live a decent life. How about we cut CEO and Exec pay first?
2012-12-13 01:35:44 AM
1 votes:

LordJiro: And who's forcing you to work at a closed shop? Answer: Nobody. You CHOOSE to work at a union shop, you accept the responsibilities.


A Republican? Accept responsibilities? Ahahahaha, ohh... Nice one, I needed that.
2012-12-12 11:15:49 PM
1 votes:
i29.photobucket.com

Can you open your mouth wider and tilt your head back?
2012-12-12 10:15:05 PM
1 votes:

Diogenes: [media.washtimes.com image 120x120]


Is it just me, or does this guy look like Torg's hipster brother?
2012-12-12 08:48:20 PM
1 votes:

beta_plus: Obvious tag on strike?

American public school teachers suck. We pay more per student on k-12 public schools and our reward is the world's most stupid children. By any measure American public school teachers suck ass. When they aren't doing their job, they're sexually abusing the children of hispanics because they know that their parents fear having the INS called. Then after sexually abusing their children, they blame the parents!

/"We teachers need more money to do a job that when we fail miserably at it will then claim we can't do it because the parents suck - while we make their kids suck us off!"


Wow, that troll was trolled so hard I think you may have damaged the bridge.

/troll
2012-12-12 08:38:58 PM
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: If unions care about workers as much as they claim to, they'll continue representing the employees even if they're not being paid for it.



If firefighters and police really care about the citizens they're sworn to protect, they'll send their paychecks back and serve their cities gratis.
2012-12-12 08:36:00 PM
1 votes:

Cinaed: Police and Firefighters? Good for today.
Teachers? Good for tomorrow.


Republicans: AMAZING FOREVER
2012-12-12 08:21:07 PM
1 votes:

Tyee: No one should be forced to join or not to join a union.


Nobody is forcing anyone to join a union in most cases. But if you choose not to join, you still have to pay union dues as if you did. That is the issue in a nutshell. Michigan says that arrangement is not fair...that if you pay money you should get something in return. What to non-union members get in return for those payments? Nada. Oh sure, the union is quick to point out that they get the job. But the job is ultimately not the union's to give, it is the employer's. So the question of what the non-union worker gets from the union is still "nothing".

Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-union. Not at all! But I do think the one point this jumble-headed blogger makes correctly is that the union model is very badly broken. It has been for a long time, and it needs to be fixed very soon or unions will get shut down completely. The world is a vastly different place than it was 50 years ago, and the union model which worked for the benefit of the worker so well then is now almost completely counter-productive, and in some cases directly destructive. There needs to be union reform and total re-evaluation of its foundational principles, goals, and methodologies. They need to evolve, and quickly, if they want to be a part of the future in this country. If they don't, their days are numbered.
2012-12-12 08:14:55 PM
1 votes:
FTFA If every public schoolteacher quit tomorrow, private schools, charter schools, and home-schooling would pick up the slack.

Well, except for the couple to few million special-needs kids born to parents who can't afford either high-priced schools or staying home, that private/charter schools don't want to touch with a 50-foot-pole. But, y'know, fark them. That's what Jesus would say.
Ant
2012-12-12 08:13:36 PM
1 votes:
I guess labor just needs to remind businesses about the good old days
www.davisenterprise.com
2012-12-12 08:12:45 PM
1 votes:

Tyee: No one should be forced to join or not to join a union.


You're not forced to be employed.

Nor are you forced to spew nonsense in a thread, but something must be compelling you anyway. A few ounces of Reagan's portrait not yet covered in jizz, perhaps?
2012-12-12 08:09:10 PM
1 votes:
It's the same reason the state police union was the only union exempt in Wisconsin's dismantling of collective bargaining: IN CASE OF PUBLIC UPRISING, THE RICH ARE STILL PROTECTED BY THE POLICE THEY ESSENTIALLY PURCHASED, and I guess in this case they also wanted the fires set to their homes by the lynch mobs put out
2012-12-12 08:06:25 PM
1 votes:

China White Tea: I assume I am missing something that makes it an unreasonable position... so could someone tell me what that is?


If one is not forced then the Unions lose power.
2012-12-12 08:04:42 PM
1 votes:

Tyee: No one should be forced to join or not to join a union.


I almost made a joke about you being in a Fark troll union, but you're so terrible at it I doubt you could ever be a paid troll.
2012-12-12 08:02:54 PM
1 votes:
I feel like people should be allowed to unionize and collectively bargain over things like hours and compensation and benefits, if they so desire.

I also feel like, if someone does not want to be a part of a union, they should, in no way, be barred from getting a job on that basis alone.

I almost never see this position represented in conversations about unions, and since I'm not particularly knowledgeable about the subject, I assume I am missing something that makes it an unreasonable position... so could someone tell me what that is?
2012-12-12 07:59:55 PM
1 votes:
No one should be forced to join or not to join a union.
2012-12-12 07:57:19 PM
1 votes:
allmansd:
Cops and firefighters = men
Teachers = women & liberals



FTFY
2012-12-12 07:52:28 PM
1 votes:

clambam: I wouldn't mind if these people ran on a platform of "If elected, I will bust the unions," then got elected and busted the unions. That would be giving people what they wanted. It just seems that they're all running on some completely different platform, then when they get into power do the ol' bait and switch and pursue some completely different agenda. Had George Bush run on a platform of "If elected, I will invade Iraq," he never would have gotten elected (come to think of it...). But he stated on numerous occasions during the campaign that he "wasn't interested in nation-building" and then proceeded to do precisely that. How can we ever trust the repub Party again? They lie preferentially. Onto the ashbin of history with them.


They ran on "JOBS, JOBS, JOBS"
2012-12-12 07:47:55 PM
1 votes:
So. I asked this idiot if he went to school. Be interesting to see what he says. I'll let you know if I get a response, and if so, what it is.
2012-12-12 07:45:56 PM
1 votes:
Cops and firefighters = men
Teachers = women
2012-12-12 05:33:25 PM
1 votes:
The Voice of Doom
..afraid to losing.


Bipartisan solution for "afraid of losing" vs "afraid to lose"
2012-12-12 05:07:24 PM
1 votes:

Diogenes: It's conceivable.


img138.imageshack.us
2012-12-12 04:50:53 PM
1 votes:
Cops are vital?

No, they're the armed division of government revenue collection.

They prey on the profitable low-hanging fruit of people who drive too fast. Then they try to squirm out of taking police reports from people who are victims of crime. Always some horseshiat about it being a "ivil matter" or "not in their jurisdiction."

I don't have a problem with authority. I have a problem with lazy bumfarks who mostly collect money for the city council's fancy catered lunches.
2012-12-12 04:11:40 PM
1 votes:
This guy is tool.

@TYGRRRREXPRESS

Tygrrrr Express--Author of Ideological Bigotry, Ideological Violence and Ideological Idiocy. Lover of football, finance, and Republican Jewish brunettes.

#twitterdouche
2012-12-12 03:19:57 PM
1 votes:
Last time I checked, you needed at least a HS diploma to be a firefighter or police officer.
2012-12-12 01:27:31 PM
1 votes:
Not because cops and firefighters have guns and axes but teachers do not?
2012-12-12 01:13:51 PM
1 votes:
Wow, that article has a troll-tastic headline, and based on the author's bio, I'm sure he'd be a blast at parties. Also, he may want to try to make his book titles a little more varied.

Also, this gem: "Money was taken from their paychecks to fund political causes they vehemently detested." about his parents. So, it's bad when unions do it, but just fine when the company you works for gets tax breaks that you have to pick up the slack on while they lobby for more tax breaks or else they'll move jobs overseas. Alternatively, if you're say, anti-war, your taxes are still going to that war. But this doesn't occur to the author.
 
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