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(Washington Times)   "The legislation (in MI) exempts firefighters and police officers but not schoolteachers. This is because firefighters and police officers are vital to society. Teachers are not"   (communities.washingtontimes.com) divider line 237
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2012-12-12 01:13:51 PM  
Wow, that article has a troll-tastic headline, and based on the author's bio, I'm sure he'd be a blast at parties. Also, he may want to try to make his book titles a little more varied.

Also, this gem: "Money was taken from their paychecks to fund political causes they vehemently detested." about his parents. So, it's bad when unions do it, but just fine when the company you works for gets tax breaks that you have to pick up the slack on while they lobby for more tax breaks or else they'll move jobs overseas. Alternatively, if you're say, anti-war, your taxes are still going to that war. But this doesn't occur to the author.
 
2012-12-12 01:27:31 PM  
Not because cops and firefighters have guns and axes but teachers do not?
 
2012-12-12 01:31:03 PM  
media.washtimes.com

Penis goes where? 
 
2012-12-12 03:11:30 PM  
Oh this ought to be fun if it goes green
 
2012-12-12 03:19:57 PM  
Last time I checked, you needed at least a HS diploma to be a firefighter or police officer.
 
2012-12-12 03:55:50 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Last time I checked, you needed at least a HS diploma to be a firefighter or police officer.


Yeah, but not to write for the Moonie Times. Who's the idiot now, huh, smart guy?
 
2012-12-12 04:00:11 PM  
Hey, look! It's another blog from some guy!
 
2012-12-12 04:11:40 PM  
This guy is tool.

@TYGRRRREXPRESS

Tygrrrr Express--Author of Ideological Bigotry, Ideological Violence and Ideological Idiocy. Lover of football, finance, and Republican Jewish brunettes.

#twitterdouche
 
2012-12-12 04:12:58 PM  
This cannot possibly, seriously, be this guy's profile pic

media.washtimes.com

I refuse to accept that.
 
2012-12-12 04:18:14 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Not because cops and firefighters have guns and axes but teachers do not?


actually, it's because cops and firefighters are gay icons. do you think your average bible-thumping michigan republican is going to rub one out to thoughts of a school teacher?
 
2012-12-12 04:19:27 PM  
This is a terrible blog. OOGA BOOGA liberals and their union armies are gonna destroy you!
 
2012-12-12 04:24:35 PM  

FlashHarry: BarkingUnicorn: Not because cops and firefighters have guns and axes but teachers do not?

actually, it's because cops and firefighters are gay icons. do you think your average bible-thumping michigan republican is going to rub one out to thoughts of a school teacher?


www.thearchnemesis.com

marvelousmisadventures.typepad.com 

It's conceivable.
 
2012-12-12 04:40:54 PM  
1. If an article's headline asks a question that can be answered "no", don't bother writing the article.

2. There's no way that headline is a direct quote... oh, shiat. Alright, so the article headline is stupid and then the writer manages to double down in the body. Fantastic.
 
2012-12-12 04:50:53 PM  
Cops are vital?

No, they're the armed division of government revenue collection.

They prey on the profitable low-hanging fruit of people who drive too fast. Then they try to squirm out of taking police reports from people who are victims of crime. Always some horseshiat about it being a "ivil matter" or "not in their jurisdiction."

I don't have a problem with authority. I have a problem with lazy bumfarks who mostly collect money for the city council's fancy catered lunches.
 
2012-12-12 04:53:28 PM  
The GOP plan for government:

1. Cut money to a service.
2. Service becomes so crappy that it's better to go private.
3. GOP now has an excuse to kill it entirely.
4. Repeat.

/how long until we kill public schools entirely?
 
2012-12-12 04:57:24 PM  

sigdiamond2000: This cannot possibly, seriously, be this guy's profile pic

[media.washtimes.com image 120x120]

I refuse to accept that.


Oh, he's like pooh all right.
 
2012-12-12 05:03:49 PM  
FTFA: "Imagine how liberals would react if dues were used to fund AFP or other conservative causes. They would call this stealing, which it is."

When people mooch off the benefits of hard-earned collective bargaining agreements unions work for without contributing to their creation, that would be called stealing, which it is.

/Oh, and your Moonie blog sucks. Its pure polemic with no actual reasoning.
 
2012-12-12 05:07:24 PM  

Diogenes: It's conceivable.


img138.imageshack.us
 
2012-12-12 05:08:25 PM  
FTFA: If every public schoolteacher quit tomorrow, private schools, charter schools, and home-schooling would pick up the slack.

Yes, all of us will up and quit our jobs and suddenly become qualified primary and secondary teachers or just stay home and home-school. Its not like we need our jobs to pay actual bills.
 
2012-12-12 05:29:25 PM  
Firefighters rush into burning buildings. Police officers venture into dangerous areas most of us never know.

Teachers can reduce the number of times firefighters and police officers have to do those things - besides reducing the things "most of us never know".


The real difference (besides "teachurs be libruls!") is the immediate, obvious feedback:
With cuts to firefighters and police, people might get hurt NOW. There'll be media attention and you'll get the blame.

But when society and economy go slowly down the shiatter, it's less obvious and people won't make a direct connection (especially if they had bad teachers) with education.
And should the shiat finally hit the fan, it'll be somebody else's problem because by then you'll have been out of office for some time. 


/related theory: "Fark you, I got mine!" means you have stuff you might be afraid to losing. And the people protecting your stuff are..?
 
2012-12-12 05:33:25 PM  
The Voice of Doom
..afraid to losing.


Bipartisan solution for "afraid of losing" vs "afraid to lose"
 
2012-12-12 05:38:06 PM  

The Voice of Doom: Teachers can reduce the number of times firefighters and police officers have to do those things - besides reducing the things "most of us never know".


Teachers are dangerous because they teach poor people that they are equal to rich and powerful people- and sometimes how they themselves can become rich and powerful. That is no good. Can't have that. Next thing you know, we've a "poor" person in the White House. We need a hierarchical society where the bettors rule the lessors. And there are far more lessors than bettors. This can be controlled with more police, more prisons, lower wages, etc.
 
2012-12-12 05:38:24 PM  

Diogenes: hot-teacher.jpg


i said republican.
 
2012-12-12 05:48:15 PM  

timujin: 1. If an article's headline asks a question that can be answered "no", don't bother writing the article.


Headlines that can be answered by "no" -- a good idea?
 
2012-12-12 05:59:09 PM  
The purpose of the legislation is to save schoolteachers and the rest of the left from themselves. Right-to-work legislation in neighboring states like Indiana has strengthened their economies at Michigan's expense. Foreign investors have zero interest doing business in anti-business slums. Governor Snyder wants to save Michigan from collapse.

Fark. You.

Just... Fark you.
 
2012-12-12 06:02:37 PM  
So if they're essential you make it illegal for them to strike thus who needs a union?
 
2012-12-12 06:10:59 PM  
I love the double talk on this:

It's good for the employees!!!

Oh, But we aren't doing it for cops or firefighters because we don't want to hurt them because they are important.


So which is it?
 
2012-12-12 06:11:28 PM  

The Voice of Doom: Firefighters rush into burning buildings. Police officers venture into dangerous areas most of us never know.

Teachers can reduce the number of times firefighters and police officers have to do those things - besides reducing the things "most of us never know".


The real difference (besides "teachurs be libruls!") is the immediate, obvious feedback:
With cuts to firefighters and police, people might get hurt NOW. There'll be media attention and you'll get the blame.

But when society and economy go slowly down the shiatter, it's less obvious and people won't make a direct connection (especially if they had bad teachers) with education.
And should the shiat finally hit the fan, it'll be somebody else's problem because by then you'll have been out of office for some time. 


/related theory: "Fark you, I got mine!" means you have stuff you might be afraid to losing. And the people protecting your stuff are..?


The real reason is that police and firefighter unions tend to contribute more to Republicans.
 
2012-12-12 06:14:24 PM  

edmo: So if they're essential you make it illegal for them to strike thus who needs a union?


If the FD is a local of the IAFF they can't strike. Firefighters aren't a true union (it's International Association of Fire Fighters) since we don't have the power to strike. I would imagine PD is the same but I can't say that for certain
 
2012-12-12 06:16:34 PM  

sigdiamond2000: This cannot possibly, seriously, be this guy's profile pic

[media.washtimes.com image 120x120]

I refuse to accept that.


This is begging for a "Penis goes where?" caption
 
2012-12-12 06:18:37 PM  
Of course teachers aren't vital. If we all homeschooled like Jesus tells us to in the Bible, then society would be perfect, the budget would be balanced, dogs would live with cats, and Ron Paul would be President for the next 28 years straight.
 
2012-12-12 06:20:54 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: The purpose of the legislation is to save schoolteachers and the rest of the left from themselves. Right-to-work legislation in neighboring states like Indiana has strengthened their economies at Michigan's expense. Foreign investors have zero interest doing business in anti-business slums. Governor Snyder wants to save Michigan from collapse.

Fark. You.

Just... Fark you.


It's a race to the bottom.
 
2012-12-12 06:23:31 PM  
I love it when people use the term "liberal" as a dirty word. It makes me feel naughty. Say it again, glorified blogger. Tell me I've been bad.

/sees picture

Erm. Nevermind.
 
2012-12-12 06:52:38 PM  
Weapons grade derp there.

Oh, and it's green now. This should be fun.
 
2012-12-12 07:12:53 PM  
i391.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-12 07:21:38 PM  
a hypothetical broad interpretation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act-an interpretation that could make it illegal for employees to violate their companies' computer policies.

First part of sentence: yeah, exactly.

Second part: even if broad hypothetical became fruition.. I'd still be cool at my company.

/I got mine, fark you, biatches!
 
2012-12-12 07:23:36 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Not because cops and firefighters have guns and axes but teachers do not?


It's the same divide and conquer strategy Walker tried in Wisconsin. Set the unions against each other, take out the public sector unions, take out the industrial unions, and then take out the police and firefighter unions last when there's no one left to support them.
 
2012-12-12 07:31:14 PM  
Whoops, wrong thread....

:/
 
2012-12-12 07:42:38 PM  
The legislation exempts firefighters and police officers but not schoolteachers. This is because firefighters and police officers are vital to society. Teachers are not. Let them scream and holler. That's all they ever do anyway. Firefighters rush into burning buildings. Police officers venture into dangerous areas most of us never know.

Police officers see skin colors most of us can't even imagine.
 
2012-12-12 07:44:46 PM  
farking assholes
 
2012-12-12 07:45:49 PM  

sigdiamond2000: This cannot possibly, seriously, be this guy's profile pic

[media.washtimes.com image 120x120]

I refuse to accept that.


It's not.

This is:

media.washtimes.com

He's a Fark fave.
 
2012-12-12 07:45:56 PM  
Cops and firefighters = men
Teachers = women
 
2012-12-12 07:47:05 PM  
It doesn't surprise me that a columnist for the Moonie Times hates teachers. You see, occasionally a teacher helps their students acheive the critical thinking skills needed to realize that something in the Washington Times is a pile of shiat.

And by "teacher" there, I mean kindergarden teachers.
 
2012-12-12 07:47:29 PM  
I wouldn't mind if these people ran on a platform of "If elected, I will bust the unions," then got elected and busted the unions. That would be giving people what they wanted. It just seems that they're all running on some completely different platform, then when they get into power do the ol' bait and switch and pursue some completely different agenda. Had George Bush run on a platform of "If elected, I will invade Iraq," he never would have gotten elected (come to think of it...). But he stated on numerous occasions during the campaign that he "wasn't interested in nation-building" and then proceeded to do precisely that. How can we ever trust the repub Party again? They lie preferentially. Onto the ashbin of history with them.
 
2012-12-12 07:47:55 PM  
So. I asked this idiot if he went to school. Be interesting to see what he says. I'll let you know if I get a response, and if so, what it is.
 
2012-12-12 07:49:21 PM  
Teachers are just as vital as cops.
Or at least as vital as daytime corrections officers - more of which you'll have to hire once you finally finish convincing people they can't afford to teach.
 
2012-12-12 07:52:28 PM  

clambam: I wouldn't mind if these people ran on a platform of "If elected, I will bust the unions," then got elected and busted the unions. That would be giving people what they wanted. It just seems that they're all running on some completely different platform, then when they get into power do the ol' bait and switch and pursue some completely different agenda. Had George Bush run on a platform of "If elected, I will invade Iraq," he never would have gotten elected (come to think of it...). But he stated on numerous occasions during the campaign that he "wasn't interested in nation-building" and then proceeded to do precisely that. How can we ever trust the repub Party again? They lie preferentially. Onto the ashbin of history with them.


They ran on "JOBS, JOBS, JOBS"
 
2012-12-12 07:54:31 PM  

Somacandra: FTFA: If every public schoolteacher quit tomorrow, private schools, charter schools, and home-schooling would pick up the slack.

Yes, all of us will up and quit our jobs and suddenly become qualified primary and secondary teachers or just stay home and home-school. Its not like we need our jobs to pay actual bills.


Not to mention that this stupid argument applies as much to cops and firefighters as it does to teachers: "If every policeman in the country quit tomorrow, private security firms would pick up the slack!"
 
2012-12-12 07:55:57 PM  

The Voice of Doom: Firefighters rush into burning buildings. Police officers venture into dangerous areas most of us never know.

Teachers can reduce the number of times firefighters and police officers have to do those things - besides reducing the things "most of us never know".


The real difference (besides "teachurs be libruls!") is the immediate, obvious feedback:
With cuts to firefighters and police, people might get hurt NOW. There'll be media attention and you'll get the blame.

But when society and economy go slowly down the shiatter, it's less obvious and people won't make a direct connection (especially if they had bad teachers) with education.
And should the shiat finally hit the fan, it'll be somebody else's problem because by then you'll have been out of office for some time. 


/related theory: "Fark you, I got mine!" means you have stuff you might be afraid to losing. And the people protecting your stuff are..?


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ all of THIS and more
 
2012-12-12 07:56:19 PM  
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
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