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(Sky.com)   That CA "law student" gunned down in an apparent professional hit in NYC? He had a rap sheet as long as your arm, had 3 cell phones on him when he died and was described as "being heavily into CA 'club culture' "   (news.sky.com) divider line 112
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2012-12-12 11:33:51 AM
What is "an ecstasy dealer late on his payments to his mob-connected supplier" Alex?
 
2012-12-12 11:41:28 AM
Club culture? That was his problem. Never bring a club to a gunfight.
 
2012-12-12 11:42:20 AM
You know who else was heavily involved in club culture? Captain Caveman.
 
2012-12-12 11:55:27 AM
I'm more into Culture Club.
 
2012-12-12 11:58:47 AM

Magorn: What is "an ecstasy dealer late on his payments to his mob-connected supplier" Alex?


Seems a little extreme. He must have been really, really late. Either that or his shipment was massive.
 
2012-12-12 12:02:40 PM

BSABSVR: I'm more into Culture Club.


I guess someone really did want to hurt him after all.
 
2012-12-12 12:09:02 PM
Maybe he just hates conference calls via a single phone.
 
2012-12-12 12:19:42 PM
In other words, an average ordinary American citizen.
 
2012-12-12 12:31:21 PM

FloydA: BSABSVR: I'm more into Culture Club.

I guess someone really did want to hurt him after all.


Bad karma chameleon
 
2012-12-12 12:54:35 PM
Don't forget that he was also black.
 
2012-12-12 01:11:03 PM
So it was a rave hit?
 
2012-12-12 01:25:36 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-12 01:26:19 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: FloydA: BSABSVR: I'm more into Culture Club.

I guess someone really did want to hurt him after all.

Bad karma chameleon


He tumbled for ya'
 
2012-12-12 02:10:07 PM
Oh noes!!! He had three cell phones on him! That must mean he deserves to die, right? What's the number you're allowed to have on you? For quite a while I had two, one personal and one work, as well as a on-call pager one or two weeks a month, glad no one noticed and thought I should be killed.
 
2012-12-12 02:23:25 PM
Subby thinks he knows how long my arms are.

georgiainfo.galileo.usg.edu
 
2012-12-12 02:38:00 PM

CommieTaoist: Oh noes!!! He had three cell phones on him! That must mean he deserves to die, right? What's the number you're allowed to have on you? For quite a while I had two, one personal and one work, as well as a on-call pager one or two weeks a month, glad no one noticed and thought I should be killed.


Don't forget "club culture". That means he got what he deserved too, apparently.
 
2012-12-12 02:39:49 PM

CommieTaoist: Oh noes!!! He had three cell phones on him! That must mean he deserves to die, right? What's the number you're allowed to have on you? For quite a while I had two, one personal and one work, as well as a on-call pager one or two weeks a month, glad no one noticed and thought I should be killed.


An on-call pager, not a on-call pager
 
2012-12-12 02:40:51 PM
That photo is worthless.
First off, that picture looks like it was taken with a potato.
Second, you think a "professional hitman" would not know to use a mask? The answer is no...or that would be a very short career for a hitman.
 
2012-12-12 02:41:41 PM
After looking at the picture in the article, I hope there's just some guy out there walking around executing people for walking around while texting.
 
2012-12-12 02:42:14 PM
First of all, if here were really a law student he wouldn't have had time to shiat let alone run a drug operation.

Secondly with a rap sheet like that there was no way any law school would have ever admitted him. To be admitted to a state bar you have to pass certain "character fitness requirements" (I know, I know). Law schools don't like to waste time with people who have no chance in hell of being admitted to practice.
 
2012-12-12 02:42:36 PM

CommieTaoist: Oh noes!!! He had three cell phones on him! That must mean he deserves to die, right? What's the number you're allowed to have on you? For quite a while I had two, one personal and one work, as well as a on-call pager one or two weeks a month, glad no one noticed and thought I should be killed.


2/10.
 
2012-12-12 02:43:12 PM

Wayne 985: CommieTaoist: Oh noes!!! He had three cell phones on him! That must mean he deserves to die, right? What's the number you're allowed to have on you? For quite a while I had two, one personal and one work, as well as a on-call pager one or two weeks a month, glad no one noticed and thought I should be killed.

Don't forget "club culture". That means he got what he deserved too, apparently.


There's a world of difference between "law student gunned down in what looks like a professional hit" and "law student with more cell phones than ears, reputed to be deep into a culture not known for its law-and-order-ness AND with an actual legal history (which he was on the wrong side of) gunned down in what looks like a professional hit."

Then again, he may have had Skittles and iced tea. Never can be too careful with the type that walks around after dark...
 
2012-12-12 02:44:21 PM
Why release the information about the gun? Doesn't that encourage the shooter to get rid of it even more?
 
2012-12-12 02:46:24 PM
I don't get it.
 
2012-12-12 02:46:36 PM
was the club the Queen Mary's?
 
2012-12-12 02:46:40 PM

Magorn: What is "an ecstasy dealer late on his payments to his mob-connected supplier" Alex?


My guess he was expanding his business into NYC and the local businessmen weren't happy about it.
 
2012-12-12 02:47:26 PM

JerseyTim: You know who else was heavily involved in club culture? Captain Caveman.


I want to go clubbing with Captain Caveman and BamBam Flintstone.
 
2012-12-12 02:48:35 PM

corn-bread: First of all, if here were really a law student he wouldn't have had time to shiat let alone run a drug operation.


"Oh, gosh, I'm in class for almost five hours a day! It's really haaaard!" This is why we in IP make fun of full-time law students.

Secondly with a rap sheet like that there was no way any law school would have ever admitted him. To be admitted to a state bar you have to pass certain "character fitness requirements" (I know, I know). Law schools don't like to waste time with people who have no chance in hell of being admitted to practice.

Yeah, they're really diligent about turning down unqualified people who want to pay them that sweet, sweet tuition money. This is why all law schools have a 100% bar passage rate and there's 100% employment among graduates.
 
2012-12-12 02:50:59 PM
He

BSABSVR: I'm more into Culture Club.


He should have turned around and said "Do you really want to hurt me?"

/woulda shooped that if i wasnt lazy
 
2012-12-12 02:52:29 PM
Was any of that info from the headline in TFA?
 
2012-12-12 02:52:55 PM
He loved sports, maybe he owed money.
 
2012-12-12 02:53:57 PM
He had a rap sheet as long as your arm

So do most on the Tribal Board for my local casino. What's your point?
 
2012-12-12 02:54:02 PM
Three cell phones, by law, means you're guilty of something awful and deserve to die. It's called the "You Have Three Cell Phones So You Deserve To Die" law.
 
2012-12-12 02:54:05 PM
Sorry, but at 31 you should be past being called a "sweet young man"

FTA: He had been due back in court January 22 following his arrest by Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies in West Hollywood in April on a felony cocaine possession charge.

Yeah, he sounds totally sweet and innocent.
 
2012-12-12 02:54:11 PM

misanthropologist: Was any of that info from the headline in TFA?


Aside from "hit" and "3 cell phones," no.
 
2012-12-12 02:55:54 PM

DeathCipris: That photo is worthless.
First off, that picture looks like it was taken with a potato.
Second, you think a "professional hitman" would not know to use a mask? The answer is no...or that would be a very short career for a hitman.


well, it seems like he did just fine. a mask would have attracted attention. the camera image can't make a decent ID, and, since we wasn't wearing a mask beforehand, no one was paying attention to him. then, afterwards, no one wants to pay attention to him because they just heard a gunshot.

reminds me of:
www.wikinoticia.com

Just let your hand drop to your
side, and let the gun slip out.
Everybody will still think you got
it. They'll be starin' at your
face, see? Then walk out of the
place real fast, but don't run.
Don't look anybody directly in the
eye, but don't look away from them
neither. Hey, they'll be scared
stiff o you, believe me. Nobody's
gonna bother with you. Don't worry
about nothing; you'd be surprised
how good these things go. O.K.,
put your hat on, let's see how you
look. Helps with identification.
 
2012-12-12 02:56:15 PM
This dude played basketball at my gym.. and while I wouldn't want anyone dead for it, he made the experience horrible. #1 A-hole on the court. I never had any interest in talking to him off the court for that reason.. maybe he was a super guy?

Maybe this is no interest to anyone, and I just like to talk about things I had some passing interaction with that made national news. Maybe I should delete this and go about my day. But then, how would anyone know I made a life altering decision to stop commenting on things? Oh the conundrum. Hey.. lunch is here..
 
2012-12-12 02:56:50 PM

corn-bread: First of all, if here were really a law student he wouldn't have had time to shiat let alone run a drug operation.

Secondly with a rap sheet like that there was no way any law school would have ever admitted him. To be admitted to a state bar you have to pass certain "character fitness requirements" (I know, I know). Law schools don't like to waste time with people who have no chance in hell of being admitted to practice.


Convicted murderers have been allowed into law school.

My wife is an inactive attorney and she tells me law schools don't care if you pass the bar provided you are in some sense employed enough that the school can claim a high post graduation employment percentage.
 
mjg
2012-12-12 02:57:04 PM
A new Darwin Award category (Lifetime Achievement) should be instituted.

/please add nominees farkers
 
2012-12-12 02:57:36 PM
please, we were all in to them at some point or another.
you come and go.
im.glogster.com
 
2012-12-12 02:57:47 PM

Theaetetus: corn-bread: First of all, if here were really a law student he wouldn't have had time to shiat let alone run a drug operation.

"Oh, gosh, I'm in class for almost five hours a day! It's really haaaard!" This is why we in IP make fun of full-time law students.

Secondly with a rap sheet like that there was no way any law school would have ever admitted him. To be admitted to a state bar you have to pass certain "character fitness requirements" (I know, I know). Law schools don't like to waste time with people who have no chance in hell of being admitted to practice.

Yeah, they're really diligent about turning down unqualified people who want to pay them that sweet, sweet tuition money. This is why all law schools have a 100% bar passage rate and there's 100% employment among graduates.


Frankly I'm surprised someone with that kind of criminal history would be admitted to Loyola Marymount. It's not exactly a T-4 school or something.
 
2012-12-12 02:58:04 PM
He got on the wrong side of some bad people, that's for sure. Due in court for felony cocaine possession? For some reason I'm thinking the people he partied with might have some connections they didn't want aired in public. It is, as they say, a hell of a drug.
 
2012-12-12 02:58:10 PM
3 cell phones? Been there, done that.

When I worked for an elected official there would be times when I had my personal cell phone, my work cell phone (blackberry), and a cell phone for the campaign committee.
 
2012-12-12 02:59:37 PM

DeathCipris: Second, you think a "professional hitman" would not know to use a mask?


I'm not a professional hitman, though I've heard tell of professional hitmen.

I suspect masks are for amateurs. A man loitering around in a ski mask is going to draw instant attention. I think a Hollywood-grade disguise (bald cap, makeup, whatever, etc.) would work better. And who knows - the hitter may be wearing a disguise. As you pointed out, the picture appears to have been taken with a potato.
 
2012-12-12 03:00:06 PM

SkunkWerks: He had a rap sheet as long as your arm

So do most on the Tribal Board for my local casino. What's your point?


I truly can't recall a time in my life when blaming the victim was was so common.
 
2012-12-12 03:03:06 PM
I think this will be the plot for the next John Grisham book.
 
2012-12-12 03:03:46 PM
I write a lot about sex trafficking in the US and just about every time a pimp/trafficker is busted they almost inevitably are in possession of multiple cell phones.
 
2012-12-12 03:03:50 PM

MFAWG: I truly can't recall a time in my life when blaming the victim was was so common.


It is a defense mechanism. If you hear "random, upstanding fellow executed in public" it can really get under your skin... "nobody's safe" and all that. If you later hear "habitual offender with active felony cocaine charges against him gunned down" then it can shield you from the paranoia. After all, I have no arrest record, history of cocaine use, nor any ties to the drug trade. It seems to be no longer a random murder at all.

Hell, maybe someone will decide to not start using cocaine because of this. Yeah, right, I know.
 
2012-12-12 03:03:50 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Why release the information about the gun? Doesn't that encourage the shooter to get rid of it even more?


Could be that they're hoping someone from the 2009 shooting will step forward.
 
2012-12-12 03:06:21 PM

MFAWG: SkunkWerks: He had a rap sheet as long as your arm

So do most on the Tribal Board for my local casino. What's your point?

I truly can't recall a time in my life when blaming the victim was was so common.


In your lifetime, no. In human history, hell yes. 1945-2000 was a remarkably weird period in history, in re: personal responsibility, adherence to social norms, and 'justice'.

It's a very simple calculus: if you don't to be shot by a drug dealer, don't do business with drug dealers. And don't tolerate that behavior by your family and neighbors, either.
 
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