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2012-12-12 11:15:16 AM  

TheSelphie: Pretty sure that costume is from Episode 2. Unless the same costume is worn in both movies.


hey, it's Star Wars.

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2012-12-12 11:15:19 AM  
 
2012-12-12 11:15:20 AM  

stuhayes2010: dragonchild: [imgs.xkcd.com image 631x590]

"You think it's so legendarily bad that you'll torrent it and sit through it just for the kitschy nerd cred. I, too, once thought as you did."
-XKCD

Rocky Horrow is in the So Bad it's good zone?


rocky horror is not genuinely bad. it is pretty damned good up until the ending (when the film falls apart). but tim curry is amazing in that film.

and this is from someone that truly hated that movie and didn't appreciate its awesomeness until far into adult-hood.
 
2012-12-12 11:17:55 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: TheSelphie: Pretty sure that costume is from Episode 2. Unless the same costume is worn in both movies.

hey, it's Star Wars.

[img823.imageshack.us image 338x574]


I'd...um...sorry, got distracted.

I'd make her join the Dark Side, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.
 
2012-12-12 11:19:50 AM  
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2012-12-12 11:20:14 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: stuhayes2010: Rocky Horrow is in the So Bad it's good zone?

yes, yes it is.

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Ah, Sara Jean Underwood. I fell in love with her in her first Playboy appearance, which was a college girl issue - Girls of the Pac-something-or-other (I don't know NCAA conferences). Then she became a playmate and got fake boobs. Aftermarket boobs are a bit of a deal-killer for me.

I'm sure she's heartbroken about this.
 
2012-12-12 11:20:14 AM  

zerkalo: And yet, it was highly anticipated. Back in the days before home video, the internet, misc. Back when you had to hope for a revival at the theater. And we knew we had to wait for a year and a half for the next installment (which was more bad-ass than we could have imagined). So remember that before you slag on it.

but, yeah, it sucks balls


Before the internet, I had started to think that the Star Wars Holiday Special didn't really exist, and that I had imagined the whole thing as a child (I think nobody mentioned it out of embarrassment), so it was kind of nice to find out that I wasn't crazy.
 
2012-12-12 11:20:48 AM  
I gladly watch it to see coked out Carrie Fisher, and imagine the possibilities backstage...
 
2012-12-12 11:23:45 AM  
The horror the horror.
 
2012-12-12 11:25:47 AM  

flaminio: Is it Life Day already? My how the time flies...


Yes it is. And as a special bonus, Bioware put out LIfe Day items in their pay to play market for SWTOR that are just god awful corny, just like the Holiday Special.
 
2012-12-12 11:26:20 AM  

Bloody Templar: The Stealth Hippopotamus: stuhayes2010: Rocky Horrow is in the So Bad it's good zone?

yes, yes it is.

[img831.imageshack.us image 450x299]

Ah, Sara Jean Underwood. I fell in love with her in her first Playboy appearance, which was a college girl issue - Girls of the Pac-something-or-other (I don't know NCAA conferences). Then she became a playmate and got fake boobs. Aftermarket boobs are a bit of a deal-killer for me.

I'm sure she's heartbroken about this.


On Fark's more, umm, adult oriented picture site there's a great little video posted yesterday or this morning of her doing Yoga. Worth a check-out. Obviously, like everything on foobies, it's WAY NSFW.
 
2012-12-12 11:29:29 AM  

Silverstaff: since Lucas said he would have loved to hunted down every copy in existence and smashed it.


also without subtitles.
 
2012-12-12 11:30:54 AM  

meanmutton: On Fark's more, umm, adult oriented picture site there's a great little video posted yesterday or this morning of her doing Yoga.


I'd show her downward facing dog, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.
 
2012-12-12 11:40:48 AM  
WhippingBoy:
Mark Hamill's appearance on the Muppet Show.

Dude that's still fun to watch. Hamill is a pretty cool guy and, it seems, always has been.
 
2012-12-12 11:44:35 AM  
I own the dvd.
People ask to see it and I bet them lunch they can't sit through it all in one sitting.

I've won lunch 8 out 10 times.
 
2012-12-12 11:52:31 AM  

PizzaJedi81: I'd make her see space angels, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.


NOPE. i'm trying here! but still dont get it....

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2012-12-12 11:52:44 AM  

Zombie DJ: I own the dvd.
People ask to see it and I bet them lunch they can't sit through it all in one sitting.

I've won lunch 8 out 10 times.


you don't "own the dvd". you own a bootleg copy that someone burned to dvd.

/just sayin'

//agree about the lunch thing tho. I tried to get my wife to watch it with the rifftrax. she couldn't do it. made it about 10, maybe 15 minutes and then she started fast forwarding to the commercials.
 
2012-12-12 11:54:07 AM  

PizzaJedi81: I'd make her join the Dark Side, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.


IYKWIMAITYD

That doesn't spell anything! I hate when I dont get the joke....

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2012-12-12 11:54:09 AM  

Zombie DJ: I own the dvd.
People ask to see it and I bet them lunch they can't sit through it all in one sitting.

I've won lunch 8 out 10 times.


Yeah. If they can make it through it, you have to think that they've really worked for that lunch.
 
2012-12-12 11:55:45 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Fighting the Frizzies at 11.


Heh.

OtherLittleGuy: Calling it:

It will air on ABC Family as part of "25 Days of Christmas" within 5 years.

/suck it, George, you took the money


This ... is actually a pretty good prediction. I'd never really thought about it, but with Lucas out of the way, the odds of getting things that SW fans have always wanted (and Lucas never wanted) -- a good DVD transfer of the non-SE original films, a release of the Holiday Special, etc. -- is higher than it's ever been.
 
2012-12-12 11:57:46 AM  

Uzzah: Pants full of macaroni!!: Fighting the Frizzies at 11.

Heh.

OtherLittleGuy: Calling it:

It will air on ABC Family as part of "25 Days of Christmas" within 5 years.

/suck it, George, you took the money

This ... is actually a pretty good prediction. I'd never really thought about it, but with Lucas out of the way, the odds of getting things that SW fans have always wanted (and Lucas never wanted) -- a good DVD transfer of the non-SE original films, a release of the Holiday Special, etc. -- is higher than it's ever been.


he will never let that thing out of the vault. guaranteed. i would wager that an original broadcast print doesn't even exist any longer.
 
2012-12-12 11:58:06 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: PizzaJedi81: I'd make her join the Dark Side, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.

IYKWIMAITYD

That doesn't spell anything! I hate when I dont get the joke....

[img443.imageshack.us image 334x500]


I'd hold her like I did by the lake on Naboo, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.

/she's into handcuffs, ya dig?
 
2012-12-12 12:00:26 PM  

meanmutton: Fark's more, umm, adult oriented picture site


Fark has an adult oriented picture site?
 
2012-12-12 12:00:36 PM  

PizzaJedi81: The Stealth Hippopotamus: PizzaJedi81: I'd make her join the Dark Side, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.

IYKWIMAITYD

That doesn't spell anything! I hate when I dont get the joke....

[img443.imageshack.us image 334x500]

I'd hold her like I did by the lake on Naboo, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.

/she's into handcuffs, ya dig?


just because i am far more interested in stories about when you may have or may have not first seen the SWHS and not so interested this morn is SW cheesecake shots, can we get off of the "i'd hit it" stuff and talk about the special? just saying, I can google "slut dressed as Padme" all day but I don't often get to have a discussion about the worst thing that ever came out of the star wars universe.

/yeah, I am a giant dick, my name might as well be Scott.
 
2012-12-12 12:01:11 PM  

Broktun: meanmutton: Fark's more, umm, adult oriented picture site

Fark has an adult oriented picture site?


foobies
 
2012-12-12 12:02:36 PM  

Uzzah: Pants full of macaroni!!: Fighting the Frizzies at 11.

Heh.

OtherLittleGuy: Calling it:

It will air on ABC Family as part of "25 Days of Christmas" within 5 years.

/suck it, George, you took the money

This ... is actually a pretty good prediction. I'd never really thought about it, but with Lucas out of the way, the odds of getting things that SW fans have always wanted (and Lucas never wanted) -- a good DVD transfer of the non-SE original films, a release of the Holiday Special, etc. -- is higher than it's ever been.


I'm not sure on some of the details of the Disney deal. Does Disney now own the distribution rights for the existing movies and the Holiday Special? Or are the movies still the property of Fox, and the TV properties (Holiday Special, Ewok movies, Droids, etc), still owned by their respective networks? I thought Disney only owns the rights to the Star Wars IP, not the existing media.
 
2012-12-12 12:03:14 PM  

PizzaJedi81: if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.


I really wish you'd tell me what that means.

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i couldnt decide which to use.
 
2012-12-12 12:03:55 PM  
I remember watching it on TV when is aired. I was 10 and anything Star Wars was worth killing for. I remember having to watch this on a 13" with broken rabbit ears so the picture was snowy. I remember thinking in my 10 year old brain "WTF is this schitt?" Other than that the cartoon was cool.
 
2012-12-12 12:04:24 PM  

frepnog: a discussion about the worst thing that ever came out of the star wars universe.


At least the Star Wars Holiday Special is well-known. It's not just bad, it's infamously terrible. The Ewok Adventures movies just kind of...exist. Nobody even gives a crap about those.
 
2012-12-12 12:05:08 PM  

Broktun: meanmutton: Fark's more, umm, adult oriented picture site

Fark has an adult oriented picture site?


TFD.

/TorD
 
2012-12-12 12:11:10 PM  

frepnog: just because i am far more interested in stories about when you may have or may have not first seen the SWHS and not so interested this morn is SW cheesecake shots, can we get off of the "i'd hit it" stuff and talk about the special? just saying, I can google "slut dressed as Padme" all day but I don't often get to have a discussion about the worst thing that ever came out of the star wars universe.

/yeah, I am a giant dick, my name might as well be Scott.




Welcome to Fark
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2012-12-12 12:11:23 PM  
I would rather watch 5 hours of intergalactic political sessions than sit through 10 minutes of unsubtitled wookie Life Day celebrations.

Also, Episode I was disappointing, but Episode II was 10 minutes of good action, followed by me sleeping, followed by waking up to see a whole bunch of Jedis fighting before the credits rolled.
 
2012-12-12 12:13:51 PM  

NeoCortex42: At least the Star Wars Holiday Special is well-known. It's not just bad, it's infamously terrible. The Ewok Adventures movies just kind of...exist. Nobody even gives a crap about those.


Well, one person does.

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2012-12-12 12:14:06 PM  

NeoCortex42: frepnog: a discussion about the worst thing that ever came out of the star wars universe.

At least the Star Wars Holiday Special is well-known. It's not just bad, it's infamously terrible. The Ewok Adventures movies just kind of...exist. Nobody even gives a crap about those.


the Ewok things are bad, but they aren't torture to get thru. Hell, kids might even watch them. I just never really "got" the SW holiday special. Who thought that it was even remotely airable? Wht kid wanted to watch Bea Arthur warble thru a terrible song in a cantina? What kid cared if Art Carney sold crap in a galactic Dollar General? And who in the living shiat came up with the wookie family sitting around talking to each other with no interpretation whatsoever? Of all the turds that have passed thru the anus of Star Wars, the holiday special is certainly the most pungent.
 
2012-12-12 12:14:38 PM  

NeoCortex42: I'm not sure on some of the details of the Disney deal. Does Disney now own the distribution rights for the existing movies and the Holiday Special? Or are the movies still the property of Fox, and the TV properties (Holiday Special, Ewok movies, Droids, etc), still owned by their respective networks? I thought Disney only owns the rights to the Star Wars IP, not the existing media.


My understanding of the deal is that Disney owns everything LucasFilm owns.

The only thing that LucasFilm does NOT own is the distribution rights to Episode IV, that's FOX.

Since LucasFilm was built on the steal of a deal that GL made with FOX back in '77. In exchange for waiving any pay or compensation for making Star Wars, he got complete spin-off, merchandising, and sequel rights in perpetuity. FOX would have the complete rights to distribute the actual "Star Wars" film itself.

Every time A New Hope is re-released, it's by FOX and LucasFilm jointly, because LFL can't release it on its own. Everything else is pure Lucas.

At the time, FOX thought it was an incredible deal, because they were getting the movie made without having to pay the director. They figured he might sell a few T-shirts or something, but movie merchandising and spinoff/sequel rights were just plain not highly regarded in the mid 70's.
 
2012-12-12 12:15:39 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Welcome to Fark


oh my god. now imma have nightmares.

/thanks, dude, that was brilliant, and you owe me a keyboard.
 
2012-12-12 12:16:35 PM  

Hyatus: I would rather watch 5 hours of intergalactic political sessions than sit through 10 minutes of unsubtitled wookie Life Day celebrations.


5 hours of intergalactic political sessions?

Episode I the super-extended cut, now with a Trade Federation filibuster?
 
2012-12-12 12:18:15 PM  

frepnog: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Welcome to Fark

oh my god. now imma have nightmares.

/thanks, dude, that was brilliant, and you owe me a keyboard.


I know. I was looking for one that I made when I came across that jewel. Sooo perfect

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2012-12-12 12:27:09 PM  

PizzaJedi81: I'd dive into her Sarlacc Pit, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.


I'd hit her in the small thermal exhaust port, right below the main port.
 
2012-12-12 12:27:23 PM  

Silverstaff: At the time, FOX thought it was an incredible deal, because they were getting the movie made without having to pay the director. They figured he might sell a few T-shirts or something, but movie merchandising and spinoff/sequel rights were just plain not highly regarded in the mid 70's.


That deal is probably the one that made studios sit up and take notice of sequel and merchandise rights. Heck, nowadays merchandising is probably worth more than the regular box office take if there's a sufficient tie in with kids' toys (exhibit A: Cars).
 
2012-12-12 12:29:10 PM  

Mad_Radhu: PizzaJedi81: I'd dive into her Sarlacc Pit, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.

I'd hit her in the small thermal exhaust port, right below the main port.


That's impossible, even for a computer.
 
2012-12-12 12:30:13 PM  

Silverstaff: NeoCortex42: I'm not sure on some of the details of the Disney deal. Does Disney now own the distribution rights for the existing movies and the Holiday Special? Or are the movies still the property of Fox, and the TV properties (Holiday Special, Ewok movies, Droids, etc), still owned by their respective networks? I thought Disney only owns the rights to the Star Wars IP, not the existing media.

My understanding of the deal is that Disney owns everything LucasFilm owns.

The only thing that LucasFilm does NOT own is the distribution rights to Episode IV, that's FOX.

Since LucasFilm was built on the steal of a deal that GL made with FOX back in '77. In exchange for waiving any pay or compensation for making Star Wars, he got complete spin-off, merchandising, and sequel rights in perpetuity. FOX would have the complete rights to distribute the actual "Star Wars" film itself.

Every time A New Hope is re-released, it's by FOX and LucasFilm jointly, because LFL can't release it on its own. Everything else is pure Lucas.

At the time, FOX thought it was an incredible deal, because they were getting the movie made without having to pay the director. They figured he might sell a few T-shirts or something, but movie merchandising and spinoff/sequel rights were just plain not highly regarded in the mid 70's.


Okay, that makes sense.

Has there been any update on Lucas' plan for a new live-action television series since the Disney deal. Judging by Disney's enthusiasm over a movie or two every year, I would think they would fast-track any television idea and put it on ABC.
 
2012-12-12 12:31:12 PM  
The worst thing about the holiday special is that it is longer than any of the movies. Someone needs to edit it into a decent 30 minute show.
 
2012-12-12 12:32:10 PM  

NeoCortex42: Has there been any update on Lucas' plan for a new live-action television series since the Disney deal. Judging by Disney's enthusiasm over a movie or two every year, I would think they would fast-track any television idea and put it on ABC.


Dude, it's been what, a month or so? It takes longer than that to get something moving. Even if there's word of something in the works, it takes time to get actual motion.

Personally, I doubt we'll hear much about much of anything resulting from the purchase until late next year.
 
2012-12-12 12:33:03 PM  

error 303: Mad_Radhu: PizzaJedi81: I'd dive into her Sarlacc Pit, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.

I'd hit her in the small thermal exhaust port, right below the main port.

That's impossible, even for a computer.


It's not impossible. I used to brown eye hood rats in my T-bird back home, they're not much sluttier than her.
 
2012-12-12 12:33:47 PM  

dragonchild: [imgs.xkcd.com image 631x590]

"You think it's so legendarily bad that you'll torrent it and sit through it just for the kitschy nerd cred. I, too, once thought as you did."
-XKCD


Phantom Menace?
 
2012-12-12 12:35:57 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: PizzaJedi81: if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.

I really wish you'd tell me what that means.

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[img443.imageshack.us image 321x482]

i couldnt decide which to use.


I'd use both, if ya know what I mean, and I think ya do.
 
2012-12-12 12:39:07 PM  

akula: NeoCortex42: Has there been any update on Lucas' plan for a new live-action television series since the Disney deal. Judging by Disney's enthusiasm over a movie or two every year, I would think they would fast-track any television idea and put it on ABC.

Dude, it's been what, a month or so? It takes longer than that to get something moving. Even if there's word of something in the works, it takes time to get actual motion.

Personally, I doubt we'll hear much about much of anything resulting from the purchase until late next year.


I'm not expecting an air-date for the premiere, or anything like that. I just figured with how vocal their plans have been for moving forward with the film series, they may have mentioned the television series since Lucas has been bringing it up periodically for the past couple of years.
 
2012-12-12 12:40:46 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: frepnog: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Welcome to Fark

oh my god. now imma have nightmares.

/thanks, dude, that was brilliant, and you owe me a keyboard.

I know. I was looking for one that I made when I came across that jewel. Sooo perfect

[img338.imageshack.us image 480x720]


I'd kiss her walking carpet, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.
 
2012-12-12 12:54:06 PM  
Yeah, yeah we've all heard how the Holiday Special is terrible and will never see the light of day, but what's this "Episode I?" There are only Episodes IV, V and VI.

I said THERE ARE ONLY EPISODES VI, V AND VI.
 
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