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(Salon)   A federal judged has banned North Carolina from issuing "Choose Life" license plates unless they offer a "Choose Death" alternative   (salon.com) divider line 285
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2012-12-12 01:05:31 PM  
Being pro-choice and living in Roanoke, VA, I don't think I'd put a "Respect Choice" plate on my car........unless I want a key or two dragged across the paint.
 
2012-12-12 01:06:03 PM  
Why is a state-run agency using tax money to express an opinion, anyway? It would be different if abortion were illegal in NC because at least then there'd be some kind of backup.

In before "it's totally an expression of the sanctity of life and the rejection of all violence against your fellow man, maaaaan"
 
2012-12-12 01:06:58 PM  

reillan: [www.oktax.state.ok.us image 340x162]

hope we're next...


Did they get an aborted fetus to design that plate?
 
2012-12-12 01:07:05 PM  

reillan: [www.oktax.state.ok.us image 340x162]

hope we're next...


I don't miss Oklahoma at all.

\all my Oklahoma family is just as liberal-minded as me
\\but they'd never in a million years advertise their opinions via their cars
\\\would lead to slashed tires and keyed paint jobs
 
2012-12-12 01:07:07 PM  

Diogenes: CapeFearCadaver: Diogenes: But one serious idea I had for a counter was "Choose Choice".

In NC, they had proposed "Respect Choice" as a counter opinion plate.

I'd rather not allow any of them, period. Put a bumper sticker on your car, State issued anything has no business pushing any side of this mess or any other hot-button topic.

Seriously. I'm not one for label activism in the first place. But making my car a target just seems stupid, beyond being a shallow expression.


You mean your shiatty Virginia driving habits don't already make you a target?

"Gah! Snow! Seek shelter in the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel, quick!!!"
 
2012-12-12 01:07:44 PM  

DubyaHater: Being pro-choice and living in Roanoke, VA, I don't think I'd put a "Respect Choice" plate on my car........unless I want a key or two dragged across the paint.


Yeah, I don't know why anyone would risk putting anything political on their car
. There are ignorant idiots of all political bents.
 
2012-12-12 01:08:00 PM  
"Choose Death" would be great. It's easier to work with than "Save The Planet: Kill Yourself."
 
2012-12-12 01:09:04 PM  

Sybarite: I think it's nice they want to support gay rights.

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It would be totally hilarious if some other group hijacked those plates... Like animal rights or gay rights or whatever... lol
 
2012-12-12 01:09:42 PM  

TwistedIvory


Choose life. But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life: I chose something else.


And the reasons?

There are no reasons.
 
2012-12-12 01:09:59 PM  
So I did some looking... Ohio has two Choose Life plates and no alternative. They are considered to be pro-adoption plates, not pro-life plates.

We also have the obligitory "In God We Trust" plate.
 
2012-12-12 01:10:57 PM  

Teknowaffle: [www.funnysigns.net image 400x269]

They already have that one in Va.


Hell yes. I wish I'd seen this one.

/from VA
//i think those 'kids first' plates are retarded...along with the little stickers they put to indicate how many minions they own.
 
2012-12-12 01:11:37 PM  

snocone: You people really have to quit putting these farks in office.
It has not worked and is getting less likely to work the more time dilutes the derp.


Hey, I voted for the other guy.

Seriously, we keep going back and forth between red and blue, the line is pretty thin here. Hopefully, in two years...
 
2012-12-12 01:11:40 PM  
So my choice is "or death"? I'll have the chicken then, please.

/taste of human, sir.
 
2012-12-12 01:12:06 PM  

sweetmelissa31: reillan: [www.oktax.state.ok.us image 340x162]

hope we're next...

Did they get an aborted fetus to design that plate?


Its nearly the same as the Mississippi one, designed by idiots....for idiots. You know they wont give it up unless the South is burnt to the ground again.

So pray for it to happen soon.

/Why yes I am currently in the South, why do you ask?
 
2012-12-12 01:13:44 PM  

Diogenes: God Is My Co-Pirate: Can I just say, as a feminist and mother, I'm still mildly annoyed they revoked that Eat The Kids First plate.

Yeah, I was thinking of a good counter proposal to the Choose Life plates we have here in FL. "Kill More Babies" seemed a bit too over the top. But I think your "Eat The Kids First" idea has legs. Delicious, tender, young legs.

But one serious idea I had for a counter was "Choose Choice".


How is the phrase Choose Life not pro-choice?
 
2012-12-12 01:13:53 PM  

TwistedIvory: Choose life. But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life: I chose something else.


But you still have made a choice.
 
2012-12-12 01:13:54 PM  

Diogenes: CapeFearCadaver: Diogenes: But one serious idea I had for a counter was "Choose Choice".

In NC, they had proposed "Respect Choice" as a counter opinion plate.

I'd rather not allow any of them, period. Put a bumper sticker on your car, State issued anything has no business pushing any side of this mess or any other hot-button topic.

Seriously. I'm not one for label activism in the first place. But making my car a target just seems stupid, beyond being a shallow expression.


I mostly agree (don't even have bumper stickers for that reason) but NY has had a couple of basically neutral plates I liked - one for the Lilac festival (Rochester influenced, LOVE that festival) and I think there was one with a bird or something where the money went to wetlands conservation. IIRC there's also one with a sailboat but I think it's just something for the people who like boating, as I don't recall any special significance.
 
2012-12-12 01:14:05 PM  

jst3p: DubyaHater: Being pro-choice and living in Roanoke, VA, I don't think I'd put a "Respect Choice" plate on my car........unless I want a key or two dragged across the paint.

Yeah, I don't know why anyone would risk putting anything political on their car
. There are ignorant idiots of all political bents.


I put my first and only bumper sticker on my car for this election: 'Vote No' (against the MN constitutional amendment duplicating the opposite-gender marriage law). I think one factor in the amendment's surprising defeat was the groundswell of Vote No signs and bumper stickers across the state, especially in cities. We dwarfed the other side and visibility helps. I took the bumper stick off the Thursday after the election.
 
2012-12-12 01:14:05 PM  
cdn.motinetwork.net
 
2012-12-12 01:14:37 PM  

AngryTeacher: So I did some looking... Ohio has two Choose Life plates and no alternative. They are considered to be pro-adoption plates, not pro-life plates.

We also have the obligitory "In God We Trust" plate.


Colorado has the "Respect life" but they aren't meant to be pro-life. Super double pinky swear!

www.larryslicenseplates.com

Columbine Plate

This plate memorializing the victims and survivors of the 1999 shooting at Columbine High School is currently one of the most popular in the state. It features a columbine flower (the state flower) and the phrase "Respect Life" on a detailed mountain backdrop. There is a one-time fee of $50 for the plate, in addition to standard registration and license fees.


/pretty good front actually.
 
2012-12-12 01:14:56 PM  
I propose "Choose Cake"

/not obscure
 
2012-12-12 01:15:14 PM  

DubyaHater: Being pro-choice and living in Roanoke, VA, I don't think I'd put a "Respect Choice" plate on my car........unless I want a key or two dragged across the paint.


Every time my car gets keyed I key two pro-life cars. That'll teach 'em.
 
2012-12-12 01:15:30 PM  
Don't they understand that the only thing that should go on your state issued license plate is the college you attended, the military branch you served in, and the fact you support shelter animals/breast cancer/girl scouts/state parks, or the local professional sports team?
 
2012-12-12 01:15:34 PM  
Use Rubbers!
 
2012-12-12 01:15:39 PM  
I'm just gladdened that these fine people have the courage and conviction to use the time and resources necessary to fight this. All the way to the Supreme Court, presumedly.
 
2012-12-12 01:15:57 PM  

Lumpmoose: If the pro-life side used their time, resources and spiritual clout to convince people to choose adoption, promote women's health and educate about contraceptives--rather than merely attempt to ban abortion--they'd prevent many, MANY more abortions than they are now. Under that scenario, a "Choose Life" slogan would be honest and respectable.


Bonus: The anti-choicers are often against adoption (those poor kids might be given to a dirty gay person, or worse, two dirty gay people) and always against health care (so many socialisms) and contraception (it's abstinence or nothing!). I really have no idea where they expect all these extra children to go. Soylent Green factories, perhaps?

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//I know that you know this already, just biatching for the sake of biatching.
 
2012-12-12 01:17:00 PM  

Rufus Lee King: "This is a great victory for the free speech rights of all North Carolinians.", said Chris Brook of the ACLU.

Really? How does that follow? People have the right to free expression until someone says something that you don't agree with?

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I imagine it has something to do with the government officially sponsoring/funding/manufacturing only one particular viewpoint of a contentious issue. The first amendment is aimed at legislators after all.
 
2012-12-12 01:17:43 PM  

jst3p: neritz: [i191.photobucket.com image 191x263]

Is that a real thing? If so it is kinda awesome.


Very. I saw one just the other day.
 
2012-12-12 01:18:21 PM  

Generation_D: [img.youtube.com image 480x360]


looking for this.
 
2012-12-12 01:19:26 PM  

FizixJunkee: Abortion statistics:

" If current rates continue, it is estimated that 35% of all women of reproductive age in America today will have had an abortion by the time they reach the age of 45.3"

and

"Women who obtain abortions represent every religious affiliation. 13% of abortion patients describe themselves as born-again or Evangelical Christians; while 22% of U.S. women are Catholic, 27% of abortion patients say they are Catholics."


That's a lot of voters to piss off. (Not to mention their husbands and boyfriends who are likely relieved that abortion was a legal option,)
 
2012-12-12 01:19:27 PM  

Pincy: DubyaHater: Being pro-choice and living in Roanoke, VA, I don't think I'd put a "Respect Choice" plate on my car........unless I want a key or two dragged across the paint.

Every time my car gets keyed I key two pro-life cars. That'll teach 'em.


I would just get my girlfriend pregnant, get an ultrasound, take her to the abortion clinic and then write letters letting all the local churches know what we did and include a copy of the ultrasound with the caption "This is YOUR fault!"
 
2012-12-12 01:19:44 PM  

Rufus Lee King: "This is a great victory for the free speech rights of all North Carolinians.", said Chris Brook of the ACLU.

Really? How does that follow? People have the right to free expression until someone says something that you don't agree with?

[www.anunews.net image 300x262]


Not exactly. The "someone" in this context is "the state government," which is not a "someone" at all.
 
2012-12-12 01:20:56 PM  
i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-12 01:21:22 PM  
I would so get one! And it would be a vanity plate.

Simply: B4DISCO
 
2012-12-12 01:21:44 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Lumpmoose: If the pro-life side used their time, resources and spiritual clout to convince people to choose adoption, promote women's health and educate about contraceptives--rather than merely attempt to ban abortion--they'd prevent many, MANY more abortions than they are now. Under that scenario, a "Choose Life" slogan would be honest and respectable.

Bonus: The anti-choicers are often against adoption (those poor kids might be given to a dirty gay person, or worse, two dirty gay people) and always against health care (so many socialisms) and contraception (it's abstinence or nothing!). I really have no idea where they expect all these extra children to go. Soylent Green factories, perhaps?

/[george_carlin.jpg]
//I know that you know this already, just biatching for the sake of biatching.


why not add a little vitriol:

the single greatest killer of unborn babies is the abstinence only movement.
 
2012-12-12 01:21:54 PM  
We went through this in Georgia recently. It all started with a license plate redesign that included a space for a phrase. Of course as soon as you do that every special interest group wants a taste.

I never thought I would be nostalgic for the days when a license plate just had your license plate number on it. It's not a t-shirt with a snarky saying on it.
 
2012-12-12 01:22:52 PM  
Virginia has a 'Trust Women' pro-choice plate. I thought it was nice, kind of like saying "It's okay, guys, I have a uterus and I know what I'm doing here, if I can be a good mom, I'll have the kid, but if not, you have to trust me. I've got this one."

Of course, being a contentious issue, I was hesitant. Sure, I know how to buff out a scratch, but you can only fix paint so many times.

But then I saw that they had one with a kitty and a doggie on it that benefits animal shelters, so that's what I wound up picking for the station wagon, my husband chose one of the general-aviation ones with an airplane on it for the coupe and the minivan got an alumni-association plate with our college logo. Nobody objects to animals, airplanes or to your alumni plate (unless you went to Penn State, which we didn't, and that's kind of blown over...or Duke...) and if I really need street cred at some kind of vehicular abortion debate, I can always impale a foam-rubber fetus on the antenna I fixed with a coat hanger and carry on about my day.
 
2012-12-12 01:24:18 PM  
weblogs.baltimoresun.com
 
2012-12-12 01:25:51 PM  

whither_apophis: I will choose free will


It is a path that's clear.
 
2012-12-12 01:26:41 PM  
So, in my state we have pro cop plates.
What would my alternative there be?
 
2012-12-12 01:27:04 PM  

Rufus Lee King: "This is a great victory for the free speech rights of all North Carolinians.", said Chris Brook of the ACLU.

Really? How does that follow? People have the right to free expression until someone says something that you don't agree with?


I like how people with a conservative christian point of view think that "free speech" means the right to make the government espouse their own particular worldview. It's really neither a conservative nor a christian opinion.

You can have a point of view without also making the government all the time parrot that point of view. (Or maybe you so lack confidence in your own beliefs that they will wither away and die if you can't force the government to put them on a license plate: "I was going to keep that baby, but the slogan on my license plate is content neutral, so I aborted it.").
 
2012-12-12 01:27:42 PM  
Abortions for some
JKLN 891
Miniature american flags for others
 
2012-12-12 01:28:14 PM  
The crackpot liberal freeloaders are more than happy to take away someone else's free speech rights.

It is long past time we re-establish free religious speech in this country. In church. In schools. In public. The liberals have been chipping away at this basic human right for years and now we've reached this ridiculous and sad point. Free speech for them, government censored speech for anyone else.

Demand your basic free speech rights!

Stand up in your church and call out crooked politicians by name. Wear anti-abortion and scripture related clothing to your school and in public. This is your fundamental, constitutionally protected, basic human right and it must not be abridged by these extremist liberal crackpots.
 
2012-12-12 01:29:18 PM  

snocone: radiovox: If only there was some other way to display your socio-political beliefs on the back of your car. Maybe strips of paper with adhesive on one side and written messages on the other. Let's get on that Farkers!

BUt would it not be more politically incorrect/correct(hell, I can't keep track) to have the public pay for it?


Actually, you bring up a good point. I have a specialty plate on my car but I had to pay an extra $30 for it. I'm sure there is some kind of up front cost to the tax payer but wouldn't the revenue generated from the sale of those plates offset all that?

I'm curious because it would be a good argument point for one side of the debate and I really haven't taken a side.
 
2012-12-12 01:29:22 PM  
The important thing is that we engage in all our profound national culture debates via pithy slogans on bumper stickers and license plates. As long as we still do that, I'm cool.
 
2012-12-12 01:29:46 PM  

BunkoSquad: I want a "Choose The Form of Your Destructor" license plate.

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Empty your heads. Don't think of anything. We've only got one shot at this.
 
2012-12-12 01:30:47 PM  
I know others have said this, but isn't "Choose Life" a pro-choice statement? I think a pro-life statement would have to be something like "Force Life"?
 
2012-12-12 01:30:52 PM  
Pffft....If I'm going to pay extra for a license plate, I'll stick to things that are really important like Hockey.

www.mass.gov
 
2012-12-12 01:32:00 PM  

drxym: The stupid part is "pro-choice" is not "pro-death"


This!
Many years ago I was dining out with a friend and a woman was going table to tale with pamphlets depicting abortions. my friend handed the pamphlet back to the woman an said she'll have the Tar Tar.
 
2012-12-12 01:32:42 PM  

kid_icarus: Lumpmoose: But they'd rather control the sex lives of women, so here we are.

"Choose Life!"

Your choices are:

A. Life
B. Jail

C. Death.
D. Snu-snu.
 
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