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2012-12-12 11:12:35 AM
Because Fleetwood Mac sucks?
 
2012-12-12 11:43:32 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Because Fleetwood Mac sucks?


Really??

I can see not being into them. I can certainly see not being interested in their current incarnation as Christine MacVie isn't involved (I fall into that category), or simply because they are 30 years past their prime.

But claiming they suck? Rumors was one of the greatest albums ever recorded. Its a perfect album. Even if you don't like them you have to acknowledge their importance to music.
 
2012-12-12 11:46:07 AM
For example, I don't like Bruce Springsteen, but even though it isn't my cup of tea, I still acknowledge that Born to Run is one of the most important albums ever recorded in modern contemporary music.
 
2012-12-12 11:47:54 AM

gilgigamesh: Rumors was one of the greatest albums ever recorded. It's a perfect album. Even if you don't like them you have to acknowledge their importance to music.


This sentence is 100% accurate.

gilgigamesh: Born to Run is one of the most important albums ever recorded in modern contemporary music.


As is this.
 
2012-12-12 12:31:53 PM
The Gettysburg Address was important too but nobody is asking Abraham Lincoln to come speak at Glastonbury.

/likes Fleetwood Mac
 
2012-12-12 12:36:30 PM
Unless Christine McVie rejoins the band, it's not really Fleetwood Mac
 
2012-12-12 12:50:21 PM
Oh well
 
2012-12-12 12:52:02 PM
What gilgigamesh said.


/Do not like Fleetwood Mac
//Do not think they suck
 
2012-12-12 12:57:48 PM

Snapper Carr: Unless Christine McVie Peter Green / Dave Mason rejoins the band, it's not really Fleetwood Mac


FTFY
 
2012-12-12 01:20:25 PM

gilgigamesh: For example, I don't like Bruce Springsteen, but even though it isn't my cup of tea, I still acknowledge that Born to Run is one of the most important albums ever recorded in modern contemporary music.


Hey!


I still acknowledge that Born to Run is one of the most important albums ever recorded in modern contemporary music

Fair enough.
 
2012-12-12 01:36:57 PM

gilgigamesh: Born to Run is one of the most important albums ever recorded in modern contemporary music.


How? Why? I'm serious. I love his music. I'm just interested in knowing what the unbiased dynamics are that justify this assertion.
 
2012-12-12 01:43:57 PM
Because flying the entire USC marching band in for Tusk is too expensive.
 
2012-12-12 01:58:06 PM

Anderson's Pooper: Because flying the entire USC marching band in for Tusk is too expensive.


Beat me to it.
 
2012-12-12 02:01:44 PM
Actually, as long as Mick Fleetwood and John McVie are present, it IS Fleetwood Mac. However, it would be beyond cool if they appeared and could convince Christine to join them just for that one concert.

Moot point for me; not in the UK.
 
2012-12-12 02:09:39 PM

stupiddream: Snapper Carr: Unless Christine McVie Peter Green / Dave Mason rejoins the band, it's not really Fleetwood Mac

FTFY


Huh? Peter Green I can understand - even if he only appeared on 3 albums (it's still like discounting everything Floyd did after Saucer Full of Secrets because they kicked Syd out of the band), but Dave Mason? He only played on one album in the 90's.

Christine McVie on the other hand has been around since the 2nd album and every single album since.
 
2012-12-12 02:24:19 PM

Snapper Carr: stupiddream: Snapper Carr: Unless Christine McVie Peter Green / Dave Mason rejoins the band, it's not really Fleetwood Mac

FTFY

Huh? Peter Green I can understand - even if he only appeared on 3 albums (it's still like discounting everything Floyd did after Saucer Full of Secrets because they kicked Syd out of the band), but Dave Mason? He only played on one album in the 90's.

Christine McVie on the other hand has been around since the 2nd album and every single album since.


My bad. I meant Bob Welch. And for the record I like the Buckingham / Nicks version. Also, I tend to think of post Syd and with Syd as two different bands with post Syd era ending with The Final Cut and becoming yet another band after that.
 
2012-12-12 02:31:19 PM

unfarkingbelievable: gilgigamesh: Born to Run is one of the most important albums ever recorded in modern contemporary music.

How? Why? I'm serious. I love his music. I'm just interested in knowing what the unbiased dynamics are that justify this assertion.


I'm not going to appeal to authority, but I will point out that it has made several "Top 500 albums ever" list.

But my main reason for asserting it is simple: influence. It changed the direction of popular music, bringing about an era of "Americana" style that sounded the death-knell of British invasion style that had dominated the previous decade.

It brought back the sax, as opposed to guitar, as a lead instrument in rock; something that disappeared completely since the days of early black R&B groups of the 50s.

It established Springsteen as a legend, and influenced countless musicians over the last 35-odd years. That's for starters.
 
2012-12-12 02:31:53 PM

stupiddream: Snapper Carr: stupiddream: Snapper Carr: Unless Christine McVie Peter Green / Dave Mason rejoins the band, it's not really Fleetwood Mac

FTFY

Huh? Peter Green I can understand - even if he only appeared on 3 albums (it's still like discounting everything Floyd did after Saucer Full of Secrets because they kicked Syd out of the band), but Dave Mason? He only played on one album in the 90's.

Christine McVie on the other hand has been around since the 2nd album and every single album since.

My bad. I meant Bob Welch. .


Bob's not here, man.
 
2012-12-12 02:32:47 PM

stupiddream: My bad. I meant Bob Welch.


Good luck getting him back in the band.
 
2012-12-12 02:36:09 PM
And that is an unbiased assessment: as I said, I have no love for Springsteen.
 
2012-12-12 02:36:11 PM

stupiddream: Snapper Carr: Unless Christine McVie Peter Green / Dave Mason rejoins the band, it's not really Fleetwood Mac

FTFY


This.

/luvs me sum Rattlesnake Shake
 
2012-12-12 04:09:20 PM

gilgigamesh: unfarkingbelievable: gilgigamesh: Born to Run is one of the most important albums ever recorded in modern contemporary music.

How? Why? I'm serious. I love his music. I'm just interested in knowing what the unbiased dynamics are that justify this assertion.

I'm not going to appeal to authority, but I will point out that it has made several "Top 500 albums ever" list.

But my main reason for asserting it is simple: influence. It changed the direction of popular music, bringing about an era of "Americana" style that sounded the death-knell of British invasion style that had dominated the previous decade.

It brought back the sax, as opposed to guitar, as a lead instrument in rock; something that disappeared completely since the days of early black R&B groups of the 50s.

It established Springsteen as a legend, and influenced countless musicians over the last 35-odd years. That's for starters.


Absolutely perfect -- what I was looking for. Like I said in another thread today, I do like to snark on Fark, but I also really do like to learn too. And no doubt about it, farkers/farkettes are quite the intelligent lot. So -- thanks for your response.
 
2012-12-12 04:33:43 PM
I've seen Fleetwood Mac live within the past six years or so. They were amazing, and I only went because I got free box seats. Maybe not everybody's cup of tea, but they've got to be more interesting than the majority of pop bands that have been headlining the festival lately. Coldplay and Beyonce?
 
2012-12-12 06:43:43 PM
Mmmmmmmm..........Rumors
 
2012-12-12 08:20:50 PM

gilgigamesh: It brought back the sax, as opposed to guitar, as a lead instrument in rock; something that disappeared completely since the days of early black R&B groups of the 50s.


1.bp.blogspot.com

userserve-ak.last.fm

Disagree.
 
2012-12-12 08:30:24 PM

puckrock2000: gilgigamesh: It brought back the sax, as opposed to guitar, as a lead instrument in rock; something that disappeared completely since the days of early black R&B groups of the 50s.





Disagree.


Yeah, pretty sure giglamesh is under 40. Bowie used saxophone extensively on Young Americans, which precedes Born To Run by 2 or 3 years.
 
2012-12-13 12:17:46 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Because Fleetwood Mac sucks?


You have proven time and time again that your opinions are worthless. This thread is no different.
 
2012-12-13 02:18:32 AM
Meatwood Flack. Any relation to Roberta?
 
2012-12-13 09:50:49 AM

unfarkingbelievable: stupiddream: Snapper Carr: stupiddream: Snapper Carr: Unless Christine McVie Peter Green / Dave Mason rejoins the band, it's not really Fleetwood Mac

FTFY

Huh? Peter Green I can understand - even if he only appeared on 3 albums (it's still like discounting everything Floyd did after Saucer Full of Secrets because they kicked Syd out of the band), but Dave Mason? He only played on one album in the 90's.

Christine McVie on the other hand has been around since the 2nd album and every single album since.

My bad. I meant Bob Welch. .

Bob's not here, man.


Neither is Bob Weston, who gave the band its signature sound for the two albums that kept the band alive while Fleetwood and McVie were drinking themselves into a stupor. However, their abuse problems allowed Christine to sneak a few songs into the playlist and prove she was a great songwriter.

Meanwhile, Welch was keeping the band together musically and legally, organizing tours and firing the manager who promoted the fake Fleetwood Mac. He also tried to keep Danny Kirwan vertical long enough to play a tour and when Kirwan finally went around the bend, hired Weston. I saw the '73 tour and that was a GREAT band. Even though Christine was clearly uncomfortable with her new role, she had a wonderful voice and her songwriting style was a good complement to Welch's. Plus she had a really nice bum.

Here's "Miles Away" and "Believe Me" from that tour. Check out Weston's guitar, a P90 pickup between the Humbuckers.
 
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