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2012-12-12 10:49:38 AM

IrateShadow: The risk-takers that are so brave they're refusing to hire people because of "uncertainty."


or cutting hours for the workers because its so risky now.
 
2012-12-12 10:54:42 AM

Millennium: Frankly, he's right. Liberals in general have been disturbingly successful in twisting the popular definition of compassion to convince people that conservatives are not compassionate at all: a key tactic in branding conservatives as the villains of the world. Un-twisting that definition will be vital to retaining what power conservatism still has, with an eventual eye toward rebuilding.


What you would have said 150 years ago....
Frankly, he's right. Slaves in general have been disturbingly successful in twisting the popular definition of compassion to convince people that slave owners are not compassionate at all (When in fact we've taken them out of the jungle, provided for them food, shelter and religion, what more could they ask): a key tactic in branding slave owners as the villains of the world. Un-twisting that definition will be vital to retaining what power slavery still has, with an eventual eye toward rebuilding.
 
2012-12-12 10:55:13 AM
Paul Ryan: "Do you guys even lift?"
 
2012-12-12 10:58:21 AM

rev. dave: Republicans have effectively fooled millions of people with their elaborate dance that says they care about people other than their rich friends. This with the hope that as fewer people are financially able to oppose them, they turn work into wage slavery for more people so they are too busy to vote against them next time. The numbers are against them so they need an elaborate scheme to prevent the poor from voting.


They have. It's called felony convictions for possession of small amounts of drugs, where if you are a poor person (or more likely, a poor minority) you are much more likely to end with a conviction than if you are well off and able to afford a lawyer, and/or have connections.
 
2012-12-12 11:00:33 AM

Millennium: Frankly, he's right. Liberals in general have been disturbingly successful in twisting the popular definition of compassion to convince people that conservatives are not compassionate at all: a key tactic in branding conservatives as the villains of the world. Un-twisting that definition will be vital to retaining what power conservatism still has, with an eventual eye toward rebuilding.


The reason for the misconception in the first place is that the GOP has tricked everyone into conflating them with "conservative" even though the two haven't had a damned thing to do with each other since the '80s at the very latest.

If the GOP would stop incorrectly using the word, we'd stop thinking that conservatives were the villains of the world.
 
2012-12-12 11:02:44 AM
href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7482141/81233498#c81233498" target="_blank">odinsposse: When Republicans plainly explained their beliefs about rape and abortion they were soundly thrashed in elections. When that happens the problem isn't that you said things the wrong way the problem is that your beliefs are wrong and people hate them. Bring you beliefs more in line with reality and you won't have to play word games to get people to vote for you. They will vote for you because they like your beliefs.

So. Much. This.
 
2012-12-12 11:03:00 AM
Yeesh, these guys still don't get it. Hard to argue compassion when you're anti-gay, anti-science, and anti-immigration.

Here's a clue asswipes. There's a counter to the Democratic party and it isn't being MORE socially conservative. It's being a party of personal responsibility and smaller government. Since it's apparent that the GOP leadership believes in neither of those old-school GOP principles...you'll get your asses handed to you again in 2014.
 
2012-12-12 11:12:34 AM

Millennium: Frankly, he's right. Liberals in general have been disturbingly successful in twisting the popular definition of compassion to convince people that conservatives are not compassionate at all: a key tactic in branding conservatives as the villains of the world. Un-twisting that definition will be vital to retaining what power conservatism still has, with an eventual eye toward rebuilding.


So you're saying that our understanding of compassion is somehow ....



skewed?

/Bravo.
 
2012-12-12 11:17:04 AM
The thing is, they don't see themselves as uncompassionate. You can't really feel that you are a good person if you don't think that the policies you want to enact will create more good than harm to society. They see dismantling the social safety net as if they were mother birds pushing chicks out of the nest. They see lack of social mobility as not a problem the government needs to intervene to fix but rather a symptom of the government encouraging laziness as an alternative livestyle to working. Necessity is the mother of invention: they legitimately believe that without government subsidizing those who do not achieve greatness the weak and lazy will step up and self-actualize, and they will begin teaching their children the value of hard work and eliminate poverty. They believe that this sort of "School of Hard Knocks" approach will make these people better and happier in the long run, whereas the welfare state mentality is both hateful (in that those who believe government must intervene believe the poor to be inherently inferior and unable to succeed, betraying a contempt for the poor) and ultimately consigns those who fall for the lure of easy living to a meaningless and depressing existence.

They believe all of this is true. The question is whether it is actually because the evidence points to this or if it is an easy out to relieve themselves of the cognative dissonance of feeling that they are good people who obey the rules of loving thy neighbors and caring for the poor while at the same time feeling so angry when they see people getting things that they have not earned.
 
2012-12-12 11:17:38 AM

Spanky_McFarksalot: fark that douchebag, he's made a career out of trying to screw the poor over so the 1% could buy another toy.


The sad fact is that the 1% doesn't even bother to spend money to buy another toy. The 1% decides after being gifted another freebie tax break, to keep the money and demand discounts and other cuts for their toys. Or do you think that a 1%'er actually pays retail for that Lamborghini or that yacht? I have no doubt that they demand at least a 30% drop in price from MSRP, plus the selling company eat the sales tax and perhaps even the commission. Well, actually, I think the 0.01%'ers do that the other 0.9%'ers would pay the commission.
 
2012-12-12 11:26:06 AM
Republican generosity is based on the sound principles of Macchiavelli. Thing is, they don't regard the middle and *shudder* lower classes "subjects" to be governed so much as "resources" to be exploited.

"And of that which is neither yours nor your subjects' you can be a ready giver, as were Cyrus, Caesar, and Alexander; because it does not take away your reputation if you squander that of others, but adds to it; it is only squandering your own that injures you."
- The Prince, Chapter XVI

The Democrats, of course, do consider the lower and middle classes subjects, but don't mind squandering their own as well as that of others.

Bottom line is, no matter who's in charge, they want your stuff.
 
2012-12-12 11:34:33 AM

Dr Dreidel: Jesus tittyfarking Christ on a frozen Thin Mint in August

How many more stories about the Rubio/Ryan "new future of the GOP" remarks at the Jack Kemp dinner do we need? We get it, they're going to have to "message" better; they don't realize that it's not the packaging we don't like, it's the product.

Do we need 9 more stories breathlessly coronating Marco Rubio as the Future of the GOP's Immigration Policy?
Do we need 9 more stories detailing the differences between Campaign Ryan and Jack Kemp dinner Ryan?
Do we need 9 more stories about how nothing is ideologically shifting or realigning in the party, it's just rearranging the deck chairs on the GOP's Failtanic?


Ooo. Good opening. Me likey.

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/shucky ducky!
 
2012-12-12 11:41:21 AM

Diogenes: 2wolves: Mr. Ryan is running already?

How do you think he finishes marathons in record times?


by making numbers up?
 
2012-12-12 11:42:27 AM
What is this, I don't even...

/hahahahahahahahahahahehehehehehehehe hehohohohoho
 
2012-12-12 11:52:28 AM
I wish I could find the picture of the homeless man sleeping outside in front of a Romney headquarters.
 
2012-12-12 12:15:13 PM

Citrate1007: I wish I could find the picture of the homeless man sleeping outside in front of a Romney headquarters.


There's this website called, "Google" , you should check it out.

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-12 12:23:45 PM

Dr Dreidel: Jesus tittyfarking Christ on a frozen Thin Mint in August

How many more stories about the Rubio/Ryan "new future of the GOP" remarks at the Jack Kemp dinner do we need? We get it, they're going to have to "message" better; they don't realize that it's not the packaging we don't like, it's the product.

Do we need 9 more stories breathlessly coronating Marco Rubio as the Future of the GOP's Immigration Policy?
Do we need 9 more stories detailing the differences between Campaign Ryan and Jack Kemp dinner Ryan?
Do we need 9 more stories about how nothing is ideologically shifting or realigning in the party, it's just rearranging the deck chairs on the GOP's Failtanic?


And Lo, there was only enough actual news for one greenlit thread, but threads about that selfsame event were greenlit for eight days and eight nights.

/the ninth is just for helping the other eight.
 
2012-12-12 12:28:45 PM

nmrsnr: And Lo, there was only enough actual news for one greenlit thread, but threads about that selfsame event were greenlit for eight days and eight nights.


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2012-12-12 12:32:55 PM

Maud Dib: Citrate1007: I wish I could find the picture of the homeless man sleeping outside in front of a Romney headquarters.

There's this website called, "Google" , you should check it out.

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The wonderful thing about the internet is that there are always people less lazy than me :D
 
2012-12-12 12:39:09 PM
It's like they ripped off their disguises after thinking the Tea Party was going to win them landslide after landslide and now that they've been proven empirically incorrect, the genie won't go back in the bottle. They can't start even PRETENDING to care again.
 
2012-12-12 01:04:06 PM
media.theweek.com

Have a coupon, grandma. 'Compassionate' my Aunt Fannie.
 
2012-12-12 01:04:25 PM
Paul who?
 
2012-12-12 01:14:55 PM

Dr Dreidel: Jesus tittyfarking Christ on a frozen Thin Mint in August

How many more stories about the Rubio/Ryan "new future of the GOP" remarks at the Jack Kemp dinner do we need? We get it, they're going to have to "message" better; they don't realize that it's not the packaging we don't like, it's the product.

Do we need 9 more stories breathlessly coronating Marco Rubio as the Future of the GOP's Immigration Policy?
Do we need 9 more stories detailing the differences between Campaign Ryan and Jack Kemp dinner Ryan?
Do we need 9 more stories about how nothing is ideologically shifting or realigning in the party, it's just rearranging the deck chairs on the GOP's Failtanic?


You leave Thin Mints out of this. I don't want the apex cookie associated with these derpers.
 
2012-12-12 01:26:25 PM
He is right; how does one suggest self-deportation in a nicer way?
 
2012-12-12 01:26:37 PM
"As it stands, our party excels at representing the aspirations of our nation's risk-takers,"

Yeah, right. My GF would love to take a risk and start her own business but if the GOP had their way she wouldn't be able to get health insurance due to her pre-existing condition.
 
2012-12-12 01:28:33 PM
And there it is towards the end of the article, "But, but private charity." Yeah. Yeah. Private charity is the paragon of altruism, excepting privately owned businesses, as corporate welfare is clearly best welfare. This exhibits compassion of extraordinary magnitude toward those who are obviously in greatest need.
 
2012-12-12 01:30:52 PM

monoski: He is right; how does one suggest self-deportation in a nicer way?


"Release the hounds!" ?
 
2012-12-12 01:45:56 PM

monoski: He is right; how does one suggest self-deportation in a nicer way?


"Really, Sir/Madam... Wouldn't you rather have authentic Mexican cuisine in an authentic setting like, oh Mexico City or Guadalajara?"
 
2012-12-12 01:52:06 PM

Wadded Beef: "As it stands, our party excels at representing the aspirations of our nation's risk-takers,"

Yeah, right. My GF would love to take a risk and start her own business but if the GOP had their way she wouldn't be able to get health insurance due to her pre-existing condition.


I hear ya. We wanted to take a risk and buy an existing business (we had the backing of a USDA 80% guaranteed loan for rural small businesses) but the bank refused to entertain financing - they wanted cash on the barrel. The bank, btw, had not only gotten billions in bailout funds but had been contracted to administer bailout funds to other institutions. The property sold to a billionaire to become his private playground, and 30+ people who'd been employed there lost their jobs.

"Job Creators" my ass. How can anyone still say that with a straight face?
 
2012-12-12 01:55:49 PM

Famous Thamas: Dr Dreidel: Jesus tittyfarking Christ on a frozen Thin Mint in August

How many more stories about the Rubio/Ryan "new future of the GOP" remarks at the Jack Kemp dinner do we need? We get it, they're going to have to "message" better; they don't realize that it's not the packaging we don't like, it's the product.

Do we need 9 more stories breathlessly coronating Marco Rubio as the Future of the GOP's Immigration Policy?
Do we need 9 more stories detailing the differences between Campaign Ryan and Jack Kemp dinner Ryan?
Do we need 9 more stories about how nothing is ideologically shifting or realigning in the party, it's just rearranging the deck chairs on the GOP's Failtanic?

You leave Thin Mints out of this. I don't want the apex cookie associated with these derpers.


Now, I like a frozen Thin Mint as much as the next red-blooded American, and my views on tittyfarking have been screamed from inside many a bedroom. It was not my intention to impugn either of these great American inventions, nor to mar their stellar records with an association to Rubio, Ryan, Jack Kemp, dinner, politics or the GOP in general.

I throw myself on the mercy of the court.
 
2012-12-12 02:30:15 PM

Raharu: EyeballKid: Even to those scary "urban" voters?

Do you mean the blah ones?


i706.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-12 02:36:29 PM

keylock71: monoski: He is right; how does one suggest self-deportation in a nicer way?

"Really, Sir/Madam... Wouldn't you rather have authentic Mexican cuisine in an authentic setting like, oh Mexico City or Guadalajara?"


Follow up for women; Focus on the opportunity to work and not the paycheck being 30% light
 
2012-12-12 04:00:00 PM

Millennium: Frankly, he's right. Liberals in general have been disturbingly successful in twisting the popular definition of compassion to convince people that conservatives are not compassionate at all: a key tactic in branding conservatives as the villains of the world. Un-twisting that definition will be vital to retaining what power conservatism still has, with an eventual eye toward rebuilding.


Sorry, bub. Everything worth saving in American conservatism is already in the Democratic Party platform.

/former Republican
 
2012-12-12 04:55:56 PM

Citrate1007: More staged photo ops of pretending to volunteer at a soup kitchen?


No, no, no. He learned his lesson. Now he's going to volunteer like he's running a marathon.
 
2012-12-12 04:58:35 PM
Paul Ryan: The GOP needs to get better at lying.
 
2012-12-12 05:00:15 PM
I just saw a Republican/Tea Party commercial (on Science Channel, no less) urging Republicans to turn against the Republicans in the House and Senate who had the unmitigated gall to agree with Obama and his "socialist tax increase", stating "We got them their jobs in 2010, and we can fire them in 2014!" and basically telling Republicans to threaten any Republican who doesn't fall in step with blindly hating Obama and fixing the country.

Yeah, GOP, you're really showing compassion and intelligence. Keep it up and maybe you'll die sooner than later.
 
2012-12-13 12:14:00 AM
Spanky_McFarksalot: fark that douchebag, he's made a career out of trying to screw the poor over so the 1% could buy another toy.

FARK this a hole...... you know what he says behind closed doors !!!
Cant be good for the working people !!!
 
2012-12-13 01:04:39 AM

Rann Xerox: Paul Ryan hopes that his wife never finds the blowup doll that he has stashed under a couple of floorboards in the bedroom closet. The blowup doll that bears a remarkable resemblance to Ayn Rand.


That blow up doll is his wife.
 
2012-12-13 01:07:50 AM

Millennium: Frankly, he's right. Liberals Republicans in general have been disturbingly successful in twisting the popular definition of compassion to convince convincing people that conservatives are not compassionate at all: a key tactic in branding conservatives as the villains of the world. Un-twisting that definition will be vital to retaining what power conservatism still has, with an eventual eye toward rebuilding.

 
2012-12-13 01:10:35 AM

EyeballKid: Millennium: Frankly, he's right. Liberals in general have been disturbingly successful in twisting the popular definition of compassion to convince people that conservatives are not compassionate at all: a key tactic in branding conservatives as the villains of the world. Un-twisting that definition will be vital to retaining what power conservatism still has, with an eventual eye toward rebuilding.

farm4.static.flickr.com


What a "compassionate conservative" looks like. Good luck polishing that turd.


Is that what I think it is? (George W. Dylan)
 
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