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2012-12-12 09:38:06 AM  
Meh, they should just you this:

www.chicagoparent.com
 
2012-12-12 09:38:28 AM  
FTFA: "You know, as we continue to tighten the border more and more, they'll find every method they can explore to get their drug loads over," said Agent K. Linwood Estes of the Border Patrol.

It's almost like building a fence won't change the economic incentives that drive much of the illegal cross-border trade.
 
2012-12-12 09:38:30 AM  
Cannons are noisy. Should have used a trebuchet.
 
2012-12-12 09:38:41 AM  

blatz514: Meh, they should just you this:

[www.chicagoparent.com image 500x375]


You=use

/moar coffee
 
2012-12-12 09:39:18 AM  
Can we please just hurry the fark up and legalize it so that we have legitimate companies growing, selling, and producing pot-based products instead of organized crime who are turning the Northern Mexican border into a war zone?
 
2012-12-12 09:40:28 AM  
That weed is the bomb!
 
2012-12-12 09:40:47 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: FTFA: "You know, as we continue to tighten the border more and more, they'll find every method they can explore to get their drug loads over," said Agent K. Linwood Estes of the Border Patrol.

It's almost like building a fence won't change the economic incentives that drive much of the illegal cross-border trade.


Yeah. When you can sell a product for literally 1,000 times its production cost, you're going to get REALLY inventive as to how to distribute it.
 
2012-12-12 09:40:49 AM  
That's a pretty slick idea. Potentially more distance than a trebuchet. Stash a radio tracking collar or some other easily available locating device on the canister, and you're all set.
 
2012-12-12 09:41:18 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: FTFA: "You know, as we continue to tighten the border more and more, they'll find every method they can explore to get their drug loads over," said Agent K. Linwood Estes of the Border Patrol.

It's almost like building a fence won't change the economic incentives that drive much of the illegal cross-border trade.


Well, not in the direction you'd want, since restrictions to supply drive up the price on goods with essentially non-elastic demand.
 
2012-12-12 09:41:30 AM  
But will they rebuild the house they destroyed when the payload skipped?
 
2012-12-12 09:42:17 AM  
You know, the idea of smuggling something over a border/fence is an interesting engineering thought experiment. Here's my solution:

Program a bunch of mini quadcopters to pick up a small bundle of product, fly over the fence to the dropoff point, drop the load, and return (then repeat).

So you get your swarm going and only have to have a person around to maybe recharge their batteries or something. Quick, easy, relatively cheap... Plus it would look really neat :-)
 
2012-12-12 09:42:54 AM  

blatz514: Meh, they should just you this:

[www.chicagoparent.com image 500x375]


media.popularmechanics.com

4,400+ feet......easier to get your stash cause you launch that biatch almost a mile away!
 
2012-12-12 09:43:52 AM  
Looks like pretty good accuracy, too, with most of those canisters in a line. A little practice and they can probably drop them right into a bucket. Wonder what the distance was?
 
2012-12-12 09:45:19 AM  
A man who looked like a walrus was heard saying, "in 3...2...1"

Honest Bender: Program a bunch of mini quadcopters to pick up a small bundle of product, fly over the fence to the dropoff point, drop the load, and return


I've been noodling with the idea of training swallows
 
2012-12-12 09:46:43 AM  

Cheron: I've been noodling with the idea of training swallows


African or European?
 
2012-12-12 09:46:51 AM  

meanmutton: HMS_Blinkin: FTFA: "You know, as we continue to tighten the border more and more, they'll find every method they can explore to get their drug loads over," said Agent K. Linwood Estes of the Border Patrol.

It's almost like building a fence won't change the economic incentives that drive much of the illegal cross-border trade.

Yeah. When you can sell a product for literally 1,000 times its production cost, you're going to get REALLY inventive as to how to distribute it.


Exactly. All of our border fencing accomplishes nothing more than cutting into the drug cartels' profit margin, which as you point out, is sky-high anyway. Removing the economic incentive to run drugs is probably the only way to stop that trade, and border fences and patrols won't present a big enough threat to the profits of cartels.

On the other hand, if we freakin' legalized weed, the economic incentive to run drugs across the border would stop overnight.
 
2012-12-12 09:48:16 AM  
I'm sorry, are those realistic drug prices from police?
 
2012-12-12 09:48:24 AM  

Mr Guy: HMS_Blinkin: FTFA: "You know, as we continue to tighten the border more and more, they'll find every method they can explore to get their drug loads over," said Agent K. Linwood Estes of the Border Patrol.

It's almost like building a fence won't change the economic incentives that drive much of the illegal cross-border trade.

Well, not in the direction you'd want, since restrictions to supply drive up the price on goods with essentially non-elastic demand.


It's like the war on drugs is being supported by people who have a totally opposite understanding of how economics works.
 
2012-12-12 09:49:38 AM  

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: Cheron: I've been noodling with the idea of training swallows

African or European?


And what kind of speed can you get from them?
 
2012-12-12 09:51:59 AM  

ChipNASA: blatz514: Meh, they should just you this:

[www.chicagoparent.com image 500x375]

[media.popularmechanics.com image 430x315]

4,400+ feet......easier to get your stash cause you launch that biatch almost a mile away!


I was caught between that and the pic I posted. Yours works much better.
 
2012-12-12 09:53:02 AM  

meanmutton: Can we please just hurry the fark up and legalize it so that we have legitimate companies growing, selling, and producing pot-based products instead of organized crime who are turning the Northern Mexican border into a war zone?


I learned something new on Maddow the other night. That marijuana was a class 1 drug, the highest rank or whatever. PCP was a class 2 along with cocaine. According to our government PCP is a safer drug than pot.

\farking hell.
 
2012-12-12 09:54:03 AM  

ChipNASA: blatz514: Meh, they should just you this:

[www.chicagoparent.com image 500x375]

[media.popularmechanics.com image 430x315]

4,400+ feet......easier to get your stash cause you launch that biatch almost a mile away!


so when it goes bad do you end up with pot pie?
 
2012-12-12 09:54:07 AM  

Honest Bender: You know, the idea of smuggling something over a border/fence is an interesting engineering thought experiment. Here's my solution:

Program a bunch of mini quadcopters to pick up a small bundle of product, fly over the fence to the dropoff point, drop the load, and return (then repeat).

So you get your swarm going and only have to have a person around to maybe recharge their batteries or something. Quick, easy, relatively cheap... Plus it would look really neat :-)


The DEA is now pulling up to your house in an unmarked vehicle. ;)
 
2012-12-12 09:55:08 AM  

technomuse: I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: Cheron: I've been noodling with the idea of training swallows

African or European?

And what kind of speed can you get from them?


Methinks, the coconuts will hold enough drugs to make it worthwhile.....
 
2012-12-12 09:55:57 AM  
Interesting topography there...what are those ridges some kind of crossing deterrent?
 
2012-12-12 09:56:21 AM  

thorthor: The DEA is now pulling up to your house in an unmarked vehicle. ;)


Lol. I'm an engineer/techie. I see a problem and I just have to over-engineer a solution for it.
 
2012-12-12 09:57:01 AM  
Legalize it and this problem is gone. Why would anyone buy Mexican weed when domestically produce weed of higher quality is available?
 
2012-12-12 09:58:53 AM  

blatz514: Meh, they should just you this:

[www.chicagoparent.com image 500x375]


This is more portable, and easier to use:

i46.tinypic.com

I tells ya, that's some evil genius at work. You could set something like my mortar in the bed of a pickup truck and drive to the correct spot, set the elevation, and fire it. The projectile will land within a few yards of where you aimed it, and you can just drive off quickly.

I'm not sure of the maximum range of my mortar yet: I know I can hit about 280 yards with a cylindrical, flat-nosed 1 lb projectile (14 oz size tin can half-full of cement), and about 400 grains of powder. If I worked on it, I bet I can get at least 350 yards by making the cans more aerodynamic, upping the charge to a full ounce (437 grains) of powder, and making sure the elevation is set for optimum range.
 
2012-12-12 10:00:08 AM  

Ghengis_Socrates: Why would anyone buy Mexican weed

?

Someone has to supply unconnected 8th graders with dirtweed.

Either that or this weed's a decoy for the coke they shot over the fence a few miles away.
 
2012-12-12 10:02:10 AM  
Wtf? the fence is only, what- 15' high? Hell, old Mexican women can toss a 2 lb. can over that. A cannon seems like expensive overkill.
 
2012-12-12 10:03:27 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: meanmutton: HMS_Blinkin: FTFA: "You know, as we continue to tighten the border more and more, they'll find every method they can explore to get their drug loads over," said Agent K. Linwood Estes of the Border Patrol.

It's almost like building a fence won't change the economic incentives that drive much of the illegal cross-border trade.

Yeah. When you can sell a product for literally 1,000 times its production cost, you're going to get REALLY inventive as to how to distribute it.

Exactly. All of our border fencing accomplishes nothing more than cutting into the drug cartels' profit margin, which as you point out, is sky-high anyway. Removing the economic incentive to run drugs is probably the only way to stop that trade, and border fences and patrols won't present a big enough threat to the profits of cartels.

On the other hand, if we freakin' legalized weed, the economic incentive to run drugs across the border would stop overnight.


Except for cocaine, meth, heroine, X, ect...
 
2012-12-12 10:03:42 AM  
With your Weed Canon, and my Taco Cannon.. I think we have us a party!

imageshack.us
 
2012-12-12 10:05:57 AM  

dittybopper: blatz514: Meh, they should just you this:

[www.chicagoparent.com image 500x375]

This is more portable, and easier to use:

[i46.tinypic.com image 640x480]

I tells ya, that's some evil genius at work. You could set something like my mortar in the bed of a pickup truck and drive to the correct spot, set the elevation, and fire it. The projectile will land within a few yards of where you aimed it, and you can just drive off quickly.

I'm not sure of the maximum range of my mortar yet: I know I can hit about 280 yards with a cylindrical, flat-nosed 1 lb projectile (14 oz size tin can half-full of cement), and about 400 grains of powder. If I worked on it, I bet I can get at least 350 yards by making the cans more aerodynamic, upping the charge to a full ounce (437 grains) of powder, and making sure the elevation is set for optimum range.


Angry birds will become a cartel training program.
 
2012-12-12 10:09:07 AM  
 
2012-12-12 10:12:13 AM  

Honest Bender: You know, the idea of smuggling something over a border/fence is an interesting engineering thought experiment. Here's my solution:

Program a bunch of mini quadcopters to pick up a small bundle of product, fly over the fence to the dropoff point, drop the load, and return (then repeat).

So you get your swarm going and only have to have a person around to maybe recharge their batteries or something. Quick, easy, relatively cheap... Plus it would look really neat :-)


My idea was to use autonomous underwater vehicles to transport them from Central/South America to the Gulf states.

I went to Wikipedia, and apparently I'm not the only one to get that idea. I can claim to have thought of it first, though, I've posted about it on Fark since at least as early as 2007, and my idea predates that of course.

I've since evolved the concept, though, instead of what is essentially a slow torpedo, you use an underwater glider.
 
2012-12-12 10:14:17 AM  

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: African or European?


So they are hollowing out coconuts now?
 
2012-12-12 10:17:03 AM  

dittybopper: I went to Wikipedia, and apparently I'm not the only one to get that idea. I can claim to have thought of it first, though, I've posted about it on Fark since at least as early as 2007, and my idea predates that of course.


So the cartels also read Fark?
 
2012-12-12 10:19:18 AM  

Ghengis_Socrates: I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: African or European?

So they are hollowing out coconuts now?


It's a simple question of weight ratios. A five ounce bird could not carry a 1 pound coconut full of marijuana.
 
2012-12-12 10:21:24 AM  

for good or for awesome: meanmutton: Can we please just hurry the fark up and legalize it so that we have legitimate companies growing, selling, and producing pot-based products instead of organized crime who are turning the Northern Mexican border into a war zone?

I learned something new on Maddow the other night. That marijuana was a class 1 drug, the highest rank or whatever. PCP was a class 2 along with cocaine. According to our government PCP is a safer drug than pot.

\farking hell.


"Schedule I" drugs are supposed to have absolutely no legitimate medical use, and have a high potential for abuse. Marijuana is in this category.

"Schedule II" drugs have a legitimate medical use, but have a very high abuse potential and are generally not used for medical reasons.

Cocaine is a topical anaesthetic. PCP actually was created as a surgical anesthetic and saw limited use in the 1940's and 1950's, but was eventually shelved as having too many side effects compared to newer anesthetics coming out. Morphine is class II.

Yup, morphine is the same controlled substance class as cocaine and PCP.

The DEA officially says there is absolutely, positively no medical use for cannabis. It's a purely political move to increase penalties for marijuana, not one actually reflecting medical thought on THC.
 
2012-12-12 10:24:19 AM  
If they were smart, they'd just send us instructions on how to grow our own crappy weed.
 
2012-12-12 10:25:30 AM  

meanmutton: Can we please just hurry the fark up and legalize it so that we have legitimate companies growing, selling, and producing pot-based products instead of organized crime who are turning the Northern Mexican border into a war zone?


Right...that will solve all organized crime. All issues aside. Organized crime will always exists. Their goods/services will change, but not their existence.

They'll just turn to cocaine, meth, extortion, etc....
 
2012-12-12 10:26:21 AM  
Well that chicken will not fark itself. At least prohibition inspires creativity.

Sadly creative ways of smuggling and murdering are what prohibition actually inspires.
 
2012-12-12 10:26:49 AM  

Girion47: Angry birds will become a cartel training program.


I prefer a cannon ballistics program called "Lock'N'Load" myself.
 
2012-12-12 10:27:53 AM  
This has a lot of potential for other uses.
ie...If you want to get PEOPLE across the border:
Just get a pot from underneath a table in a dirty sea-side kitchen, put it on your head...

The Fettuccine Brothers could make a killing!

/work sucks
 
2012-12-12 10:28:26 AM  

Ghengis_Socrates: dittybopper: I went to Wikipedia, and apparently I'm not the only one to get that idea. I can claim to have thought of it first, though, I've posted about it on Fark since at least as early as 2007, and my idea predates that of course.

So the cartels also read Fark?


Wouldn't surprise me, though I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought of that.
 
2012-12-12 10:28:47 AM  

santadog: With your Weed Canon, and my Taco Cannon.. I think we have us a party!

[imageshack.us image 640x427]


That looks like fun, fun, fun!
 
2012-12-12 10:32:01 AM  
"War on Drugs"

Just light up with a nuke already.
disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-12-12 10:33:02 AM  

meanmutton: Can we please just hurry the fark up and legalize it so that we have legitimate companies growing, selling, and producing pot-based products instead of organized crime who are turning the Northern Mexican border into a war zone?


We're doing what we can...

/CO resident
 
2012-12-12 10:34:04 AM  

meanmutton: Can we please just hurry the fark up and legalize it so that we have legitimate companies growing, selling, and producing pot-based products instead of organized crime who are turning the Northern Mexican border into a war zone?


This. I don't know anybody that would smoke that schwag. The 'cartels' that have been busted in the Seattle area are bringing in meth and heroin. Too much good weed in these parts and they can't compete; Or so I've heard.
 
2012-12-12 10:35:12 AM  
I did notice a lot more hispanic folks at Punkin Chunkin this year. hmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
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