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(Politico)   Boehner's biggest problem in negotiating with Obama? His own caucus   ( divider line
    More: Ironic, Boehner, David Schweikert, Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Financial Services Committee, House Financial Services Committee, GOP leadership  
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2012-12-12 10:22:07 AM  
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Muta: It his "majority of the majority" policy that is kicking his ass. He won't let anything go to the floor for a vote unless the majority of the Republicans support it. If he works with all the Representatives who represent all of America then Boner would have an easier time finding a consensus.

The funny thing is, we've all been begging for a third party to arise, and it sort of did, and now we hate it because we're incapable of effectively running a coalition government under the current rules.
2012-12-12 01:26:03 PM  
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MindStalker: No, its more of an internal coup. Imagine if your living in a Dictatorship and wishing a second party arises so you could have a Democracy. Then a second party appears, it kills the Dictator and sets itself up as the new Dictator. That's called a coup, not Democracy, and not really a second party, just a replacement.

That's not what's going on here, though. You've got the Tea Party, who are only Republicans because they're latched on the Republican's money teat, effectively in a coalition party with the Actual Republicans, which are paying them lip service (and campaign/PAC money) to maintain a majority that they couldn't have if the TP were an actual third party. Unfortunately, their objectives are too different for them to govern - they can't, as a majority/coalition party, come up with legislation that can pass the Senate and get signed by the President, because one part of the coalition will not make any concessions. They're fixated on keeping that false majority, which is practically useless for them (because they can't use it to actually get anything done), and it is becoming more and more obvious (to the rest of us) that it's actively hurting them.

Basically if they ditch the teabaggers they lose their majority, but if they keep them, they can't effectively use the majority and it slowly poisons the party to death.
2012-12-12 12:26:39 PM  
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incendi: Sometimes I think it'd be nice if we could have a "vote of no confidence" that would result in the dissolution of the house of representatives and new elections.

We do. Every two years.

And incumbents have a 98% re-election rate.
2012-12-12 09:12:04 AM  
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incendi: If you don't have a side of the bargain that you can actually deliver, then you shouldn't be the one bargaining.

It is like sending your 8 year old kid in to negotiate a price with a car salesman when not even the parents can agree that they want a car.
2012-12-12 09:06:38 AM  
1 vote:
Boehner's medicine will make all his problems go away.

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