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(Politico)   Boehner's biggest problem in negotiating with Obama? His own caucus   (politico.com) divider line 39
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2012-12-12 08:09:31 AM
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2012-12-12 08:11:31 AM
If you don't have a side of the bargain that you can actually deliver, then you shouldn't be the one bargaining.
 
2012-12-12 08:28:08 AM
Hah! "Caucus".
 
2012-12-12 08:45:24 AM
There's a fine line between "ironic" and "obvious"

/at least in Fark tags
//he's being led by his caucus
 
2012-12-12 08:47:56 AM
"And there's always friction within a party, between your conservatives, your moderates, even your liberals."

Won't someone think of the Republican liberals?
 
2012-12-12 08:52:18 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Hah! "Caucus".


In the sense that a rioting mob is a caucus.
 
2012-12-12 09:04:05 AM
Did Eric Cantor steal the obvious tag behind Boehner's back?
 
2012-12-12 09:06:10 AM

Therion: "And there's always friction within a party, between your conservatives, your moderates, even your liberals."

Won't someone think of the Republican liberals?


People who study American history do.

/Horace Greeley FTW
 
2012-12-12 09:06:38 AM
Boehner's medicine will make all his problems go away.

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2012-12-12 09:07:58 AM
That's his second biggest problem. His biggest problem is that he's Boehner who couldn't negotiate his way into free waffles on free waffle day.
 
2012-12-12 09:12:04 AM

incendi: If you don't have a side of the bargain that you can actually deliver, then you shouldn't be the one bargaining.


It is like sending your 8 year old kid in to negotiate a price with a car salesman when not even the parents can agree that they want a car.
 
2012-12-12 09:14:23 AM
Unfortunately fanatics are more interested in purity to the cause than governing so any Republican that dares to suggest a compromise is drummed out as a RINO.
 
2012-12-12 09:14:31 AM
You can call Nancy Pelosi an evil socialist battleaxe all you want, but you have to acknowledge that at least she was damn good at her job.
 
2012-12-12 09:15:22 AM
Boehner's biggest problem in negotiating with Obama? His own caucus

Early frontrunner for 2013 HOTY.
 
2012-12-12 09:18:33 AM
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2012-12-12 09:18:35 AM
Boehner's biggest problem is that he's trying to get out of his bad situation with the same level of stupidity that got him into it in the first place. His caucus sees he's leading them to their doom and will lead a revolt to keep their jobs if need be.
 
2012-12-12 09:24:06 AM

Karac: You can call Nancy Pelosi an evil socialist battleaxe all you want, but you have to acknowledge that at least she was damn good at her job.


Oh, goody. I thought this one had outlived its usefulness.

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Bonus: You know where I sampled the orange for that text from, right?
 
2012-12-12 09:26:46 AM

Sock Ruh Tease: Boehner's medicine will make all his problems go away.

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i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-12 09:29:10 AM
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How is this preventing negotiation?
 
2012-12-12 09:31:56 AM

Dimensio: How is this preventing negotiation?


Well, I'd explain, but the details are a bit prickly.
 
2012-12-12 09:35:55 AM
Maybe spending the past several years describing Obama as an evil Communist Nazi Muslim out to destroy America and send them all to death camps and any deal you make will see you destroyed, might have a little to do with this...?
 
2012-12-12 09:40:10 AM
When you focus so much on getting the crazy on your side, don't be shocked when that turns out to be a bad thing.
 
2012-12-12 09:42:25 AM
Boehner would destroy the country to save his job. This has always been true. Unfortunately, he will probably end up destroying the country and still lose his job.
 
2012-12-12 09:42:41 AM
Sometimes I think it'd be nice if we could have a "vote of no confidence" that would result in the dissolution of the house of representatives and new elections.
 
2012-12-12 09:51:49 AM
Ya know, you stick your Boenher in crazy, and sometimes crazy won't let you pull out......
 
2012-12-12 09:52:01 AM

Crabs_Can_Polevault: Karac: You can call Nancy Pelosi an evil socialist battleaxe all you want, but you have to acknowledge that at least she was damn good at her job.

Oh, goody. I thought this one had outlived its usefulness.

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Bonus: You know where I sampled the orange for that text from, right?


LOL.
 
2012-12-12 10:15:22 AM
It his "majority of the majority" policy that is kicking his ass. He won't let anything go to the floor for a vote unless the majority of the Republicans support it. If he works with all the Representatives who represent all of America then Boner would have an easier time finding a consensus.
 
2012-12-12 10:22:07 AM

Muta: It his "majority of the majority" policy that is kicking his ass. He won't let anything go to the floor for a vote unless the majority of the Republicans support it. If he works with all the Representatives who represent all of America then Boner would have an easier time finding a consensus.


The funny thing is, we've all been begging for a third party to arise, and it sort of did, and now we hate it because we're incapable of effectively running a coalition government under the current rules.
 
2012-12-12 10:24:29 AM

Therion: "And there's always friction within a party, between your conservatives, your moderates, even your liberals."

Won't someone think of the Republican liberals?


At this point, Boehner is a liberal compared to the Republican caucus.
 
2012-12-12 11:01:23 AM
My Congressman once explained the difference between a cactus and a caucus:
"With a cactus, all the pricks are on the outside."
 
2012-12-12 11:05:28 AM

sprawl15: That's his second biggest problem. His biggest problem is that he's Boehner who couldn't negotiate his way into free waffles on free waffle day.


Is that a thing?!?
 
2012-12-12 11:07:18 AM

incendi: Muta: It his "majority of the majority" policy that is kicking his ass. He won't let anything go to the floor for a vote unless the majority of the Republicans support it. If he works with all the Representatives who represent all of America then Boner would have an easier time finding a consensus.

The funny thing is, we've all been begging for a third party to arise, and it sort of did, and now we hate it because we're incapable of effectively running a coalition government under the current rules.


No, its more of an internal coup. Imagine if your living in a Dictatorship and wishing a second party arises so you could have a Democracy. Then a second party appears, it kills the Dictator and sets itself up as the new Dictator. That's called a coup, not Democracy, and not really a second party, just a replacement.
 
2012-12-12 12:26:39 PM

incendi: Sometimes I think it'd be nice if we could have a "vote of no confidence" that would result in the dissolution of the house of representatives and new elections.


We do. Every two years.

And incumbents have a 98% re-election rate.
 
2012-12-12 12:31:46 PM

StopLurkListen: We do. Every two years.

And incumbents have a 98% re-election rate.


Yeah yeah. You know what I mean. That re-election rate *might* go down if people were told, "Hey, we need you to go vote mid-march because your government is too incompetent to do their job."
 
2012-12-12 01:26:03 PM

MindStalker: No, its more of an internal coup. Imagine if your living in a Dictatorship and wishing a second party arises so you could have a Democracy. Then a second party appears, it kills the Dictator and sets itself up as the new Dictator. That's called a coup, not Democracy, and not really a second party, just a replacement.


That's not what's going on here, though. You've got the Tea Party, who are only Republicans because they're latched on the Republican's money teat, effectively in a coalition party with the Actual Republicans, which are paying them lip service (and campaign/PAC money) to maintain a majority that they couldn't have if the TP were an actual third party. Unfortunately, their objectives are too different for them to govern - they can't, as a majority/coalition party, come up with legislation that can pass the Senate and get signed by the President, because one part of the coalition will not make any concessions. They're fixated on keeping that false majority, which is practically useless for them (because they can't use it to actually get anything done), and it is becoming more and more obvious (to the rest of us) that it's actively hurting them.

Basically if they ditch the teabaggers they lose their majority, but if they keep them, they can't effectively use the majority and it slowly poisons the party to death.
 
2012-12-12 03:31:07 PM

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How is this preventing negotiation?


That's in fact the exact opposite of the house GOP - the pricks are on the outside
 
2012-12-12 03:32:21 PM

lilbjorn: My Congressman once explained the difference between a cactus and a caucus:
"With a cactus, all the pricks are on the outside."


dammit!
 
2012-12-12 03:33:57 PM
Ironic? Really Submittard?
 
2012-12-12 04:26:08 PM
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