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2012-12-12 05:52:35 AM
10 votes:
What worked. - You peddled somebody who could form a sentence, looked good in a suit and seemed like a normal, educated man.

What didn't - You peddled a guy who carries water for the people who have, in collusion with banks, the legislature and enough lobbyists to sink a barge, gutted the economy, pronounced corporations as gods who live above the law, bashed gay people, told women to get back in the kitchen and generally told everybody who isn't already rich as Roosevelt they are moochers, whiners, welfare queens and are probably sitting on their ass with a bag of Doritos, waiting for a handout.

Other than that, it was a brilliant campaign.

Oh, and after hundreds of years of black Americans only now emerging from the status of slave class, if you actually thought they were gonna vote for some ivy league, lily white twat who's had a hand in dismantling companies for profit and looks like every lantern jawed prat who looked down their nose at them in a job interview, you're not only out of touch, you're clinically deluded.
2012-12-12 11:12:49 AM
5 votes:
What worked: Gerrymandering
2012-12-12 04:47:05 PM
2 votes:
This is kind of a long post but worth sharing. The following Festival of Rightwingistan Whine was circulating in the wretched Conservative underbelly of FB and it reflects the mindset of butt hurt Conservatives post 2012 election;

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Posted before, but worth sharing again... This was messaged in by Patriot Denny Kellough..

"***IT'S OFFICIAL***

Well, It's official; I don't know anything.

I thought for sure that given such a clear choice, Americans would vote for love of country over revenge.

I was wrong.

I thought, that just as every presidential election in my lifetime, the bad economy would be hung around the incumbent's neck, sinking him.

I was wrong.

I thought that even those few Americans who were fortunate enough to still be fully employed (not counting those leeching off the public system) would be cognizant of how much pain their neighbors were in and elect someone who would at least try to make improvements.

I was wrong.

I thought that now that FINALLY some of the disturbing truths about our first black president had come to light, voters would reject a man so dangerously at odds with the American experience.

I was wrong.

I thought the 2010 elections and the Tea Party meant something.

I thought the enthusiasm on display at Romney/Ryan events, contrasted with the lack of same at Obama/Biden events meant something.

I thought Americans would never sell their liberty for the sake of trinkets like cell phones or even big shiny lies like 'free health care'.

I was wrong.

Never in a million years would I have supposed that America would support a president who left his (our) people to die at the hands of our enemies overseas without lifting a hand to help, then lie about what he watched in real time for over two weeks, then lie about the lie for another month.

I was wrong.

I thought Americans could tell a hawk from a handsaw.

I was wrong.

We were offered the clearest choice we've had since 1980, where we had malaise and a misery index on one hand and a shining city on a hill on the other. Back then, we chose the city on the hill. This time the choice was between a man who says 7.9% unemployment and $4.00 gas is the new normal and a guy whose entire career has been about fixing broken entities.

We chose to stay broken. And Broke.

Maybe I'm wrong about the ramifications of this choice. Maybe windmills will actually turn out to be a viable energy source. Maybe America diminished will be loved overseas. Maybe a nuclear Iran won't be a threat. Maybe Israel is over reacting. Maybe western civilization was always over rated. Maybe life under sharia is fun. Maybe when the rest of the world realizes that we have no intention of ever paying back that $16,000,000,000,000.00 (and counting) that we've borrowed from them, they won't devalue the dollar, causing hyper inflation here at home. Maybe China will just keep on giving us money and not demand our hearts, souls, national monuments and marriageable daughters as payment.

I've watched my candidate lose elections before but I've never felt the way I did last night when this one was called for Obama.

It wasn't bitterness or sadness or even disappointment. It took me a while to figure out what it was. Then it hit me; it was horror.

Pure, unadulterated horror.

Not because of Obama, but because of what it says about us, the American people, that we chose this.

It shouldn't have even been close. Faced with the choice between taking charge of our destiny and tackling our financial problems, we opted to get high and have sex. We re elected a guy who doesn't understand that a growing economy that creates more tax payers will bring in more revenue than higher taxes. A Commander in Chief who doesn't know our military still uses bayonets. A man who wants to control the economy without even knowing the difference between bankruptcy and liquidation.
It was one thing to elect an unknown quantity, buying his line of 'Hope and Change'. It's something else to deliberately choose his failed policies over someone who has actually achieved success in life. I never dreamed America would do that.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, Hello Idiocracy!

Goodbye, recovery.

Goodbye, energy independence.

Goodbye, religious liberty.

Goodbye, liberty and justice for all.

Goodbye, America dream.

It profits a man nothing to lose his soul for the whole world but we threw ours away for cell phones and birth control pills.

In the twentieth century (the American Century), we stepped up to the plate three times and saved the rest of the world from fascism, nazism and communism. We were the cavalry, always riding to the rescue.

Now, we've gotten rid of our horses, spent all our money on windmills, alienated our allies, bowed to our enemies, cut ourselves off from our own natural resources thrown away our children's birthright and spent their inheritance.

And we did it on purpose.

When the wolf is at the door (and he's coming, yelling 'Allahu Akbar') we're going to find out that there is no one out there to come to our rescue."

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The following was my response to it which resulted in my bannation from three Rightwingistan FB pages who were reposting this drivel;

"Six weeks later and you guys still don't get it. Ok, I'll try to explain it to you and maybe it will get through.

You did not lose because of voter fraud, or because brown people want free stuff, or because of "the MEDIA". You lost because you started your primary way too early and the candidates you put up were all retreads or crazy people with once exception, Jon Huntsman, and he didn't make it past the third debate.

You lost because you have allowed your party to be overtaken by the Tea Party who have a public approval rating that hovers somewhere near the measles. Even Karl Rove has expressed displeasure with the way you've allowed the Tea Tards to primary away all of your sane, moderate, sensible ELECTABLE candidates. The general public does not want people in government who view compromise as a dirty word. The primary horse race changed leaders several times but ol' Mittens managed to outspend the rest of them and was essentially the last man standing when the dust settled. None of you liked Mittster in the beginning..you changed horses between Cain, Gingrich and Santorum before finally lining up behind Romney by default. You tried very hard to feign enthusiasm for him but ultimately everyone saw what was going on..you were backing him because he wasn't Obama. Mittens went on to mount a very awkward campaign, making very embarrassing public gaffes in his futile attempts to appear as anything but an out-of-touch rich guy who had "be President" on his bucket list, which culminated in his "47 percent" comments which effectively insulted close to half the country. On top of that, you guys doubled down on the statement and were appeared genuinely surprised when all those your insulted didn't vote for you.

On both the state and national level, you guys did your very best to alienate women and minorities and did a marvelous job of it.

You lost because you allowed Obama to take several unanswered swipes at Mitt's career as a "vulture capitalst" (as he was called by his own party members during the primaries) and because you refused to give specifics when asked about the details in your party's economic plan.

You nominated Paul Ryan as VP which was one of the biggest blunders of the entire affair. You lost because Mitt was not a believable candidate and he changed positions so many times you needed a scorecard to keep track.

You lost because you wouldn't marginalize your nutsos who insisted on talking about rape, birth control and restricting women's health care options while advocating unnecessary and invasive medical procedures for women seeking a procedure that is protected by the US Constitution.

You lost because you failed to put together anything that resembled a sane immigration policy.

You lost because old grumpy white guys are not the majority of the electorate any longer and that is who your key demographic seemed to be.

You lost because you did everything within your power to limit and restrict people's ability to vote, so much so that they lined up in droves and waited in line for hours to vote against you because of it.

You lost because you have caused Congress to cease to function because of your petulant pouting over the fact that your lost an election and caused the first credit downgrade the country has ever seen in it's history due to your willingness to allow the US to default on it's debts in the name of political posturing because of it.

You lost because people see you as the reason we're in the mess we're in and all you offer is "more of the same". I know this will be totally lost on everyone who actually reads it, but for some reason, after reading this whiny screed from Mr. Kellough, I felt compelled for bring you some perspective from "outside the right wing bubble". Ignore it at your peril but do not be too shocked if your party fails to win another major election until they do some serious reflection, purges the nutbags and starts to do more to bring people in rather than simply trying to squash them."

In the brief period after posting this before I was banned and the comments stricken, I was accused of copying talking points from Liberal media websites, was told I was a Communist who worshiped Obama like he was some sort of Messiah, was told that it really WAS the media, voter fraud and lazy Libs wanting free stuff..and generally that people were idiots for not choosing Romney because there was absolutely NOTHING wrong with his platform and that we were very lucky to have been blessed by his desire to help the country.
2012-12-12 11:47:43 AM
2 votes:
What the Republicans need to start grappling with is that no strategy was going to make a candidate selected from this group:

www.csmonitor.com

Running on this platform, the most attractive option for over 50% of American voters.

They have won the popular vote in one of the last six Presidential elections. They have deep structural problems.
2012-12-12 06:49:45 AM
2 votes:
Here's what irks me: When I screw up (which is damn near all the time), I own it and take measures not to repeat it. I'm not sure, but I think this is the "personal responsibility" these junkyard dogs have been barking at me for years.

Republicans, on the other hand, blame everyone else for their own failures. After all, it can't possibly have been their fault, right? Well, in my book that makes you a child. Say what you will about my politics, but at least I own my mistakes. If I didn't think I'd annoy the smartphone Farkers I'd post a wall 'o text admitting all the times I've farked up.

Because I have, son. Yes I have.

Lately there have been a few "outliers" (Jindal surprised me the most) trying to constructively criticize the party. Except none of that will come to pass. We're going to witness more doubling down on stupid until the GOP renders itself irrelevant. Look, assholes, your base is eventually going to die. Literally. Maybe it's time you swam towards the center before the entire nation writes you off.
2012-12-12 01:34:07 PM
1 votes:
What worked: persuading some people to vote for them.
What didn't: persuading enough people to vote for them.

Obvious approaches:
1) Changing who votes, by
1.1) More effective get-out-the-vote targeting of GOP-likely voters
1.2) Voter supression of Democratic-likely voters (which is illegal if proven, so don't get caught)
2) Become more effective at persuading people of the GOP message
3) Change the GOP message to one enough people can be persuaded to accept
2012-12-12 11:55:46 AM
1 votes:

MmmmBacon: What worked - Convincing the Teatards that they are Mainstream.
What didn't work - Banking on the Teatards vote to be enough to carry the Presidency for the GOP.

2014 is going to be a great indicator as to whether the leadership in the GOP got the message from 2012. If they continue to court the far-right Tea Party types, they will continue to lose in the mid-terms, and there is likely no hope of them reforming into a sane and effectual political party for 2016 and beyond. But if in 2014 the GOP disavows the Teatards, lets them split off to their own far-right party while the Republicans move back towards the center, then... the GOP will lose ground in the midterms to the Dems. But they will regain the soul of the party, and actually have a chance of winning in 2016 and beyond.


I believe that by 2014, those who are currently in the GOP who want to move back towards the center, those who have a rational thought once in a while, will be members of the Democratic party. The tea party will own the GOP by 2014 and they will raise the derp to 11ty. There is no way the GOP will move back to the center. The fringe right will castigate them and the center and left will not believe them. They're caught between a rock and a hard place that they created for themselves.
2012-12-12 11:43:34 AM
1 votes:

dericwater: * voter suppression through long lines and voter ID laws. It didn't shift the balance of power, but it sure did hamper the number of voters. So now, the 2012 election results showed Obama winning by about 4 million popular votes instead of possibly 14 million.


It actually worked against them in a lot of swing states - the Obama ground game was miles ahead of the Romney ground game, and they banged the suppression drum a LOT to get groups out who otherwise weren't particularly motivated this election (like black churches) and organized them so well they generally knew the laws better than the poll workers.
2012-12-12 11:43:14 AM
1 votes:

Weaver95: ..but that's ok, because that's how democracy works. you get a little of what you want, the other guy gets some of what he wants


As presently constituted, the Republican Party cannot govern. It can only rule.
2012-12-12 11:41:00 AM
1 votes:

mrshowrules: Keeping Dubya away from their convention was a good move. Kinda.


I don't know about that. Having the most recent republican President conspicuously absent sent a clear message that they were embarrassed by him. Then it didn't help that Romney had Bush's old advisers and looked to promise more of the same. So, "Yeah Bush sucked but vote Romney, he has all the same people and ideas". That wasn't a great message for them to send IMO. Not that it would have mattered either way.
2012-12-12 11:32:38 AM
1 votes:

DemonEater: What worked: Gerrymandering


This is true. Without it, the Dems might have taken back the House (more people voted for Democratic House candidates than Republican ones).

But you can't gerrymander the Senate or Presidency.
2012-12-12 11:30:28 AM
1 votes:

sprawl15: There was literally nothing they did the entire campaign that was a good move. At best they had fleeting cleverness (like picking Paul Ryan) that they undermined by being total farkheads (declaring everything Paul Ryan did to be cancer and totally not what the campaign stood for).


Nominating the guy known for his record as governor of Massachusetts and having him run against himself wasn't a good idea either.
2012-12-12 11:28:35 AM
1 votes:

qorkfiend: sprawl15: There was literally nothing they did the entire campaign that was a good move. At best they had fleeting cleverness (like picking Paul Ryan) that they undermined by being total farkheads (declaring everything Paul Ryan did to be cancer and totally not what the campaign stood for).

There was one thing: Mitt Romney's first debate prep.


No, not even then. It wasn't that Romney did well, he did just as 'well' in the second and third debates in terms of his own performance. The reason Obama lost was that he just kind of laid there and frowned through it rather than addressing the nonsense.
2012-12-12 11:26:09 AM
1 votes:

SlothB77:
If the options are: democrats raising taxes alone or the republicans making a deal with democrats that involves raising taxes, let democrats raise taxes alone. Republicans are the party of low taxes and economic freedom. What do we have left if we compromise that core value?
If people think our current economic woes are the result of too-low taxes, they will see the truth.


I hope you get exactly what you want
2012-12-12 11:23:37 AM
1 votes:
The GOP is not afriad that raising taxes will hinder the economy, they are afraid it won't.
2012-12-12 11:16:40 AM
1 votes:

mrshowrules: SlothB77: Dear Republicans,

Step 1) Let the democrats raise taxes.
Step 2) Do nothing.
Step 3) Win in 2016

Why is this so hard?

If the options are: democrats raising taxes alone or the republicans making a deal with democrats that involves raising taxes, let democrats raise taxes alone. Republicans are the party of low taxes and economic freedom. What do we have left if we compromise that core value?
If people think our current economic woes are the result of too-low taxes, they will see the truth. If republicans think the economy will get worse when taxes are raised, then don't share in the blame. Let the blame fall solely on democrats.

You realize that the very first thing the DNC will do after the tax cuts expire is propose tax cuts for the poor and middle class? Honestly, you realize that right?


First order of business on Jan 1, 2013. I'd be surprised if they even managed all sit down before the Democrats are clamoring to be the ones to offer up those tax breaks.

For the GOP, it means this: They have to go along with 'bi-partisan' efforts to offer tax breaks that the President WILL SIGN, or come out against tax breaks. So, either they do what the President wants and is now currently demanding on an hourly basis, or they wear a nice heavy anchor labeled "Voted against Middle Class Tax Cuts"

GOP Options on Jan 1, 2013: Do what the President wants and demands. Or embrace higher taxes for the Middle Class.

It's that simple.
2012-12-12 11:13:13 AM
1 votes:
what didn't work? ye gods, I'd be here all day long...everything from zero ground game to some wacky ideas about how to motivate the troops. Then there was Romney's contempt of most voters, his background, his failure to release his tax records, his time at Bain capital...that list goes on and on as well. But the real problem was the GOP's ideology. regular voters aren't as open to the idea of a theocratic government in this country. sure, they might believe in god (in some form) but they don't want to write laws based on religious belief, nor do people trust that religious based laws are any sort of basis for how to organize a society. nobody wants to live in a theocracy, and that's a big factor in voters rejecting the Republicans.

As an aside, a lot of Republicans spent too much time in the echo chamber. see, in that place you can say all kinds of pro-rape comments and nobody so much as blinks an eye. out in the real world tho, if you tell women that rape babies are a gift and that they should be happy to have one....well, they're not going to think very highly of you after that. Don't believe your own press releases and learn to look outside the echo chamber. yes, it's cold out here and sure, there are people who don't believe in the same things the GOP does...but if you want to stay in office, you are going to have to occasionally made deals with those people and learn to coexist with them AND their strange, non-GOP ideas.

which brings me to my last point: the Republican party MUST stop seeing 'compromise' as weakness. no, you will not get everything you want. sometimes you'll only get 50% of what you want...but that's ok, because that's how democracy works. you get a little of what you want, the other guy gets some of what he wants...and life goes on. it's how you build a functional government. so learn to make deals (actual deals, not 'close the doors and lock everyone out so we can screw over everyone we don't like in lame duck session' kinda deals) and play nice with the other kids on the playground. also - stop taking ideological positions that refuse to compromise. you aren't Rorschach, this isn't a movie and you guys aren't heroes. stop believing that yer all John Galt.
2012-12-12 09:50:24 AM
1 votes:

SlothB77: Dear Republicans,

Step 1) Let the democrats raise taxes.
Step 2) Do nothing.
Step 3) Win in 2016

Why is this so hard?

If the options are: democrats raising taxes alone or the republicans making a deal with democrats that involves raising taxes, let democrats raise taxes alone. Republicans are the party of low taxes and economic freedom. What do we have left if we compromise that core value?
If people think our current economic woes are the result of too-low taxes, they will see the truth. If republicans think the economy will get worse when taxes are raised, then don't share in the blame. Let the blame fall solely on democrats.


You realize that the very first thing the DNC will do after the tax cuts expire is propose tax cuts for the poor and middle class? Honestly, you realize that right?
2012-12-12 09:37:36 AM
1 votes:

SlothB77: If republicans think the economy will get worse when taxes are raised, then don't share in the blame.


They don't think the economy will get worse when taxes are raised, they know it won't.
2012-12-12 07:42:17 AM
1 votes:
What didn't work: banking on there being enough white Christian senior citizens to sway the election for you. Your platform is the tech equivalent of a dial-up modem.
2012-12-12 07:20:11 AM
1 votes:

Counter_Intelligent: Us smartphone FARKers aren't offended by text. It's pictures that are too wide to fit onscreen that tick us off. It ruins the entire page.


I'm particularly pissed at long words, like when someone says "Bahahahaha" except longer than that. Totally farks up the entire thread when mobile.

So guys, stop doing that.
2012-12-12 07:02:32 AM
1 votes:
Us smartphone FARKers aren't offended by text. It's pictures that are too wide to fit onscreen that tick us off. It ruins the entire page.
 
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