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2012-12-12 11:38:13 AM
What worked:
* the 2010 gerrymandering. That'll hold well all the way to 2020, given that redistricting occurs once a decade (except for the time when Texas wanted to redistrict their states mid-decade during the Bush II administration and some of the democratic state legislators had to hide out in Oklahoma to not be present to hold a quorum for the bull rush voting).

* last minute bull-rush legislative votes a la the recent RTW legislation passed in Michigan.

* voter suppression through long lines and voter ID laws. It didn't shift the balance of power, but it sure did hamper the number of voters. So now, the 2012 election results showed Obama winning by about 4 million popular votes instead of possibly 14 million.

What didn't worked:
* being treasonous since January 2009 in terms of working with the president to better the country.

* adding oh-so-many anti-birth control, anti-abortion bills to the legislative bodies in the local, state and federal levels.

* outing yourselves as not caring for 47% of the country.
 
2012-12-12 11:41:00 AM

mrshowrules: Keeping Dubya away from their convention was a good move. Kinda.


I don't know about that. Having the most recent republican President conspicuously absent sent a clear message that they were embarrassed by him. Then it didn't help that Romney had Bush's old advisers and looked to promise more of the same. So, "Yeah Bush sucked but vote Romney, he has all the same people and ideas". That wasn't a great message for them to send IMO. Not that it would have mattered either way.
 
2012-12-12 11:43:14 AM

Weaver95: ..but that's ok, because that's how democracy works. you get a little of what you want, the other guy gets some of what he wants


As presently constituted, the Republican Party cannot govern. It can only rule.
 
2012-12-12 11:43:34 AM

dericwater: * voter suppression through long lines and voter ID laws. It didn't shift the balance of power, but it sure did hamper the number of voters. So now, the 2012 election results showed Obama winning by about 4 million popular votes instead of possibly 14 million.


It actually worked against them in a lot of swing states - the Obama ground game was miles ahead of the Romney ground game, and they banged the suppression drum a LOT to get groups out who otherwise weren't particularly motivated this election (like black churches) and organized them so well they generally knew the laws better than the poll workers.
 
2012-12-12 11:44:16 AM

Thank You Black Jesus!: The GOP is not afraid that raising taxes will hinder the economy, they are afraid it won't.


They know that raising taxes will help the economy. At least the smarter ones do. They know that helping the economy is tantamount to helping the enemy, the democrats and their titular head, the blah guy, Obama, and they would rather sink the economy and the country than to do any one thing to help the country. And when they're in power, rather than help the country to consolidate their power, they go on a drug-addled binge to suck as much money from the country as they can to give to their 1%'er friends (so that they can fund their re-election), and then drop that pile of turd back on the democrats to fix up in the following 4-8 years (hopefully 4).
 
2012-12-12 11:47:43 AM
What the Republicans need to start grappling with is that no strategy was going to make a candidate selected from this group:

www.csmonitor.com

Running on this platform, the most attractive option for over 50% of American voters.

They have won the popular vote in one of the last six Presidential elections. They have deep structural problems.
 
2012-12-12 11:48:00 AM
Senator-elect Ted Cruz gives a speech, proves GOP learned nothing from the election. Link
 
2012-12-12 11:48:44 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: What the Republicans need to start grappling with is that no strategy was going to make a candidate selected from this group:

[www.csmonitor.com image 600x400]

Running on this platform, the most attractive option for over 50% of American voters.

They have won the popular vote in one of the last six Presidential elections. They have deep structural problems.


I think they could have had a chance if they went with Herman Cain. I would have voted for him.
 
2012-12-12 11:49:44 AM
Yeah, whatever.

The GOP has become nothing but a collection of plutocratic, anti-intellectual, bigoted, regressive ideologues, who will bend over backwards to defend the wealthiest Americans at the expense of everyone else.

It's their philosophies and policies that are disgusting.
It's their hypocrisy that is repulsive.
It's their callous disregard for anyone who isn't wealthy that's offensive.

Everything the GOP does and everything they believe (or say they believe) is wrong, as far as I'm concerned.
 
2012-12-12 11:55:46 AM

MmmmBacon: What worked - Convincing the Teatards that they are Mainstream.
What didn't work - Banking on the Teatards vote to be enough to carry the Presidency for the GOP.

2014 is going to be a great indicator as to whether the leadership in the GOP got the message from 2012. If they continue to court the far-right Tea Party types, they will continue to lose in the mid-terms, and there is likely no hope of them reforming into a sane and effectual political party for 2016 and beyond. But if in 2014 the GOP disavows the Teatards, lets them split off to their own far-right party while the Republicans move back towards the center, then... the GOP will lose ground in the midterms to the Dems. But they will regain the soul of the party, and actually have a chance of winning in 2016 and beyond.


I believe that by 2014, those who are currently in the GOP who want to move back towards the center, those who have a rational thought once in a while, will be members of the Democratic party. The tea party will own the GOP by 2014 and they will raise the derp to 11ty. There is no way the GOP will move back to the center. The fringe right will castigate them and the center and left will not believe them. They're caught between a rock and a hard place that they created for themselves.
 
2012-12-12 11:59:27 AM

sprawl15: dericwater: * voter suppression through long lines and voter ID laws. It didn't shift the balance of power, but it sure did hamper the number of voters. So now, the 2012 election results showed Obama winning by about 4 million popular votes instead of possibly 14 million.

It actually worked against them in a lot of swing states - the Obama ground game was miles ahead of the Romney ground game, and they banged the suppression drum a LOT to get groups out who otherwise weren't particularly motivated this election (like black churches) and organized them so well they generally knew the laws better than the poll workers.


No doubt that the thought of voter suppression and the very overt machinations towards voter suppression (and the news articles) brought out a lot of the voters. But don't you for a minute believe that millions of voters were not disenfranchised by the suppression. The suppression worked, the anti-suppression GOTV worked even better, netting a positive for the GOTV side.
 
2012-12-12 12:03:37 PM

dericwater: But don't you for a minute believe that millions of voters were not disenfranchised by the suppression. The suppression worked, the anti-suppression GOTV worked even better, netting a positive for the GOTV side.


I'm not saying it didn't work, but rather that the effect was much harsher among GOP voters because of their unpreparedness - that some sovereign citizen out in the sticks humping his guns and bible was just as suppressed as some refrigerator owning minority welfare queen, but the latter had the support of the ground game. It was a horrific backfire. They would have done better by not even trying to suppress the vote.
 
2012-12-12 12:05:58 PM
I expect it will come down to the same thing that Jacques Parizeau concluded in his party's failure (pops)

He went on to suggest that Quebecois have more babies (voters)
 
2012-12-12 12:06:21 PM

sprawl15: Philip Francis Queeg: What the Republicans need to start grappling with is that no strategy was going to make a candidate selected from this group:

[www.csmonitor.com image 600x400]

Running on this platform, the most attractive option for over 50% of American voters.

They have won the popular vote in one of the last six Presidential elections. They have deep structural problems.

I think they could have had a chance if they went with Herman Cain. I would have voted for him.


Of the many candidates there, why Cain? He was there to shill for his book. He had no pretensions of wanting to be president. I fully expected him to pull out if it went down to him and one other candidate as the two remaining viable candidates. Heck, he wouldn't have waited until then. The GOP handlers wanted a darkie to mollify the african-americans (and Bachmann's presence was to mollify the women), but they had no intention of having Cain anywhere near the seat. And they chose Cain because he didn't want the seat as well.
 
2012-12-12 12:08:38 PM

Fart_Machine: But they nailed that old white wealthy Christian male demographic down cold.


Dr Dreidel: The GOP won the demographics that "mattered", right? They won the older crowd, the richer crowd, the whiter crowd, and the manlier crowd. They didn't win among "takers", and didn't want to. They didn't win among nonwhite religious conservatives, and didn't try to. They didn't win among the median-wage crowd, and didn't think they needed to.


What's so wrong about that? Haven't you heard of the aphorism "What's good for GM is good for America?"

Well, what's good the for the Republican base is what's good for America, because the Republican base IS America. Real America. The America that beat the British Empire, won two World Wars, and won the Cold War.

The American Left caused America to lose the Vietnam War, would have surrendered to the Communists, and now wants to surrender to the Islamofascists.

Don't be fooled by liberal propaganda. Take the "rape baby" non-controversy. Instead of screaming about a women's non-existent right to abortion on demand, why aren't we doing more to prevent rape babies in the first place? If abstinence education were taught to every schoolkid, then more sluts would have the moral fiber to Just Say No To Rape - voila, problem solved. But of course that would undermine the trillion dollar abortion industry, who are the main contributors to the feminazis behind the liberal family-destroying agenda.

I do concede that maybe the GOP could be doing a better job of packaging our message. Instead of stating "knocked-up sluts need to keep their rape babies - the power of Christ compels you", maybe we should be saying "We're sorry about the bad choices you've made that led to this. But look on the bright side - Jesus has given you an unconsensual, unanticipated gift of human life." I mean, you don't technically consent to a surprise birthday party, do you? That would spoil the surprise. But even though you didn't approve of it or expect it, it's still a gift. Who would want to abort their own surprise birthday party?
 
2012-12-12 12:09:54 PM

dericwater: Of the many candidates there, why Cain?


Because he was farking hilarious.

It's like I tend to say - the difference in parties to me is that I pretty materially disagree with the one while the other makes me physically ill to my stomach. I'd much rather vote in a joke candidate.
 
2012-12-12 12:10:06 PM

Rixel: I expect it will come down to the same thing that Jacques Parizeau concluded in his party's failure (pops)

He went on to suggest that Quebecois have more babies (voters)


My aunt use to clean his office and steal/drink his cognac. He was/is? a bigoted asshole.
 
2012-12-12 12:12:16 PM

Parthenogenetic: Fart_Machine: But they nailed that old white wealthy Christian male demographic down cold.

Dr Dreidel: The GOP won the demographics that "mattered", right? They won the older crowd, the richer crowd, the whiter crowd, and the manlier crowd. They didn't win among "takers", and didn't want to. They didn't win among nonwhite religious conservatives, and didn't try to. They didn't win among the median-wage crowd, and didn't think they needed to.

What's so wrong about that? Haven't you heard of the aphorism "What's good for GM is good for America?"

Well, what's good the for the Republican base is what's good for America, because the Republican base IS America. Real America. The America that beat the British Empire, won two World Wars, and won the Cold War.

The American Left caused America to lose the Vietnam War, would have surrendered to the Communists, and now wants to surrender to the Islamofascists.

Don't be fooled by liberal propaganda. Take the "rape baby" non-controversy. Instead of screaming about a women's non-existent right to abortion on demand, why aren't we doing more to prevent rape babies in the first place? If abstinence education were taught to every schoolkid, then more sluts would have the moral fiber to Just Say No To Rape - voila, problem solved. But of course that would undermine the trillion dollar abortion industry, who are the main contributors to the feminazis behind the liberal family-destroying agenda.

I do concede that maybe the GOP could be doing a better job of packaging our message. Instead of stating "knocked-up sluts need to keep their rape babies - the power of Christ compels you", maybe we should be saying "We're sorry about the bad choices you've made that led to this. But look on the bright side - Jesus has given you an unconsensual, unanticipated gift of human life." I mean, you don't technically consent to a surprise birthday party, do you? That would spoil the surprise. But even though you didn't approve of it or ex ...


8/10 (points lost for good grammar and spelling)
 
2012-12-12 12:13:01 PM

Parthenogenetic: The American Left caused America to lose the Vietnam War, would have surrendered to the Communists, and now wants to surrender to the Islamofascists.


Where do you get this horseshiat? Is there some underground psycho right wing newsletter?
 
2012-12-12 12:13:08 PM

sprawl15: I'd much rather vote in a joke candidate.


How'd that work out in 2000?
 
2012-12-12 12:14:02 PM

lilbjorn: sprawl15: I'd much rather vote in a joke candidate.

How'd that work out in 2000?


Traficant didn't win that year either.
 
2012-12-12 12:21:08 PM

lilbjorn: sprawl15: I'd much rather vote in a joke candidate.

How'd that work out in 2000?


This. Your choice of humor causes the rest of us to be utterly destroyed. Please, no joke candidates.
 
2012-12-12 12:26:15 PM

dickfreckle: Here's what irks me: When I screw up (which is damn near all the time), I own it and take measures not to repeat it. I'm not sure, but I think this is the "personal responsibility" these junkyard dogs have been barking at me for years.


When I teach programming I tell my students that the greatest talent they can have is the ability to say, "I screwed up 50 times a day." Because if there's a bug in your code you put it there; not the compiler, not the linker, not Microsoft (yeah, sometimes, very rarely, it IS Microsoft). If you cannot say, "I screwed up," you cannot find your bug and fix it.

/ Don't know many Republican coders.
 
2012-12-12 12:27:34 PM

sprawl15: dericwater: But don't you for a minute believe that millions of voters were not disenfranchised by the suppression. The suppression worked, the anti-suppression GOTV worked even better, netting a positive for the GOTV side.

I'm not saying it didn't work, but rather that the effect was much harsher among GOP voters because of their unpreparedness - that some sovereign citizen out in the sticks humping his guns and bible was just as suppressed as some refrigerator owning minority welfare queen, but the latter had the support of the ground game. It was a horrific backfire. They would have done better by not even trying to suppress the vote.


I can't speak for the GOP ground game. They spoke a good game, claiming they know every precinct and every voters' intentions. They may be speaking the truth, or maybe they're just blowing smoke out of their asses. I do know of the Obama's GOTV ground game, as I was a volunteer in the phone banking. We do know each and every voter's position. Now, while we didn't create any voter suppression actions, we did identify the GOP among those in the SF Bay Area (I know, not too many, and our intent wasn't to out them as much as to update the database) and just let them be. Our goal in the Bay Area was to call into the swing states, Nevada, in particular, to contact DEMOCRATIC voters to make sure they're going to get out to vote. So yes, we were working hard to overcome the suppression. Some others drove out to Reno or Las Vegas (those from LA/SD area did that) and helped get people signed up to vote or to help them on election day to walk up to the polling places.

The GOP may talk a good game, but I doubt they had the same community-activist capability of bringing people together to make things like that happen.
 
2012-12-12 12:28:24 PM

dericwater: This. Your choice of humor causes the rest of us to be utterly destroyed.


"I'd rather vote joke candidate than vote for an honest GOP candidate"
"YEAH THAT WORKED OUT WITH BUSH"

jesus you people are stupid
 
2012-12-12 12:31:23 PM

Mugato: Parthenogenetic: The American Left caused America to lose the Vietnam War, would have surrendered to the Communists, and now wants to surrender to the Islamofascists.

Where do you get this horseshiat? Is there some underground psycho right wing newsletter?


Have you been asleep the last eleven years and three months since 9/11? You missed all of the GOP talking heads on Fox News and teh internets screaming about liberal appeasement and how any criticism of the War on Terror was high treason and surrender to the Islamofascist Caliphate?

Here is just one recent example (warning: American Thinker)
 
2012-12-12 12:31:34 PM

Sybarite: I think taking a single quote of your opponent blatantly out of context then building an entire night of your convention around that deception is a really, really good idea that no one will ever see through.


That didn't matter. Their party's in an echo chamber and the whole "We built this" garbage didn't change anyone's mind one way or the other. GOP supporters completely bought into it and Obama supporters tried in vain to define what the word "context" meant. Any real undecideds, if they actually existed at that point, were probably wondering what all the hype was about.
 
2012-12-12 12:33:10 PM

Parthenogenetic: Dr Dreidel: The GOP won the demographics that "mattered", right? They won the older crowd, the richer crowd, the whiter crowd, and the manlier crowd. They didn't win among "takers", and didn't want to. They didn't win among nonwhite religious conservatives, and didn't try to. They didn't win among the median-wage crowd, and didn't think they needed to.

What's so wrong about that? Haven't you heard of the aphorism "What's good for GM is good for America?"

Well, what's good the for the Republican base is what's good for America, because the Republican base IS America. Real America. The America that beat the British Empire, won two World Wars, and won the Cold War.

The American Left caused America to lose the Vietnam War, would have surrendered to the Communists, and now wants to surrender to the Islamofascists.


2/10 - spelled right, and before I had read that far, I saw right through it.

Labor (unions), rebels (who are, by definition, not conservative), Wilson and FDR, and the USSR spending itself into oblivion (while the US did the same, we at least had the bankroll for it - thanks, Reagan!). Yawn.
 
2012-12-12 12:35:28 PM

dericwater: I can't speak for the GOP ground game.


It's not like I'm trying to explain weird abstract shiat to you. I told you a couple times their ground game sucked. You can easily spend 10 seconds googling to find all kinds of angry rants by Romney staffers who were pissed about how terrible the ground game was if you're really on the fence about believing it.

brigid_fitch: Their party's in an echo chamber and the whole "We built this" garbage didn't change anyone's mind one way or the other.


That's one of the bigger structural problems with the GOP - they're in a holding pattern when the demographics are shifting. They rely on things that are bland, sound good to the believers, and don't change anyone's mind because they believe that most of America will vote for them by default.

Remember that the existence of significant numbers of minorities surprised these assholes.
 
2012-12-12 12:41:06 PM

sprawl15: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: But surely you can see how the initial explosion of poop can be so blinding and surprising that you're just flailing around in a neverending torrent of the stuff, trying to wipe it out of your eyes and running around blind and stumbling knee deep in crap while the asshole just keeps spewing and spewing and spewing.

No. I can't imagine being so shocked by something that I would just wallow in an ever growing lake of shiat rather than get up and run away.


Then you've never taken a poop apocalypse right to the face. That much is clear.
 
2012-12-12 12:42:39 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: sprawl15: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: But surely you can see how the initial explosion of poop can be so blinding and surprising that you're just flailing around in a neverending torrent of the stuff, trying to wipe it out of your eyes and running around blind and stumbling knee deep in crap while the asshole just keeps spewing and spewing and spewing.

No. I can't imagine being so shocked by something that I would just wallow in an ever growing lake of shiat rather than get up and run away.

Then you've never taken a poop apocalypse right to the face. That much is clear.


Not for a solid hour, at any rate.
 
2012-12-12 12:43:00 PM

SlothB77: Dear Republicans,

Step 1) Let the democrats raise taxes.
Step 2) Do nothing.
Step 3) Win in 2016

Why is this so hard?

If the options are: democrats raising taxes alone or the republicans making a deal with democrats that involves raising taxes, let democrats raise taxes alone. Republicans are the party of low taxes and economic freedom. What do we have left if we compromise that core value?
If people think our current economic woes are the result of too-low taxes, they will see the truth. If republicans think the economy will get worse when taxes are raised, then don't share in the blame. Let the blame fall solely on democrats.


You are now marked as, "Deep cover liberal mole."
 
2012-12-12 12:43:35 PM

sprawl15: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: sprawl15: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: But surely you can see how the initial explosion of poop can be so blinding and surprising that you're just flailing around in a neverending torrent of the stuff, trying to wipe it out of your eyes and running around blind and stumbling knee deep in crap while the asshole just keeps spewing and spewing and spewing.

No. I can't imagine being so shocked by something that I would just wallow in an ever growing lake of shiat rather than get up and run away.

Then you've never taken a poop apocalypse right to the face. That much is clear.

Not for a solid hour, at any rate.


Then you, sir, have not lived.
 
2012-12-12 12:48:28 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Senator-elect Ted Cruz gives a speech, proves GOP learned nothing from the election. Link

This misunderstanding explains how Cruz came up with "opportunity conservatism," which is not a new policy agenda, but rather a new way to market conservatives' existing policy agenda. He says "we need to conceptualize, we need to articulate conservative domestic policy with a laser focus on opportunity, on easing the means of ascent up the economic ladder." In other words, he thinks tight money and a smaller safety net are good for middle-income Americans, and we just need to explain to them why.


I'm telling you, the GOP is nothing but a bunch of these guys.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-12 12:49:53 PM
What didn't work? Thinking that The Secret would work as a Presidential campaign strategy.

What did work? Bilking ignorant, pissing their pants scared, billionaires into donating untraceable, unaccountable millions into black hole Super Pacs, never to be seen again. 

/sorry Sheldon, no Israel via USA proxy war with Iran, not yours, cannot haz.
 
2012-12-12 12:58:31 PM
My suggestion to Republicans, stick with the rape stuff. It worked great for the Democrats.
 
2012-12-12 12:59:23 PM

Bag of Hammers: What didn't work? Thinking that The Secret would work as a Presidential campaign strategy.


That's the best description of Romney's campaign I have heard so far.
 
2012-12-12 01:05:15 PM
What worked:

* Sleep - Necessary for health and no gaffs for 8 hour period.
* Eating - RomneyBot 1.0 stopped for a while and died.

What didn't work
* Crappy candidates
* Crappy platforms
* Lack of solutions
* History of obstructionism
* Hatred for 47% of the voting public

Yeah, how they lost was a mystery.
 
2012-12-12 01:26:46 PM
I think the whole slut-shaming thing was working for them. They should continue to focus on that for the next election.
 
2012-12-12 01:26:58 PM
This will be just another Republican circle jerk, much like the campaign was. Any conclusions they reach will not have a damned thing to do with reality.
 
2012-12-12 01:34:07 PM
What worked: persuading some people to vote for them.
What didn't: persuading enough people to vote for them.

Obvious approaches:
1) Changing who votes, by
1.1) More effective get-out-the-vote targeting of GOP-likely voters
1.2) Voter supression of Democratic-likely voters (which is illegal if proven, so don't get caught)
2) Become more effective at persuading people of the GOP message
3) Change the GOP message to one enough people can be persuaded to accept
 
2012-12-12 01:42:39 PM

Graffito: I think the whole slut-shaming thing was working for them. They should continue to focus on that for the next election.


This. They lost focus and went off message. Some Republicans were calling them sluts and others were saying that if they enjoyed rape it wasn't legitimate and they couldn't get pregnant. Others claiming that some women "rape easy" and others that rape-babies are God's will and a gift.

All over the map. They need to be clear and on message - always.

1. women are sluts
2. rape is good
3. abortion is always murder

Take ownership of the issues or the issues will own you. The equivocated too much and that is why they lost.
 
2012-12-12 02:00:07 PM

sprawl15: No. I can't imagine being so shocked by something that I would just wallow in an ever growing lake of shiat rather than get up and run away.


What if you're contractually obligated to stay for the duration?
 
2012-12-12 02:05:43 PM

Deucednuisance: sprawl15: No. I can't imagine being so shocked by something that I would just wallow in an ever growing lake of shiat rather than get up and run away.

What if you're contractually obligated to stay for the duration?


Are you suggesting Obama was contractually obliged to not call Romney out on his bullshiat?
 
2012-12-12 02:05:49 PM

Parthenogenetic: What's so wrong about that? Haven't you heard of the aphorism "What's good for GM is good for America?"

Well, what's good the for the Republican base is what's good for America, because the Republican base IS America. Real America. The America that beat the British Empire, won two World Wars, and won the Cold War.

The American Left caused America to lose the Vietnam War, would have surrendered to the Communists, and now wants to surrender to the Islamofascists.

Don't be fooled by liberal propaganda. Take the "rape baby" non-controversy. Instead of screaming about a women's non-existent right to abortion on demand, why aren't we doing more to prevent rape babies in the first place? If abstinence education were taught to every schoolkid, then more sluts would have the moral fiber to Just Say No To Rape - voila, problem solved. But of course that would undermine the trillion dollar abortion industry, who are the main contributors to the feminazis behind the liberal family-destroying agenda.

I do concede that maybe the GOP could be doing a better job of packaging our message. Instead of stating "knocked-up sluts need to keep their rape babies - the power of Christ compels you", maybe we should be saying "We're sorry about the bad choices you've made that led to this. But look on the bright side - Jesus has given you an unconsensual, unanticipated gift of human life." I mean, you don't technically consent to a surprise birthday party, do you? That would spoil the surprise. But even though you didn't approve of it or expect it, it's still a gift. Who would want to abort their own surprise birthday party?


Farker, I post with Pocket Ninja. I know Pocket Ninja. Pocket Ninja is a friend of mine. Farker, you are no Pocket Ninja.

/Still got the "Funny" click from me
 
2012-12-12 02:11:12 PM

sprawl15: Are you suggesting Obama was contractually obliged to not call Romney out on his bullshiat?


You said "run away" not "ask that the shiat machine be turned off".
 
2012-12-12 02:15:27 PM
30 seconds? Padding the schedule.
 
2012-12-12 02:19:49 PM
I'll save them a lot of time and money:

The system worked.
 
2012-12-12 02:21:07 PM
1. Terrible messaging strategy. The negatives were largely based on lies (Jeep) and taking things out of context (you didn't build that). You must be deep in the echo chamber to think most Americans would buy that Obama really meant that government built every business and the owners didn't. Puhleeze.

The positives were also weak: Romney didn't pivot to the center until well after the convention. He needed to do that at least as soon as he had the nomination locked up, and really, earlier. Some charges of RINO early on might have helped independents think he wasn't part and parcel of the extreme wing of the GOP

2. No microtargeting. This was a huge difference between Obama and Romney. If a family has, say, a special needs child, make sure every email/phone call/web ad that reaches them pushes that button. This gets you motivated voters

3. Too much focus on motivating their base. "Makers and takers", socialists, all of these portrayals of the left as crazed demons out to destroy capitalism - these things don't work. Romney's own father relied on public assistance at one point.

4. Too negative. It was all about how terrible the other side was, how people on assistance are destroying the country, etc. Reagan won on a message of hope, Bush 43 won on a message of compassionate conservatism. Don't condemn someone for not paying federal income taxes, promise that an improving economy will pull them in to the middle class and let them contribute, and then talk about what that means - giving more people a stake in government spending choices.
 
2012-12-12 02:40:00 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: sprawl15: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: If a sewer main exploded all over you, you'd have no choice but to stand their dumbfounded while you were covered in gallons of sh*t, too.

It wasn't an explosion of feces, it was a persistent waterfall. You have no excuse for getting out of the way of a fountain of ass when it's spraying for more than an hour.

But surely you can see how the initial explosion of poop can be so blinding and surprising that you're just flailing around in a neverending torrent of the stuff, trying to wipe it out of your eyes and running around blind and stumbling knee deep in crap while the asshole just keeps spewing and spewing and spewing.


Dafuq are you 2 going on about?

/on second thought, nvm, don't tell me
 
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