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2012-12-11 09:35:26 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Kit Fister: AssAsInAssassin: Kit Fister: GAT_00: ronaprhys: Face it - you've got nothing to stand on here.

Yeah, mass murder is nothing worth stopping.

 

Freedom means innocents die for no farking reason. Gotta love the NRA.

Wake me when the criminals and psychos get the memo to stop butchering people, drunk drivers stop driving and killing people, and people stop using religion or politics as an excuse to butcher each other.

Face it, we're a violent species, life is fleeting, and the more crowded we get the more people will die for stupid shiat. Banning guns may make a tiny dent, but it ain't gonna stop

Right. Let's not even try to prevent murders. Hell, people will always break the law. Why even have laws? I say we just hang everyone.

Because its reasonable to abridge the freedoms and rights of people if it means that we can save then from themselves, right?

Those who give up liberty in the name of security deserve neither. - Ben Franklin

Further, I prefer to live life and accept the risks of it than to allow asshats like you determine what is and is not a reasonable measure to take to "protect" me.

But thinks like background checks and CCW permits are ok correct?


Reasonable methods to prevent known criminals and threats from havin free reign in such a way that does not hinder the exercise of a right is fine.

I have no issues subjecting myself to classes, background checks, and other such as they don't stop me from freely exercising my rights once performed. Like a doctor's checkup or similar.

It's the deliberate desire to restrict or remove a right that is unacceptable.
 
2012-12-11 09:35:53 PM  

Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.


you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?
 
2012-12-11 09:36:02 PM  

vygramul: OregonVet: It's not unreasonable to suggest these are planned to promote the hysteria.

That's pretty much the definition of terrorism.


Not as high-tech as lighting cats on fire and sending them into sugar cane fields....

Somacandra: OregonVet: It's not unreasonable to suggest these are planned to promote the hysteria.

You mean beyond the guy who obviously planned and executed it for the purpose of causing hysteria?


Seems to have our attention.
 
2012-12-11 09:36:27 PM  
Shooter killed himself, law enforcement didn't fire so they're just assuming. 2 dead plus the shooter, one significant transported to the hospital. They're pretty sure they've notified the families involved, otherwise they're probably still talking to police.

Mall will post info for customers, employees, and businesses online. Closed until police are ready, so that's a big hit for retailers.
 
2012-12-11 09:36:59 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I have a childhood, boy scout fondness for bolt-action rifles....that sounds dirty, somehow


I completely agree. I remember my bolt-action play rifle and real rifle both quite fondly. And I enjoyed that snug secure feeling and *clack* of opening and closing the bolt-action at those right angles. I'm not afraid to say there was something kinda sexy about it either.
 
2012-12-11 09:37:03 PM  

AssAsInAssassin: Kit Fister: But we as a country don't punish the law abiding because of the criminals

We also don't stop law-abiding citizens from BECOMING criminals, dipshiat.

Jeebus, you sound like a parody of yourself. Why do you love your guns more than you love peace?


has anyone pointed out the irony in someone with your nickname advocating for peace yet?
 
2012-12-11 09:37:58 PM  

Dimensio: AssAsInAssassin: Dimensio: AssAsInAssassin: BlippityBleep: AssAsInAssassin: BlippityBleep: the swiss are laughing at the idea that lots of guns are the problem.

And sane people are laughing at you.

/When we're not crying about you.

do you have a counterpoint about how the swiss run an amazing country, they're peaceful, and just about everyone has an automatic weapon? or are you just sticking with character attack.

No, I think it's enough to point out that you pointed out that just about everyone in Switzerland has an automatic weapon, that those automatic weapons didn't save the 60+ kids from getting murdered, but one of them helped a psychopath murder them. Thank you for making my point better than I could have hoped to.

Which "psychopath" in Switzerland used an automatic weapon, from Switzerland, to murder 60+ children?

Excuse me. Norway. I was going off what's-his-name's post. It was Norway. I was wrong. Norway is a country with no gun-control laws, no guns, and no gun violence. That completely obviates my post. Forgive my lapse into farking stupidity.

I am accustomed to "stupidity" from civilian disarmament advocates, especially from those who have openly advocate abridgment of civil liberties, without due process, based upon secret lists.


Pssst should we tell him that gun ownership is legal in Norway, and they have a fairly active shooting community there? Same as in Fance, Finland, and Sweden...
 
2012-12-11 09:38:23 PM  

vygramul: BravadoGT: You and others use that phrase because it frightens the less-educated public ("ASSAULT weapon? that sounds so aggressive, like military weapons. People don't need weapons designed for 'assault' for defense?"

By failing to acknowledge the distinction between military-style and civilian style-firearms, you allow people to confuse the two. But then again--that's exactly the point, right?

I don't think you read my posts very much if that's what you think. I own a Stag Arms AR-15.

Maybe as a Virginian, we're not worried about the state taking our weapons, so we're not gun-shy (ha!) about the semantics.


Nope! Don't know you from Adam. So mea culpas if I misapplied the sentiment to you, but the point stands: the media and the left intentionally misuse the term "assault rifle" to evoke a negative reaction in people.

/have a Stag AR too! 1L--love having a real lefty gun
 
2012-12-11 09:38:39 PM  
Has this been called an act of terrorism yet?
 
2012-12-11 09:38:42 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: vygramul: Adolf Oliver Nipples: "Assault weapons-just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms-are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons-anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun-can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. In addition, few people can envision a practical use for these weapons."

-Josh Sugarmann, Assault Weapons and Accessories in America, 1988

Reposted from earlier because you just proved his point and made mine.

*shrug*

Walk into any gun store in VA and say you want to buy an assault rifle, and they'll show you an AR-15 (or similar) without any hesitation. There's a difference between a semi-automatic handgun and a revolver, and there's a difference between an AR-15 and a hunting rifle. Again: "Assault rifle" in this context conveys accurate information to anyone who knows anything about firearms.

In short, this complaint doesn't impress me.

It wouldn't have impressed me either if it hadn't predicted the legal environment of the next 25 years. Since I'm not terribly interested in seeing a repeat, I post that to ensure that the distinction never gets blurred again by people like you who are seemingly disinterested in the truth.


The truth is that CraicBaby probably understood completely what I was talking about when I said "assault rifle".

As a result, only truth was transmitted, and only truth was received. That's what I care about. Semantics - not so much.
 
2012-12-11 09:38:55 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?


Completely different culture and values?
 
2012-12-11 09:39:21 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?


Not like sarin attacks by religious nutjobs in subways. Nah, that shiat never happens....wonder why?
 
2012-12-11 09:39:25 PM  
Adult male, and there's a lot that is not known by the public information officer. If you ask it, he probably doesn't know it.
 
2012-12-11 09:40:12 PM  

Somacandra: Kit Fister: Sure and I'll be glad to keep being able to offer the guy with a dead battery a jump, help that pregnant lady change a flat, bandage up the kid who cuts himself at the company picnic, and be able to stay warm when my vehicle doesn't start in the dead of winter.

Unless you have an artificial vagina in that grab bag, you are definitely not prepared for all circumstances.


Well I wasn't going to say anything about that... >.>
 
2012-12-11 09:40:24 PM  

Kit Fister: Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?

Completely different culture and values?


True.

Japan doesn't glorify violence like we do in the US.
 
2012-12-11 09:41:03 PM  

Kit Fister: Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?

Completely different culture and values?


Because they prefer to get stabby. Or tentacley.
 
2012-12-11 09:41:04 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: I post that to ensure that the distinction never gets blurred again by people like you who are seemingly disinterested in the truth.


You should be angry at the manufacturers who deliberately design their weapons to give the public impression they give. Semi-automatic rifles don't have to look like pseudo-military-style testosterone injections they often do. But they want to indulge people to play like they're in the army or something. They like that fantasy and it helps sell those kinds of weapons. Make them all pink or plaid, I say.
 
2012-12-11 09:41:30 PM  
Popcorn Johnny

>>> Criminals and not jobs don't care about signs.

Because you'd totally engage a shooter and take him out, right?

You mean like the dozen or so examples I've posted in the other "ban the guns" hysteria threads?


cameroncrazy1984

>>> Great Janitor: Gun control - when you're at a mall and you see a shooter, pull out your
>>> legally concealed firearm, and put two slugs into the shooters chest.

I wonder why nobody who is actually involved in a mass shooting has never done this before.
You mean like the dozen or so examples I've posted in the other "ban the guns" hysteria threads?


Don't let facts get in the way of your preconceived opinions though.
 
2012-12-11 09:42:06 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Kit Fister: Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?

Completely different culture and values?

True.

Japan doesn't glorify violence like we do in the US.


Really? Are we watching the same anime and reason the same manga?
 
2012-12-11 09:42:06 PM  

BravadoGT: vygramul: BravadoGT: You and others use that phrase because it frightens the less-educated public ("ASSAULT weapon? that sounds so aggressive, like military weapons. People don't need weapons designed for 'assault' for defense?"

By failing to acknowledge the distinction between military-style and civilian style-firearms, you allow people to confuse the two. But then again--that's exactly the point, right?

I don't think you read my posts very much if that's what you think. I own a Stag Arms AR-15.

Maybe as a Virginian, we're not worried about the state taking our weapons, so we're not gun-shy (ha!) about the semantics.

Nope! Don't know you from Adam. So mea culpas if I misapplied the sentiment to you, but the point stands: the media and the left intentionally misuse the term "assault rifle" to evoke a negative reaction in people.

/have a Stag AR too! 1L--love having a real lefty gun


It's quite nice. I lucked into some accessories, including a few mags, when my friend screwed up and his wife made him get rid of his gun. (Their agreement was he wouldn't keep it at home. He did, she found out and made him turn it in to the police to be destroyed, but let him give me all his mags and ammo.)

Now I just need a .357 to take advantage of his speed-loaders and .357 rounds.
 
2012-12-11 09:42:10 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?

Not like sarin attacks by religious nutjobs in subways. Nah, that shiat never happens....wonder why?


Oh gee did they legalize carrying Sarin gas?

Way to deflect. Sure sign of a losing argument there
 
2012-12-11 09:42:18 PM  

Somacandra: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: I have a childhood, boy scout fondness for bolt-action rifles....that sounds dirty, somehow

I completely agree. I remember my bolt-action play rifle and real rifle both quite fondly. And I enjoyed that snug secure feeling and *clack* of opening and closing the bolt-action at those right angles. I'm not afraid to say there was something kinda sexy about it either.


My favorite gun is my Grandpas old bolt action 22 (first gun I ever shot). There is something about a bolt action that just makes shooting more fun to me. Kind of like driving a car with a stickshift.
 
2012-12-11 09:42:45 PM  
AssAsInAssassin:

Yes! And the gun-nut party does everything they can to be sure that psychopaths get those guns. Any effort to prevent psychopaths from getting guns is met with cries of "COMMIE!!!" and "Why do you hate America?" and "Obama is comin' fer our guns!!!" and "\HOW WE STOP COMMIE OBAMA IF'N WE AIN'T GOT OUR GUNS???"

Now you're just getting retarded because I pointed out that you'd tripped over your own dogma back there.

I'm sure at this point you realize your argument has lost ground and now you've retreated to a middle-school mocking..that's ok, I like to see foolish people act foolish.

I'll reiterate my point though. Psychopaths bent on destruction, will find a way. Even if you take away everybody's guns, knives, pepper-spray, fireworks, gasolin, sarin gas, etc etc...they will;

Fly fully loaded and fueled jetliners into high-rise office complexes - 3,267 or so dead and climbing
Make 4000lb bombs from fertilizer and diesel fuel (Oklahoma City bombing) 168 dead
Eat someones farking face off! Ooooh....better take away everybody's farking teeth!
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/face-eating-cannibal-attack-latest-bath - salts-incident/story?id=16470389

Are you even aware of the Bath School Massacre of 1927? The only firearm related death was when the murderer used a shotgun to detonate more dynamite!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

Here's a thought for you, YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE AWAY HUMAN MADNESS.
 
2012-12-11 09:43:37 PM  

Mugato: Has this been called an act of terrorism yet?


i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-11 09:43:42 PM  

Kit Fister: Mrtraveler01: Kit Fister: Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?

Completely different culture and values?

True.

Japan doesn't glorify violence like we do in the US.

Really? Are we watching the same anime and reason the same manga?


Probably not, mine won't go past the content filter at work.
 
2012-12-11 09:43:45 PM  

MooseUpNorth: aimtastic: What a horrible thing to happen when people were just trying to celebrate the birth of Clacka.

I was just about to make an inappropriate and ill-timed joke about the War on Clackamas, but I see it would be redundant.


Your morning talk show has been cancelled and all related advertising has been pulled. Also, those responsive for this post have been sacked.
 
2012-12-11 09:44:41 PM  

grunthos: I'll reiterate my point though. Psychopaths bent on destruction, will find a way. Even if you take away everybody's guns, knives, pepper-spray, fireworks, gasolin, sarin gas, etc etc...they will;


most won't go to the trouble. Most homicides are because someone with a gun got pissed off and it was handy.
 
2012-12-11 09:45:08 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Kit Fister: Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?

Completely different culture and values?

True.

Japan doesn't glorify violence like we do in the US.


Yeah, they don't--wait, what?
 
2012-12-11 09:45:11 PM  

Kit Fister: Mrtraveler01: Kit Fister: Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?

Completely different culture and values?

True.

Japan doesn't glorify violence like we do in the US.

Really? Are we watching the same anime and reason the same manga?


Futanari motorcycle races in space?
 
2012-12-11 09:45:27 PM  

Bathia_Mapes:
Glad to hear you and your family are okay.


Thanks--it was definitely unnerving.

And not to get all "My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night" but my coworker's son's girlfriend's mom was in Macy's and saw it happen. Christ.
 
2012-12-11 09:45:58 PM  

BravadoGT: You and others use that phrase because it frightens the less-educated public ("ASSAULT weapon? that sounds so aggressive, like military weapons. People don't need weapons designed for 'assault' for defense?"


I think people get confused because they think the A in AR-15 stands for "Assault" when it actually means Armalite, for the company that created it.
If anything its more of a modern follow on to the M1 carbine with a higher velocity round.

/A round designed specifically for its accuracy, low recoil, and flat trajectory.
/Performance that came at a heavy cost to its lethality... ironically enough.
 
2012-12-11 09:46:01 PM  

grunthos: AssAsInAssassin:

Yes! And the gun-nut party does everything they can to be sure that psychopaths get those guns. Any effort to prevent psychopaths from getting guns is met with cries of "COMMIE!!!" and "Why do you hate America?" and "Obama is comin' fer our guns!!!" and "\HOW WE STOP COMMIE OBAMA IF'N WE AIN'T GOT OUR GUNS???"

Now you're just getting retarded because I pointed out that you'd tripped over your own dogma back there.

I'm sure at this point you realize your argument has lost ground and now you've retreated to a middle-school mocking..that's ok, I like to see foolish people act foolish.

I'll reiterate my point though. Psychopaths bent on destruction, will find a way. Even if you take away everybody's guns, knives, pepper-spray, fireworks, gasolin, sarin gas, etc etc...they will;

Fly fully loaded and fueled jetliners into high-rise office complexes - 3,267 or so dead and climbing
Make 4000lb bombs from fertilizer and diesel fuel (Oklahoma City bombing) 168 dead
Eat someones farking face off! Ooooh....better take away everybody's farking teeth!
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/face-eating-cannibal-attack-latest-bath - salts-incident/story?id=16470389

Are you even aware of the Bath School Massacre of 1927? The only firearm related death was when the murderer used a shotgun to detonate more dynamite!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

Here's a thought for you, YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE AWAY HUMAN MADNESS.


I accept that humans can be evil, violent creatures. Instead of trying to change the Nature of the species, I settle for being able to stay out of their way mostly, and being able to defend myself if I have shiatty luck
 
2012-12-11 09:46:14 PM  

Tellingthem: There is something about a bolt action that just makes shooting more fun to me. Kind of like driving a car with a stickshift.


Yeah, that's exactly how I would describe it too, actually :-) I never had that same fun with a lever-action, for example. And to correct myself, I think it was lever-action rifles that were used in those Speed Racer sequences.
 
2012-12-11 09:46:18 PM  
More evidence that the dude was a terrible shot: An eyewitness on Twitter said that the shooter looked straight at him and aimed, but he missed.
 
2012-12-11 09:46:20 PM  
MrKoon

Shoot apparently was wearing body armor...


Just like the Theater shooter in Colorado huh?
cops lied to you
 
2012-12-11 09:46:21 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?


My guess has more to do with the idea that Japan is not a gun culture like we are, regardless of the gun laws.
 
2012-12-11 09:47:38 PM  

FunkOut: Kit Fister: Mrtraveler01: Kit Fister: Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?

Completely different culture and values?

True.

Japan doesn't glorify violence like we do in the US.

Really? Are we watching the same anime and reason the same manga?

Futanari motorcycle races in space?


I have the weirdest boner right now...
 
2012-12-11 09:47:40 PM  

Hobodeluxe: fanbladesaresharp: Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?

Not like sarin attacks by religious nutjobs in subways. Nah, that shiat never happens....wonder why?

Oh gee did they legalize carrying Sarin gas?

Way to deflect. Sure sign of a losing argument there


Legalizing drugs would do way more in reducing gun violence than making guns illegal. The year DC was, "murder capital of the world," 84% of the homicides were drug-related. If guns are illegal, they'll just ship them inside bales of marijuana.

That's not to say it wouldn't eventually have an impact on domestic murder and school shootings. (I say eventually because you're even LESS likely to round up all the guns than you are to round up all the illegal aliens.)
 
2012-12-11 09:48:05 PM  

Dallymo: And not to get all "My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night" but my coworker's son's girlfriend's mom was in Macy's and saw it happen. Christ.


My father works at the Stillwater, OK school where that kid blew his brains out in the hallway a few weeks ago. Especially until you know they're ok, it makes you want to throw up.
 
2012-12-11 09:48:40 PM  

PowerSlacker

The shooter is "neutralized" according the local police. That's an awesome phrase.

Translation: Shooter committed suicide as (s)he planned to and the impotent doughnut munchers are taking credit.
 
2012-12-11 09:48:50 PM  

Kit Fister: FunkOut: Kit Fister: Mrtraveler01: Kit Fister: Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?

Completely different culture and values?

True.

Japan doesn't glorify violence like we do in the US.

Really? Are we watching the same anime and reason the same manga?

Futanari motorcycle races in space?

I have the weirdest boner right now...


That tends to happen to me too when I watch the kind of anime I watch.
 
2012-12-11 09:49:27 PM  

Somacandra: Tellingthem: There is something about a bolt action that just makes shooting more fun to me. Kind of like driving a car with a stickshift.

Yeah, that's exactly how I would describe it too, actually :-) I never had that same fun with a lever-action, for example. And to correct myself, I think it was lever-action rifles that were used in those Speed Racer sequences.


I can take or leave semi auto rifles, for the most part, save for their necessity in 3-gun matches, but I do love long range accuracy shooting, and that takes a bolt gun.
 
2012-12-11 09:49:48 PM  
The police confirmed that the shooter took his own life.
 
2012-12-11 09:50:02 PM  

Clutch2013: Mrtraveler01: Kit Fister: Hobodeluxe: Fark It: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

It's never too early for gun control advocates to spout smug, sanctimonious, and vague suggestions that amount to 90s-era Brady Campaign pipe dreams.

you don't hear about this kind of stuff happening in Japan. Wonder why?

Completely different culture and values?

True.

Japan doesn't glorify violence like we do in the US.

Yeah, they don't--wait, what?


Everyone knows their anime is all just Bronies.
 
2012-12-11 09:50:21 PM  

CraicBaby: More evidence that the dude was a terrible shot: An eyewitness on Twitter said that the shooter looked straight at him and aimed, but he missed.


Actually, that may be evidence that the shooter was using a Mini-14 and not an AR-15.
 
2012-12-11 09:50:26 PM  

Kit Fister: Here's a thought for you, YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE AWAY HUMAN MADNESS.


so let's give all the crazy people access to guns!!!!
 
2012-12-11 09:50:36 PM  

davidphogan: I should be in the kitchen: Too bad Portlanders are all a bunch of pussy liberals, an armed Real American(TM) could've taken down the suspect with one shot without a chance of accidentally hitting the panicking customers running about.

/should be pretty OBVIOUS that was sarcasm
//Not pro- or anti-gun. I own one but think it would be incredibly irresponsible to pull it out in a crowded, enclosed space like a mall.

I know you were joking, but more Portlanders with CCW than I've met anywhere else I've spent time. It's really, really easy to get one as long as you don't apply in Multnomah County.


I grew up to the west of Portland, where suburbia meets farmland... It's an interesting mix up there of hippies, hipsters, and hicks.
 
2012-12-11 09:51:51 PM  
blog.boironusa.com
 
2012-12-11 09:52:02 PM  

way south: BravadoGT: You and others use that phrase because it frightens the less-educated public ("ASSAULT weapon? that sounds so aggressive, like military weapons. People don't need weapons designed for 'assault' for defense?"

I think people get confused because they think the A in AR-15 stands for "Assault" when it actually means Armalite, for the company that created it.
If anything its more of a modern follow on to the M1 carbine with a higher velocity round.

/A round designed specifically for its accuracy, low recoil, and flat trajectory.
/Performance that came at a heavy cost to its lethality... ironically enough.


Not sure I buy the lethality drop. Just ask the Marines on Okinawa if a 6mm round has lethality issues.
 
2012-12-11 09:52:18 PM  

I should be in the kitchen: davidphogan: I should be in the kitchen: Too bad Portlanders are all a bunch of pussy liberals, an armed Real American(TM) could've taken down the suspect with one shot without a chance of accidentally hitting the panicking customers running about.

/should be pretty OBVIOUS that was sarcasm
//Not pro- or anti-gun. I own one but think it would be incredibly irresponsible to pull it out in a crowded, enclosed space like a mall.

I know you were joking, but more Portlanders with CCW than I've met anywhere else I've spent time. It's really, really easy to get one as long as you don't apply in Multnomah County.

I grew up to the west of Portland, where suburbia meets farmland... It's an interesting mix up there of hippies, hipsters, and hicks.


So it's basically like suburban Denver where the theater shooting took place. Interesting.

Seems like a lot more shootings happen more out West than they do out East (Virginia Tech being the exception)
 
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