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(KPTV Portland) NewsFlash Live coverage of a mall shooting in the Portland suburb of Clackamas. Early reports of two people dead   (kptv.com ) divider line
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2012-12-11 08:03:41 PM  
i.imgur.com

Yay morbid fascination!

/Virtuosity
 
2012-12-11 08:04:02 PM  
Yikes! Used to live over there and have an ex who has yet to respond to an SMS sent out a couple moments ago. Scary stuff.

/area is known as Felony Flats if I recall correctly
 
2012-12-11 08:04:15 PM  

Fista-Phobia: [c498390.r90.cf2.rackcdn.com image 500x281]


Hey! Fox Newz learned how to count to five!
 
2012-12-11 08:04:18 PM  

lvl0rg4n: The Eclipse in the theater parking lot is me! Not able to leave yet. Biggest accomplishment of the day: not pissing my pants during a shooting. I didn't get to buy my boots either.


Glad you're okay. Did you hear/see any of it?

Apparently the shooter screamed, "I'm the shooter" before opening fire.
 
2012-12-11 08:04:57 PM  

lvl0rg4n: The Eclipse in the theater parking lot is me! Not able to leave yet. Biggest accomplishment of the day: not pissing my pants during a shooting. I didn't get to buy my boots either.



Glad you're okay.
 
2012-12-11 08:05:04 PM  
www.washingtonpost.com
 
2012-12-11 08:05:20 PM  

Somacandra: i.imgur.com

Oblig #1


What exactly is the point of writing a webcomic if you just use the same picture over and over?
 
2012-12-11 08:05:25 PM  
In before 500 comments saying this is because of pussy libs and gun control.
 
2012-12-11 08:05:30 PM  
What's the over/under on finding out the guy has mental health issues and/or was already suspected to be a danger to himself or others by some psychiatrist?
 
2012-12-11 08:05:36 PM  
www.troll.me
 
2012-12-11 08:05:37 PM  

KhamanV: So how would chucklefark here do this with a knife, as is the cute bullshiat false comparison? I wish I had that Tom Tomorrow strip handy.


um, this guy managed to kill 8 people with a knife. wouldn't that make a knife more dangerous?

Link
 
2012-12-11 08:05:50 PM  

lvl0rg4n: The Eclipse in the theater parking lot is me! Not able to leave yet. Biggest accomplishment of the day: not pissing my pants during a shooting. I didn't get to buy my boots either.


Are You real???
 
2012-12-11 08:05:54 PM  

Mike_LowELL: Somacandra: i.imgur.com

Oblig #1

What exactly is the point of writing a webcomic if you just use the same picture over and over?


Guess you're also not a fan of Dinsaur Comics. Sad, really, because those are awesome.
 
2012-12-11 08:06:13 PM  
Oh, Paul Blart II?

/electric boogaloo....
 
2012-12-11 08:06:15 PM  
link fail
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044368750457756451282640 6 388.html
 
2012-12-11 08:06:20 PM  

lvl0rg4n: The Eclipse in the theater parking lot is me! Not able to leave yet. Biggest accomplishment of the day: not pissing my pants during a shooting. I didn't get to buy my boots either.


Glad you're okay!
 
2012-12-11 08:06:32 PM  
I'd run, too if I was in Fuego.
 
2012-12-11 08:06:40 PM  

ronaprhys: MayoSlather: Mrbogey: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

America has some of the most sensible gun laws in the world. We target behavior for prohibition and not wholesale elimination. Should we really try and mimic nations with more violent crime like Mexico and the United Kingdom by enacting harsher laws?

America has a crime problem because we have a crime culture.

So your argument is since we have such a crime culture that we might as well make sure they are properly armed.

wonderful strawman. well played.


I liked it.
 
2012-12-11 08:07:03 PM  

wildcardjack: www.troll.me


In Clackamas there's little to no chance it was a hipster.
 
2012-12-11 08:07:08 PM  

Mrbogey: MayoSlather: So your argument is since we have such a crime culture that we might as well make sure they are properly armed.

No, my argument is that people who want to ban guns aren't able to comprehend how silly their arguments are due to the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

We have a prohibition on arming criminals in America. We make sure non-criminals can arm themselves.


I thought it was the Kruger-Brent Effect

// obscure
 
2012-12-11 08:07:16 PM  

Cats_Lie: Fun mall fact: Clackamas is/was known to host the ice skating rink in which Tanya Harding was a regular.


WRONG! The Ice Rink is the Lloyd Center.
 
2012-12-11 08:07:20 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I wonder why nobody who is actually involved in a mass shooting has never done this before. With the number of times it's been suggested, if it's a plausible assertion you'd think it would have happened at least once.


Link

Mass shootings are statistically rare though.
 
2012-12-11 08:07:27 PM  
More likely than a good citizen with a gun taking out a random shooter or assassin before he can do heavy damage, I think we'll see a story in some area with a lot of conceal carry where 3 people try to play heroes, all end up shooting each other out of their confusion and inability to process the situation beyond thinking "this is it, this is my moment to prove why I've been doing this!" and then the actual gunman gets away.

Naturally the loss of life would be sad, but it'd be one of the more productive losses of life in terms of proving points.
 
2012-12-11 08:07:56 PM  

davidphogan: lvl0rg4n: The Eclipse in the theater parking lot is me! Not able to leave yet. Biggest accomplishment of the day: not pissing my pants during a shooting. I didn't get to buy my boots either.

Glad you're okay. Did you hear/see any of it?

Apparently the shooter screamed, "I'm the shooter" before opening fire.


I was downstairs at Macy's. I didn't see anything but heard the gunshots and ran with some people into a store.
 
2012-12-11 08:08:16 PM  
Should have gone to Lloyd Center
 
2012-12-11 08:08:37 PM  

clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?


i.imgur.com

Oblig TMW #2

I'm a fan of firearms myself, but I agree along with Mr. Tomorrow: I don't understand why bullets are available for purchase over the Internet and Sudafed is not. There is something profoundly wrong with that. Bullets are as deadly as Meth.
 
2012-12-11 08:08:38 PM  

Combustion: Cats_Lie: Fun mall fact: Clackamas is/was known to host the ice skating rink in which Tanya Harding was a regular.

WRONG! The Ice Rink is the Lloyd Center.


There used to be an ice rink in Clackamas TC as well. It closed in 2005-2006.
 
2012-12-11 08:08:55 PM  

clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?


Never after a senseless mass shooting. Since there's one or two a week, well the problem just takes care of itself
 
2012-12-11 08:09:00 PM  

MrKoon: Great Janitor: Gun control - when you're at a mall and you see a shooter, pull out your legally concealed firearm, and put two slugs into the shooters chest.

Shoot apparently was wearing body armor...

/Portlander
//Never go to sketchy Clackamas


It's not a video game, even wearing body armor you're gonna hurt taking a shot in the armor. A broken rib, possible internal injuries.

cameroncrazy1984: Great Janitor: Gun control - when you're at a mall and you see a shooter, pull out your legally concealed firearm, and put two slugs into the shooters chest.

I wonder why nobody who is actually involved in a mass shooting has never done this before. With the number of times it's been suggested, if it's a plausible assertion you'd think it would have happened at least once.


As someone already pointed out, there was a sign saying that no guns were allowed in the mall. So that's a reason why no one returned fire this time. Though a bigger reason why is that we have law after law after law preventing where law abiding citizens can legally carry fire arms, creating areas where criminals can carry weapons knowing full well that no one can legally shoot back at them. Make the gun control laws as simple as "No one who is a felon or has documented mental illnesses can even attempt to purchase/carry/own a firearm" and then we can allow law abiding citizens to defend themselves without fear of legal reprisal. Because honestly, I'm sure a few people in that mall tonight were wishing that of all the times to have a gun to defend themselves, tonight was that night.

The biggest problem with gun control laws is that it assumes criminals follow the laws.
 
2012-12-11 08:09:17 PM  

Kit Fister: What's the over/under on finding out the guy has mental health issues and/or was already suspected to be a danger to himself or others by some psychiatrist?


Or his parents suspected something was wrong with him but didn't say anything.
 
2012-12-11 08:09:30 PM  
It's funny because I'm buying a house five miles from there.
 
2012-12-11 08:09:43 PM  

Mike_LowELL: What exactly is the point of writing a webcomic if you just use the same picture over and over?


Cause its funny. Like Archer.
 
2012-12-11 08:09:43 PM  

Mrbogey: cameroncrazy1984: I wonder why nobody who is actually involved in a mass shooting has never done this before. With the number of times it's been suggested, if it's a plausible assertion you'd think it would have happened at least once.

Link

Mass shootings are statistically rare though.

http://gunssavelives.net/

looks legit........
 
2012-12-11 08:10:09 PM  

Somacandra: Great Janitor: Gun control - when you're at a mall and you see a shooter, pull out your legally concealed firearm, and put two slugs into the shooters chest.

[i.imgur.com image 670x618]

Oblig #1


I typically like his comics, but that one really had to stretch.
 
2012-12-11 08:10:33 PM  

Mrbogey: cameroncrazy1984: I wonder why nobody who is actually involved in a mass shooting has never done this before. With the number of times it's been suggested, if it's a plausible assertion you'd think it would have happened at least once.

Link

Mass shootings are statistically rare though.


Here's another (a robbery this time).

Link
 
2012-12-11 08:11:02 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Great Janitor: Gun control - when you're at a mall and you see a shooter, pull out your legally concealed firearm, and put two slugs into the shooters chest.

I wonder why nobody who is actually involved in a mass shooting has never done this before. With the number of times it's been suggested, if it's a plausible assertion you'd think it would have happened at least once.


Internet NRA tough guys are probably busy pushing children out of the way to escape
 
2012-12-11 08:11:04 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Guess you're also not a fan of Dinsaur Comics. Sad, really, because those are awesome.


They are, but I don't know any about guns. Of course, if I was a dinosaur I'd just eat the shooter and the gun. So it doesn't matter, really.
 
2012-12-11 08:11:15 PM  
Better yet, Costas (getting his material from another writer) will blame malls.
 
2012-12-11 08:11:33 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: msnbc says shooter "neutralized."


They took him to the vet?
 
2012-12-11 08:11:43 PM  
If everyone in the mall had been packing heat, the death toll would have been much lower.
 
2012-12-11 08:11:55 PM  

clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?


We should adopt Mexico's Gun laws, where there's only one place where they can be legally purchased, a store run by the military where you pretty much have to know someone to be allowed in to look around. There's never any gun crime there.
 
2012-12-11 08:12:02 PM  
His daughter wanted that pink castle thing.
 
2012-12-11 08:12:14 PM  
FFS, how many of these incidents do there have to be before someone in Washington finally bans malls?
 
2012-12-11 08:12:29 PM  

Kit Fister: What's the over/under on finding out the guy has mental health issues and/or was already suspected to be a danger to himself or others by some psychiatrist?


What tipped you off? Was it the hockey mask?
 
2012-12-11 08:13:00 PM  

Somacandra: clancifer: Is it too early to talk about responsible gun legislation?

[i.imgur.com image 720x672]

Oblig TMW #2

I'm a fan of firearms myself, but I agree along with Mr. Tomorrow: I don't understand why bullets are available for purchase over the Internet and Sudafed is not. There is something profoundly wrong with that. Bullets are as deadly as Meth.


You can use multiple bullets for range practice etc. Nobody has a cold requiring several boxes of Sudafed? Seems kinda absurd to compare the two. Mr. Tomorrow is really reaching on this subject matter and he looks like a jackass.
 
2012-12-11 08:13:02 PM  

Pharacyde: I went to my local mall just today. I have a CHP but this mall specifically states "No weapons or firearms allowed, concealed or otherwise."
Makes me think twice about shopping there.

Criminals and not jobs don't care about signs.


Neither do I. At least not that one. As long as the place is not designated "no carry" by statute--the worse they can do is throw me out--and that's if anyone ever saw it. But no way I'm going to a mall during the holidays without mine.
 
2012-12-11 08:13:11 PM  
In Clackamas no one can hear you tweet.
 
2012-12-11 08:13:16 PM  

Pharacyde: Criminals and not jobs don't care about signs.


I feel more like I do now than I did before.
 
2012-12-11 08:13:16 PM  
Gak, mass shootings in mall food courts. Could be in Toronto and see that crapola.

Probably not as gang related as ours was though, more like a lone crazy than a stupid gangsta with very bad aim. We had a few gangstas with terrible aim in our neck of the woods this year.

At any rate, sounds very scary for those around.
 
2012-12-11 08:13:52 PM  
Keep it real Southeast Portland!
 
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