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(Omaha World Herald)   Father-son hunting trip results in what will be a very awkward Christmas   (omaha.com) divider line 22
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2012-12-11 08:22:10 PM  
3 votes:
FTFA: The Omaha father who accidentally shot his 18-year-old son while pheasant hunting in Iowa said Monday that he keeps replaying the accident but can't see what he could've done differently.

Weird. I would have gone with, "Not shoot my son."
2012-12-11 11:49:59 PM  
2 votes:

twistofsin: I'll bet most of the people who criticize the father in this thread have never even hunted in their life, let alone walked on a surface that wasn't paved or floored in the past 10 years.


I have done quite a bit of bird hunting and the "feet don't move when the safety is off" rule is pretty basic. Birds come up, get a good stance, release safety as you are shouldering and then fire.
2012-12-11 11:37:17 PM  
2 votes:
Apparently, keeping his finger off the trigger until he had a stable shooting position and was ready to take the shot weren't options for dear old dad.
2012-12-11 11:33:02 PM  
2 votes:
stuhayes2010: If only guns had safety buttons that would render them safe when loaded, yet allow you to quickly shoot if needed.


I don't care what this guy has to say about his footing. He ended up shooting somebody, there is no way to mitigate that. He still pulled the trigger, which AFAIK is not connected to the foot.

I had to take a Hunter Safety Course in Nebraska and I learned that there is NEVER an excuse for an AD.
2012-12-11 10:59:21 PM  
2 votes:
Too bad he didn't have a gun to defend himself.
2012-12-11 10:32:34 PM  
2 votes:

dahmers love zombie: Yeah, he's probably pretty happy they weren't deer hunting. A head full of #8 or so is gonna hurt like hell, but you'll get better. 2 or 3 pellets of 00 and that's all, folks.



Typically you use #6-4 for pheasant. No matter, high-brass #6 will not feel great.

The dude needed to make sure he was stable before taking that gun off safety. I don't know but things like that usually happen when you have the gun off safe before you bring it up to your shoulder...which you shouldn't do when bird hunting (or any other time if you can help it).
2012-12-12 01:35:42 AM  
1 votes:

LaughingRadish: Doc Daneeka: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Doc Daneeka: Funny how an article about yet another firearm-related injury in this country (I think this makes #7,355,456,232) quickly veers off into a seeming editorial about how hunting is actually really safe and awesome.

Methinks the gun nuts doth protest too much.

Yeah, god damn reporters, with their "facts" and "statistics".

Speaking of "facts" and "statistics," it's statistically far more likely that a firearm in the household will wind up shooting a visitor, a family member (accident or domestic violence), or oneself (accident or suicide attempt), than of it ever being used in self-defense against an attacker.

If you don't want you or your family to be a victim of gun violence, one of the best things you can do, statistically speaking, is not have a gun in your house.

Oh look! It's that old canard from Josh Sugarman! Do you admire him for some reason?  You know that antecdote is bullshiat, right?


Wanna know how I know you don't know what the word anecdote means? Aside from the fact that you can't spell it?
2012-12-12 12:17:13 AM  
1 votes:

Doc Daneeka: If you don't want you or your family to be a victim of gun violence, one of the best things you can do, statistically speaking, is not have a gun in your house


LaughingRadish: Oh look! It's that old canard from Josh Sugarman! Do you admire him for some reason? You know that antecdote is bullshiat, right?


So you're saying the weekly stories in the US about guys killing their families and themselves after a "barricade situation" involve men who do not own guns?

Sounds legit!
2012-12-11 11:42:18 PM  
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Doc Daneeka: Funny how an article about yet another firearm-related injury in this country (I think this makes #7,355,456,232) quickly veers off into a seeming editorial about how hunting is actually really safe and awesome.

Methinks the gun nuts doth protest too much.

Yeah, god damn reporters, with their "facts" and "statistics".


Speaking of "facts" and "statistics," it's statistically far more likely that a firearm in the household will wind up shooting a visitor, a family member (accident or domestic violence), or oneself (accident or suicide attempt), than of it ever being used in self-defense against an attacker.

If you don't want you or your family to be a victim of gun violence, one of the best things you can do, statistically speaking, is not have a gun in your house.
2012-12-11 11:36:14 PM  
1 votes:

Mrbogey: Eh, loose footing is something thought about more in hindsight. While it's always nice to think of every little thing, I think a lot of people would not think about footing unless they had it drilled into their heads.

It's kind of like how few people check their headlamps, fluid levels, and tire pressure before motoring and yet it's supposed to be done as part of basic safety.


I sort of agree and sort of disagree -- while you shouldn't have to be a boy scout about everything firearms are different. I was always taught to have extreme barrel control... If you take the safety off you better be on firm footing. I dont want to be hunting with some jackass who flips the safety off and snaps shots off at something he saw for a brief moment. Take a damn second to set your self up and shoot like a responsible individual rather than some gun toting redneck asskicker of the woods. Nobody likes that guy.

\Control of the barrel and safe shooting technique are kinda important to me in my hunting companions.
2012-12-11 11:31:28 PM  
1 votes:
The Omaha father who accidentally shot his 18-year-old son while pheasant hunting in Iowa said Monday that he keeps replaying the accident but can't see what he could've done differently.

I've done far less irresponsible, stupid, harmful things in my life and I have ***NO***problem imagining ways they could have come out differently. A

But I guess I'm not a complete ass.
2012-12-11 11:29:37 PM  
1 votes:
If only guns had safety buttons that would render them safe when loaded, yet allow you to quickly shoot if needed.
2012-12-11 11:29:05 PM  
1 votes:
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2012-12-11 11:26:42 PM  
1 votes:

twistofsin: I'll bet most of the people who criticize the father in this thread have never even hunted in their life, let alone walked on a surface that wasn't paved or floored in the past 10 years.


Yes, everyone who grew up in the country realises getting shot in the face is a normal thing.
2012-12-11 11:24:37 PM  
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Shouldn't a dude who shoots another person while hunting pheasant be criticized?


Or arrested?

/ Oh, never mind, he's a white suburban middle-aged male. They never break the law.
2012-12-11 11:22:46 PM  
1 votes:
I don't usually pick apart writing but this reporter is over-reaching or somehting:

It wasn't supposed to go like this. Both men took hunter safety classes together about six years ago - and dad had taken them before, as a younger man. - Oh really honey? in the past... he was... younger?

dropping the Skutt High School senior as if he had been hit by a baseball bat - good thing you attended last year's 'Who wants to get hit by a baseball bat' regional in Sioux City.
2012-12-11 11:20:04 PM  
1 votes:
Funny how an article about yet another firearm-related injury in this country (I think this makes #7,355,456,232) quickly veers off into a seeming editorial about how hunting is actually really safe and awesome.

Methinks the gun nuts doth protest too much.
2012-12-11 11:18:40 PM  
1 votes:

Aces and Eights: Reminds me of an old kind of naughty joke that goes something like this:

A family is dining on a pheasant that the dad shot. Later the young son cries out from the bathroom, "Mamma! Daddy! Help, help! I'm peeing B.B.s!!"

Dad says "Don't worry son, you just swallowed some buckshot. It'll pass."

Later the boy calls out from his bedroom, "Help! Help!". His parents tell him to calm down, not to worry; he just swallowed some buckshot.

The boy says, "No you don't understand! This time I was jerking off and I SHOT the DOG!"

/poor ol' bird dog.
//I'm sure he was fine. Probably not traveling at a high velocity.


That kid's got a pretty weird anatomy.
2012-12-11 11:12:08 PM  
1 votes:
Eh, loose footing is something thought about more in hindsight. While it's always nice to think of every little thing, I think a lot of people would not think about footing unless they had it drilled into their heads.

It's kind of like how few people check their headlamps, fluid levels, and tire pressure before motoring and yet it's supposed to be done as part of basic safety.
2012-12-11 11:10:45 PM  
1 votes:

twistofsin: I'll bet most of the people who criticize the father in this thread have never even hunted in their life, let alone walked on a surface that wasn't paved or floored in the past 10 years.


Yesterday I walked on a hardwood floor that was laid down 70 years ago, but was refinished recently. Do I make your cutoff?
2012-12-11 11:06:38 PM  
1 votes:
I'll bet most of the people who criticize the father in this thread have never even hunted in their life, let alone walked on a surface that wasn't paved or floored in the past 10 years.
2012-12-11 10:56:49 PM  
1 votes:

jimmyego: Was I not supposed to do that?


Only applies if the son then apologized for getting in the way of dads gun.
 
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