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2012-12-11 04:57:31 PM
4 votes:
This approach to measuring and treating alcohol use/dependency is very beneficial, in that it doesn't attempt to paint lower level users as full-blown alcoholics, which is not only inaccurate but also leads them to reject suggestions that they may have anything to deal with.

A lot of behaviors that can have negative effects appear accross a wide spectrum, not just at one end or the other.

I think that this approach is a step in the right direction - but of course it will be lambasted by two groups: the folks with somewhat unhealthy drinking patterns who reject any suggestion they should alter behavior and the AA recovering alcoholics who insist that anyone who drinks is a dangerous addict.
2012-12-11 04:57:30 PM
4 votes:

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: This article is the equivalent of my friend's mom thinking I'm an alcoholic because I have a large array of liquor bottles in my kitchen.


FTFA:

Dr. Robert Doyle, a psychiatrist, researcher, and author

There's a lot of money to be made in convincing people they're broken and that you can fix them.
2012-12-11 05:13:18 PM
3 votes:
ftfa : "If you're having four beers on Friday night, see how you do with two beers."

it's impossible to take these clowns seriously when they spew this puritanical bullshiat. 2 farking beers on a friday night ? i have 2 beers before i summit a farking 12000 ft mountain, assshole. i have 12- 15 beers on a friday after a week's work. and 2-6 every night between.

save this shiat for the people that are blacking out and beating their kids.
2012-12-11 05:04:49 PM
3 votes:
Nobody stops drinking when they're "almost' an alcoholic. That's the whole point of being an alcoholic, that you don't stop drinking when your head tells you that you should.

Duh, some doctor.
2012-12-11 04:43:18 PM
3 votes:

dahmers love zombie: Dr. Doyle suggests, "If you're having four beers on Monday morning Friday night, see how you do with two beers."

That was the point where I began getting concerned.


Yeah no shiat. Depending on your metabolism and weight, 4 beers in one night is pretty much nothing.

This article is the equivalent of my friend's mom thinking I'm an alcoholic because I have a large array of liquor bottles in my kitchen.
2012-12-11 04:07:20 PM
3 votes:
Brenda Wilhelmson believes she was an almost alcoholic. She confides, "It turned into a way that I rewarded myself at the end of the day, and it just escalated from there. I was basically drinking myself to sleep every night."

That's called alcoholism, sweetie. Nothing almost about it.
2012-12-11 06:02:14 PM
2 votes:
Guess I'll switch to pot, then.
2012-12-11 05:14:19 PM
2 votes:

3

0-8 = normal social drinking
9-29= almost alcoholic range
30-40 = high risk


Wooo, I'm boring!
2012-12-11 05:03:42 PM
2 votes:
A couple of bullshiat questions in there.

#7 How often have you felt guilt or remorse after drinking?
The question does not define a causal relationship - you could well be feeling guilt or remorse for something that has no connection to alcohol at all. Should rephrase to "guilt or remorse for something caused by or influenced by your drinking"

#10 - Has a relative or friend or coworker or a doctor expressed concern over your drinking?
The doctor part is OK, but the other 3 may have screwed up subjective views on drinking or on you - so the question itself leads to possibly inaccurate answers.
2012-12-11 05:01:41 PM
2 votes:
farking busybodies telling me how to live my life.
2012-12-11 04:56:45 PM
2 votes:
In other news you have to be a pretty farked up case to be considered an alcoholic according to that test.
2012-12-11 04:27:49 PM
2 votes:
Dr. Doyle suggests, "If you're having four beers on Monday morning Friday night, see how you do with two beers."

That was the point where I began getting concerned.
2012-12-11 04:07:14 PM
2 votes:
By 'taking action' I assume he means drink more to achieve that alcoholism. No one likes a quitter.
2012-12-12 12:00:59 AM
1 votes:

brandent: theotherwhitemeat: I'm a functioning alcoholic and I know it. Only a handful of people know. I scored a 27 so I feel I still got a little time!!

Try this. If you are by the end of work already craving that first drink and starting to feel that little bit of anxiety, around 6 pm take 4 Benadryl instead. Just be prepared to go to bed by 9. Mellows you right out. Try it first on a Friday night so you don't have to work the next day. DO NOT drink anything that night. If this works and causes calm without the booze try 3 on a weeknight.


wtf? Hey, you're an alcoholic? Why don't you take some drugs instead. I don't care that Benadryl isn't really a hard drug, but I'm sure taking 4 of them at a time is a bad idea and it's definitely a bad idea to take them recreationally.

Why don't you go DIAF?
2012-12-11 07:07:09 PM
1 votes:
34.

I think not many really high scores have been posted, because why bother taking that test at all? The real problem drinkers know who we are.
2012-12-11 06:31:14 PM
1 votes:
BJs feel better after zero beers, but when not getting BJs 4-5 feels best. Drink around your BJ schedule for maximal enjoyment.
2012-12-11 06:05:47 PM
1 votes:
alcohol is one of the safest drugs out there. next to wellbutrin and butt sex
2012-12-11 05:31:09 PM
1 votes:
www.drunkard.com
2012-12-11 05:25:36 PM
1 votes:

InspectorZero: I realize that some people are unable to control their drinking and destructive behavior it causes, but I really do think there are a lot more people who over-indulge to which the AA model does not apply.


The AA model does not apply to anyone, as it is built entirely on made-up bullshiat. Alcohol addiction is real enough, it just has nothing to do with diseases, powerlessness, higher powers or any of that crap.
2012-12-11 05:21:37 PM
1 votes:

Pemulis: 11, I thought it'd be much higher.

Although I don't know how to answer the "are you able to stop drinking once you've started" question. I typically stop drinking when I feel like stopping, and that's usually not after one drink (although sometimes it is, if I'm in a one-drink social situation). But often at home I'll start drinking with a vague intention of having 1 or 2 drinks but end up having 3, 4 or 5 - does that mean I'm unable to stop? Or does it mean I decided I'd like another drink or two? It's not like I went into it saying to myself "dammit, you're stopping at 2 tonight come hell or high water" and then woke up 14 hours later with 2 empty bottles of Beam on the nightstand.

If anything that quiz makes me think I'm practically a teetotaller and can go ahead and up my intake another couple notches.


Alcoholics can't/won't stop drinking. That typically means you'd drive your drunk ass to the liquor store just before it closes because you only have 4 beers left. Or it means that family/friends are trying to get you to stop drinking because you're making an ass of yourself so you either argue with them and keep drinking or start to hide your drinking so you can keep your buzz going.
2012-12-11 05:18:35 PM
1 votes:
I don't drink, myself.

I'm just fine being the perpetual designated driver.
2012-12-11 05:17:17 PM
1 votes:

JustLookin: FTFQ:

3. How often do you have six or more drinks on one occasion?

Never
Less than once a month
Monthly
Two to three times a week
Four or more times a week

So if I have six or more drinks once a week, do I answer "Monthly" or "Two to three times a week?" It's neither, you farking jackbags!


That is exactly what I thought. The ranges are designed to put you into the "grey area" he is creating so you buy his book.
2012-12-11 05:17:16 PM
1 votes:
I recognized (and was also clued into) some warning signs in my own drinking habits and now keep a loose vigil on ensuring it doesn't turn into a problem or otherwise negatively impact my day to day life. Watching a close family member fall right down the rabbit hole over and over again is a harsh reminder though that not everyone is so fortunate.

robbiex0r: 14

*shrug*


*high five* me too!
2012-12-11 05:14:45 PM
1 votes:

cryinoutloud: Nobody stops drinking when they're "almost' an alcoholic. That's the whole point of being an alcoholic, that you don't stop drinking when your head, your friends, family members and f*cked up consequences tells you that you should.

Duh, some doctor.


fixed

This book is written for the Oprah/Dr. Phil junkies to give them fuel to interfere with friends and family members because they need a hobby.

,
das
2012-12-11 05:12:27 PM
1 votes:
Are, or are not.There is no almost.
2012-12-11 05:12:16 PM
1 votes:
I dry out at least 1 day a week.

That day was yesterday. I'm cleared for takeoff.
2012-12-11 05:07:17 PM
1 votes:
17. I work in the wine and spirits industry. This test is b.s. because, frankly, I worry about all the booze I consume.

/Drinking Pinot Noir while writing this.
//At work.
2012-12-11 05:02:21 PM
1 votes:

cefm: This approach to measuring and treating alcohol use/dependency is very beneficial, in that it doesn't attempt to paint lower level users as full-blown alcoholics, which is not only inaccurate but also leads them to reject suggestions that they may have anything to deal with.

A lot of behaviors that can have negative effects appear accross a wide spectrum, not just at one end or the other.

I think that this approach is a step in the right direction - but of course it will be lambasted by two groups: the folks with somewhat unhealthy drinking patterns who reject any suggestion they should alter behavior and the AA recovering alcoholics who insist that anyone who drinks is a dangerous addict.


Thanks for saying this. I used to imbibe way more than I do nowadays. I changed my behavior and now drink in moderation (mostly). I realize that some people are unable to control their drinking and destructive behavior it causes, but I really do think there are a lot more people who over-indulge to which the AA model does not apply.
2012-12-11 04:58:35 PM
1 votes:

Gordian Cipher: Woo! High score!

Just kidding, it's a 6.

/would have been more like a 20 in college


I couldnt get my score but I suspect it may have been the same. I drink so much less now. Hell a bottle of rum will last me longer than a month now. But I still hide it from my alcoholic roomate
2012-12-11 04:57:13 PM
1 votes:
I scored a 1.

It is possible that I am wicked boring but have a good, strong liver. :-|
2012-12-11 04:53:14 PM
1 votes:
Dr. Doyle suggests, "If you're having four beers on Friday night, see how you do with two eight beers."

FTFM.
2012-12-11 03:54:33 PM
1 votes:
Dr. Doyle is focusing on the zone, between normal use and alcoholism diagnosis-the so-called almost alcoholic range. Here, the risk of things like insomnia, diabetes and cancer can increase.

Really? I find putting away a 12er a night takes care of that problem.
 
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