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(io9)   Scientists claim that homosexuality is not genetic - but it arises in the womb. With helpful picture of completely acceptable lesbian couple   (io9.com) divider line 471
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2012-12-11 03:18:36 PM
It's my mom's fault. She kept playing Barbara Streisand to me while I was still in the womb.
 
2012-12-11 03:32:31 PM
So gays are born this way but we aren't conceived this way.
 
2012-12-11 03:51:17 PM
So basically, it's all because of womb service?
 
2012-12-11 04:09:17 PM
I've always thought it had something to do with the hormone level of the mother during pregnancy.
 
2012-12-11 04:09:19 PM
pfft.. one in front is fat
one in back has a horse face.

I wouldnt even watch these two go at it

\well at least not more then twice
\\three times
 
2012-12-11 04:09:58 PM
Good. Finding a 'gay gene' would just mean that some well-funded asshat would start working on a cure.
 
2012-12-11 04:10:51 PM
i.huffpost.com6
actual lesbians
 
2012-12-11 04:11:02 PM

kvinesknows: pfft.. one in front is fat
one in back has a horse face.

I wouldnt even watch these two go at it

\well at least not more then twice
\\three times


OK, that got me to click....meh, I'll take horse face
 
2012-12-11 04:11:07 PM

Gordian Cipher: Good. Finding a 'gay gene' would just mean that some well-funded asshat would start working on a cure.


Well, thank God for science.
 
2012-12-11 04:11:23 PM

kvinesknows: pfft.. one in front is fat
one in back has a horse face.

I wouldnt even watch these two go at it

\well at least not more then twice
\\three times


Would watch in person.
 
2012-12-11 04:11:27 PM
I've noticed that, amongst my friends and I, that the amount of older brothers that you have seems like a common thread.
 
2012-12-11 04:12:09 PM

Cythraul: It's my mom's fault. She kept playing Barbara Streisand to me while I was still in the womb.



That could do it.
 
2012-12-11 04:12:21 PM

Gordian Cipher: Good. Finding a 'gay gene' would just mean that some well-funded asshat would start working on a cure.


This is why there are / were no gay people in science fiction films and books set in the future. Think about it. Star Trek? No gay people. And why is that? I always just assumed they came up with a 'cure,' and gay people willingly took it, rather than be rejected by half of society.
 
2012-12-11 04:13:11 PM

Buttknuckle: I've noticed that, amongst my friends and I, that the amount of older brothers that you have seems like a common thread.


I have two older brothers, one older sister.
 
2012-12-11 04:13:23 PM
so basically it comes down to whether the pregnant woman watches SNL and finds it funny??
 
2012-12-11 04:13:27 PM

Cythraul: It's my mom's fault. She kept playing Barbara Streisand to me while I was still in the womb.


I was born a month early so I can end having to listen to that shiat.

/same goes for Cher and Madonna
 
2012-12-11 04:13:48 PM

Gordian Cipher: Good. Finding a 'gay gene' would just mean that some well-funded asshat would start working on a cure.


If Western medicine can't find a cure, alternative medicine surely can. I suggest homo-opathy. If you take small doses of diluted gay you might just get cured! Failing that, surely crackupuncture or guyropraxy might help.
 
2012-12-11 04:14:20 PM

gingerjet: Cythraul: It's my mom's fault. She kept playing Barbara Streisand to me while I was still in the womb.

I was born a month early so I can end having to listen to that shiat.

/same goes for Cher and Madonna


I was born a month and a half early.
 
2012-12-11 04:14:52 PM
Maybe the fundies will change their minds on abortion now.
 
2012-12-11 04:14:54 PM

Cythraul: Gordian Cipher: Good. Finding a 'gay gene' would just mean that some well-funded asshat would start working on a cure.

This is why there are / were no gay people in science fiction films and books set in the future. Think about it. Star Trek? No gay people. And why is that? I always just assumed they came up with a 'cure,' and gay people willingly took it, rather than be rejected by half of society.


At a press conference in 1989 announcing that Patrick Stewart had been cast as Captain Picard:

Reporter: Surely they would have cured baldness by the 24th century.
Gene Roddenberry: In the 24th century, they wouldn't care.
 
2012-12-11 04:15:03 PM
Why is this even being studied? What's the purpose? What's the end game of it? More importantly who's sponsoring this shiat?
 
2012-12-11 04:15:45 PM

styckx: Why is this even being studied? What's the purpose? What's the end game of it? More importantly who's sponsoring this shiat?


to find the cure.

duh
 
2012-12-11 04:16:36 PM
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I will gladly help them play for the other team.
 
2012-12-11 04:16:48 PM
1987*

/dammit.
 
2012-12-11 04:17:00 PM

Gordian Cipher: Cythraul: Gordian Cipher: Good. Finding a 'gay gene' would just mean that some well-funded asshat would start working on a cure.

This is why there are / were no gay people in science fiction films and books set in the future. Think about it. Star Trek? No gay people. And why is that? I always just assumed they came up with a 'cure,' and gay people willingly took it, rather than be rejected by half of society.

At a press conference in 1989 announcing that Patrick Stewart had been cast as Captain Picard:

Reporter: Surely they would have cured baldness by the 24th century.
Gene Roddenberry: In the 24th century, they wouldn't care.


I'm not sure what you're getting at here. There was a bald character on Star Trek: The Next Generation. There were no gay characters on TNG. There were characters who flirted with the issue, or topics of an ambiguous nature that implied homosexuality, but no gay characters.

Bald people were represented. Gay people? Not at all.
 
2012-12-11 04:17:04 PM
So... are there any gay hatched animals besides big bird?
 
2012-12-11 04:17:05 PM

Cythraul: Buttknuckle: I've noticed that, amongst my friends and I, that the amount of older brothers that you have seems like a common thread.

I have two older brothers, one older sister.


I could swear I read a study somewhere that said something along the lines of the youngest son is the most likely to be gay. This is only if he has older brothers though, if he has older sisters only then there is apparently no effect. I think it has something to do with lowered levels of testosterone in the womb by the time the youngest son is there.

/epigenetics are pretty cool
 
2012-12-11 04:17:12 PM
"Those who said that it's 'nature' - You're right. Those who said it's 'nurture' - you're right also. Those who said it's a choice - no, you're still assholes."
 
2012-12-11 04:17:20 PM

styckx: Why is this even being studied? What's the purpose? What's the end game of it? More importantly who's sponsoring this shiat?


Whatever happened to knowledge is its own reward? We should be pursuing knowledge regardless of whether we like the results or not.
 
2012-12-11 04:17:53 PM
How long till the queers start demanding abortion be illegal? The first kid to be aborted for being gay is going to be the catalyst for a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth.
 
d3
2012-12-11 04:17:55 PM
I like to ask conservatives if they would be in favor of government regulation of industry if they learned the chemicals being put into products were turning people gay. It turns into a fun thought experiment until their heads explode.
 
2012-12-11 04:18:28 PM

Buttknuckle: I've noticed that, amongst my friends and I, that the amount of older brothers that you have seems like a common thread.


That might be a thing. It makes sense for Darwinian selection. As a tribe/community reaches a certain number of children, you want a certain percentage to become childless adults that can help raise or adopt children of relatives. It increases the overall survival rate of the tribe.
 
2012-12-11 04:18:51 PM

Cythraul: Buttknuckle: I've noticed that, amongst my friends and I, that the amount of older brothers that you have seems like a common thread.

I have two older brothers, one older sister.


Yeah, I have one of each. The only one who goes against this that I know of is my SO. He's the oldest of three boys.
 
2012-12-11 04:18:55 PM

Cythraul: Gordian Cipher: Good. Finding a 'gay gene' would just mean that some well-funded asshat would start working on a cure.

This is why there are / were no gay people in science fiction films and books set in the future. Think about it. Star Trek? No gay people. And why is that? I always just assumed they came up with a 'cure,' and gay people willingly took it, rather than be rejected by half of society.


I always assumed it was done involuntarily during one of those dark episodes of human history that Q kept bringing up.
 
2012-12-11 04:19:11 PM

Cythraul: It's my mom's fault. She kept playing Barbara Streisand to me while I was still in the womb.


t0.gstatic.com

Is hurt, but approves
 
2012-12-11 04:19:12 PM

Cythraul: I'm not sure what you're getting at here. There was a bald character on Star Trek: The Next Generation. There were no gay characters on TNG. There were characters who flirted with the issue, or topics of an ambiguous nature that implied homosexuality, but no gay characters.

Bald people were represented. Gay people? Not at all.


Considering how awful TNG was - I don't consider the absence of a major gay character a bad thing.

/I also don't care
 
2012-12-11 04:19:31 PM

SarahDiddle: Cythraul: Buttknuckle: I've noticed that, amongst my friends and I, that the amount of older brothers that you have seems like a common thread.

I have two older brothers, one older sister.

I could swear I read a study somewhere that said something along the lines of the youngest son is the most likely to be gay. This is only if he has older brothers though, if he has older sisters only then there is apparently no effect. I think it has something to do with lowered levels of testosterone in the womb by the time the youngest son is there.

/epigenetics are pretty cool


Does that affect the amount of testosterone produced by a gay man after birth? Because from what I've read, they produce the same amount as straight men.

/DRTFA
 
2012-12-11 04:20:00 PM
I wonder if stem cell research could "cure" this...
 
2012-12-11 04:20:02 PM
Hey, remember when our ancestors laid eggs and the temperature of the nest would change the gender of the offspring?
 
2012-12-11 04:20:29 PM

Lumpmoose: That might be a thing. It makes sense for Darwinian selection. As a tribe/community reaches a certain number of children, you want a certain percentage to become childless adults that can help raise or adopt children of relatives. It increases the overall survival rate of the tribe.


I call that the "funny uncle hypothesis".
 
2012-12-11 04:20:54 PM

Cythraul: Star Trek? No gay people


i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-12-11 04:20:55 PM

SarahDiddle: Cythraul: Buttknuckle: I've noticed that, amongst my friends and I, that the amount of older brothers that you have seems like a common thread.

I have two older brothers, one older sister.

I could swear I read a study somewhere that said something along the lines of the youngest son is the most likely to be gay. This is only if he has older brothers though, if he has older sisters only then there is apparently no effect. I think it has something to do with lowered levels of testosterone in the womb by the time the youngest son is there.

/epigenetics are pretty cool


I have two half-siblings - both older sisters (one from my dad's first marriage, one from my mom's).

That said, your statement about levels of testosterone is interesting, as my half-sister from my mother's marriage (and the only sibling with whom I was raised) is somewhat masculine (although heterosexual) in build and attitude.
 
2012-12-11 04:21:17 PM

Captain Darling:
I always assumed it was done involuntarily during one of those dark episodes of human history that Q kept bringing up.


I thought all the gays got super powers and became the Q.
 
2012-12-11 04:21:29 PM

Gordian Cipher: Good. Finding a 'gay gene' would just mean that some well-funded asshat would start working on a cure.


Actually hormone therapy during pregnancy would be a lot easier then some sort of gene therapy. Just pointing out this doesn't preclude preventative measures during conception and pregnancy, just because hardcoded genes aren't involved.
 
2012-12-11 04:21:44 PM
"My first words, as I was being born... I looked up at my mother and said, 'that's the last time I'm going up one of those." - Stephen Fry
 
2012-12-11 04:21:47 PM

RexTalionis: Hey, remember when our ancestors laid eggs and the temperature of the nest would change the gender of the offspring?


Yeah, those were the good ol' days. You kids get off of my egg clutch!
 
2012-12-11 04:22:44 PM
Girl in front reminds me of Tina Majorino (aka "Molly" the science vamp chick).
 
2012-12-11 04:22:44 PM
Just another thing to blame on women
 
2012-12-11 04:22:44 PM

Cythraul: Gordian Cipher: Good. Finding a 'gay gene' would just mean that some well-funded asshat would start working on a cure.

This is why there are / were no gay people in science fiction films and books set in the future. Think about it. Star Trek? No gay people. And why is that? I always just assumed they came up with a 'cure,' and gay people willingly took it, rather than be rejected by half of society.


Probably more that science fiction is an imagined future, seen inevitably through the lens of the present, and shaped by what is seen as normal in the present or what the author knows in his life.

In old science fiction, there weren't a lot of black people. I don't think they believed they'd find a cure for being black, they just didn't know a lot of black people when writing it.
 
2012-12-11 04:22:59 PM

Cythraul: RexTalionis: Hey, remember when our ancestors laid eggs and the temperature of the nest would change the gender of the offspring?

Yeah, those were the good ol' days. You kids get off of my egg clutch!


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