kombat_unit: So, bomb all industry and return to the caves?
BigBurrito: Diogenes: Faith in God has sustained us much longer than science has.Adaptability of our species has maintained us much, much longer still. God is a newcomer, a powerful concept, but very new and occupying only the briefest moment in time. God does not exist without common language. Common language is still fairly new within our species.
Rent Party: BigBurrito:The question becomes, what area of science has the best potential to disprove global warming.Mixology, duh!Look at all that ice![tlbadventures.com image 266x400]
RobertBruce: And before 1.3 million years ago we were warmer for a long long time. Sure we're changing. It's the "human caused" that is bullshiat.
Snarfangel: Almost all of the pie is gone!
SlothB77: [thefrugalwinesnob.com image 496x423]
Lucky LaRue: All that shows is scientist are worse than the average population when it comes to group-think.
Spanky_McFarksalot: Not that I think man-made climate change is a lie, I do think we are screwing up the climate, but...science has agreed overwhelmingly on topics and theories in the past, only to be proven wrong later.everyone agreeing doesn't equal being right.
qorkfiend: What sort of examples of the scientific consensus being wrong did you have in mind?
wvskyguy: The earth has been experiencing hot and cold cycles since the beginning of time. Scientists cut down trees today and can see that for themselves, and they can see that MAN had nothing to do with it. Move along, nothing to see here.
dogfather_jr: While it's possible that the earth is warming as a direct result of man, there's no proof that the miles will come off just by putting the car on blocks in reverse.
Endive Wombat: BigBurrito: Endive Wombat: All I am going to add to this is that my understanding about those who question global warming is this (and let's be honest, it is a major sticking point): What is its cause and what, if anything can we do about it?I believe many people have stopped worrying about the cause, and very, very few holdouts cling to denying its existence.The consequences of global warming are still very much up for debate, even within the sciences. What happens, when does it happen, and what may change the outcome? Hell, if we have a very large Volcanic eruption the ash will cool the atmosphere. TI think that is where the former deniers are moving to. Better to debate future consequences, that can be neither proved or disproved. Kind of like conspiracy theories, it has the ability to grab peoples imaginations. That is a good and fun thing and has the benefit of enabling research to proceed without as much political interference.Well, several hundred years ago, the Earth was warmed (Medieval Warm Period) and cooled (Little Ice Age) with what I think most people will agree as zero influence by humans as we were not contributing much to the total Earth's CO2 output at that point in time. Again, with what little I have studied, I am more apt to believe that sun spots and other Earthly/Nature based factors contribute 98% of global warming. While I am not denying the fact that we more than likely contribute somewhat to Global Warming...I just suspect that there are other, much larger factors at play that try as we may, we will never be able to overcome and will have almost zero ability to do anything about it.
Oznog: SlothB77: [thefrugalwinesnob.com image 496x423][thefrugalwinesnob.com image 496x423]LOL THIS. Because I'm over 40. I remember in elementary school they taught that science showed we were going to freeze in an ice age caused by pollution. It was scientific fact, at the time.
dogfather_jr: The idea that modifying our actions will allow us to act as some sort of global thermostat is ludicrous.
Holocaust Agnostic: SO MANY assumptions.
Insatiable Jesus: All I need to know about global warming is right there in the crowd that denies it.
jwest13: Climate change is real, no question about it, and has been since the earth was formed. MAN MADE/CAUSED/PREVENTABLE climate change, on the other hand, is the stuff of legendary hoax....
fiver5: OK fine you win, climate change is real.So lets all give more money to the government.
BigBurrito: many of which many
rotsky: I'll always have, in the back of my mind, the fact that some scientists faked their data a couple years ago.I'm not an idiot, it just made me skeptical.
Pocket Ninja: Journey with me, subby, back to the early 1600s. .... The sun IS at the center of the universe.So think about it. If you were to take your fancy little pie chart and p ...
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