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2012-12-11 02:22:44 PM
That's really funny.
Especially when we consider STONING A WOMAN TO DEATH to be offensive.
Why the fark do we (normal humans) always have to respect 'tarded values but they only have to be offended by every little thing.

Where's my nukes dammit?
 
2012-12-11 02:22:48 PM

Abuse Liability: whidbey: Abuse Liability: I should take one last parting shot though. It seems that while there is an adequate time between my posts for thought, reflection and a response. Your replies fly out faster than i can refresh my browser indicating either
1.) you're incredibly quick-witted and informed or 2.) you're firing out replies because your mindset won't be changed and you're already making your next argument before you even see someone's comment.

I know number 2 is pretty common for Fark in general. Should we entertain the possibility of number 1?

lrn2quotebutton

Dodging the issue again. suprising. See how fast I hammered out that response?


OK. So find me the document showing that Iraq surrendered to the US and we'll talk.

Otherwise, there is a distinct difference in what we're talking about. And stop being so condescending.
 
2012-12-11 02:24:03 PM

whidbey: BigNumber12: A reasonable adult would assume that their guest (from a different culture) has made an inadvertent mistake, and quietly point it out, after the fact, if it's truly that unbearable. Not respond by blasting their guest with insults. And this guy is supposed to be a professional diplomat, hosting a representative of one of the most tolerant nations on earth. One quick "Hey, just so you know..." would probably have gotten a sincere apology and taught the Swede a useful piece of information.

Protip: Iran is not the US. They aren't going to just jump to what your expectations of what a government should be.



They don't seem to give much of a fark about what the rest of the planet seems to think a government should be. This is why they're having a difficult time with most of the rest of the world wanting as little to do with them as possible. This is Sweden, ffs, bastion of cultural tolerance, and Iran is basically screaming "Fark you!" at them.
 
2012-12-11 02:24:29 PM
i2.wp.com

Non-story
Tejler crossed his legs, by mistake, oops
Then Ahmadinejad crossed his legs too

This is a way of covering an impolite gesture, by copying it.
It's a way of saying, "No big deal."

I'm not crazy about Iran, but Ahmadinejad did the diplomatically correct thing.

/is Benghazi a scandal yet?
 
2012-12-11 02:24:39 PM

LeroyBourne: JackieRabbit: So I guess unzipping and scratching my bass is out. Good to know.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x341]
[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x340]
just keep that fish in your pants sir!


Life is so beautiful. For some more than others.

Thank you for the reminder of that awesome show! I needed that today.
Link is for anyone else that needs a good one.
 
2012-12-11 02:25:22 PM
Keylock71:
i.istockimg.com

Hey keylock71, why you calling me an asshole? Huh? Huh?

/try thumbing a ride in Africa sometime
//everybody who's anybody knows Muzzies hate seeing your shoe bottoms. Just another one of their obsessive-compulsive behaviors
 
2012-12-11 02:25:30 PM

BigNumber12: They don't seem to give much of a fark about what the rest of the planet seems to think a government should be. This is why they're having a difficult time with most of the rest of the world wanting as little to do with them as possible. This is Sweden, ffs, bastion of cultural tolerance, and Iran is basically screaming "Fark you!" at them.


So what? Bomb them?

What do you care, anyway? You're right. It's Sweden.
 
Ant
2012-12-11 02:25:39 PM

H31N0US: Who doesn't know that exposing the soles of your feet is considered an insult in most of the Muslim world?


I knew it, but it's still a stupid thing to be insulted about.
 
2012-12-11 02:25:50 PM

ChipNASA: leftshue: meanmutton: Slapping Secretary Clinton on the ass?

I would pay good money to see Clinton's face after Ahmadinejad slapped her on the ass.



flash2flash.flashgamesplayer.com
Pimp Slap A Biatch Game
 
/clicky to get the link
 
2012-12-11 02:26:12 PM

give me doughnuts: If something as simple as sitting with your legs crossed is an insult in your culture, then your culture is stupid.


Well, no. I could just as well say that if showing someone your middle finger is an insult, then your culture is stupid. Or making an "O" shape with your forefinger and thumb (not a problem in the U.S., where it actually means "OK," but a big insult in some other places). The list is long. Every culture has behavior that is meaningful to members and seems completely arbitrary to outsiders. And the soles of the feet thing isn't that unusual. I first ran across it as an issue in Thai culture.
 
2012-12-11 02:26:37 PM

whidbey: No, I still think you're a prime example of the Ugly American who wants to shove Americanism down everyone's throats.


And you're a prime example of the Ugly American who respects practices like FGM, feet, binding, bride-burning, and driving-rhinos-to-extinction-for-aphrodisiacs because they're "traditions" and "who are we to question that?"
 
2012-12-11 02:26:51 PM

sweet-daddy-2: The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img717.imageshack.us image 600x800]

I cant hang out with anyone who sees this as offensive.

blatz514: I'll help...

[blog.corewalking.com image 400x314]

I see I'm not the only one who applies a non-political thought to crossed legs. Upskirts arise!


It gets too depressing listening to other farkers complaining about religion. I'll try finding some Despierta America ladies.
 
2012-12-11 02:26:55 PM
I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. You don't frighten us, Persian pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, you sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called "Ahmadinejad," you and all your silly Iranian customs.

Now, THAT's how you insult someone!
 
2012-12-11 02:27:14 PM

whidbey: Abuse Liability: whidbey: Abuse Liability: I should take one last parting shot though. It seems that while there is an adequate time between my posts for thought, reflection and a response. Your replies fly out faster than i can refresh my browser indicating either
1.) you're incredibly quick-witted and informed or 2.) you're firing out replies because your mindset won't be changed and you're already making your next argument before you even see someone's comment.

I know number 2 is pretty common for Fark in general. Should we entertain the possibility of number 1?

lrn2quotebutton

Dodging the issue again. suprising. See how fast I hammered out that response?

OK. So find me the document showing that Iraq surrendered to the US and we'll talk.

Otherwise, there is a distinct difference in what we're talking about. And stop being so condescending.


You mean because of a single document? A thousand parallels and because there is no "surrender" there is no "comparison." Once again, I will repeat that attacking/conquering/surrendering have very little to do with the act of nation-building. (below pulled from wikipedia)

Nation-building refers to the process of constructing or structuring a national identity using the power of the state. This process aims at the unification of the people within the state so that it remains politically stable and viable in the long run. Nation-building can involve the use of propaganda or major infrastructure development to foster social harmony and economic growth.
Definition: The development of behaviors, values, language, institutions, and physical structures that elucidate history and culture, concretize and protect the present, and insure the future identity and independence of the nation.
-wiki
 
2012-12-11 02:27:16 PM

tinyarena: /is Benghazi a scandal yet?


Yeah, it's going to cause a chain reaction impeachment/Sarah Palin coronation, I hear.
 
Ant
2012-12-11 02:28:05 PM

meanmutton: Okay, I'm thinking -- what could possibly be similar in our culture? Accidentally using the N-word to refer to President Obama? Using the middle finger to point to the ceiling or something? Talking with food in his mouth? Slapping Secretary Clinton on the ass?


Possibly the middle finger.
 
2012-12-11 02:28:09 PM

Abuse Liability: sprawl15: whidbey: We reconstructed Japan and Germany after a war.

This.

We didn't build the nation, we reconstructed it. HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference.

No, if anybody had read the link, they would be aware we didn't merely reconstuct Japan. We replaced the government and placed a multitude of military (and other) sanctions ensuring our safety and producing a more cohesive, united population in the aftermath of a terrible war. The very definition of nation building. why... do... I... continue... arguing...


thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2012-12-11 02:28:49 PM

way south: It offends my country that you only posted one picture.
Hurry up and correct this before it becomes an international incident!



Don't have a lot of pictures of girls crossing their legs.

sorry.

But I got quality!
 
2012-12-11 02:29:31 PM

whidbey: So what? Bomb them?


Where'd I say that?

whidbey: What do you care, anyway?


It's vindicating to see that their senior leadership is still behaving in a fashion that confirms our concerns about their government's mentality.
 
2012-12-11 02:29:37 PM
I'm all for celebrating diversity and all that, but this is just crap. These fooking muslims need to get over themselves.
 
2012-12-11 02:30:14 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: way south: It offends my country that you only posted one picture.
Hurry up and correct this before it becomes an international incident!


Don't have a lot of pictures of girls crossing their legs.

sorry.

But I got quality!


sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net 

Cristina Blackwell
 
2012-12-11 02:31:06 PM

Mega Steve: I walk barefoot most of the time. I guess that makes me a Satanist someone who lives in a warm climate.


/I miss going barefoot all the time.
 
2012-12-11 02:31:39 PM
One more...

babetelevisionnetwork.iwebs.ws
 
2012-12-11 02:31:41 PM

Abuse Liability: Otherwise, there is a distinct difference in what we're talking about. And stop being so condescending.

You mean because of a single document? A thousand parallels and because there is no "surrender" there is no "comparison." Once again, I will repeat that attacking/conquering/surrendering have very little to do with the act of nation-building. (below pulled from wikipedia)


OK, so you're probably using a mobile device and not deliberating being obnoxious. My bad.

Look, I'm really not convinced by your pedantic insistence here.

It's pretty obvious that we HAD to do what we did in Germany and Japan. Once again, we were at war with them. They surrendered. The Allied Forces reconstructed the country post-wartime.

In Iraq, we were part of a political move to set up Saddam as dictator, and benefitted from his being in power. Bush and the neocons decided to go in there and remove him because he wasn't behaving.

In short:

Japan=Allied powers
Iraq=PNAC

Not even the same thing. We're done here.
 
2012-12-11 02:31:42 PM

BigNumber12: whidbey: No, I still think you're a prime example of the Ugly American who wants to shove Americanism down everyone's throats.

And you're a prime example of the Ugly American who respects practices like FGM, feet, binding, bride-burning, and driving-rhinos-to-extinction-for-aphrodisiacs because they're "traditions" and "who are we to question that?"


Its called cultural relativism and this guy is drowning in it. No need to champion the cause of common sense when other cultures are allowed to hide behind superstition and tradition. All we are asking for is that their premier diplomat be more tolerant and less like a petty child.
 
2012-12-11 02:33:15 PM

meanmutton: Okay, I'm thinking -- what could possibly be similar in our culture? Accidentally using the N-word to refer to President Obama? Using the middle finger to point to the ceiling or something? Talking with food in his mouth? Slapping Secretary Clinton on the ass?



Probably the middle finger thing.

I have heard of this insult before. There are places where waving at someone is an insult, and so on. You need to check these things when travelling to foreign countries, if you don't want to accidentally piss off random people and look like a dick. Also, to know when people are signalling their local equivalent of the finger.
 
2012-12-11 02:33:17 PM

leftshue: meanmutton: Slapping Secretary Clinton on the ass?

I would pay good money to see Clinton's face after Ahmadinejad slapped her on the ass.


Conversely, I wouldn't give a dime to see Clinton's ass after Ahmmadinejad slapped her in the face.
 
2012-12-11 02:33:18 PM

cryinoutloud: Mega Steve: I walk barefoot most of the time. I guess that makes me a Satanist someone who lives in a warm climate.

/I miss going barefoot all the time.


img.poptower.com
/you sound like a hipster
 
2012-12-11 02:34:27 PM

BigNumber12: whidbey: No, I still think you're a prime example of the Ugly American who wants to shove Americanism down everyone's throats.

And you're a prime example of the Ugly American who respects practices like FGM, feet, binding, bride-burning, and driving-rhinos-to-extinction-for-aphrodisiacs because they're "traditions" and "who are we to question that?"


Yeah well, I still suspect you're in the Bomb Iran camp. You're just way too insistent on what other countries should be like.

The truth is that we are going to have to leave Iran to solve its own problems by allowing it to promote its own democracy by our example.

And you sound like a sabre-rattler.
 
2012-12-11 02:35:07 PM

bobbette: Cultural customs are cultural customs, people. It would be rude if someone came to America and picked their nose or scratched their ass while meeting with Obama.


Or threw up on their host's shoes.
 
2012-12-11 02:35:50 PM

Abuse Liability: All we are asking for is that their premier diplomat be more tolerant and less like a petty child.


Pretty sure the right-wing in this country wants a whole lot more than that.
 
2012-12-11 02:36:08 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: meanmutton: Okay, I'm thinking -- what could possibly be similar in our culture? Accidentally using the N-word to refer to President Obama? Using the middle finger to point to the ceiling or something? Talking with food in his mouth? Slapping Secretary Clinton on the ass?

The middle finger pointing at the ceiling is just right.


Should have added visitors to the UK often get this one wrong too - never give the V sign when you just want to say "2" ...

topfavourite.com
 
2012-12-11 02:36:18 PM

whidbey: Abuse Liability: Otherwise, there is a distinct difference in what we're talking about. And stop being so condescending.

You mean because of a single document? A thousand parallels and because there is no "surrender" there is no "comparison." Once again, I will repeat that attacking/conquering/surrendering have very little to do with the act of nation-building. (below pulled from wikipedia)

OK, so you're probably using a mobile device and not deliberating being obnoxious. My bad.

Look, I'm really not convinced by your pedantic insistence here.



It's pretty obvious that we HAD to do what we did in Germany and Japan. Once again, we were at war with them. They surrendered. The Allied Forces reconstructed the country post-wartime.

In Iraq, we were part of a political move to set up Saddam as dictator, and benefitted from his being in power. Bush and the neocons decided to go in there and remove him because he wasn't behaving.

In short:

Japan=Allied powers
Iraq=PNAC

Not even the same thing. We're done here.


Done beating this dead horse. Continue with your inane babble. I'm sure someone will bite
 
2012-12-11 02:38:04 PM
Which seems sort of odd, since middle eastern men are known to be coo-coo for foot fetish puffs. Must be because that's all you can see that's not covered up with a burqa.
 
2012-12-11 02:38:50 PM

Abuse Liability: Not even the same thing. We're done here.

Done beating this dead horse. Continue with your inane babble. I'm sure someone will bite


LOL so when I actually point out to you the difference for the third time, I'm trolling.

M'kay.
 
2012-12-11 02:40:25 PM

signaljammer: H31N0US: Who doesn't know that exposing the soles of your feet is considered an insult in most of the Muslim world? 

No merde!

//my pet hate--White boys from Naperville
//who suck directly on the chillum. 

//I think it is more of an Arabic thing than a Muslim thing. I don't think this is a problem in Philippines.



Actually the documentary I saw it on showed some SE Asian country, don't know which one.
 
2012-12-11 02:40:50 PM

tinyarena: [i2.wp.com image 408x258]

Non-story
Tejler crossed his legs, by mistake, oops
Then Ahmadinejad crossed his legs too

This is a way of covering an impolite gesture, by copying it.
It's a way of saying, "No big deal."

I'm not crazy about Iran, but Ahmadinejad did the diplomatically correct thing.

/is Benghazi a scandal yet?


Ahmadinejad is pointing the sole of his foot away from Tejler, so you're probably right. If he'd meant it as a mutual insult, he'd have crossed the other leg and shown the sole of his foot to Tejler.

///when you're busy trying to gin up political support by breathing fire about Israel and the U.S., there's no point wasting energy on farking around with Sweden
 
2012-12-11 02:40:58 PM

StashMonster: I have heard of this insult before. There are places where waving at someone is an insult, and so on. You need to check these things when travelling to foreign countries, if you don't want to accidentally piss off random people and look like a dick. Also, to know when people are signalling their local equivalent of the finger.


No come on. Why can't other countries be like OURS, man?
Sheeittt....
 
2012-12-11 02:43:32 PM
Did he also give two thumbs up to the Greek ambassador?
 
2012-12-11 02:44:25 PM

tinyarena: [i2.wp.com image 408x258]

Non-story
Tejler crossed his legs, by mistake, oops
Then Ahmadinejad crossed his legs too

This is a way of covering an impolite gesture, by copying it.
It's a way of saying, "No big deal."

I'm not crazy about Iran, but Ahmadinejad did the diplomatically correct thing.

/is Benghazi a scandal yet?


Or is it more like

i2.wp.com

Sole exposed at me? Oh no u didn't! Sole right back at'cha, buddy! 

(guy in the middle "I'm gonna just keep my mouth shut and push my feet down as flat as I possibly can")
 
2012-12-11 02:44:49 PM
Hmmm, I seem to have wandered into the kindergarten room when everyone's missed their nap. (***quietly exits and closes door softly***)
 
2012-12-11 02:45:25 PM

ChipNASA: cryinoutloud: /I miss going barefoot all the time.
[img.poptower.com image 600x400]
/you sound like a hipster


I could walk across an asphalt parking lot barefooted before that farking word was even invented .
 
2012-12-11 02:47:49 PM
big farkin deal. lots of asian cultures have that practice. you wouldnt sit with your soles of your feet pointing at martial arts instructor either.


Diplomat should have known better, given his position, yet it is likely an innocent mistake.


I have a feeling we're being trolled by this article.

all we have is this article to say that buddywhatshisname was even angry to begin with.
 
2012-12-11 02:49:00 PM

Abuse Liability: Its called cultural relativism and this guy is drowning in it. No need to champion the cause of common sense when other cultures are allowed to hide behind superstition and tradition. All we are asking for is that their premier diplomat be more tolerant and less like a petty child.



Believe me, I know exactly what he subscribes to. I went to one of the most liberal Universities in the country - I reeeeally know the type.

Abuse Liability: All we are asking for is that their premier diplomat be more tolerant and less like a petty child.



...aaaaaand "the type" is so afraid of someone out there in the world calling them a bigot that they go to great lengths and practice spectacular mental gymnastics to avoid being seen as even remotely critical of someone else's culture.
 
2012-12-11 02:49:18 PM
OK Got It.

dittotranslation.com
 
2012-12-11 02:50:28 PM

whidbey: You're just way too insistent on what other countries should be like.


Patient with people from other cultures who aren't 100% familiar with every local superstition?

Truly, I'm history's greatest monster.
 
2012-12-11 02:50:46 PM

BigNumber12: ...aaaaaand "the type" is so afraid of someone out there in the world calling them a bigot that they go to great lengths and practice spectacular mental gymnastics to avoid being seen as even remotely critical of someone else's culture.


You two should go have coffee together and discuss the upcoming nationbuilding.
 
2012-12-11 02:51:58 PM

SixPaperJoint: LeroyBourne: JackieRabbit: So I guess unzipping and scratching my bass is out. Good to know.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x341]
[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x340]
just keep that fish in your pants sir!

Life is so beautiful. For some more than others.

Thank you for the reminder of that awesome show! I needed that today.
Link is for anyone else that needs a good one.


The Jim Jarmusch one is also comedy gold.
/both fisherman are covered in sores and boners
Link
 
2012-12-11 02:52:22 PM

Abuse Liability: Its called cultural relativism and this guy is drowning in it.


The whole point of cultural relativism was to examine past societies throughout history. Unfortunately, the politically correct crowd of morons decided we should also use it when examinining other cultures that currently exist in today's world. "You can't denounce another society's differences because you don't understand it." Like hell. Stoning women because they were raped is evil. Period. No wiggle room here.

My sister tried using cultural relativism on me once. I responded with, "then why are you active in stopping female circumcision in other countries? Why don't you respect their culture?" Shut her the hell up.
 
2012-12-11 02:52:24 PM

whidbey: You aren't even capable of seeing this incident from any other perspective


What perspective are you seeing it from where you can pretend there is no problem wiht the head of state taking a cultural gaffe and responding by doubling down with what he knows is an insult?

The way I see it is you either think their culture is superior and he is right in thinking that people who make mistakes must be right, you are excusing a culture where reoplying to a mistake with an insult is ok, or you are just flailing for any excuse you can fine to pretend that anything a non-western leader does is ok.
 
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