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(TampaBay.com (St. Petersburg Tim)   Unarmed father defends family from home invaders. "We got guns." "I got a newborn"   (tampabay.com) divider line 28
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2012-12-11 09:11:26 AM
5 votes:
"...an unfamiliar person at the foot of his bed, flashing gold teeth and white eyes that in the darkness seemed to float, as though unattached to a human face."

This is what happens when reporters try prose.
2012-12-11 08:47:54 AM
3 votes:

Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need one?


/pro-gun
//within reason


No, it's where we get to hear arguments about how everyone should have the unrestricted right to own AK-75M16Mark4SOMOD3s With Laser Sights and 25mm Grenade Cannons slung under them. For no reason. Just cause. Maybe Obama will take away their rights, or something.

/pro-gun, as well.
//The idea/argument that a bunch of weekend hunters who have 30-06s are going to stop the US Military in modern times is silly.
2012-12-11 12:03:30 PM
2 votes:
What annoys me is the news is written like a poor novel. "Reed and Soto were enjoying precious hours of slumber after an exhausting week filled with the duties of caring for a newborn. The family dog, a Chihuahua mix named Pepe, dozed alongside them."

"he first thing Reed recalls seeing was an unfamiliar person at the foot of his bed, flashing gold teeth and white eyes that in the darkness seemed to float, as though unattached to a human face."

Come on.. just report the news.

Oh wait.. Fark... alright.. I remember where I am now.
2012-12-11 11:57:35 AM
2 votes:
It sounds to me like he needlessly endangered himself by following armed men out and confronting them after the situation had defused.

That might be heroic under some circumstances, but not when your the father of a newborn.
2012-12-11 09:55:44 AM
2 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I fear babies more than I fear guns....


Guns make take your life, but babies will take --- YOUR FREEDOM!!
2012-12-11 09:49:21 AM
2 votes:
Soto said he had told her that he expected to one day be tested as a father. But not so soon after the birth of their first child.

"He did good," she said. "He protected the family."


Looks like steak and BJ day is gonna come early for this new dad
2012-12-11 09:44:51 AM
2 votes:
I fear babies more than I fear guns....
2012-12-11 08:48:06 AM
2 votes:
Reed, dazed and still in his underwear, toted the rifle around his yard as squad cars arrived. Pepe wandered outside and sniffed nervously at a fierce-looking police dog.

Good Lord, if he was black we'd be reading an entirely different story. Like: then, for reasons unknown, the homeowner ran out into the yard and pointed a high powered assault rifle at officers, who had no choice but to shoot him 141 times in the back.
2012-12-11 01:42:26 PM
1 votes:

jjorsett: BronyMedic: Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need one?

No, it's the thread where every left-winger with an agenda tries to equate responsible people who want firearms for whatever personal reasons with every kook and retard who ever wanted to hole up in a mountain redoubt and fight off The Man with mortar fire and RPGs. Like everyone who wants smaller government has to be tarred as an anarchist whose ideal is Somalia.


They're all out to get you because they hate your freedom!!!!1!!! *masturbatory gesture*
2012-12-11 01:29:47 PM
1 votes:

SixOfDLoC: BronyMedic:
//The idea/argument that a bunch of weekend hunters who have 30-06s are going to stop the US Military in modern times is silly.

Truth. And the idea that someone's cache of firearms, no matter how large, is going to protect them from the government is equally silly. If you want to preserve freedom, the key isn't arming the public so much as disarming the government. The 2nd amendment ceased to serve any real purpose the minute the police started carrying guns.


The gun isn't to fight the soldiers. The gun is to scare the politician into not sending the soldiers in the first place.
2012-12-11 01:23:38 PM
1 votes:

bikerific: Good that they are OK.

But, the dad didn't actually do anything. These guys came in looking to steal a car to escape. They grabbed the keys and took the car, and dad brandished a gun at them while they were leaving.


See, this is a situation where one of my own weird little automotive-security strategies could have really shone. I almost feel bad that it didn't happen at my house just to see what the reporters would've made of things.

See, my keys only operate my cars when you A. have the driver's-side seat-belt buckled, and B. hold down a hidden button while cranking it. My husband added a thing called an ignition interlock to accomplish this, and as modifications go, it's a very good choice for anyone with teenagers in their house or younger brothers whose loser friends don't always understand that there's a certain 'asking' component to the word 'borrow.' I also have a spare lock/unlock/panic key fob for each of them hanging behind the edge of the front-window curtain, because that's where all my spare car keys are kept.

So had this been my house, the criminals would have gotten into a car, tried to start it, had it completely fail and then been stuck inside as the doors repeatedly locked with the panic function of the car alarm making a tremendous racket to draw the cops. (There's a little override you can have dealerships or really good mechanics do that'll let the panic button of a remote work even if an ignition key is inside the vehicle, only costs about $30 on some cars and if you have it done at the same time as the interlock, it's free.) I did that to one of my little brother's loser friends and it was hilarious, but it could be life-saving in a situation with actual criminals, especially carjackers who might miss a baby seat in the back. Worst-case scenario, you might have to replace a window or have the seats cleaned after the initial realization that they are trapped in an unmovable, undriveable car in panic-mode kicks in.

I'm not sure why more people don't modify their cars this way -though it is almost prohibitively expensive to have it done at a dealership, and it can only be done on certain cars without having to rewire the ignition system.
2012-12-11 01:13:34 PM
1 votes:

BronyMedic:
//The idea/argument that a bunch of weekend hunters who have 30-06s are going to stop the US Military in modern times is silly.


Truth. And the idea that someone's cache of firearms, no matter how large, is going to protect them from the government is equally silly. If you want to preserve freedom, the key isn't arming the public so much as disarming the government. The 2nd amendment ceased to serve any real purpose the minute the police started carrying guns.
2012-12-11 01:09:20 PM
1 votes:

godxam: Magorn: the_rev: Good for the dad. He is very, very lucky that he didn't get killed. Violent criminals being actively prusued by police on the ground and in helicopters are desperate.

You'd be surpsied. For the average "criminal" the crime they are commiting is a business decision, and they know the cops barely have time to investigate pure property crimes, but that if somebody gets hurt, shot or god forbid, killed, then they are bringing down an ungodly amount of heat and attention on thier heads. Add to that, the fact that the average thug's gun is rented not owned, and his friendly local street dealer has a "if you fire it, you've bought it" (because the gun now has a ballistic record linked to a crime) policy. So because of all that, most "bad guys" will retreat if they possibly can if their original motive was to rob you rather than hurt you specifically

So what you're saying is I should worry if someone breaking into my house has a gun - cause shiat, he ain't gonna shoot or nothin.

/I suspect you just made that shiat up.


No, wait I'm saying is, Much like confronting a wild animal that may make its way into your house, you are much less likely to get bitten if you don't corner it. In both cases making a threat display and leaving it an avenue of escape tend to be the most effective way of safely ending the encounter. Go in with guns blazing and they'll shoot back out of self-preservation instinct. Loudly announce from the other room you HAVE a gun and are ready to shoot (whether you do not) will often result in a retreat
2012-12-11 12:34:47 PM
1 votes:

Smoky Dragon Dish: Lsherm: Whatever Francis

shiat. What's that from again? Teen Wolf?


Francis? If you're asking about that, your Fark cred is in serious jeopardy.
If this doesn't get the gears to mesh, I sentence you to a weekend of Beaches and Bridges of Madison County.
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2012-12-11 12:31:43 PM
1 votes:
REO-Weedwagon: Holy sh*t, that is bad writing.
2012-12-11 12:26:01 PM
1 votes:
43 times? With a history of violence? At what point do we throw away the key? I understand we pay $40K per year to incarcerate these ass clowns, but can't we agree we'd all be safer if these farks were in a cage? Let's see if 30 years chills them out.
2012-12-11 12:22:38 PM
1 votes:

santadog: What annoys me is the news is written like a poor novel. "Reed and Soto were enjoying precious hours of slumber after an exhausting week filled with the duties of caring for a newborn. The family dog, a Chihuahua mix named Pepe, dozed alongside them."

"he first thing Reed recalls seeing was an unfamiliar person at the foot of his bed, flashing gold teeth and white eyes that in the darkness seemed to float, as though unattached to a human face."

Come on.. just report the news.

Oh wait.. Fark... alright.. I remember where I am now.


You're pinning this on Fark? Nobody here wrote that drivel.
2012-12-11 12:16:50 PM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: //The idea/argument that a bunch of weekend hunters who have 30-06s are going to stop the US Military in modern times is silly.


Yeah, the US military sure loves a guerrilla insurgency. Those are always a combat cakewalk.
2012-12-11 12:14:27 PM
1 votes:
Good that they are OK.

But, the dad didn't actually do anything. These guys came in looking to steal a car to escape. They grabbed the keys and took the car, and dad brandished a gun at them while they were leaving.
2012-12-11 12:13:20 PM
1 votes:
Plz name the "judge" that last set these criminals loose.
2012-12-11 12:13:16 PM
1 votes:

Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need had one?


fixed that for everyone who RTA
2012-12-11 12:11:19 PM
1 votes:

Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need one?


/pro-gun
//within reason


No, this is the thread where I marvel that I've seen two stories in a week of gun owners who did not shoot intruders. First Texas, now Florida. What's the world coming to? Did all the trigger-happy gun nuts get raptured?

\note to knee-jerkers: I'm OK with 'gun owners', which are very different than 'gun nuts'
2012-12-11 12:10:03 PM
1 votes:
A bang - they would later learn their front door had been smashed off its lock - woke them. The first thing Reed recalls seeing was an unfamiliar person at the foot of his bed, flashing gold teeth and white eyes that in the darkness seemed to float, as though unattached to a human face.

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2012-12-11 12:08:19 PM
1 votes:
By then, one of them had grabbed the keys to Soto's Mazda 6. They barreled out the front door and into the car. Reed ran back to the bedroom and emerged with a .22 rifle belonging to Soto.

He stepped outside and pointed the gun at them, staring at them through the Mazda's windshield. They ducked. By then, Reed could see blue lights flashing. He didn't shoot.

The men drove off. Reed, dazed and still in his underwear, toted the rifle around his yard as squad cars arrived. Officers opened fire, wounding Reed. A department spokesman stated that, "[Reed] was coming right for them, and they were in fear for their lives." An internal review has cleared the officers of wrongdoing.
2012-12-11 11:57:09 AM
1 votes:
He's not unarmed if he's able to grab a gun two sentences later.
2012-12-11 09:02:38 AM
1 votes:
Good for the dad. He is very, very lucky that he didn't get killed. Violent criminals being actively prusued by police on the ground and in helicopters are desperate.
2012-12-11 08:43:48 AM
1 votes:
Hopefully Reed and Soto get married so the little girl can grow up in a stable home with a loving mother and father and not in a broken home where she'll eventually find her way into trouble and a violent life of gangs and crime.
2012-12-11 08:38:30 AM
1 votes:
Pepe wandered outside and sniffed nervously at a fierce-looking police dog. 
 
And didn't get shot.  Kudos.
 
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