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2012-12-11 12:35:21 PM
I always hear the "COPS" theme in my head after reading links like this.

/not a bad theme, actually

//"Bad boys, bad boys..."
 
2012-12-11 12:35:49 PM
Got no human grace, your eyes without a face.
Such a human waste, your eyes without a face.
 
2012-12-11 12:36:34 PM
The first thing Reed recalls seeing was an unfamiliar person at the foot of his bed, flashing gold teeth and white eyes that in the darkness seemed to float, as though unattached to a human face. 


s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-12-11 12:37:09 PM

BronyMedic: Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need one?


/pro-gun
//within reason

No, it's where we get to hear arguments about how everyone should have the unrestricted right to own AK-75M16Mark4SOMOD3s With Laser Sights and 25mm Grenade Cannons slung under them. For no reason. Just cause. Maybe Obama will take away their rights, or something.

/pro-gun, as well.
//The idea/argument that a bunch of weekend hunters who have 30-06s are going to stop the US Military in modern times is silly.


If you are talking about open, direct combat, a single trained soldier will be more effective than multiple untrained civilians armed with hunting rifles, and the rifles would be useless against tanks or aircraft. However, as a tool to resist occupation, which is the more likely scenario, an armed citizenry can make occupation very expensive.
 
2012-12-11 12:38:54 PM
The dude looked like Jesse James.
 
2012-12-11 12:45:43 PM

Magorn: the_rev: Good for the dad. He is very, very lucky that he didn't get killed. Violent criminals being actively prusued by police on the ground and in helicopters are desperate.

You'd be surpsied. For the average "criminal" the crime they are commiting is a business decision, and they know the cops barely have time to investigate pure property crimes, but that if somebody gets hurt, shot or god forbid, killed, then they are bringing down an ungodly amount of heat and attention on thier heads. Add to that, the fact that the average thug's gun is rented not owned, and his friendly local street dealer has a "if you fire it, you've bought it" (because the gun now has a ballistic record linked to a crime) policy. So because of all that, most "bad guys" will retreat if they possibly can if their original motive was to rob you rather than hurt you specifically


So what you're saying is I should worry if someone breaking into my house has a gun - cause shiat, he ain't gonna shoot or nothin.

/I suspect you just made that shiat up.
 
2012-12-11 12:49:42 PM
Hero tag in Florida? Unpossible.
 
2012-12-11 12:50:58 PM

Lsherm: Spoon over Marin: "...an unfamiliar person at the foot of his bed, flashing gold teeth and white eyes that in the darkness seemed to float, as though unattached to a human face."

This is what happens when reporters try prose.

This is probably the last article that truly impressed me with the level of writing, but you have to pay for it. It was Time's cover story on catching the Unabomber in 1996.


That's how you get around not being able to describe the suspect's race.
 
2012-12-11 12:52:02 PM

kronicfeld: "We got guns." "I got a newborn." "We have a Hulk."


24.media.tumblr.com

They have a Cave Troll.
 
2012-12-11 12:53:33 PM

EatHam: Pepe wandered outside and sniffed nervously at a fierce-looking police dog. 
 
And didn't get shot.  Kudos.


I guess Pepe obviously, even in Florida, wasn't a pit bull.
 
2012-12-11 12:58:01 PM
Gold teeth, you say?

That was unexpected.
 
2012-12-11 12:58:02 PM
Father uses newborn.
Newborn is super effective.
 
2012-12-11 12:58:47 PM

eeyore102: kronicfeld: "We got guns." "I got a newborn." "We have a Hulk."

[24.media.tumblr.com image 200x200]

They have a Cave Troll.


I don't remember a cave troll in Game of Thrones....
 
2012-12-11 01:00:44 PM

BronyMedic: Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need one?


/pro-gun
//within reason

No, it's where we get to hear arguments about how everyone should have the unrestricted right to own AK-75M16Mark4SOMOD3s With Laser Sights and 25mm Grenade Cannons slung under them. For no reason. Just cause. Maybe Obama will take away their rights, or something.

/pro-gun, as well.
//The idea/argument that a bunch of weekend hunters who have 30-06s are going to stop the US Military in modern times is silly.


Except that only a few people can actually legally own a selective fire weapon of any sort, same with grenade launchers, and the US government knows who they are and where they can be found at any given moment, so the point is moot.

I grow tired of people ranting aimlessly and emotionally over the issue. We can't keep white, powdery substances that the majority believe shouldn't be allowed into the country outside the borders on any sort of consistent basis despite billions spent for that purpose. Firearms? LOL There is no practical way (or even impractical) to keep firearms out of the country even if you banned them and that includes firearms with detachable magazines. We should instead be concentrating on educating people, encouraging people to resolve differences with something other than a 9 mm and spending far more on mental health issues. Attack the disease, not the so-called symptom.
 
2012-12-11 01:03:20 PM

jasimo: Real Women Drink Akvavit: jasimo: TexasPeace: Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need one?

No this is the thread where we argue whether or not summary capital punishment should apply in crimes where nobody was killed.

I'm fer it.

I'm not. Meet me in front of the Cali state capitol (sp?) right after xmas and we can have a real fight. Dueling with oranges stolen off their trees!

I would like so totally win that one.

/beans you in the head with a stolen bitter orange

Bad news. Stealing oranges is one of the crimes that warrants summary capital punishment.


That's too bad. I know now where we can find a bunch of squirrels who are eligible for the death penalty.

/they're also sandwich thieves, as I sadly discovered one day
 
2012-12-11 01:04:56 PM

Saruman_W: Gee, Attractive and Successful African Americans... I'm shocked! Never would have suspected. Utterly shocked I tell you!


Do you feel better about yourself now?
 
2012-12-11 01:06:34 PM
The last time I had to defend my home against an invader, it was with a C64 power supply. (It was closer to the bed than the gun.) Somewhere out there is an interesting mug shot of a guy with a backwards "C=" on his forehead.

Guns are for fending off attacks you see coming, leaving the around the house loaded and ready is just asking for accidents. They also provide a lot of false security. Owning a gun doesn't relieve you of the responsiblity to learn to defend yourself without one.

/pro gun ownership, pro gun safety
//Prefer my "brick on a rope"
 
2012-12-11 01:08:17 PM

BronyMedic: The idea/argument that a bunch of weekend hunters who have 30-06s are going to stop the US Military in modern times is silly.


Sure, it's stupid. That's why pretty much no insurgency ever does it that way, because it's a guaranteed fail.

I have been told over the last decade or so that tanks and jets aren't particularly useful against an insurgency. The same people turn around and say that because the US military has tanks and jets, which makes any potential insurgency futile. It must be that they aren't particularly useful against a *FOREIGN* insurgency, but somehow doubly effective against a domestic one.

To be serious, though, you don't take on the military forces head on. That's a recipe for a quick death. The principles of Guerrilla Warfare are centuries old, and they are still effective, even in this modern age. Perhaps even more so: We become dependent on technology, and so when an opponent is low-tech, we have a harder time dealing with them.

I'll leave you with one final thought: You don't have to be able to *WIN*, you just have to make it too expensive for the other side to try, or if they do, too expensive for them to persevere.
 
2012-12-11 01:09:20 PM

godxam: Magorn: the_rev: Good for the dad. He is very, very lucky that he didn't get killed. Violent criminals being actively prusued by police on the ground and in helicopters are desperate.

You'd be surpsied. For the average "criminal" the crime they are commiting is a business decision, and they know the cops barely have time to investigate pure property crimes, but that if somebody gets hurt, shot or god forbid, killed, then they are bringing down an ungodly amount of heat and attention on thier heads. Add to that, the fact that the average thug's gun is rented not owned, and his friendly local street dealer has a "if you fire it, you've bought it" (because the gun now has a ballistic record linked to a crime) policy. So because of all that, most "bad guys" will retreat if they possibly can if their original motive was to rob you rather than hurt you specifically

So what you're saying is I should worry if someone breaking into my house has a gun - cause shiat, he ain't gonna shoot or nothin.

/I suspect you just made that shiat up.


No, wait I'm saying is, Much like confronting a wild animal that may make its way into your house, you are much less likely to get bitten if you don't corner it. In both cases making a threat display and leaving it an avenue of escape tend to be the most effective way of safely ending the encounter. Go in with guns blazing and they'll shoot back out of self-preservation instinct. Loudly announce from the other room you HAVE a gun and are ready to shoot (whether you do not) will often result in a retreat
 
2012-12-11 01:10:14 PM

Magorn: quatchi: Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need one?

/pro-gun
//within reason

This guy's GF actually had a gun but it didn't prove useful as you say.

"We got guns," one of them said.

"I got a newborn," Reed responded.

By then, one of them had grabbed the keys to Soto's Mazda 6. They barreled out the front door and into the car. Reed ran back to the bedroom and emerged with a .22 rifle belonging to Soto.

That noted, it's shiat like this that keeps me firmly in the right-to-self-defense camp.

/Also pro gun.
//Also within reason.

A .22 rifle isn;t really so much a "gun" as it is "a glorified airsoft toy"


Um....

You DO realize that .22 is about the same diameter as a 5.56 nato round, right?

(Yeah, I know, a lot less powder and fmj vs lead.)

But the .22 is NOT a joke, NOT a toy, and can be very deadly. Shot placement is somewhat more important than with other rounds, but hinting that it's a toy may get someone killed.
 
2012-12-11 01:13:34 PM

BronyMedic:
//The idea/argument that a bunch of weekend hunters who have 30-06s are going to stop the US Military in modern times is silly.


Truth. And the idea that someone's cache of firearms, no matter how large, is going to protect them from the government is equally silly. If you want to preserve freedom, the key isn't arming the public so much as disarming the government. The 2nd amendment ceased to serve any real purpose the minute the police started carrying guns.
 
2012-12-11 01:17:24 PM

violentsalvation: BronyMedic: //The idea/argument that a bunch of weekend hunters who have 30-06s are going to stop the US Military in modern times is silly.

Yeah, the US military sure loves a guerrilla insurgency. Those are always a combat cakewalk.


Indeed; Darrel and his other brother Darrel can blend in with the rest of the population. Just like those gotdamn Al Queda. Also, those damn commie libs can't stand a single casualty on either side.

/ you know it's true

// I keed, I keed
 
2012-12-11 01:18:37 PM

DarkVader:
You DO realize that .22 is about the same diameter as a 5.56 nato round, right?
(Yeah, I know, a lot less powder and fmj vs lead.)
But the .22 is NOT a joke, NOT a toy, and can be very deadly. Shot placement is somewhat more important than with other rounds, but hinting that it's a toy may get someone killed.


With a .22, the round can lose enough velocity on entering the body cavity to "bounce" around in there. This means lingering around for a few weeks while you slowly die from sepsis because the surgeon didn't find all of the 3 dozen perfs in your guts - though I doubt the average home invader has considered this. Also, it tends to be a very accurate round, so the possibility of a head shot is way higher than with a larger round, IMHO.
 
2012-12-11 01:19:23 PM

Crewmannumber6: flashing gold teeth and white eyes that in the darkness seemed to float, as though unattached to a human face.

If that doesn't become a meme, then this is not the fark I used to know.


like this?
0.tqn.com
 
2012-12-11 01:19:41 PM
That dude had better get a bunch of blow-jobs for that. Seriously, that ended in the best way possible and he will think back to that day with nothing but feelings of pride. Had he shot one of those assholes, it would have probably would have left some trauma, even if the criminals deserved it. I think that baby is in good hands.
 
2012-12-11 01:22:15 PM

Crewmannumber6: flashing gold teeth and white eyes that in the darkness seemed to float, as though unattached to a human face.

If that doesn't become a meme, then this is not the fark I used to know.


Sounds like the home invader was Randolf Flagg or something. Or that cat from Alice in Wonderland.
 
2012-12-11 01:23:29 PM

santadog: What annoys me is the news is written like a poor novel. "Reed and Soto were enjoying precious hours of slumber after an exhausting week filled with the duties of caring for a newborn. The family dog, a Chihuahua mix named Pepe, dozed alongside them."

"he first thing Reed recalls seeing was an unfamiliar person at the foot of his bed, flashing gold teeth and white eyes that in the darkness seemed to float, as though unattached to a human face."

Come on.. just report the news.

Oh wait.. Fark... alright.. I remember where I am now.


One of the things I enjoy about the Tampa Bay Times (formerly St. Petersburg Times) is they sometimes print news stories in a more creatively written style rather than going with the standard AP Style Book approach.

If you want drab, trite, standardly written news stories, read the Tampa Tribune instead.

Or do it yourself, if you can do newspaper and creative writing styles.
 
2012-12-11 01:23:38 PM

bikerific: Good that they are OK.

But, the dad didn't actually do anything. These guys came in looking to steal a car to escape. They grabbed the keys and took the car, and dad brandished a gun at them while they were leaving.


See, this is a situation where one of my own weird little automotive-security strategies could have really shone. I almost feel bad that it didn't happen at my house just to see what the reporters would've made of things.

See, my keys only operate my cars when you A. have the driver's-side seat-belt buckled, and B. hold down a hidden button while cranking it. My husband added a thing called an ignition interlock to accomplish this, and as modifications go, it's a very good choice for anyone with teenagers in their house or younger brothers whose loser friends don't always understand that there's a certain 'asking' component to the word 'borrow.' I also have a spare lock/unlock/panic key fob for each of them hanging behind the edge of the front-window curtain, because that's where all my spare car keys are kept.

So had this been my house, the criminals would have gotten into a car, tried to start it, had it completely fail and then been stuck inside as the doors repeatedly locked with the panic function of the car alarm making a tremendous racket to draw the cops. (There's a little override you can have dealerships or really good mechanics do that'll let the panic button of a remote work even if an ignition key is inside the vehicle, only costs about $30 on some cars and if you have it done at the same time as the interlock, it's free.) I did that to one of my little brother's loser friends and it was hilarious, but it could be life-saving in a situation with actual criminals, especially carjackers who might miss a baby seat in the back. Worst-case scenario, you might have to replace a window or have the seats cleaned after the initial realization that they are trapped in an unmovable, undriveable car in panic-mode kicks in.

I'm not sure why more people don't modify their cars this way -though it is almost prohibitively expensive to have it done at a dealership, and it can only be done on certain cars without having to rewire the ignition system.
 
2012-12-11 01:23:58 PM

Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need one?


/pro-gun
//within reason


Funny. The article I read said he took a .22 rifle outside and pointed it at the assholes.

What bothers me is that these two career criminals were still on the street.

At some point, maybe at 20 arrests, it's just time to give up on assholes like this. They clearly aren't ever going to get their shiat together.
 
2012-12-11 01:24:02 PM

SixOfDLoC: BronyMedic:
//The idea/argument that a bunch of weekend hunters who have 30-06s are going to stop the US Military in modern times is silly.

Truth. And the idea that someone's cache of firearms, no matter how large, is going to protect them from the government is equally silly. If you want to preserve freedom, the key isn't arming the public so much as disarming the government. The 2nd amendment ceased to serve any real purpose the minute the police started carrying guns.



Yet here we still are in Afghanistan getting our asses kicked by a bunch of goat herders with AKs and homemade bombs.
 
2012-12-11 01:24:17 PM

DarkVader: Magorn: quatchi: Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need one?

/pro-gun
//within reason

This guy's GF actually had a gun but it didn't prove useful as you say.

"We got guns," one of them said.

"I got a newborn," Reed responded.

By then, one of them had grabbed the keys to Soto's Mazda 6. They barreled out the front door and into the car. Reed ran back to the bedroom and emerged with a .22 rifle belonging to Soto.

That noted, it's shiat like this that keeps me firmly in the right-to-self-defense camp.

/Also pro gun.
//Also within reason.

A .22 rifle isn;t really so much a "gun" as it is "a glorified airsoft toy"

Um....

You DO realize that .22 is about the same diameter as a 5.56 nato round, right?

(Yeah, I know, a lot less powder and fmj vs lead.)

But the .22 is NOT a joke, NOT a toy, and can be very deadly. Shot placement is somewhat more important than with other rounds, but hinting that it's a toy may get someone killed.


Yep. Some dude in my middle school way back in the day shot another guy in the leg. He lived, but he had to have surgery on his leg, and there was a tremendous hubbub at school. I remember teachers talking to us about guns not being toys and all that.

A .22 can absolutely kill if it hits something vital, and its relative lack of force can cause it to bounce and mess up a lot of tissue.

/it won't do something crazy, like come out the neck when hit in the leg
//but it will hit a bone and bounce at an angle, shredding any muscle in its way
 
2012-12-11 01:24:59 PM
How is babby formed?
 
2012-12-11 01:25:54 PM

andyofne: Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need one?


/pro-gun
//within reason

Funny. The article I read said he took a .22 rifle outside and pointed it at the assholes.

What bothers me is that these two career criminals were still on the street.

At some point, maybe at 20 arrests, it's just time to give up on assholes like this. They clearly aren't ever going to get their shiat together.


He picked up one of their guns, but never used it, and they were already fleeing. It's pretty safe to say that the gun being in his hands did little to change the situation.
 
2012-12-11 01:26:29 PM

SixOfDLoC: BronyMedic:
//The idea/argument that a bunch of weekend hunters who have 30-06s are going to stop the US Military in modern times is silly.

Truth. And the idea that someone's cache of firearms, no matter how large, is going to protect them from the government is equally silly. If you want to preserve freedom, the key isn't arming the public so much as disarming the government. The 2nd amendment ceased to serve any real purpose the minute the police started carrying guns.


On an individual level, this is true.

Collectively, it is not.

The NRA alone has more members than all the police officers in the United States. In fact, the NRA has something like 5 times as many (NRA has about 4 million members, there are about 800,000 federal, state, and local law enforcement officers in the US).

Of course, there is a lot of overlap: Many LEOs are also NRA members, but then again, not every gun person is a member of the NRA: I'm not, for example.
 
2012-12-11 01:27:06 PM

Psycoholic_Slag:
Yet here we still are in Afghanistan getting our asses kicked by a bunch of goat herders with AKs and homemade bombs.


Scale and context. I never said your cache of weapons wouldn't be inconvenient for an INVADING force, especially one that was forced to maintain the pretense of being there to help.
 
2012-12-11 01:27:18 PM
So the lesson learned is, bring a newborn to a gun fight?
 
2012-12-11 01:27:37 PM
Or, santadog, just stick with the Trail-Gazette. ;-)
 
2012-12-11 01:29:07 PM
Ask James Brady how much damage a .22 can do. You may not understand his response.
 
2012-12-11 01:29:47 PM

SixOfDLoC: BronyMedic:
//The idea/argument that a bunch of weekend hunters who have 30-06s are going to stop the US Military in modern times is silly.

Truth. And the idea that someone's cache of firearms, no matter how large, is going to protect them from the government is equally silly. If you want to preserve freedom, the key isn't arming the public so much as disarming the government. The 2nd amendment ceased to serve any real purpose the minute the police started carrying guns.


The gun isn't to fight the soldiers. The gun is to scare the politician into not sending the soldiers in the first place.
 
2012-12-11 01:38:25 PM

BronyMedic: Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need one?


/pro-gun
//within reason

No, it's where we get to hear arguments about how everyone should have the unrestricted right to own AK-75M16Mark4SOMOD3s With Laser Sights and 25mm Grenade Cannons slung under them. For no reason. Just cause. Maybe Obama will take away their rights, or something.


No, it's the thread where every left-winger with an agenda tries to equate responsible people who want firearms for whatever personal reasons with every kook and retard who ever wanted to hole up in a mountain redoubt and fight off The Man with mortar fire and RPGs. Like everyone who wants smaller government has to be tarred as an anarchist whose ideal is Somalia.
 
2012-12-11 01:41:16 PM

RembrandtQEinstein:
The gun isn't to fight the soldiers. The gun is to scare the politician into not sending the soldiers in the first place.

Or, more likely, they just ignore you until you leave your house and do something they can arrest or shoot you for. Your guns don't scare people who have tanks/bombs/planes/thousands of troops at their disposal.
 
2012-12-11 01:42:26 PM

jjorsett: BronyMedic: Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need one?

No, it's the thread where every left-winger with an agenda tries to equate responsible people who want firearms for whatever personal reasons with every kook and retard who ever wanted to hole up in a mountain redoubt and fight off The Man with mortar fire and RPGs. Like everyone who wants smaller government has to be tarred as an anarchist whose ideal is Somalia.


They're all out to get you because they hate your freedom!!!!1!!! *masturbatory gesture*
 
2012-12-11 01:43:21 PM

SpiderQueenDemon: See, this is a situation where one of my own weird little automotive-security strategies could have really shone. I almost feel bad that it didn't happen at my house just to see what the reporters would've made of things.

See, my keys only operate my cars when you A. have the driver's-side seat-belt buckled, and B. hold down a hidden button while cranking it. My husband added a thing called an ignition interlock to accomplish this, and as modifications go, it's a very good choice for anyone with teenagers in their house or younger brothers whose loser friends don't always understand that there's a certain 'asking' component to the word 'borrow.' I also have a spare lock/unlock/panic key fob for each of them hanging behind the edge of the front-window curtain, because that's where all my spare car keys are kept.

So had this been my house, the criminals would have gotten into a car, tried to start it, had it completely fail and then been stuck inside as the doors repeatedly locked with the panic function of the car alarm making a tremendous racket to draw the cops busted the windows and run away long before the cops could get there.

 
2012-12-11 01:43:28 PM

SixOfDLoC: Psycoholic_Slag:
Yet here we still are in Afghanistan getting our asses kicked by a bunch of goat herders with AKs and homemade bombs.

Scale and context. I never said your cache of weapons wouldn't be inconvenient for an INVADING force, especially one that was forced to maintain the pretense of being there to help.



You posted:

"And the idea that someone's cache of firearms, no matter how large, is going to protect them from the government is equally silly. "

Your response seems to be in conflict with your original post.
 
2012-12-11 01:44:27 PM

Coolfusis: He picked up one of their guns,


No. Wrong.
 
2012-12-11 01:44:59 PM

andyofne: What bothers me is that these two career criminals were still on the street.


The fact that these kinds of people are still out there is what drives many to own guns.
We've got career criminals who laugh at all of the restrictions we put on ourselves and a legal system that just doesn't know how to deal with a guy that's pranced past it over a dozen times.
From the crooks perspective, its like they've got the keys to the city. Laws simply fail to touch them.

/The fact that someone resisted must have been one hell of a paradigm shifting experience.
 
2012-12-11 01:46:45 PM
They would have been found dead at the foot of my bed.

Glad the family wasn't hurt but I would have emptied my 9mm into them no questions asked.
 
2012-12-11 01:47:22 PM

manimal2878: Coolfusis: He picked up one of their guns,

No. Wrong.


Oh, whoops. Thought "Soto" was a suspect.

Regardless, it still didn't change the situation. They were already out of the house, in the car and driving down the street before they ever even saw that he had a gun.
 
2012-12-11 01:47:39 PM

dittybopper: SixOfDLoC: BronyMedic:
//The idea/argument that a bunch of weekend hunters who have 30-06s are going to stop the US Military in modern times is silly.

Truth. And the idea that someone's cache of firearms, no matter how large, is going to protect them from the government is equally silly. If you want to preserve freedom, the key isn't arming the public so much as disarming the government. The 2nd amendment ceased to serve any real purpose the minute the police started carrying guns.

On an individual level, this is true.

Collectively, it is not.

The NRA alone has more members than all the police officers in the United States. In fact, the NRA has something like 5 times as many (NRA has about 4 million members, there are about 800,000 federal, state, and local law enforcement officers in the US).

Of course, there is a lot of overlap: Many LEOs are also NRA members, but then again, not every gun person is a member of the NRA: I'm not, for example.


Yet, you defend them every chance you get. I am an NRA member, and now I realize why you don't know what you are talking about in regards to their partisan hackery, You don't get the monthly installments of American Rifleman chock full of derp.
 
2012-12-11 01:49:34 PM

DarkVader: Magorn: quatchi: Coolfusis: Is this that thread where we're supposed to argue whether or not people should have guns when this guy didn't need one?

/pro-gun
//within reason

This guy's GF actually had a gun but it didn't prove useful as you say.

"We got guns," one of them said.

"I got a newborn," Reed responded.

By then, one of them had grabbed the keys to Soto's Mazda 6. They barreled out the front door and into the car. Reed ran back to the bedroom and emerged with a .22 rifle belonging to Soto.

That noted, it's shiat like this that keeps me firmly in the right-to-self-defense camp.

/Also pro gun.
//Also within reason.

A .22 rifle isn;t really so much a "gun" as it is "a glorified airsoft toy"

Um....

You DO realize that .22 is about the same diameter as a 5.56 nato round, right?

(Yeah, I know, a lot less powder and fmj vs lead.)

But the .22 is NOT a joke, NOT a toy, and can be very deadly. Shot placement is somewhat more important than with other rounds, but hinting that it's a toy may get someone killed.


This. Anytime someone claims a .22 isn't a real gun, I ask if I can shoot them in the chest with one.

They always decline...
 
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